really. the netherlands prepares to receive more bodies from the mh seventeen disaster as experts at the crash site continue the hiring search for the rest of the victims. of the downing of the malaysia jet sees a relentless campaign against russia as the media follows the u.s. state department's lead while ignoring key questions being raised by moscow. there's still no sign of a british journalist who's been reporting for r.t. missing now for nearly two days since disappearing in east ukraine it's thought he could be being held captive by security. and. israel's ground operation in gaza by time helicopter gunships and warplanes more

than seven hundred palestinians have died in the onslaught as diplomats struggle to draw up a truce. will come along to see international. two more planes carrying victims of the malaysian air waves flight m.h. seventeen are on their way to the netherlands the first unidentified bodies arrived at eindhoven air base on wednesday where a solemn ceremony was held in amsterdam hundreds of people dressed in white marched through the city and released white balloons in memory of those who died in the tragedy has more. the process of bringing those killed on board malaysian airlines flight seventeen here to the netherlands is underway the first two transport planes arrived here in. bringing the first forty coffins containing

the remains of the who died they were greeted by a solemn ceremony alone bugler setting up a minute's silence that was impeccably observed around one thousand relatives who are believed to have been in the. at the time watching the ceremony along with the dutch royal family and the prime minister of the netherlands the bodies were then removed from the airplanes by a military on the guard made up of all of the armed services of the netherlands and put into funeral cars they've now been taken to a military base near to the to the town of hope a zone where they identification process will take place here at the airport itself whether those bodies will continue to arrive floral tributes are. becoming another center of remember ins here in the netherlands to all of those who lost their lives . while at the crash site in eastern ukraine experts are combing the area for more bodies as not all of them have yet been found his their body fragments along with

the debris all flights and each seventeen are scattered around fifteen to twenty kilometer area here in a rural parts off eastern ukraine farms and villages all around us so it is going to probably take quite a long time to collect all the evidence and the remaining fragments of the victims of flights and seventeen you know while they always see mission monitoring mission along with malaysian experts are continuing their work here on the ground earlier they expect express the gratitude for the level of access that they have received to this site some investigators mentioned rumors. area and they have addressed this issue i know their faith in reports of looting and so on it's impossible for us to verify that. the malaysians and again as their

second aide said they did you could see still a second circuit remember under valuables lying around that haven't been taken flight recorders or a common known as black boxes had been recovered from this area they are now in possession of british aviation authorities who are hoping to shed some light as to what actually happened to flight m h seventeen they said the flight recorders had been damaged but they're still intact and they have not been tampered with the malaysian prime minister earlier said that he's not about to put blame on anybody at all as to why this crash it's a complete until the concrete evidence is in place. well it's now discuss the crash of the malaysian airlines plane with aviation expert julian bright who joins us now jeanne and thanks very much for joining us here on r.t. international now those working on the mh seventeen flight recorders say they haven't been tampered with they arrived in the u.k. around twenty four hours ago can we soon expect information to start

a merging. well i understand that they've been taken to a farm bureau which is the place where there's what's one of two centers where these can be coded and apparently all the coal data has already been downloaded from what you call the black boxes the flight data recorders these are two instruments one on either end of the aircraft one in the flight deck and one just to the rear. service door and they recover the and as you say they haven't been damaged superficial the outside they've been knocked about a bit but the point is they are actually designed to withstand this kind of trauma so what sort of information will they contain that could help with the investigation to discover what happened. in all the around about ninety nine zero senses throughout the aircraft so it should be able to put together along with the timeline and also the conversation on board the flight deck exactly what happened

inside the aircraft we might actually get what we call latency information which is off to the impact all the incident happened so we'll get a reaction there for example if everything was going normally there would be a normal conversation on the flight deck between the pilots might be a little bit of radio traffic and back in the aircraft of course all the senses be looking at the engines the electronics navigational aids all the systems and then they can piece put together a picture of exactly what was happening immediately before the impact now there were reports of a second plane detecting close to the boeing prior to the crash now could data from the recorders confirm this. i don't have knowledge of this. these it's there are ninety senses so if the pilot was in conversation with another

aircraft think clearly that will actually come up on the flight data recorder because the conversations will actually be recorded so if he's engaged in a frenzied chit chat with another pilot or. or any other source then that should come out within the next few days and if there was a second plane how could that have created problems for flight m h seventeen well again we're assuming that it was a flight controller for the flight commanders so they're trying to control commanders so it should be a problem at all it be a fair degree of separation between the two aircraft and i'm assuming it could for example be a cargo aircraft but again if you actually have a look at. college i as a city seems to be knocking on doors of. these things do happen and so what actually happens. i'll pick up my thread again what actually happens is that there

will be a third degree of separation between the two aircraft and what will happen is in fact they will get instructions not to go near each other and they will be see each other on the radar they'll both be scorching numbers and as a result the numbers without sheet appear on civilian radar screens you're an aviation security expert are you surprised that there was not a no fly zone over ukraine at the time. i had said all along why is anybody flying into or over a war zone i understand that there was a save high decree which is about thirty thousand that is soon that the people on the ground that she had what they call manpads which chilled amounted surface to air missiles which had a ceiling of about twelve to fifteen thousand feet so all see was flying at a safe height for that particular. moment you might say but anything larger than of

course it was in a danger zone and know the for a minute expect that a very large missile would be deployed and again we are still waiting for information to find out exactly what happened. thank you very much for your time aviation security expert jim brady on r.t. international now the u.s. media is also whipping up and russia hysteria has gone a teacher can explain sits unleashing a tirade of accusations against moscow with next to no supporting evidence. it took most pundits military experts and kurds in the u.s. mainstream media less than a day to pronounce russia and specifically the russian president guilty of the downing of the mh seventeen this tuesday u.s. intelligence official said they had no evidence that would directly link russia to the tragedy they also said they did not know who exactly pulled the trigger but

inertia in the media is a powerful thing and such a lack of evidence does not set back some of the journalists who seem to be absolutely sure about who's to blame maybe you haven't been following it but the u.s. is actually coming out with a lot of its own intelligence that connects what happened i'm age seventy to the acts of russian militants and perhaps of the involvement of russia in either training equipping or maybe even assisting what. exactly are you talking about what what forensic evidence are you referring to. very or release intelligence information about the trajectory no not twitter i do not think peter this is something to be flip about two hundred ninety eight people lost their lives let's not i think. there's been there really is an intelligence coming out very flippant about much of the u.s. media brushoff whatever information comes from the russian government propaganda for instance when presented evidence that ukraine had the capability to shoot down

the plane without directly accusing kiev of doing it many journalists have shown clearly that they were not willing to treat all sources equally that is not to say that all journalists do that so really it's the propaganda machine spinning on both sides in. certainly hasn't seen from the russian angle is russia's evidence credible. well how credible is the u.s. evidence after a u.s. official said there is no proof of the russian president's involvement in the plane crash the u.s. media is looking for another face to put on that tragedy the leader of the playing russian rebels the suspect in this crime seems defensive even amused by it all rolling his eyes that the question of accountability one of the bodies to get that suit. it's a fantastic story you have to the thing is that as soon as the members of our c.e.

arrived they notified us that if we start moving the bodies then we will be responsible have new source information tonight from u.s. government sources about this strange shadowy character who leads pro russian rebels the jean jacket black t. shirt the rule of the eyes he comes across like a sixteen year old being lectured by a parent while the real investigation is only beginning in eastern ukraine the media are hungry for quick with salt quick accusations and a quick verdict in washington i'm going to check on r.t. . now r.t. dot com has collected the various theories about why the malaysian airlines flight crashed head to our website for detailed analysis pictures and videos. there's still no sign of british journalist graham phillips who's been reporting for r.t. and disappeared in eastern ukraine on tuesday evening he last contacted us on his way to don't yet airports and hasn't been heard of since u.k.

or thora to say graham is alive but there are reports claiming he could be held captive by ukrainian military medina cochon over reports graham phillips was among as among four people reportedly missing while they weren't covering firefights and the area very close to the city of dining at school now we do know that he was. as with a group of freelance journalists working very close to the newest airport which is currently one of the most active war zones and that regional center now one of the drone allies who wanted to stay anonymous says that he was a was a ground very shortly before he was reported missing. we went to the airport together some people under in a few meters away we turned back because we emerged from the fields into an area of open street like a field and could be an easy target so we decided to go back to where we left our car and want to ram it could be dangerous. the reporters still decided to see. if

you will several times i think. when we went back in our car. but another guy answered. it was that other reporter that just don't i don't why are you asking where ground was and he said he was surrounded by the ukrainian army and they've got ground to get him out of there at the same time ukraine's defense ministry. they do not take journalists hostage just you know he's been taken hostage there's no information as we're both there's a bounty on his head the ukrainian military don't journalists well the russian foreign ministry has demands as the media treats of the journalist and the british foreign office also says that it is aware of the situation and is standing ready to provide assistance meanwhile the last time that i just got in touch with moscow was on the evening of the twenty second of july and at the moment our team is doing everything possible to learn about his present and whereabouts. but we spoke to

a friend of graham journalist brian mcdonald says he's relieved his friend is not among the dead but he's concerned that neither of the conflicting sides in ukraine is playing by the rules. he has a life and that's fantastic news and everyone's very very relieved of course western journalists i won't give her nationality to protect her identity said to me earlier that nobody is in control nobody is following orders in the area on either side and that's why the situation is so effing dangerous that she said in her exact words that concerns me that we've been honest because the question for. the new president of ukraine and the national guard is ukraine is a country that spires to join the european union it's going around kidnapping foreign nationals for no reason why. after the short break with more than seven hundred palestinians now dead in gaza we talked to an israeli diplomat about the intensity of the ground on their operation and what it might be about.

this is a media lead us so we leave the. motions to your. your party years ago. use that no one is as again with the guests that you deserve answers from. politicking only on our team. just three years ago the european union are spending several hundred six billion a few also on the public procurement underestimation in each. deal twenty thirty sometimes even fifty percent of the money spent on corruption.

not the palestinian death toll has topped seven hundred as israel pushes on with its ground operation casualties are also mounting on the israeli side with the thirty soldiers killed since the start of the offensive these are some of the latest pictures from gaza.

where the u.n. has warned that israel's actions in gaza could amount to war crimes and is how we feel it reports for r.t. even the dead can rest in peace. this is gaza's main morgue several hundred dead have passed through here in the past fortnight we met its director. certainly working here is very difficult first when the corpse arrives we put the dead bodies inside the fridges after fifteen or thirty minutes the families normally arrive to take martyrs bodies morgues are operating at capacity throughout the strip in some two bodies are being put in frames is built just for one it's a grim process. every night around twenty to twenty five bodies come in i think even though this facility only has to pass thirty four eighteen it's really too much pressure for us we see many cuts and lacerations among these victims it has

been incredibly hard this job needs people with a personal conscience with a strong heart. bodies are taken from the morgues and swiftly buried according to islamic tradition but many local cemeteries are under threat of bombardment and i simply too dangerous to use so it's here at gaza's main cemetery where many of forced to bury their dead. this man has buried ten of his relatives since the israeli operation began. we feel that they were about to attack the cemetery is a cemetery and shake red one had been attacked twice so people going were very afraid of standing in congregation the cemetery and shadia is off limits as the israeli army has been in that area and everyone avoids going there then we went to shake red one but while we were there the air force attacked the cemetery during the ceasefire we dug the grave and laid the first martyr to rest there and as the bloodshed goes on gaza cemeteries are running out of space i have worked for seven

years of shaikh road one cemetery the previous two weeks have been the worst in some cases we've had to dig up old graves to make room for relatives where do i start the morgues bring way too many bodies here we put three bodies in. grave because we don't want the relatives to go to dangerous places which are off limits this grieving family has no choice but to open up a relative's grave and bury the new body alongside you may have thought police guards a cemetery as would be spared the din of war but even as palestinians bury their loved ones there is no rest by from the sound of menacing drones overhead or ceaseless bombings around harry fear r.t. . or the gaza offensive will now be investigated by the united nations human rights commission palestine's ambassador to the un told us why it's vital that every alleged violation be fair really looked into. those who committed those crimes must be punished it's only fair to the victims that's why investigating those

crimes and finding those responsible is very important we will closely follow the inquiry conducted by the un commission its recommendations should be heard by the international community and all human rights organizations. should be brought to the international criminal court palestine would do everything possible that so that every single case. where for more on this let's now talk to paul hirsh on from israel's of foreign affairs ministry mr hersh and thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. international let's start the u.n. to me with wednesday that israel may have committed war crimes how do you respond. i think that navi pillay and the human rights commission should tread carefully here they risk embarrassing themselves more than they did last time when following the goldstone report judge goldstone who headed up that investigation eventually had to apologize and. say that the entire investigation was

a fast but you know it was fascinating to hear the words of the palestinian ambassador and i heard yesterday in another interview similar words coming from a member of the palestinian authority it's interesting they don't mention the word israel and they say that all timothy's should be investigated and i agree and i'll tell you what we're going to discover we're going to discover that israel has taken unprecedented steps in a very difficult circumstance to minimize and to avoid civilian casualties and we're going to discover that hamas evil machine with a killer strategy. and is perpetrating war crime of the war crime of the war crime and that's what we're going to discover you say that israel is doing all it can to minimize civilian casualties are you doing enough for boys killed on a beach we're hearing about civilians being killed every single day.

i agree with you this is the great tragedy of what's going on let's remember we didn't want to be in this conflict in the first place for three weeks from the twelfth of june till the seventh of july jury in which hamas significantly raise the the number of rockets and missiles being fired into israel we said loudly we said repetitively we said it also quietly through diplomatic channels quiet will be answered with quiet calm will be responded to with call this message was rejected out of hand they've been three cease fire proposals one by the egyptians one by the united nations one by the international committee for the red cross all three we accepted unconditionally we implemented them all three of which with the with the glib laws they couldn't care less attitude come us rejected and violated so i agree with you the this is a real tragedy the responsibility for which lies directly at the doorstep of hamas . you say that hamas is using civilians as human shields but is

that not a convenient thing to say does that not just lift responsibility away from the idea if you can you can wash your hands if you say that it's all the masses fault. we are not washing our hands of anything look there are three things over here the one i've spoken to already which is which is that these really military is doing everything it possibly can taking unprecedented steps in any comparable or incomparable military scenario what are the limits to go to avoid civilian casualties the second thing is. well like many militaries were certainly leafleting were dropping leaflets in the areas explaining what's going on and telling people where we are and when we're going to strike and telling them where they should go to in order to take refuge and be safe in addition there is this phone calls hundreds of thousands of phone calls takes messages that are going to people there are. early warning explosive non-explosive bombs crowd has to

wait on this area where we're going to go that this is not. there are very specific messages which are being passed to people saying this particular building or this particular neighborhood is is going to be targeted and suggesting to them other neighborhoods which at the same time will will not be targeted look. the issue is that this is not a pure science and that's precisely the reason why we did not want to be in this conflict in the first place but if you go on to the ministry of interior website it's up there right now you have to be able to speak arabic you'll see it clearly that hamas is saying to their own public do not pay attention to the warnings of the israeli military they're actually publicly proudly unashamedly committing a war crime telling people any many cases actually preventing people from paying attention to the warnings that are there but again it's not a pure science and that's precisely the reason why we did not want to be in this

conflict in the first place but we're left with no choice this is. a monster which is a mood literally from from under the ground. hundreds of tunnels for five meters underground some of which two kilometers long tens of which traverse the international front the government of israel has an obligation and will pursue that obligation to bring a sense of calm and quiet back to the public and the primary obstacle to to this is the behavior of mr sharon thank you very much for your time and thank you for joining us here on r.t. international is appreciated. now news just in a ukrainian correspondent who was where the british journalist graham phillips at the time of his disappearance has been released contacted the on a news channel and told them that graham is still being held by the security service and we'll have more from him in the next how our hay on international.

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