i love to do plus god gave me armor to take their hard in they they did protect my does it affect your hearing like jefferson selected. all next on larry king now. love them to larry king our special guests will then be their tour at their business plan and one of em of a zone original superstars a six time world champion and you have seen hall of famer august tenth you can see him and frank sam are out hosting spike t.v.'s jim rescue where he also serves by the way as executive producer add these reprising his role as toll road alongside sylvester stallone jason statham and almost schwarzenegger in the expendables three opening august fifteenth how do you explain the success of this now franchise i

think. obviously the ensemble cast has become something that you're seeing a lot more and sly was i think from the first guys to do it with expendables one amazing group of guys and kind of that we got he imagined all these guys were in the same movie it was kind of that moment it was lies thing right i think so yeah he's very creative absolutely absolutely do you like acting i enjoy it. i get the opportunity twelve years ago to be on set for the first time grimm to the grave they were looking for fighters to create an authentic fight scene in a movie and i had one line in the movie but as a first time kind of scene behind the curtain how it's done that the process and immediately became intrigued with it had been going to movies since i was a little kid my mom used to take me to lynn twin theater for the double feature on saturdays and would you go up a limb with washington and up the nose seattle and. so i just always loved movies

but never really understood the process and i think what you kind of see behind the curtain and how they're made it jay changes he changes how you see him do you always have that sense beyond fighting of other things business acting i think is a fighter you're pretty egocentric you're you're focused on what you're doing everything revolves around your performance and preparing and going out there for them twenty thousand plus people and put it on the line so i never really took me awhile to kind of realize that i had a brand that there were a lot of other opportunities and to recognize that i had a short window of opportunity to fight make the kind of money that i was making when sly was on the letterman show promoting the film he said you were the toughest guy in the cast did that surprise you or do you figure you would be since of your career why i think you know outside of dog food he's done some some contacts sparring i was really only combative sports athletes involved in the cast at that

time so you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of oh we're going to fight i probably had a pretty good shot what about working with sly. and intensity and especially in the first film because he was wearing so many hats i mean he wrote he was directing he was in front of the camera doing all the rewrites i think we had three units going at some times during that that production so amazingly intense i don't know how he survived it. and now on the third one with a much more relaxed slide thinking let patrick use the new director really kind of take take it over and do what he needed to do and had a lot of confidence in patrick and so i got to spend more kind of casual time the slide for the third one i know want you know is that funny voices and he is so much brighter than people think that means so creative he's a terrific writer rocky unbelievable absolute the one liners that he comes up with on set are just funny that larry is you know is it right there we usually read the

e-mails easy to. tell me about that you didn't read for your part i had reason to talk to sly and moon was being considered for a hail caesar they were having trouble filling the role it was a reason that i think written for wesley and wesley was having these issues at that time and so we talked about changing it kind of working it around to fit me more and then they ended up getting terry crews who i thought was perfect. and kind of a road toll road without them. i didn't really know how although i just you know noticed that the name changed and then this character that we had discussed kind of what hail caesar would become became tollroad and i was i was excited tells you is the toll road college educated guy that you know these are these this is this family these guys are family is dysfunctional and quirky is they are these are the guys he lives in breeze for and will die for. and he's got that name because if you're going to get past him you're going to pay

a price. how does expendables three different from the other to tell me what's this who we after. august seem there's kind of this dichotomy of the young versus the old you know the tech savvy kind of new younger generation that will program your your v.c.r. or whatever it is you need them to do and play with the smartphone versus kind of the old school way of doing things and i'm kind of more in that old school the original expendables were kind of that old school mindset and losing the battle knows is mel gibson. and obviously a blast to work with and be part of a film that he's involved in to. fight in the film rights to the. to tell you how to fight you have to do secret for i mean you're not hitting them right which is one of the things i had to learn early on that a lot of different when you're really trying to punch somebody versus you know where the line of the camera is and all those things to make it look good without

actually hurting anybody never hurt anyone unfortunately that happens stunt guys are amazing but they definitely take the bumps they take their knocks and you know i thought that i get carried away but but find that fine line between you know really making contact with somebody or picking somebody up and really slamming them . and just making it look good is always a challenge my wife sure shot a movie in bulgaria and she loves sophia she had a great place what's it like to shoot far from home to be that far away and i think being in a hotel that long is the challenge fortunately the hotel they put us up in was great had an amazing gym spent a ton of time in the gym and it's an interesting locale for travel i mean days off i had i went to greece i went to the mountains the bands go in a great part of the world you consider one of the original superstars of m.m.a. did you know that you had the impact on the sport you had i mean every look at

yourself that way at least i don't i was just doing what i love to do at a passion for wrestling started it at the age of ten and wrestled all to school and college and and mixed martial arts kind of became an extension of rest and when did that catch on. it started in this country in one thousand nine hundred three it is going on in brazil in japan for quite some time and they kind of of the gracies in particular kind of put together a package that not only were going to promote that age old question who would win in the box or the karate guy. kind of thing that bruce lee started a long time ago they came up with a format that would answer a lot of those questions and because it is the answer well it became apparent that there was no one style that was better than the other you had to kind of amalgamate and learn a whole bunch of different styles and techniques and tactics to become a well rounded complete fighter and that's what mixed martial arts is did you want to be a fighter boxer as

a kid i love the box and that was live and i was the one thing my mom said no you're not going to box now she lashes like i should just let you box then you would have got it out of your system but. i loved boxing i thought it was a great sport you get been in the natural you know i fought vito belfort in one of my first big fights in the the only kind of mag that magazine that was covering this time was full contact fighter and joe gold said oh man you adapted to be tore style he's been beating everybody in and you kind of beat him it is a game you're a natural can i call you that and i'm like well i've been called a lot worse things i suppose that's fine and and handle just stuck what was the worship of hurt. i fractured in i thought an elbow and fractured this bone which which will blow yeah an elbow strike. it was for a heavyweight title and rico rodriguez caught me with a fight in a fight with a with an elbow and you call it you call to medic yes yes what do you mean it's

a national reaction sport you don't have time to think you really have to rely on your training and what you prepared for and each and every guy you faced poses a certain amount of problems physical problems and so in a kinetic sense you're playing chess is the other mind games and there is a psychological aspect to it to i think any athletic endeavor but certainly in an individual combative sport psychology is a huge thing and you and chuck liddell with the coaches the first season of the ultimate fighter and did that change the way the public looked at them and absolutely i think. it gave you know the reality genre was a perfect vehicle to break down people's misconceptions about who we are what we did everybody thought we were crazy that we were criminals because we got the cage and fought and obviously most of the guys in mixed martial arts that i know are college educated guys that just been competing in individual combat of sport the whole life and this is their outlet and so i think getting

a view behind the scenes to see how we train the type of people that we are the character that we possess the discipline the tactics the technique all those things that all came to light to that the ultimate fighter that proud of the sports worry about temptations they were about man and i think i mean you're certainly guys getting knocked out. so there is there is some trauma to the brain but i don't think it's a huge issue i don't think we're going to see a bunch of punch drunk mixed martial artist walking around the career spans pretty short and i probably pushed farther than anybody and at fourteen years thirty five with the grappling in the and the wrestling nature of the sport you just don't see a lot of head always. the toughest fight with thirty and the first time i fought pedro his though in atlantic city at trump college mall and five brown battled back and forth a lot of people thought i lost the fight but i want to unanimous decision and i was confident i had won three of the five rounds but it took off in vegas to absolutely

i think when the fertitta spotted in two thousand. and eight they had this savvy to kind of get it approved within about a state athletic commission which is the biggest at the commission in the country and and that in some ways changed the sport as well now you were tired in two thousand and eleven that age forty seven officially retired you had to come back though you were tired in canberra tired at forty three for about thirteen months well you know but came back as i felt like i had more to do you want to get the right one heavyweight title again. was there a big difference fighting at forty seven than at thirty three. thankfully i think i was smarter forty seven i'd refine my training to do reflexes that could have been a sharp you know i think they were i was certainly a better fighter at forty five forty six forty seven than i was at thirty three and

thirty four what do you think are some of the current champions where they did john jones i just saw a couple amazing athletes and kind of this new prototype to a five at his height and the range and reach that he has he's got the wrestling ability he's put together the striking ability. done against him i have would have been interesting came last as another guy that that again has become this in the heavyweight division where the the ten ten c. was to be these really really big guys and he sees two fifteen s and he's not that big but he's got all he's got a great gas tank and chris weidman weidman is kind of the new kid on the block and i think now continuing to prove that he deserves to be there now you could costar in the expendables three with ron the rose and over on the wrong as well we're going to work with her on the queen of m.m.a. right now yeah that is she she's very very good implementer judo background as well as anybody i've seen and it's very intense and i think very strong

a lot of girls are going to have trouble dealing with the strength that she possesses and she like doing a movie i think she like that she showed a prepared she was ready to go she was fun to work with. yeah she was great we had as m.m.a. go for it thing i think it continues to solidify itself as the combative sport for this generation i think it's it's expanding globally there's flights and promotions all around the world now and a lot of countries and really really kind of a foundation for a grassroots mixed martial arts is growing on amateur fighters the business side of randy couture after this. technology innovation. developments around. the future covered.

i don't know. like. crap. like. take my advice. like. that's. what. i'm. going. to. bed with randy couture one of the many stars of expendables the third version of the expendables opens aug fifteenth you become quite a business when we get this right you have

a chain of gyms extreme could tour m.m.a. a clothing one a supplement company a foundation honoring vets in a company focused on training professional athletes using m.m.a. to mates what to get in the business. i think two things i think the light bulb went off for me walking down the studio walk in june the very first time i fought there and walk and now they really have to show pretty early in wa path to store it was juicy couture store and he and i see my last name on the side and it's like holy cow that's good lady it's my name as it were you kind of the light bulb went off and i think the ideas for the clothing line and all that stuff grew out of that . some of it was niche we needed training centers i think as mixed martial artist we're going to the boxing gym. in going to the wrestling match at the college going to the fitness center to get our strength conditioning there was no training center that encompassed all of that for m.m.a.

and i think lion's den team quest extreme to tour a lot of those gyms grew out of that need for a place under one roof that had all that and you named yours extreme couture what is due to a french it is french and then that led to you have a clothing line in the supplemental company was that up the line i think most of the supplements that i'd seen throughout my athletic career were geared towards physique competitions in bodybuilding and didn't really help me perform didn't help me recover from the workouts i was doing i was more interested in staving off aging and recovering from the intense workouts that i was putting my body through and so i designed a line that was more athletic based and that's what the x. camp program is because someone is a great athlete doesn't mean they can be a great coach in fact sometimes it's hard to be a great coach because they know too much absolute i'll get to you you train i enjoyed coaching goes a coach before i was a fighter certainly a coach at oregon state university and i was forced to do demonstrations in the

army representing wrestling i was forced. to do summer camps to make ends meet in college and it put me in that coaching position where i had to explain to another athlete how i did what i did and i had to break it down by the numbers to do that and i think that was the kind of the training ground for me in becoming a coach but now on t.v. you left to go to spike right that's coach the deal with spike what's come in there the it was a two year deal with spike to do scripted and scripted television obviously the first installment of unscripted stuff we did was with fight master kind of a show along the lines of the ultimate fighter we now have a show coming out called jim rescue like their bar rescue property which is their number one show and by human rights do what happens i think shamrock and i go into . failing gym space or glee and trying to help them turn around well it's fun so many things i do keep up with yourself and i i sometimes can't find my butt with

both hands is your son not to m.m.a. to my and my oldest is competing trains with meetings for him to tour las vegas and ryan's fighting has been fighting for five or so years now is vegas home makes his home now half of it is the family of three children. and i like bigots a lot surprisingly a little warm in the summer and this time of year you have the president dana white who was a guest on this show wasn't too pleased when you left us see what i believe i mean spike offered me a fantastic deal to to do more television and be involved in there was a really getting those offers from from the u. of c. is doing some commentating for fox but it was of fairly small deal and you have any personal feelings regarding day and you know it was my son was trying to compete in the year of c and i i don't feel like he got a fair shake from dana and i think that was directed at me and that's that's the only issue that i really have and he. he is what he is he does the best that he can

i think in the he's running the monster so many things go on with you any other help coming projects. that's it right now focused on expendables three and their medical bills for i think so why not i don't see how that could be back double garia absolutely you write poetry i've been writing since i was in college what kind. of you have pros. recently started doing a little more haiku stuff but like what i'll just whatever occurs to me see a lot of things i get to travel a ton and see and we're just in cannes for the film festival and went to a sixteenth century you know village there that was amazing. and some of the things you see. to put some words to it being published yet never been published ever submitted for publishing i have

a couple of books but nothing nothing to do with what the poetry books about wrestling about having fighting wrestling an autobiography. i've interviewed many poets and maybe tell me the difference in poetry and novels and the other kind of writing is there's no such thing as a wasted word true i think there is to every word mean something and trying to figure out how they fit together in and yeah one change one word here or there can create a whole different meaning you're a renaissance man we have some social media questions joanna sixteen zero five m. is there going to be an expendables for but do you think there will be i think there will be there is already talk about it even though we haven't seen what three is going to do yet it's a great cast of guys in and i think everyone gets to have everyone gets along well . terek and why when you're preparing for a fight scene do you focus on m.m.a. techniques from the u.f.c. days. i definitely try to infuse that into some of the things you do obviously you

work with the stunt coordinator the to come up with the scenes and how they fit and how the choreography fits together with the stunt guys you're using but you know they know my background and they want to see that stuff too that everybody says it's popular so at g.m. jenison if you could only choose one would you want a lightsaber or a hobo board i would probably have to go with a lightsaber at mach or nineteen eighty eight do you really use your cauliflower ears as weapons in the cage when clinch. god gave me armor these are you're born with it came from wrestling. the thick they're hard and they they did protect my head does it affect your hearing my deafness is selective larry. right you've used that. car on facebook so who would win a real fight you or gently i you know i my first movie experience with jet and jet be the first one to tell you that he's not a fighter he's a martial artist and an acrobat he's an amazing amazing martial artist but i don't

think he's a fighter i don't think he has the fighters mentality and he's considerably smaller than me or that we would not be in the same weight class as a kid when you would watch boxing newness all the others we use is there anyone you would want to fight. ali would have been good in m.m.a. would make i think he would avoid i think he would have speed very interesting and absolutely great athlete only play a little game of if you only knew ok who's the first girl you have a kissed cherie dormer where was this this was and when would washington my neighbor oh it was in the third grade wow with it happen it it happened in in my yard whatever happened to her. good question i have no idea they moved away and lost contact craziest stuff you've done yourself. then i think

probably the the fight scenes in the tunnel in the first expendables we did a lot of crazy stuff in the tunnel fight scenes favorite music to work out to ac d.c. favorite action star from your youth. man i was a big fan of sylvester stallone in rambo i was real then filmed in hope washington and i grew up in washington current fighting i'd like to fight. current fighter i'd like to fight on my gosh. steven seagal doesn't count as a. steven seagal favorite action sequence from a film of yours. i love the. the the fight sequence in the third installment of the bourne identity when he

takes the book off the bookshelf and they all get all that amazing fight scene one of their act as a pressure with their fighting skill. been very impressed with obviously a lot of the stuff that jason statement does and off wonder. i've gotten a chance to spar with him and got to know him when he was that needed karate the biggest prankster on the expendables that biggest prankster i think is probably sly himself with the not the one liners and the things that he comes up with on set quietist the actor from the movie quietest actor. well it wasn't until you know banderas in a scene on set really. he was the funniest funniest antonio was incredibly funny who's the most intimidating. mel gibson maybe maybe mel biggest kautz is klotz.

their records and see it quite to really die your closest to from the film i think terry crews favorite film hero of all time film hero. be rambo yes yeah we're in john rambo favorite villain or. villain. i can't think of a villain oh i would think of see who is my favorite villain the incredible killer who eight people oh hannibal lector annabelle as a great villain of him superman or batman batman. super bra you'd like to have i said batman but flying would be pretty cool. flying would be to super yeah if you travel back in time what era would you like to live in. i think

the old west i figure that. let the good tour make sure you see him as tollroad in the expendables three in theaters all this fifteenth and also on spike t.v. he's given rescue all the stamp and the money can find me on twitter with kings things like c.n.n. dot. com

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