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join me here you have nato roadmap for the next ten years. photo album live from marty's newsroom i'm nice in our way tonight a ceasefire the no ceasefire complete confusion surrounding a peace plan in the ukraine crisis we've set the record straight this as another russian journalist is confirmed dead in the war zone a tribute to photographer i'm sorry stan you who lost his life documenting violence in east ukraine and nato is beefing up or at least hopes to obama's in the baltics trying to boost funds ahead of an alliance summit in the u.k. you're in the now.
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this was supposed to be the news of the day russia and ukraine which are even officially at war agreed to a cease fire. once again check your facts there's no war between russia and ukraine plus eventually it turned out that there was no ceasefire at all and the confusion could be the result of contradictory messages flying from kiev first there was this tweet from petro poroshenko he said he had spoken to president putin by phone and they reached an agreement on a permanent cease fire not yet said russians we just agreed on the steps leading to a cease fire and again not between moscow and kiev but between kiev and the opposition wrong wording said ukrainians and then putting it was like i have
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a plan seven points here are the key wants both sides the army and the opposition should lay down arms troops should be pulled back to eliminate shelling of cities and then there's opening humanitarian corridors for refugees those need to be organized well to talk more about this plan the media confusion and the conflicts in general political scientist brag about how joins us live in the now we're also asking you our audience to tweet us what you could you think could be a possible plan for peace comments will appear on the bottom of the screen thanks brad for being with us what do you think about the incident toll is planned. well you know last time we spoke. two months ago. there was a. stand and i was asked did i really start it and then when they
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didn't and i don't believe me in this matter that's a skeptical statement there this of course is just a roadmap what do you think needs to happen in order for any kind of peace to prevail them. well you know what first of all there has to be a recognition of what is what is the actual issue here and the actual issue here is do the people of the haves and and don't ask have the right to self-determination that's just a question of how and it's a political question and the ukrainian government is not recognizing not so it doesn't have to be recognized and if that's recognized then the forces of the ukraine government need to be taken outside of that territory of course i mean that's just part of what would be expected in any process anywhere in the world how much time and what would it take you think before kiev scraps an offensive in the east well. ukraine army has suffered a lot of casualties but haven't really been clear to people there i think for
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people in ukraine and the government in ukraine perhaps the west putting pressure on them might help them but i don't see that happening i don't see. that some people are seeing i don't see an end to this conflict in the near future i think it's going to continue to escalate that's unfortunate comment i just want to talk about some of the civilian casualties in the east because we certainly have been reporting on them we're seeing a lot of implications at least this morning certainly that this was a cease fire that this is a war between u.k. in crane and russia of course that is not the case why the misinformations well you know it's really a little it's bit of politics as if i mean the ukraine government as soon as he got off the phone likely put out a tweet you know he had reached agreement with the agreement russia and the governor russia were quite accurately pointed out that this is an accomplishment in russia and ukraine and so i mean this is and in my opinion this is an attempt by the ukrainian government to choose to essentially russia recognized the combat
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as the the person the country that's responsible for the crisis obviously would be seeing very different pictures if this was a true war between ukraine and russia am i wrong. i think. it's obvious that it's not a war between ukraine and russia because if it were war between ukraine and russia would have been over to it how months ago i mean russia has a very powerful military always house and it would have crushed ukraine a long time ago so i mean this is not a war between the three and russia as far as i'm certain this is this is this is an attempt to destabilize russia internationally by the west right back of an equivocal scientist with us in the mountain i thank so much for your thanks for having us. well here's my care would in fact benefit from a cease fire just some official statistics for you twenty six hundred civilians
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have been killed in ukraine since kiev launched its offensive seven hundred thirty thousand ukrainians left their homeland for russia more than one hundred thousand internally displaced on the other side we have the army here says almost eight hundred government troops have been confirmed killed and more than two and a half thousand wounded while there are suspicions in ukraine that that real number could be much higher both of killed and injured. sure paris assuring everyone that there is no threat to french deliveries of mistral helicopter carriers to russia if not then here's what the french foreign minister tweeted in june the contracts were agreed to and they will be carried out all despite european sanctions against russia of course and this is why president obama said just two weeks ago he said there was no threat to the deal and it's
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brussels who decided to go all out with sanctions after all not frowns now france might be taking it back the latest statement from paris says that despite the prospect of a cease fire in ukraine there are no conditions for france to deliver its first warship the contract has been not counsel but frozen at least for now the two ships they were commissioned by russia in two thousand and eleven at the cost of one point six billion dollars the first of these were due to come into service at the end of the year and in france decides to dump the deal it will have to pay a huge fine of up to ten billion dollars according to experts i wonder whether this has anything to do with an upcoming summit of nato member states in wales something tells me it just might have more on that later in the show.
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another russian journalist was killed in east ukraine photographer under a stand and was missing for a month before his death there were reports that he was arrested by ukrainian security forces and they were denied and up until now his family and friends never gave up hope and that he was traveling in a convoy of refugees and opposition fighters when they came under heavy fire near the city of dine yachts standing was an experience of war photographer he works for russia's ria novosti news agency also contributed to reuters and the associated press more than a dozen journalists have been killed abducted interrogated and tortured in ukraine with responsibility laying on both sides and i'm very sad is yet more proof that even the laws of war are not working when it comes to this conflict to meet requests to call the freelance photographer who contributes to johns france press the new york times the mom just to name a few joins us in the mountain night thanks so much for being with us why do you think more and more journalists are falling victim to this conflict in ukraine. i
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think there are two reasons first of all because there are too many sides in this war so it's militias regular ukrainian army and the interior russian army so there are too many sides not as a reason and these four people realize the influence of media is much more than usually used to be and people doesn't take it anymore as just a jolly as they think it is a. complex country had been missing for quite a while why do you think that it took so long before his death was actually confirmed. i think this is the same reason because too many sides and it's very difficult to to move from one part to another part of for a new brain and it's very difficult to find in some people just. don't know
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anything about another group of militias for example there's been so many stories of journalists taken hostage on both sides certainly many deaths in you in the ukrainian conflict you're in france is this a story that people outside of russia are hearing much of specifically speaking about i'm very i can see the people speak a lot about exactly and really people really care about the story but not exactly the spot because i think when for example when i was in afghanistan in two thousand and ten it was ten years of the war and america was really interested in this topic but all of the countries doesn't really go very deep inside the same here in europe so people carry a lot of these conflicts but not so deeply so we don't really i didn't hear that so many people on the street speak about these colleagues of course yes but. not every
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speech will write to me to request to call freelance photographer as a contributor to a have people so much for being with us in the i'm very much thank you. we want to take this moment and pay tribute to andre his grieving family and colleagues and show you how he saw this conflict through his lands and gave his life for his work and so we want to share that with you.
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a new kid on the block in the media world ukraine today a channel which is attempting to position itself as an informative outlet not a propaganda pusher for kiev well an invitation to discuss the conflict was twisted into a cheap troll trick by ukraine today executive right here live in the now you might have seen it but just for fun let's watch it again joining us in the now is to tiana push no but the executive producer of ukraine today i just want to share our audience a little taste of your broadcast. your. can we see that when our name is like you are also responsible for cells and cells and of this in my country and russia today who financed by criminally in. my county you lie about ukraine and that's why you don't want to communicate as you and they call to
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my international colleagues don't cooperate to visit russia today could you just tell us a little bit more about ok very good ok so informative coming on russia today again russia today to tell us and the world that we are government funded nice job exposing us not so nice to lie and say that we cut you off pull the plug is how the hijacks interviewed was described on the ukraine today youtube channel i'm pretty sure we not only let you finish speaking but then kept the feed running for your russia today live banner even though it was bad grammar. we even went back to the banner a second time just to make sure everyone got a good look now the sad part is we had some important questions for ukraine today like who is this independent channel funded by unlike us their budget is
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a corporate secret as told to the b.b.c. but it's not a secret who owns the company i don't want to turn this into a smear campaign just google eager call moist. certainly one of ukraine's the richest men has no interest in the media. ukraine today bringing internet closer to the. ukraine. imperial forces which threaten the whole of the civilized world another grammar mistake there by the way but anyway no message at all completely objective journalism i'm sure you'll have lots of coverage of civilian casualties by government forces in the east on ukraine today. we are ukrainian but they kill us this man says so we probably need our own country
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because these people in kiev they are not brothers for us because our signal of the truth movement that's. what it's going to go but the ball. on the ground and each horse so hard for told me especially for twenty seventh when you're twenty and mark on little dates acquire it. is that the real story and you to go. who could do you think we used to dunce seeing do everything in ukrainian she says. but i assume but you missed a part of the tank oh please listen to us why don't you understand your people be a man be human please stop your aggression stop this world. that was c.n.n. just in case you don't want to take our word for it that people in ukraine are dying and they are pointing figures they are pointing fingers rather but not at us so for one professional to another ukraine today good luck.
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obama is lobbying in a stony are raising money for nato to bolster a military presence in eastern europe in the wake of the ukrainian crisis so as the money or big round russia will attack you and your sovereignty that's the message. here in the baltics it would mean positioning more american equipment so it's ready if needed. it would mean more training and exercises between our military. and it would mean that more u.s. forces including american boots on the ground continuously rotating through a stony labia and lithuania pushing out more cash to build up in response to russia
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right on its border is one of the key issues to be discussed during an upcoming nato summit in the u.k. currently the twenty eight member states spend as much as a trillion dollars a year maintaining what the alliance already has that means the organization alone gets more military funding than the rest of the world put together. washington is currently footing most of the bill with just over a quarter of nato's budget made up by other members so you get why they want to fundraise members in the alliance are supposed to contribute two percent of their g.d.p. each year but not everyone does in fact more than eighty five percent of countries on the list aren't willing or simply not ready to provide that much cash and then there's those e.u. countries who are not official nato members but might as well be finland and sweden they've long been partners but again not officially these so-called neutral nations they're not so neutral after all nato will soon be able to deploy its forces in
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finland and sweden under new agreements as new levels of partnerships are being hashed out let's bring al birken investigative journalist based in sweden into this discussion he joins us live from stockholm recently sweden's defense minister has said that there is a very sharp difference between being a member and not being a member that they're an active partner with nato and they want to deepen the partnership even further what is that sharp line for sweden what's the point of closer times with no ties i should say with no membership well the sharp line does not exist except as a propaganda message to the swedish people who or. by rather large majority against becoming a member of nato. it's clear that the line has been almost totally eradicated in fact two thousand and five almost ten years ago an official of the defense department here said that the only thing that remains for us to become
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a formal member of nato is to get a signature on a piece of paper one other words the preparations and the quitman. coordination all of these things were so advanced that. essentially sweden was informally in and in effect a member who benefits from back seat support is it a financial move from sweden and i think it's hard to say with when there are financial interests involved they usually don't come forward and announce themselves of course. there is. a continual call for increasing military expenditures of course all military. operations have that general trend and becoming more involved would need to require usually an increase in investment as your introduction piece mentioned so there are there are financial interest of course in
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sweden those have one of the largest. weapons trades proportionately in the world but i think the moving forces behind this the main moving force behind this have been the swedish military especially the navy and the air force which have been cooperating often secretly with united states nato for for decades really let me know if you say who would benefit more from sweden being part of nato sweden or nato. well in my opinion certainly nato would benefit more mainly from a public relations standpoint because sweden has still has a fairly good reputation in the world and has been regarded as a peace loving country so anything that can have the which they say the
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task before explicit approval of the swedish government would increase the which lie say the saleability of nato wars and other adventures what is the threat in europe why does nato need so much support. well that business about the threat from russia sounds very familiar in fact it was an alleged threat from the soviet union that was the. justification for the foundation of nato back in one hundred forty nine in fact there was no threat as even the united states most expert opinion say that at the time including the secretary of state john foster dulles it was a rabid anti communist he said he didn't he never talked to any one who knew anything about the soviet union who believe that they were preparing to attack at any time in the future near future so there are several reasons why that threat was
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created. one of the most important and perhaps the most important was for the us to be able to maintain control over europe there are several centrifugal forces in play at the time we can go into that if you want to but that was certainly a prime motive and now. this ukrainian crisis and the earlier one in the crimea has provided an excuse for nato to expand and to. call for increase expenditures and so on and so forth. that it plays it has several functions. not least in sweden. all right thanks so much albert with us on the line live from stockholm in the mountain night thanks again for being with us. ok. well that does it hurt me tonight we'll have much more for you tomorrow on the nato summit in a while for to you that. i'm
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not a politician but we see that it is arab countries that sit on the world's greatest we reserve and the west just cannot stay away from such tremendous wealth so in order to get their heads without oil the west employs what i was all cultural interest from. years in retreat ukraine civil war has grounded into a stalemate and the economy is crushing this is created an opening for dialogue all parties seize the moment when will moscow continue to be blamed. well told you my language as well but i will only react to situations as i have
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read the reports so i'm not in a position to know i will leave that to the state department to comment on your latter point of the month to say to mr carryin a car is on the docket to know god i. hope they do no more weasel words. when you made a direct question be prepared for a change when you have to. be ready for a. critical speech and a little down to freedom to cross. please. please please please. please let your cultural phenomena like the bank of new college face i do sometimes you. lose sleep.
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a pastry shop in many many. red square demonstrations are feaster case saying it away for six years you'll see they're covering themselves. as a sort of. seven pm in moscow i matras or bring you today's breaking news coverage here on r.t. international ukraine's president says there's been a coup in his country opposition activists in full control of the ukrainian capital kiev now and the new interior minister says police are now on their site the presidential residence stands virtually abandoned after the head of state himself
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fled the city or he's alexei or a chef ski is live for us in kiev with all the latest alexei. oh. yes indeed despite that what seems to be a true political may have the mayhem in the streets of the riots changed the political situation right now with obviously all the governmental buildings in kiev now if you applied by the opposition including the administration of the president the parliament the government all that most of the ministries including the ministry of defense the ministry of the in syria the lex airship ski they're giving us that update from kiev. so it's actually you know rather good morning to you right now. bill it is only shooting tires burning for the president and most of the ruling party will confirm what capital. in fact.
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