it's just gum up the entire policy making process to the point where nothing. that translates into hundreds of billions of dollars of sales and profits so the whole game is just slow down. in the documents on dr preston martin other even more machiavellian scenarios were studied. here it was suggested that talks be held with the scientist. and hear a proposed seminar in order to lure her. to the aim to influence her and even shape the conclusions of her future studies. the common point of these documents they all come from the same lobbying firm multinational business services. already hired by philip morris to contest the effects of passive smoking on health and headed by a certain jim toth see

a master of influence. amazingly in washington the heart of american power this lobbyist is still well established. as he never answered our requests for an interview we went to see him without an appointment with our documents in hand and a hidden camera it's. into the us he works here who are you is the difference engine list i'm looking for. and i'm looking on the number. of the new point wouldn't know who i was just for him because i could from friends but if you just incentives these. is the good

news american lobbyists can be welcoming. we even managed to have jim talk to you on his cell phone. here come in here please. jim can you hear me. i want to ask you some questions susan system not to. work. because you have the set up a strategy to discredit to work for us come here so i wanted to know more about this. well. i don't know if you're just talking about. me and i know if you do your work in congress i'm going to ask you that you know i can say no i'm going to have to as you believe. understand you if you like the

welcoming lobbyist you love the angry why i'm asking you to with no play enough to sleep now join me to not leave you could lose your yes please please i'm ordering you out can't just leave now that it's out. here. do you understand that you have a tough life out here and you cannot go back. to do you had to end like that. in the end mr trott's he did a great job well at least for the industrialist. back then and he pressed the martin arguments were brought into the media spotlight. by this health journalist on a major national t.v. channel a few days after the publication of the famous study. let's get back to our hot dog study remember they asked the people did you eat a hot dog they didn't ask them did you put it in a bun did you put ketchup on it did you put mustard on. you might be saying who

really cares one way or the other but that's important because it may be that it's not the hot dog at all that's causing this increased risk of cancer or maybe it's the bun maybe it's the ketchup maybe it's the mustard so you have to be careful when you read these studies not to say oh this causes this. the powers that be didn't go any farther than one nine hundred seventy s. nitrites file which could have resurfaced remains locked away. you're probably wondering what susan president thinks the woman targeted by the lobby. we showed her the documents and what upset her the most was seeing that fellow scientists had played along with the industrialists. these professors will get paid a huge amount to do review by in this case probably the american media institute i mean thousands and thousands of dollars they probably get more from doing this

kind of thing than they do from their regular jobs. seeing your name like this in all. my goodness a i gave a lot of people a lot of work. were you aware of this well i was aware that the processed meat community was concerned but not aware of all the extent of this. twenty years on and she had turned the page. not of interest anymore that's how. the public awareness of science goes it's of interest in that it's not of interest seen in all that work but today but it doesn't it doesn't matter i mean it's still in the literature and. it may influence people in future and it has influence people in the past and that's fine. but another scientist involved in the case has enjoyed

a much more flourishing career. a scientist paid by the american meat institute to shoot down susan preston martin's work. david clear found. today david gergen is head of the u.s. government's nutrition program and he's invited all over the world for a scientific conferences where he gives his experts point of view. totally independent. this week to. introduce reasons why the need is in order to be healthy diet has been just. on that day he was in france speaking to scientists from around the world about meat and the link between processed meat and cancer in order to denounce backed up by a power point the climate of fear panic and even hysteria. and we know because we were there. it was right at the start of our investigation when we barely knew

about nitrites and had the need of enlightened specialists to help us. so there are new reviews published this year that say nitrite is not harmful and others that say it is harmful. i don't think anybody really knows. definitively but the answer is. a few months after this handshake you can learn more about the industry and doubt bells started ringing. so we took advantage of our trip to america to ask him for another interview. only this time and a lot more cards up our sleeve. do you remember being paid by the american media institute no never no i was

interested in the scientists was interesting martin do you know her id i know who she is i do not know her personally i do remember reading a paper on her desk for the american media institute found this and it was prepared for the american it institute. ok. this is something different yes. this was done twenty years ago roughly so. i had forgotten about that do you remember how much you were paid for this evaluation i do not as i said it was twenty or twenty five years ago you didn't know when you were working for the american to do this or that philip morris was opening their. i'm not going to say yes or no at this point in time because it's more than twenty years ago did you know that the strategy moto was docked is our product no i never

heard that ro. dell twas your productive. that was not mine and that was not my intent my intent was to do an evaluation. if i had read these papers and found that they were not short. cummings in the papers that they would not deficiencies in the papers i don't think i would have criticized them but your point of view would be stronger and stronger. i hadn't found that to have been wrong by the american meat institute. no i don't i don't think that. would change it wouldn't change my point of view it might change your point of view that you tend to not believe what i'm saying because twenty five years ago i got some amount of money that i don't remember. for making

progress he can't remember how much but he does remember getting paid. but you have to understand that the industry is a money making business so they're very risk averse they would not fund a study that. someone proposed to them that eating hot dogs increases the risk of childhood cancer why would they fund that you know they would only fund something that says proposes childhood cancer is prevented by eating more hotdogs or there's no relationship you know they're not going to fund a study that. is bad for their business. at least he's honest much of the meat industry is lobbying depends on collaboration with paid scientists and that's still how things work. during a conference on frost meats and cancer. of french scientists confirm that. he's

a reference on the subject internationally renowned expert. he speaks and acts casually and doesn't get telling us how things work at fight if you give. me. so you get to point. b. it's a deep also they go it just comes to me. for me and all they do. it was if you change does a milf it is because if you all just get into a more fit just so i mean until i do confess. my new shirt she can meet. me at the. fifty fifty split if he does he gets what's not going to be about what you did was a mystery she didn't put on the one. in

case you're new to the game this is how it works the economy is built around corporate preparations from washington to washington the media. the media. and voters elected businessman to run this country business equals power you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before. use your money in their village like my real age and then you have the kind of which i have for sure. you'll have to suffer while people think we do not to die by being hunted thing and being choked but the pots we are being

isolated because i was skinny caught.

social environment. right. chemical discoveries over the last century made every day life easier but at what cost this is cereal is exceptionally sick. no wonder it's confidential. says sister years old industrial giants reap the benefit ignoring the caused by chemical production. you know as if these people aren't people just experimental animals decades later the toxic environment. continues to poison lives. these astronomically high levels of dioxin levels that my staff think maybe some of the highest levels in the united states almost. this very serious problem have not actually been addressed. investigation into the chemical industry secrets revealed.

specific. a few days later. photos of scientists he suspects of being close to the food industry. to americans he came across at a conference on meat and cancer. and nathan bryant. as we checked out these scientist profiles we discovered a document which should certainly never have been on the web. internal report issued by the american meat institute. it lays out the strategy for influencing the decisions of high profile organizations.

this organization is the i r c international agency for research on cancer. this institution. is the worldwide reference on cancer. in two thousand and six. scientists classified nitrites in the probably carcinogenic category of products group too. and that was bad for business. so lobbyists are fighting to have this classification. james. page sixty four of the document. change in the i.r.c. nitrate nitrate classification from two aged to be cool possibly crushed into. the strategy has a name i am r.c. challenge. is notably involves the two scientists we were interested in

andrew mohl koski and nathan bryant. armed with our brand new file it was time to set off to meet the meet sectors heavyweights. welcome to nashville tennessee the capital of country music and notably the hometown of joining catch. it's here at the american meat institute is holding its annual conference. in this huge building to be precise. the meat industry in the u.s. is a very very big business. all of the world's biggest players are here. smithfield number one imports with a turnover of fourteen billion dollars a year cargo the giant with thirty three billion dollars

a year in crude alone. and tyson all divisions record holder this year will meet. with all of our divisions between or. prepared between thirty seven billion and forty billion dollars in revenue so it's a snowball many very small companies. and. we checked it's over forty one billion dollars. after half an hour we spot a face in the crowd that rings a bell. that will and they're testing nibbles at every step. that's right page ninety two of the i.r.c. challenge document with the short hair the american media institute senior vice president of public affairs janet riley. is just please sorry no my lieutenant try that yes yes hello i'm from him you go i'm

looking for close to on precisely ten to answer and the question about seduction type found. it's is this documented do you know it i'm sorry. i wanted to supposed to. poke it and i didn't see it registered no no actually it was in fact just so but i have some important question that you keep your business yes of course i have mine step journalist caught just a question that i want you to know what do you know about the eos challenge you know might be a octet into your camera and silly know what i'm good at that it's about not touch and dancers think you know this is my study and i want to know who came so much for our interview not me why you disagree with you why you are. having been escorted outside. this is my press khant ok. order to show id we try one last time it's close do. what tobacco industry did for t.k.

that's your opinion that's your opinion what we're doing is providing science based here if he does this that our products are safe and it's political see right there but are you paying the scientists know you've got a camera will we know you. look away for such cases we always have a plan b. . on the list of i.r.c. challenge scientists there was one who agreed to see us the first on the list. andrew. that. we had to madison wisconsin. this city in the north of the united states is home to andrew mohl housekeeper and the company of hot dog king oscar meyer who we came across in the preston martin case. the scientist

worked for this company for thirty years. he now teaches at the university. but he doesn't hide his proximity to the american meat lobby. presented with our i.a.r. sea challenge documents he acknowledges everything. almost. so did the meat industry paid you for this i received some compensation for my time as well as the others how much i am likely to say i don't know thousands tens of thousands of dollars. small amounts can we have an idea. in descending nitrite seems to be a very big thing for industry looking for a substitute. has been attempted. and was it

a toll sally. something as chemically simple as nitrite. and this is unique as nitrate having a substitute is not been possible to anyone's ability but if there is more risk of getting cancer don't you think it's important to try to find a solution now as we're going to review because they do not believe that that risk is is true you think there is no risk at all i think the risk is. if it is indeed exists. on hearing that we pulled this expression. so for andrew wilkow ski the colorectal cancer the hundreds of studies on the dangers of nitrites none of it exists off you go nothing to do with it. in the united states it's thanks to scientists like milk cows that the meat

industry has been able to cut another notch in its belt. surprisingly in the health conscious state of california. this imposing building is home to the state cabinet level california environmental protection agency. we have an appointment with sam dell sent deputy director for external and legislative affairs. to show us a document that doesn't exist in any other american state with a shell or not and. so me. so this is the lists yes it's a list of substances judged dangerous to man by the state of california. to do business here manufacturers are banned from using these substances or they are

obliged to warn consumers and it's very restrictive because there are over eight hundred products on the list so good example that would be tobacco smoke entirely and there's other things like as benzene that will be something you know we have come in things like exhaust and then here we have ants been on the news as aspirin you know it's a special note especially for pregnant women oh here's kind of an odd one but you know the breath and you know if you want to eat this go for it but be aware that you maybe don't want to eat it every single day so i'm doing fine try. i tried is not on the list. it's been here since nitrites has been targeted but procedures have never been seen through when we believe the chemical meets the criteria for listing we post what's known as a notice of intent to list and that triggers a period in which people can submit public comments on whether it does or does not

meet the criteria we review the comments before making a final decision to complete the. recording nitrites here are the comments that swung the scale of the seven contributions six come from food industry lobbyist. and with thirty one pages the winner is. before the interview we show. our documents on the. challenge and the attempts at influence. based as an avalanche of proof gathered during months of investigation he ends up taking out his cell phone to take photos. however in answering our questions he seems less inspired. we. it's their business if they think that they can. influence

a decision beyond the science but we want the science to the talking do you think it might happen that some times you are many predicted by the industry we. do our best. to make decisions based soley on the science regardless of whatever. pressure or words and said persuasion may be made by a any outside group ok. california will read salmon the dangers of nitrites but not before next year. for the lobby it's a mini victory time gained and profits not lost. in europe a new study on nitrite was expected in december two thousand and fifteen almost a year later it still has not been.

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