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hello and welcome to crossfire where all things are considered time peter lavelle the saudi qatar spot continues with no end in sight and new sanctions on russia divide nato allies also is the truth about ukraine finally coming to light lastly the west on civil society. talking stories in the news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow alex christopher oh he is the director and writer of the duran dot com we also have dimitri bobbitt he's a political analyst with international and we have exactly a row he is the founder of the center for political strategic analysis all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i were always appreciated and i want to stress to my guests and to our viewers that we do real news on this program here so the real story that i want to talk about is

this simmering saudi could tar stand up and it is very very important because you know we saw the president the united states side with the saudis when the saudis called in other arab countries called qatar state sponsor of terrorism that's a bit rich and we still have the president the united states signing off on a huge thing twelve billion dollars arms deal what is going on here and it's most importantly we have can forget that the united states has one of its most important military bases in the world in qatar eleven thousand troops by qatar twenty four funded by qatar so i mean this whole situation with qatar and saudi arabia has really changed the game from what. we're drawn during syria so during syria you had a whole set of alliances between. russia iran it saudi arabia qatar turkey etc now with this recent spat with this with this conflict between saudi arabia qatar everything has turned upside down you don't have. you have turkey and iran siding

with qatar you have russia tried to mediate but leaning a little more towards the qatari side you have the united states and trump tweeting about how saudi arabia should be supported qatar is the enemy and cetera but giving twelve billion in money and weapons to them so you have a whole different dynamic now which is just really been a tectonic shift from what syria was to work with these two countries are nominally american allies. well i think what we're seeing now is a breakdown a very long tradition in the western media would have been hearing for i think about sixty years do more chrissy don't fight each other american allies don't fight each other so do futile countries you know the cold would use countries like . china where it's all it's but they were bad well now we see how america now why saudi arabia and qatar are basically fighting each other and the problem is that

the port spawns some very very unseemly groups the only difference is that qadar sponsors the so-called muslim brotherhood right. brotherhood in palestine in egypt and brotherhood even came to power democratic a day at a certain moment saudi arabia sponsors what so we have a very unseemly situation would have the united states el light with countries that indeed spawned extremist groups we have the us president at the media it's saying that qatar has been funding terrorism and then said in weapons to qatar to the tune of twelve billion dollars it really opens up i've said to many people that in particular in america generally in western media is that you don't criticize israel too much and don't say anything about it so here. in the headlines and you don't have to dig very deep to find out what kind of regime the united states is. adding there in my opinion. of the good of this region because as you told

me the selling weapons you want to get some money and. live interesting what's happening really in the middle east is my opinion you know what i mean even though it's even been suggested in western media that he's not where deeply aware of american military presence there again i think it. is more interesting what happens inside the united states and you want to have free ends to do what you want inside you know it is that so we're ready to sacrifice. to. us foreign policy just to have the inside of it seems it seems that after his trip to riyadh the saudis feel very much in bold and then they can go down this path here i mean we have qatar we have saudi arabia united arab emirates we have the israelis all of them have extremely powerful well funded think tanks in washington d.c.

and it's being played out there they have actually they're well dug into social media technology companies as well because we also have the announcement that al-jazeera has a twitter went out for arabic went out for a day i don't even know if it's still doubt so i mean i think you see a type of warfare across. it's a blockade it's technology based it's media based so really you're seeing qatar kind of trying to stave off this sudden and very quick but you have pointed out before i mean is the extremely vulnerable and that's true but there are all vulnerable because actually these are dictatorships and with dictatorships we have been known to think since that time didas that citizens democracy you will fight us you keep soldiers if you care for a government which is more or less responsible to the people and that was the case in syria i mean now. they spat between saudi arabia and qatar we see they nischelle

planned on the west to have syria rule by. force us. with saudi arabia we've cut out it is simply on the walkable because next day october when president assad they will start to each other if you look at the. so it's. very clear that it's a very bad army. it's a very expensive border but you know it is very expensive military defeat against the yemeni human. troops coming for a. palestinian from arabs nobody would die for the king of saudi arabia so i have to agree with you that there is. and we have been going to they don't you know they have deep pockets but those pockets are not as deep as these because it's changed gears a little bit guys. called the german chancellor with the foreign minister of come

out against new sanctions that have been passed in the u.s. senate against russia and against iran and the germans are not taking it lightly alex and neither are the austrians take it because the. german and austrian companies involved in the energy sector and so they're going to get it essentially these companies are going to get punished by these sanctions german and austrian companies and i find this absolutely hilarious and it's extremely ironic because what i thought it was russia that always divided america not always not thinking it's not russia and i remember a few years back when russia did want to build a pipeline called south stream via turkey through to greece so greece would be a hub of energy towards europe what the e.u. backed by germany do they blocked it why because of sanctions because they. can come in and now they're doing this north stream turenne which is the second. of the main energy pipeline to europe and others. in

a second germany the germans are fine with it no problem ok richard lewis they have as. always they have their energy security that we have now trump so it's really kind of interesting is that she's angry at the americans and now the other european countries going to be angry with her because she's putting her country's energy interests above the e.u. she is seemingly the leader of the e.u. in the eyes of the liberal world i think what we see here is a total victory over ideology aggression fido what your over economic interests because look which are the most problematic countries in europe italy and greece they are the most indebted ones so the russian project saltine which was supposed to supply cheap russian energy to the states it could solve the evils programs you know italy and greece could have industries revived so what happened the e.u. as an ideological organization killed the souls to project you haven't. let me tell you. you know now the united states which is even more ideal we're just in the

european union he skated north stream to project which was supposed to take fifty five billion cubic meters of gas a year from russia beginning from with the year two thousand twinkies and here germans are suddenly saying wait wait wait i do all we do is good but we want industry we want you to guess because if you have germans think historically it is important you know the late chancellor kohl who died this week all the beatrice about him say that he was a great man but he put politics before economy at a certain moment when he was that is germany you know right united before it was economically prepared to do it so it cost germany huge amounts of money and it started the idea of a idea legislation over the your project when you actually see if you're really into you know it's really interesting is that it's the estimates here put these the last three years of sanctions is that the russia has been impacted by them. it is

you know i think it's one percent of g.d.p. per year but the europeans dollarwise have been hit twice as hard and you know it now you have the american congress john mccain lindsey graham the usual suspects are saying we want more sanctions against russia now they thinking about their european allies it's even worse because for russia there is some size of the sanctions are good for. imports substitution good for europe because for instance europe the french farmers and german firm with their last summer markets were with the recruiter and they won't ever get back and on the contrary you will soon have the russian pigs. to be sailed in france or in germany we have created one of the. competitor in the in the in the euro i mean alex when he is right here it is it is ideology that is trumps everything here it's not even the really difficult because in my opinion the key date is

a two thousand and nineteen because at this time ukraine to reimburse the loan they get from the european u.s. institution it's about sixty billion and allows it will bear that with as such a new situation if at the same time because two thousand and nineteen it's a date when a crew on contract between russia and ukraine for the gas transit would be over and so a new one would be set and of course if you have to deal with a project it would be not the same game for having a good rate has given twenty seconds here because you ukraine wants to stay into this energy equation ten seconds i think you. were economics because no one paid the ukrainian crisis europe didn't gain russia didn't gain. ok mr barghouti way to continue to talk about ukraine after our break and after a short break we'll continue our discussion on stories in the media stage with our .

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welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing stories in the media. ok team i want to go back to you i was going through the pages of the washington post and i came across a very interesting article here it is titled ukraine's alter right militias are challenging the government to a showdown written by a mr joshua cohen now it's a short little piece here my first reaction was this guy must have been living under a rock for the last three years because if you've been watching this program for the last three years we would have said we told you so well he's not the only one marvin colp you know the former n.b.c.

correspondent in moscow all the whole book about ukraine where he mentions the go to go to the national interest oh come on they have a brilliant review well go ahead absolutely and the nation also james came to publish there's something very good about it but the whole idea is that colp mentions the fact that there are extremist groups that would make this stop or you know who participated in that my he if he mentions the fact. it's going to cut off from food and water by the regime ten thousand people among them three thousand civilians were killed during the civil war there of course three thousand civilians i can tell ninety nine percent of them were. just support us or russia supporters because they were all killed in action regions and still despite all that mr trump and mr obama meeting mr poroshenko he's coming to what i want he's theorical. and it is here and the ukrainian media presents its actually huge

victory over russia trump is going to meet. before putin he is going to but we need to listen also saying the secretary of state is that he's saying the obvious you saying the minsk accords are not going anywhere the normandy format is going nowhere and you suggested to get a go around it merkel doesn't want to put a stop to about ukraine's turning into their problem or you think ukraine now is is a european problem for sure i think that the u.s. is definitely walking away from it i think trump will meet with fine though given enough money to monitor a mop without a lot of it enough just to skate by just to skate by they're not going to save it there's no way that the u.s. is going to especially trump that the u.s. is going to get involved in trying to mediate the ukraine crisis try to find a way out of it and then the whole washington post article to me is absolutely stunning it's silly he decided he's victoria nuland he suddenly became it's not

having dinner with these ultra nationalists during the bite out of his photos that they're solely on this mission to me it serves their service leaders it's a clear example so don't forget that two months ago the three chiefs of the utah writes in ukraine. in a cynical poos sign an agreement to push. you yeah so open war against poroshenko they opened up this pandora's box so you could overthrow a government you don't like ok we have a new government we're going to overthrow this one well this is a bad practice and it's hardly ever talked about this is the problem of heating the e.u. in every sense from north stream to ukraine it's just karma coming right back to the. old the country with those groups because believe me on this is this of course in the pulpit those kinds of. ways over the next you know to go people and rest and to keep. you know when you look at what it's like the roman legions

you wanted them out in the i.c.u. you don't want them coming home ok and they can go back to give any time they want and as it is there is an interesting fact this week two times. troops abundance and positions on the front. you can see that and in turn it on air in the air force is coming and. abundant position from the from so it means that. they don't serve us and it was too old a line of doing that and preferring coming back to give to because it's not so dangerous than being in the desert fighting against their own in their army and i am afraid we are going to stay for a while for two reasons first. because he shut his eyes when the so-called extremists got electricity to create meal last year so russia had to supply all the electricity itself he shut his eyes when the extremists stopped the

shipments of call from the boss now in fact in fact basically pushing down boss away from you and then we go to your nationalist issues like language access to the internet here i mean again i don't know western puppet is against. speech yes. tranquil prohibit russian social networks in ukraine which is like pretty big in facebook in canada and but the problem is he will stay because of these policies he already sort of snatched extremist voices from probably sector and from that and second if there is a rebellion against him unlike on the quality in the article which because a license to shoot from the west if he just shoots all of his opponents you know debt you know the west is going to say he just short that actually committing the crime is almost all that she says chiefs of the nurses groups there are m.p. . it is

a unity and you can see them for as friends and so i was trying to. keep someone. to direct her and it wasn't punished but of course the european union doesn't like to say the obvious thing about this regime ok that's where i found this washington post and that ever was so interesting because they we they had an agreement before the coup they would have a political process a transition loosening up the powers of the presidency and unocal which signed it you agreed to it and the next day there was the coup the european union would not saying illegal behavior of partners that it had in any european union trade agreement yes if you create that agreement you mean it if you try to agreement. on this program many times before and you pointed out very very clearly they do know a day before they were shaking unico but your hand and patting them on the back at a boy that's our guy and then they walked away from him they walked away from their

own agreement that they were and they pretend that there was absolutely no reason for him to leave to come or they wanted to and they say for some reason he just flared into the middle of the night or yes the new york times writes great fiction of other gentlemen i want to go to other things are we going to show. we do remember that over the last week there was the the republican congressman that was shot by a lunatic a bernie sanders supporter. and he was looking for republicans apparently had on his person after he was killed a list of g.o.p. lawmakers that he wanted to i suppose assassinate here what is this is another indication for me that for me that this is a cultural civil war that is very real actual it was underlined by in the. months years ago all of this violence from the left in the u.s. we have some. verio dangerous and in my opinion that's what we do because we said

we see in media this is anyone but media i see it is this is this is a sarah good for these type of man that shot you know that lunatic he is responsible for hers own actions ok i'm not taking that away but the atmosphere feeds into the media's feeding it and they know what they're doing i mean people are saying ok the man is responsible everyone agrees on that but the media in the united states the liberal left media the m.s.m. it's there fueling this radicalization and they know they're doing you have a shakespeare in the park play in new york which is cool or fine the assassination of trump you have kathy griffin holding a holding a trump head and a. ritual and the media doesn't say anything they call or five stars these actors you have you have hollywood stars calling hollywood to not hire white ok bad as actors you're creating this huge visual it's one of the radicalisation if you. has

been comedian held up ahead of barack obama in this isis like fashion that person would be roundly condemned but that's the double standard that we see today that well again it's you can come in to rule first i lived in the united states in one thousand nine hundred one i remember these calls every day keel that saddam you know so the sport of show of demonizing you know personalizing your enemy it's it's political it's i've seen it on this program before the force through a regime change paradigm that the west and its allies around the world. i want to talk about oliver stone i don't know if in your view what's more is the reception of. stone's work in western media it's really shocking it shows i have to admit that the. western propaganda effort against russia has been largely successful. you know the most interesting part about it is i saw

a lot of interviews with oliver stone when he was promoting the showtime piece and just about everyone that was interviewing him began the interview with one sentence i haven't seen all the interviews out but stephen all to go but to go here very nice to put it of. him it's a very very friendly approach so all the right away you have these these these people that are interviewing oliver stone saying i haven't seen it i don't know what it's about but i don't like the tone you're taking to humanize this and this this president of great power the only interview that was very fair was talking processor interview where he actually just sat back and listen to what oliver stone had to say that's what gave you an appendicitis. it's amazing how the american media for gordon their own warts i mean when they when they now see when they write all all of a story about putting that it's wholly want to kind of humanize in a dictator they forget that for decades they have been saying that what it was

stolen was an exception exhibit was the only unknown hollywood director here all of the lads exactly was an american of course. and he was serious he all of us don't is the only american director that was not influenced by what he knows how to tackle issues so they are lying to themselves you know they have to admit that at some point they were lying even now when they say you know he's a kid because this whole ideology you've been talking about it's like a secular church and now he has sinned and now he must be shown ok you know in france we've got such an experience it was a two three years ago a friend to and he said good interview from god to be with you and yet through couldn't eyes you see we could never we ask him if you want to use there is some question he doesn't want two year. old no but you will be ready because he knows what you talking about a new. at least they could. of the interview. in

france they always will censor but now we're at a out of time but we censor to keep their narrative in line were brought out of time many thanks to my guest here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember. this

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absolutely. i don't see clear how to craft strive to do that anyway i only see that all things good for today are all. you have. for one brief period of time and then you know divorce immediately i think that's a. bad historical moment in the middle east and it is very difficult to predict how things will be called.

upon crushes into muslim worshippers leaving finsbury park mosque in north london killing at least one person and injuring another country a terrorist investigation has been launched. at the start of the u.s. led coalition has shot john a syrian fighter jet in iraq out the whole mission seems it was in retaliation for the office mission force. but also in syria iran say it has launched missile i'll strikes against one of the strands of terrorist positions in comfort.