your launching an r t special report. that's. basically everything that you think you know about civil society have broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be. normalizing. we don't need people who think like this on our planet. this is an incredibly situation a. long

. long time hartman it washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture and we design our way out of a civilizational crisis peter joseph with those like eyes movements as we can and he'll explain how we can do it in just a moment and how can senate republicans possibly defend their health care bill when it's so obviously a ploy simply to pay for tax cuts for the rich by cutting medicaid find out in tonight's rumble with philip stuckey and alex was. as runaway global warming continues to accelerate along with the gap between the rich and poor there's a sense among many that our civilization is in crisis what could be crowds it causing this crisis and how do we move beyond the broken status quo. literally

design a better future those big questions are at the heart of social critic and activist peer josef's new book the new human rights movement reinventing the economy too and oprah is also a filmmaker in the founder of the guys movement he joins us now from our los angeles studios peter peter joseph welcome to the program thank you tom i appreciate you having me great to have you with us first off what kind of questions are you trying to answer in this book. i guess the core activist questions of why the world is the way it is why we've been banging our heads against civil and human rights for many centuries now if not millennia while we end up with forty eight million slaves still in the world today by u.n. standards more slaves in a time in human history and while we're on a collision course with nature which nobody seems to be actively try and you know really detour we have little policy adjustments here and there the kyoto protocol the paris accord but are we really going to see an end to this negative trajectory that we've been seeing on multiple levels so the book attempts to do just that so

why do we have these situations here ok well fair enough. at the heart of it all comes to our economy we have an economic system that was birthed in the mouth rusian period that's the period of time between the neolithic revolution up until the industrial revolution around the eighteenth century so you go back about twelve thousand years ago and we had a kind of geographical determinism if your people are familiar with cultural anthropology it's a very unique field and while we started agrarian society we developed property and ownership we developed capital in the means of production labor specialization regulation and government law enforcement and eventually we gave birth to what we know today as the market system of economics which has been fluid throughout this entire period of time we call capitalism today something separate as though adam smith invented this the in the enlightenment but really it's just another kind of variation on the same theme of a society based upon scarcity based upon competition between parties and groups

based upon exploitation which leads to dominance and oppression and as we found out in the twenty first century in the mid twentieth century starting this trajectory we are now in complete ecological crisis because our entire economy is based on consumption so long story short we have an economic mo that's entirely outdated and i really appreciate your introduction or use mention the word design because at the heart of our progress as a civilization is design it's our engine. it's our ability to do more and more with less and less and less efficiency in design that's the true wealth our strategic use of the environment in order to make an amiable culture that isn't costly a war with itself where it gets what it's need gets what it needs doesn't exist and deprivation and so on and that's what the book attempts to bark through so i walked through the history of economics i walked through i lived through where we are today and why the gentle activist community the libertarian community the false duality is between the state and government need to be moved past there's a great deal of mythology people talk about crony capitalism as though that's kind

of a real thing as that we should focus on the corruption when in truth the whole system is foundationally corrupt it's foundational the opposition against opposition type of structure and consumer base structure those two things put together is a completely caustic reality until we override this system and start to design out all of these problems focusing on amplify what has actually improved our lives we're not going to get very far as a civilization as the trajectories show you talk about cultural anthropology peter far and was probably one of the most brilliant cultural anthropologists you know certainly in my lifetime he's passed away now but his book man's rise to civilization which chronicled liberty for first contact with native american groups back in sixty nine hundred sure points out that with one exception one single exception none of those societies were organized the way that you're describing in fact in all of those societies the people with the greatest. the most highly elevated position had the lowest amount of power and yet and you know the potlatch

society that you gained status by giving things away rather than accumulating absolutely people who acquired more and more and more were viewed as mentally ill and alternately expelled from societies how does either and there's theories about how those evolved but how do we get from here to there or if that's desirable. well i'm glad you brought that up that there are pockets of civilization that have lived differently native american cultures and aboriginal cultures that have basically been weeded out over time unfortunately due the power system that we know as capitalism and i want to just point that out before we move on that it's a great testament to the variability of human nature you know we've been we've been peddling this argument at least mainstream akademi has been peddled this argument that this system that we have now is a representative of us most core state and we compete and we fight and some win some lose and that's completely debunked by examples that you just said not to

mention of adman's and and neuro psychology and other things that that compliment all of that. now in terms of how we actually move forward there are five major transitions that need to occur to make to take us from where we are today to a new system that actually respects itself that doesn't thrive on competition and oppression first we have automation the rise of automation is extremely powerful and it's not something that should be belittled or looked at as some kind of side five fantasy we should look at this for what it really is and that's the alleviation of the core attribute of the civil rights battle going back to gyptian slavery going back to union busters labor has always been the core edifice of oppression and exploitation that that is a. well established phenomenon and with automation we're able to now for move past this we're able to now realize that we're not only more efficient with the application of automation but we can actually alleviate this kora woad that has kept people this group is to problem at hand kept people at odds with each other

the haves and the have nots so labor of human labor to automation is the first step which is again being implied through our society right now if you read modern social study on the advance to technology then you have a property to access system we see this new phenomenon having to do with sharing systems library systems car systems house systems people are beginning to collaboratively share. and that's a very interesting phenomenon and what it implies is that people are less interested in ownership in the more interested in access and in truth if you have an access society where people are getting what they need through access as opposed to property and hoarding you would able to more stuff to be available to more people with less ecological footprint less cars being driven around you know obviously that's not good for the market economy and the market economy assumes that there should be one person owning one of everything that's the highest optimization and repeat purchases create more efficiency and create more egalitarian structure the third thing i'm going to go through these really quickly is your privateering neuroses we have boardroom people sitting together and they're hoarding their their their intellectual property not sharing it and at the root of

course of all of our development is sharing whether it's sharing historically from from the development of science of the course of time or sharing horizontally the fact that you know as we invariably are a civilization that is based upon people eventually sharing through through us me through market dynamics that's what markets actually do the competitive mechanism eventually leads to sharing interestingly enough so that leaves open source so if we can open source our sector's open source all major industries that would be a tremendous step build in the emphasis of a collaborative system incredible step and the fourth one globalization to localization we have globalization the average american meal travels about fourteen hundred miles before it gets to the individual's plate that's that's lunacy we can localize we can use the vaster technology to do things as in the most efficient way possible in that manner and the fifth issue has to do with this old idea that you can't have an efficiency scuse me you can't have

a market do you know you can't have an economy without market dynamics and money being exchanged the idea of you. have to have an economic calculation with this constant preference assuming an exchange and that's no longer feasible we have a digital feedback that can be stretched across the world to know exactly what we have again without that kind of proprietary neuroses where people are hoarding their data. and this is how we can actually create a sustainable civilization when we can look at all the resources look at the behavior and begin to work around this behavior and that would be the fifth and final step in all of this is detailed extensively far beyond what i'm saying right now in the book specifically chapter five which is the solution chapter yeah absolutely peter talk about this i guys movement that you started what what is it or was it and how does it fit into what you're talking about in this book there's like us moment started about ten years ago it's a global sustainability advocacy group it promotes exactly war less what i've just talked about the new human rights movement book takes a different angle to it is always trying to use communication different ways but

it's a natural resource based economy and this is effectively embodiment of that train of thought that i just described where you're moving from a system that's basically the antithesis of sustainability antithesis of preservation the antithesis of collaboration to one that supports those values in a design approach you know i want to give an example of this because when you know you talk about this people their head spin they think you're a marxist and so on and they think that there's going to be some boardroom that sits around and makes all these decisions you can have cad computer aided didn't design computer aided engineering through open source connected to metrics across the world that is gay gene what people are doing and people can actively design anything at their computers and through this collaborative commons that can be established in modern technology you no longer even need corporations because the open source mechanism the ability to actually democratically participate and i emphasize that word democracy it's very hard to hear people talk about democracy

and capitalism in the same sentence because they're completely antithetical but this is the kind of phenomenon of interaction that we're speaking of a very a taunt to miss but yet a unified global consciousness so there's like us movement promotes that we've been doing events for about ten years and we will continue to do events and hopefully grow that train of thought is i often joke that everyone's in the movie whether they know it or not because as the term. zeit geist to find it's a basically the ethic of a species it's the defining characteristics and values of a species and we're all contributing to that with our every every day behavior one way or another but the people should look into this like as movement as well yeah the spirit of the times we have just every seconds peter you were seen rising democratic socialism around the world as a real force how do you interpret that line when you talk about the book it's a great step forward but i don't think it's enough because rarely do people that speak of democratic socialism actually get to the heart of the the root structural problems that i just spoke of a society based explicitly on scarcity and infrastructure that's still oriented

around competition you know we could have cooperatives i'm all for all these different things we could do to revise the financial system complimentary currencies i can cooperate of corporations and so on but until we realize that the system is fundamentally unsustainable it's fundamentally competitive and oppressive it's like a river of tom and we can put up barricades we can put up dams to try to hold the natural flow the natural logic back of what the system is or we can work to change direction and create an entirely new system which is what i really hope for and what i bank on because i don't think the piecemeal things that we're seeing even if successful will really overcome what we're facing right now brilliant peter joseph thanks so much for being with us tonight thank you tom appreciate it great talking coming up as even more republicans lined up against the senate's murderous health care bill how can anyone possibly defend it philip stuckey and alex lawson in tonight's raw.

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lists . well that didn't take long even republicans are now coming to the realization that the senate republican health care bill is terrible what's wrong. with me for the trouble are philip stuckey a political reporter for the daily caller and alex lawson executive director of social security works and thank you both for being here with us tonight thanks

everybody so let's get this thing rolling this afternoon nevada senator dean heller became the fifth republican senator to ugly cli say he does not support the senate health care bill this bill that's currently in front of the state senate. not the answer this is with the answer. i'm announcing today that in this form i will not support it it doesn't protect the bends of medicaid and the most googled the beds the elderly then struggle with mental health issues substance abuse and people with disabilities. this bill is monstrous strips away protections for people with preexisting conditions that lets insurance companies charge older customers five times more than younger customers it defunds planned parenthood cuts under the billions of dollars of medicaid to pay for tax cuts for the rich but about how good things for example how did anyone defend this thing i don't get it in fact the tireless section one hundred one of the bill just to prove that this is really

a tax cut bill is not a health care bill this is the name of it a limitation of limitation on recapture of excess advance payments of premium tax credits that's the day that's the day i'm name of the bill right. so i there's a short name too that's authorized in the opening paragraph which is something like health care reconciliation better health care reconciliation act of twenty whatever so. would you like to try to defend this all of this yes sir i mean i think if you're looking for anything to say this to free you kind of hope in this bill really it's the first step towards an increase in states' rights it's basically definitely don't go the way it's rights was the phrase that they used back in the fifty's to say brown versus board of education was b.s. and and we should be able to keep black people out of our schools but it's also what's been going on with a lot of the states and everything they're trying to basically oppose the please name one state that is saying we want to raise taxes on all our state voters so that we can fund medicaid in our state i mean basically there is no state that is

asking for this right i mean basically these states want to right to be able to choose what it is these people are covered is a valid question because i can name republican governors who are against it that he does i am the destroyer medicaid you blow a massive hole in the state's budget and that's what the bill does i mean they can say whatever it is but you cut a trillion dollars out of medicaid which is the largest provider of long term care in this country that is destroying medicaid they can say it gives the power to the state. or whatever but the states you know sand of all arizona it's not just the expansion it's fundamentally medicaid and the states can't pay for it they there's literally no money available at the state level to pay for this that set of facts let me play devil's advocate if i can if i may. i heard

a fellow on fox news earlier today a republican congressman saying well you know i think it was from florida he said this one affect us because we never expanded medicaid in the first place so this is only going to screw the blue states now i realize there's five red states that are expanded medicare but are medicare other that's a guess i'm sure that's what he said on fossil that's the political equation but it's not true that's i mean like many things i mean it's not the matter is that it doesn't seem millions of people voted on but if president trump voted for republicans and twenty sixteen based on the fact provides will not voted back the brigade i'm quote from donald trump every republican up here is going to cut your social security medicare and medicaid i won't write that's true and trump care that's what he's doing he's medicaid and raids medicare it cuts medicare it takes money from medicare whatever way you say it that's what it does it breaks two of his promises so i guess i guess what do i should do is it make sure that people aren't forced to buy something to make sure that businesses aren't forced to buy

something and it makes sure the federal government doesn't go to fund abortions you have to start to have you have a car do you feel oppressed by the fact you have to buy insurance for your car i do actually yeah. but at least. they're consistent so yes ok moving along. section. is that a topic too donald trump used to talk a big game about taking on big pharma back in january for example he said they were getting away with murder and even suggested that the government should be allowed to negotiate the price of prescription drugs. are they getting away with murder and pharma pharma has a lot of lobbies a lot a lot reus a lot of power and there's very little bidding on drugs with the largest buyer of drugs in the world and yet we don't bid properly and we're going to start bidding when to save billions of dollars over a period of time. now donald trump is singing

a very different tune one much more compliant with the interests of big pharma new york times obtained a copy of a draft of the president's executive order on drug prices and instead of holding the industry accountable it contains several proposals that have long been begged for champion push for a lobbying for by the industry including strengthening the drug makers monopoly power over seas and scaling back a federal program that requires drug companies to give discounts to hospitals and clinics the slots that serve low income patients so doesn't this just go to show that trump is just another oligarchy whose views and goals are for miller are fundamentally aligned with all the other oligarchy in the united states there is a little bit i think a small difference here because he also is super weak so he got rolled by pharma harder than i've seen anyone get rolled by organized money i mean it was such an about it was just one hundred eighty degrees right he's going to allow importation

of drugs from canada and other advanced economies which is in many respects a conservative idea right let's let competition into this let's allow competition out of the vast majority of drugs sold in the united states are not actually manufacture the news is something like eighty percent of course in the drugs that are in canada they're mainly factored in the same factories that are here it's just that americans are the chumps because we pay to develop the drugs it's our money that pays for the and i h for all of the public funding that goes into the developing of the drugs we pay to grant the monopolies and protect the monopolies that allow the drug companies to then charge us again the highest prices in the world we are paying three times and each time we're getting ripped off donald trump with all those rising costs are coming from a surprise your particular thing the reasoning behind this particular but behind this particular is going from one thing it's coming from their monopoly power you

can read it in the wall street journal they're. regulations covering the pharmaceutical industry that makes basically it actually is a good one of those regulations so that they can until you can get want to go back to the days where the guy comes up with the horse and buggy with the car pulls down the back and says i doubt a good parent comes time to care i mean the broader the time i talk about what your thoughts are that you're going to tell people that are they are going to be not in all that stuff the price of carbon is going to go up so if you want the real how about this to go down what about those things what about the fact that it's a government granted monopoly through a patent that allows the pharmaceutical companies to use monopoly power to charge as much as they want it has absolutely nothing to do there has nothing to do with the regulations it has everything to do with monopoly pricing power once you hear the monopoly you want these people to make these they don't make the drugs so you go get a read you look at what that is you look at other didn't they research that i'm telling you your talking points are are going to hit the truth here which is look at the vaccine you want to see how this works the army we the taxpayers developed

the vaccine we paid for it then sanath use their lobbyists to convince the army to give the patent to santa fe a billion dollar french corporation along with one hundred twenty three million dollars of taxpayer money along with the future of billy b. to charge whatever they want that i have no not a market he writes the french that is not ignored it is that our it that is our own is broken all right moving along a new a.c.l. lawsuit accuses washington d.c. police of using the rape as a punishment against the protesters and journalists that they arrested here in town on our inauguration day the details are extremely disturbing according to think progress the lawsuit alleges that an officer ordered the complainants to take their pants off and this was him in front of other people by the way before grabbing their testicles and then inserting a finger in there and says well other officers laughed and the symptomatic of a police culture that more resembles something from a tinpot do. tater shipped in

a democratic republic and why do we worship cops in the united states being a police officer is not even in the top ten most dangerous professions we say to police officers you know thank you for your service taxi drivers die on the job at a higher rate than do police officers would be as the garbage collectors as do most most dangerous profession the united states as fishermen love to see the day when you go to a police officer and say oh your job's not that hard or that dangerous i mean because the fact of the matter is why are our graduate of the georgia police academy i was licensed as a private detective for two years in the state of georgia for miller with police in and yeah i don't you know i'm not saying it's not a tough job but it's nowhere near as tough as being an industrial fish so i mean the fact of the matter is when you're in that situation when it's just you and somebody else and you don't know exactly what's going on i mean there are certain instances i'm not saying that you know this stuff that we're actually talking about today is just absolutely plausible but if you're going to talk about whether or not we should say that cops have a bad have a bad job

a dangerous job and that they should be respected to a certain degree automatic on that call i would definitely not respect police so i think respect of police is something that holds society together but on the other hand police should respect us and you know after we get all you think on a studio and and they shouldn't be cattle hundreds of people just arresting them en masse including journalists who they are arrested just because they were in this area that is against the law and now those people are facing twenty five there was no they were charged with felony twenty five years in prison and i was right smack dab in the middle of the thing and you can't say that those protesters weren't violent i was punched i was beaten i was kicked look and actually the place where i worked i had to replace my phone because someone grabbing on my hand stomped on the ground threw it away all this stuff because there was a lot of violent protests but you were there and correct thing is the police did not arrest you that's true in these in these areas and i understand there were like calls made but it looks like they had. a plane and two cattle an enormous amount of

people hundreds of people arrested en masse including journalists like yourself who were there to cover the story that's not how our policing works and it weakens the respect between the people and the police officers it does not keep the peace deflate if you're talking about what i think you're talking about there is an instance where people were marching on the bashful press building and basically there was a police line that were there and everyone filed some straight into the police line if that's what you're talking about that wasn't ok thank you guys. alex thank you so much stimulus and that's the way it is tonight and don't forget democracy is not a spectator sport out there get active tag you're it.

i do not know if the russian state hacked into john podesta e-mails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims. i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied that the n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the u.s. . the hyperventilating corporate media has once again proved to be an echo for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are

becoming in. stinkers. all the world's a stage and all the news companies merely players but what kind of parties are in t. america play party america offers more are to america personally. many ways the news landscape is just like give you real news big news good actors bad actors and in the end you could never you're. so much parking all worlds all the world's all the world's a stage we are definitely a place. i've

got to go just. as you're watching your. question. i start off today's show talking about our lord and savior amazon. she's been busy. amazon is buying the mecca of organic stores. today announcing it is rolling out something called amazon wardrobe so joining the box party may feel like the online retailer is pretty much taking over your life your t.v. streaming your shopping your reading and even your home have no fair folks it's only taking over your life in your home. amazon has brought breathtaking

a fish and sea to consumerism right. it has also brought breathtaking inefficiency to consumerism amazon is incredibly convenient for all of us and it is the worst thing to happen to us since the bond of play. it's like of the one it play got infected with steve bannon. it came down to. those statements that i just said are true and yet they conflict right there a paradox and it makes your brain want to punch itself in the face and yes a brain could punch itself in the face our eyes mind does it every time chris matthews speaks. in our culture we are now almost incapable of taking multiple ideas into our brains with when those ideas are condensed into one topic or one story for example i recently talked about how trump's withdrawal from the paris climate agreement is both exceedingly awful for humanity and also not that big a deal it's awful it's because awful.