security analyst we also have alex christopher or he is to director and writer for the duran dot com and we have dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst with sputnik international are joining crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and we're going to talk about real news here mark i want to go to syria i heard earlier on sputnik radio with brian becker fascinating interview you called what's going on in syria right now a war of maneuver what do you mean yeah it was important for everyone to understand about east syria right now is that isis is no offensive threat to everyone there folding their crumbling they've been doing this for a long time actually al qaeda is the biggest threat in syria but they're contained in it live for the moment isis is crumbling and it's a race between the syrian government's allies and the u.s. and its proxies to take territory from isis because then this is the new game that everyone the rules of the game as they are right now are is that if you take territory you get to hold at least for the time being right so they're racing along

the roads and the oil fields the these important nodes it's a very spiritually populated desert these roads from baghdad to damascus is very important this once provincial capital darrow's or which has been held by the syrian government defending one hundred thousand citizens for four years against airlift keeps them away airlift keeps them alive this is where the u.s. and its allies have repeatedly served as the air force defacto air force for isis accidentally bombing the syrian military while during or preempting isis attacks on the city you know in looking at what's going with the u.s. involvement here i think it's very confused in my mind what they want to achieve it seems to me that they what the their goal is not to win but they don't want anyone else allow anyone else to win and that's a very shoddy policy if policy at all because that the when you have a country. government the damascus government under assad they're the ones who are

carrying the water they're the ones really leading fighting isis and al qaeda in the united states continues to put barriers in front of the let's not forget that we can at this stage show the syrian aircraft which was. you know being positioned so the so-called this what makes the so what i see is that this is not the only contradiction in u.s. foreign policy i mean look what trump just recently said about. terrorists and now we hear that saudi arabia is awful finance and terror which we all know somehow somehow. you know is already going to terrorism. trump is selling weapons to both of these entities right so i mean if you want to find the want to hear there's only one logic me and we i think we see a rebirth of colonialism just the next six have changed now even before these were

you know biological to develop human species now they're not up to the standards of democracy. or something and the united states and the e.u. are present that. it's over just like before there was this white man's burden and that guide in the lives of european culture and what it will look like there's a lot of. air a burden here but we'll talk about qatar and saudi we're going to say well it's you know in the what's really important and should be paramount for everyone is that it seems to me that there are elements particularly in the cia in the in the intelligence community that want a conflict with russia debating the russians in syria and the russians haven't taken the bait but you know there's the the war of words evolved into this. this maneuvering around in this the possibility of a mistake or missed the calculation group i think everyone is maneuvering to get leverage when they do get to the negotiation table whenever that will be. if that

will be and you can kind of see that it's moving towards a division of syria and the big point here is that the vision of what's going to happen with the kurds because there you have turkey sitting on top of the kurds and we all know that turkey will never let a kurd is to mix or not play or nice nice with anybody is seen as well and will quit the media is also in on it because the narrative is so ridiculous everyone is outraged and upset that syrian jets are flying over solve syrian territory in the us which is a legally there is shooting down syrian jets inside of syria and it's a serious fault. please note i think it's important that it will start for the published and that is just what will come in for the night the states. call on the russian twenty five. to hold all of their american i mean these are real privilege it's like what you just say i think it did more and more dangerous because it's not just a breach of syrian sober and it's a direct relation for russia stipulating absolutely actually when you start

simulating war games it means it's thinkable mark i wouldn't see there is definitely a strong neo con element not only in the blog but the commentary it but within the administration not necessarily for contract with russia what they say about russia is that it's a paper tiger and that it's in action in response to all of the lesions means that putin will pull back what they actually want is conflict with iran this is how they're trying to frame this sell the trump admitted trump and the administration on this they've been doing this since he took office is the silly as stopping iranian influence according to c.n.n. this week you're wrong on not the u.s. not saudi arabia iran is inhibiting the fight against isis so there's there's two particular people there's a cold wet nick who is the director of intel on the national security council and there is derek harvey who is the top middle east advisor on that. security council

this is according to for an article in foreign policy last week now supposedly opposed to them the one who is fighting for the us to stay focused just on fighting isis is actually the secretary of defense matters the chairman of the joint chiefs general brett mcgurk who is the us ambassador to this so-called anti coalition so once just like the obama administration and cia pentagon battles between proxies and syria this is ministration is divided it has no strategy it hasn't decided whether one were deported nation or not it seems to me in this the brookings idea of a few years back is that i'm convinced that once the us creates a military footprint it just gets bigger and they don't believe that's at least the president of the word partition comes into play in given what marx said about iran i think partition is the new plan here. and you are absolutely right that once they get them to something the program has the congo it out and we have seen them to get

all the take from for example you know when the article on massacre took place for a few weeks after their all on has been saying we're not fighting fighting isis now we have the same story with again saying we're not fighting also well the terrorists are on the whole war and it's going to last me before two or three weeks you know just like the law and it's lost that i think for about three or four weeks the problem is that the european union and then either states have become ideological states ideological but i do you want to start with should this which here's a little bit here we still have this. standoff here and the ultimatums are being mentioned deadlines. right look to the end everyone's scurrying around looking for allies in all this. this is the end of the gulf council as we know it if it continues that came out with a list it was to kuwait which passed out to qatar thirteen point. closed down.

all the others and all the other networks cut off ties with iran and the. other a shrill ok ok there's not outrage but ok but mara i don't know mark let me get into this if they don't then what then what and they don't mean they won't really don't they won't but we're not talking about that we're talking about the three pink ponies that the saudi new crown prince wants delivered from conservatives they haven't even thought as far as what happens when they say no they're not there should we be worried about that actually i'm pretty excited about it tell you the truth i'm sitting back and i imagine russian a lot of other countries or watching this. this domestic squabble which is ruining operations in syria because now we've got and we've got saudi backed terrorists killing tory back terrorists which is good it frees the syrian army up plus the gulf cooperation council is growing throwing turkey here because turkey is allowing

itself with qatar this is better than house of cards go i am not very happy about it because whenever you have called i mean we already have a tough call for it in that area if we had you know. versus saudi arabia to saudi arabia versus iran is going to be a mess but look at the exit you would only do that to states it's fair you know the united states it was a favorite if it's not a family affair between russians and ukrainians who have been leaving in the same state for four hundred years that is an international affair but you know i think the solution to it is colonialism because part of colonialism is not just disdain for that colonial ice nation it's when you allow all the local princes fight each other you know since they're separate just anyway let these savages fight each other that's the attitude of the united states the poor weapons bought into qatar at least i wouldn't really know i mean you know they all say it's a really unfair the whole reason for the united states to be in the middle east is to ensure the. free flow of oil here i mean when we're talking about this and you

really say it was a way this is the very center of it no no well for me it's very simple ali it's just not thought out as usual it's not it's not thought out and usually when you in a negotiation process when you make such a bad offer to your counterpart like saudi arabia made to qatar which is absolutely ridiculous maximilian so and so you know and they know so they know qatar cannot accept it even one term on that list you're looking to to bait that person to look at you're looking to escalate you're looking to get something moving towards conflict when you make such a ridiculous. claim on your part is i mean there's a reason for that list which is even ridiculous about this is that could talk or has the largest u.s. military base in the middle east ten thousand troops central command which governs u.s. air power in syria iraq yemen the u.s. cannot allow there to be a saudi on qatari military conflict now a little bit of cool with it no doubt in that scene and they are settling right i

think it's it's forced regime change this is what they want they want and they want to new regime a new family leader in yeah exactly all right gentlemen we're going to take a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on real news state. when else still seems wrong. but all wrong just don't call. me we'll get to stamp out this thing comes after. and it gets read it was betrayed. when something you find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground .

economic development is all about numbers really pleased to report this quarter we are one hundred six point two. but what do we know about the other figures. when i think about the fact that our c.e.o. mike du made over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart a says c.n.n. . with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. it is not just you know a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now where people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly devoid society from

the part of the government tried to do that nicely maybe. it might be making things worse. by saying this is not how complex and work this is our capitalism goes hopelessly disastrously wrong. if. our own so to. solve. it with the. girl is the daughter really what he wants for the people here living.

but politicians do something to. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to be preached. to the right to protest this is what the three of the people are. interested in always a. pleasure to. welcome back to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing real news.

ok mike you said you want to do this yeah a little bit more about syria i want to jump on something that dimitri said you know you talk about the u.s. being drawn entrapped into this is this is something that we've seen repeatedly in the u.s. media narrative not only with the syria conflict although we're seeing it right now in east syria but in every conflict the u.s. according to the atlantic is getting sucked into the war in east syria it's sliding it's it's it's stumbling into it it's getting trapped into it's getting pulled into a quagmire it's not the fact that the us greatest superpower in the world in world history is getting sucked in and it's not the u.s.'s fault that they spent a billion dollars a year just on a cia program to train up and illegally train up an arm and salary by the us

taxpayers jihadi is the overthrow of the syrian. government it's not there bombing syrian government troops in the shooting down their airplanes over syrian territory there are a benevolent giant who always means well but is just a bumbling oaf who gets pulled in by everyone else's little squabbles and as a result just toss the bomb everyone into eternity one of the interesting things about this is that you know the mainstream media if they mention it at all i find it deplorable that they actually don't talk about any news anymore. is that the saudis are really putting a lot at risk here i mean they want to i think we're all in agreement that they want to see some kind of forced regime change in qatar but considering their own domestic situation. their financial situation their budgetary situation their failed war in yemen their failed strategy of the syria i mean i have to wonder what's going on in the house of saud because this is the new crown prince is obviously on hinged. i think he's just stirring up a lot of trouble everywhere you mentioned yemen obviously syria and now you have

this squabble between qatar and saudi arabia which is like two mafia families you have you have literally going to trump is backing up this house of saud one hundred . percent he's backing them up but then every once in a while say something about saudi arabia but then it goes right back hitting qatar what is this what you found mohamed bin so ahmed on russia the quote that was sourced this morning was that he actually said that he could actually take out the russian military in syria in three days so he's going to stop being soft whereas i was from. another source the saudi news agency but that was removed he who i guess it was russian hackers yes why did you say ok he wants to bring the war to a wrong though also exactly let me remind you that saudi arabia spends more on defense than russia saudi arabia spends so much it's just seven billion dollars a year russia sponsor off an old. lady will spin. because you still can't count

with. the way you're going to vote the young grown prince don't forget the qatari in new york is also a young morning he was appointed by his father just i think two years ago so he is also a young going to be mad but the problem is not that there are all the king send you young crown princess the problem is that absolute lack of international legitimacy here i mean saudi arabia had no right to attack him but they that they acted in a could nation with a few arab states and with the say the rain as well everybody's forgotten about all right so it's all russians they didn't you know when people say russia wants to temper to some of these kings and princes well russia is simply taken aback by the fact that no one has spain attention to international law that it will be interesting also here is that you know again mainstream media doesn't want to mention the real. axis here and this please very much into israel's hands we have

all of the arab squabbling each other divide in conquer this works very well and and again i mention the brookings institute there this is their agenda is well and the constantly churning the colder and then that's exactly what's doing that so we have to see who determine the benefits from all of those if i read it is that all those think tanks and all of the all of the media companies are out of the particular funded by qatar that is really in their interest if you want to call king's doha argue with. the tanks that are there funded out of saudi arabia but i think your brought up an excellent point that all of this from saudi arabia from israel is all directed against iran this supposed specter of iranian influence the shield arc of influence that was created by the us knocking off saddam hussein but between what happened in libya what happened with with the muslim brotherhood in egypt what happened it's happening in yemen what's happening in syria this conflict

with gets or. everything that saudi arabia does to curt's hero i read in florence all of our lives agrees is am. i going to be a just really lazy actor if the radio you know someone in the middle east will winchell thing a country like saudi arabia could do to its benefit is do nothing ok well let me play devil's advocate for devil's advocate here for a second from the point of view or israeli security i'm going to pay attention to the fact that when these really bomb briefs attacked syrian tanks a few days ago they did it from an occupied territory from the golan heights despite the fact that the syrian syrians did not destroy a single building in israel did not kill a single person but ok let's talk about it from the position what was already security who has been is radius the more slim the division or more slim brotherhood in gaza you know hamas is a division of the muslim brotherhood in gaza irradiance killed it really just no

there was not a single incident of that kind hezbollah has been resisting is radio. that's true but even in israel you know that the base not lebanon in one thousand nine hundred two it's called israeli vietnam you know it was recognized to be a mistake and to be cruelly ok israel shoots itself in the foot all of the time because of its invasion of lebanon on his blog was created at the rehabilitate their aims to break up fatah created hamas i mean and now they're going to also there's the origins of their own problems ok ok switch gears here guys a certain ukrainian visited the white house it was an unscheduled is that it was called a drop in what was the drop in is it important what's the result. drop the pence and trump actually trump because i probably say dropped into that meeting because it was a really a scheduled meeting between what president to another so the tropicals actually

true. to be honest it was to quote hillary clinton as one big nothing burger i mean was there was a g.'s i have to agree with her yeah. so there wasn't any any significance to it even though pershing got kind of course it's not as if. you use this expression. in made sure he was not going to pick up the bush and co because basically came for money and and support his idea of making changes for him by applying more sanctions that was the aim of his visit and it was trumpet in the ukrainian media it's a huge success you know like poroshenko may have drawn before porch and yes yes yes well put in is going to probably going to meet in july and again there is doubt about that which shows how much pressure that deep state is applying on i think it's an extraordinary situation the new us president contemplate whether or not and

what is extraordinary about this situation here is that with these new call for saying sions against russia and iran first of all the europeans weren't informed of it they were just given a message in the germans in the austrians in other countries in the european union or very very resistant to this because it's going to hurt their own economy they're actually considering. you know what is it it's all worth it to me again the way every week you say that it's ideological and you're absolutely right here but i mean this ideological point of view is just gammage the foreign interests of your allies the american allies in europe it's not doing anything for ukraine because it's all. white noise and me who benefit from any of this here well i mean the anti russia class within the security class within the european bourses you think you know do you just feel good they get paid. to instigate conflicts between russia this this visit with poor or should i go first or there's no. love

lost between porsche and go on trump poor shango actively campaigning for hillary clinton politico has reported on ukrainian interference on behalf of hillary clinton in the us election there's actually far more evidence that ukraine meddled in the us election than there is so true basically at the last minute agreed to this meeting i'm sure ukraine spent millions of dollars on lobbyists to arrange it probably to get the neo cons off his back a little bit but the end result of it only was that the house republican house then at least temporarily blocked a new sanctions bill against iran and against more importantly amendment tacked on against russia and that was the result of poor shank those visit yeah he didn't get anything out of the interesting things that leave the senate did overwhelming i think it was what ninety two overwhelmingly voted for these sanctions here but it did get stopped and least temporarily and in congress and maybe the republicans

actually are do i mean they have the majority you but there still are seem to be very in effect and maybe they're taking heat from the administration saying you put the sanctions on you take away our options that's what diplomacy in politics or all about how being options is this we think this is where this is coming at me and the reason for pausing the sanctions and blocking them was what they described as procedural rights so they didn't pass certain procedures and dancing financing and stuff and now you have you know the blowback from the european union from germany and austria who are saying these things that could hurt their business that's one option that gets immediately cut off with your allies you caused tension the real issue with the senate sanctions bill is constitutional they wanted to put new sanctions on ukraine and prevent the u.s. president from removing them that is an attack on the parag of the executive powers on foreign policy trump would have had to veto this bill if it came across it was because it's an attack on the constitution of the republican response many waking

up that they have to respect a constitutional. the president of the united states and at least in this particular incidents hoping to rewrite this bill yes they did it whether it was a favor of of that ryan did for trump or because i can't really believe that the house actually stepped up to protect the constitution and the executive of the american for at least in my lifetime i think we've mentioned it before there is an attack when the institutional the presidency in the united states and this is part of it you know what they use any of us want to do is that. trump would not be able to lift the sanctions he would have to ask you know that quotas to kindly allowed him to remove these sanctions and talking about the sanctions i think it's a clear situation where russia and the e.u. are losing they have already lost several percent of their g.d.p. according to american a stemmons the united states lost five percent over one goes to jail over there we're going to tell you because you may be saying the sanctions i want to have never be lifted mark my words your brother many thanks to my guest here in moscow

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breaking news. a major legal victory for. the u.s. supreme court partially reinstates travel people from six muslim majority countries . britain's ruling conservative party secures its minority government safety net striking a deal with the northern irish steve which will offer the prime minister's election . we hear from a democratic congressman pushing to stop washington supplying arms to extremist groups in syria. each time we have these wars it has resulted in the strengthening of terrorist.