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hello i'm tom hartman at washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture with neil gorsuch on the supreme court and some more liberal justices looking to retire is america on the

verge of sliding into theocracy alas the reverend barry lynn in just a moment and the trumpet ministration has just put the drinking water for one out of three americans at risk we'll talk about how tonight's lone liberal rumble with horace cooper and charles. donald trump i want to build a wall on the mexican border but under his watch the constitutional wall that is supposed to separate church and state is crumbling and crumbling fast this week the u.s. supreme court took action on three very significant cases that have america's commitment to secular government very very worried for more on those three cases of joe. and now by reverend barry w. led executive director of americans united for separation of church and state reverend lynn welcome back nice to be here great to have you with us so on monday

the court said that if the government is going to pay to resurface the playground of a public school they have to do it for a church school that's right what is wrong with this picture what's wrong with this picture is never before as the united states supreme court said that churches can actually get money from the government and it's worth speed limit really never before not like this because it might or is it you know i mean this is a. you buy that tires the scrap tires you use them on your playground you prove that you spend it and then the government in this case of the state of missouri gives you the money now we don't do things that way there are things that we can pay for in this country and we can pay for public schools we can pay for flag days and fireworks and all kinds of holiday celebrations but we can't pay for religion but now we've started on a very dangerous slope in which we decide that because the church is an able or

unwilling initially unwilling to do something that allegedly is safe for children that is put rubber down in the playgrounds instead of the pea gravel or the other things people like you and i probably fell on many times that if it's a safety matter why of course it has no religious significance and it can be funded and it's even worse because this state was one of thirty nine states that has a very important provision that is not in the federal constitution and that is a guarantee that no money shall ever be used from the public treasury of those states to provide any help to a ministry to a mission to a church this school trinity lutheran church own to the. you'll kohls the school a mission of the church and nevertheless now says what we need it for the safety of

our children question if it's so important to keep children safe and i think it is in a church why didn't they find a way to do this themselves instead of getting into some kind of a lottery program in the state of missouri well it seems to me that this is the proverbial nose under the camel's nose under the edge of the tent you know this absolutely no gorsuch from everything i'm reading and i'd love your take on this. we've had republicans have a long history of and some democrats for that matter of you know waving the flag of religion as a as a political tool to bring the rubes in the true believers and i don't i shouldn't say rubes i mean you know just people who genuinely you know their faith is the center of their life right. but typically they're cynics the people doing this they're politicians who are using religion for political purposes everything i can see about neil gorsuch he's actually a true believer which makes me even more concerned about his position on the

supreme court and some of the things he has said and done up to this point that we might have a real genuine theocratic idealogue on the supreme court i think there's a lot of evidence that he has always been a theological theocrat and one who loves to apply religious tests to any public policy matter and he certainly on the tenth circuit court of appeals had no sympathy for any claims that people were harmed by that they were forced to pay for someone else's religious ideas back that in the time he was on the federal circuit court of appeals there he was a leading proponent of the theory in hobby lobby that even a for profit company can exercise religion and in that case refuse to cover contraceptives for their women employees. he's so he has a long history here he was always a nice fellow i remember you and i talking about of the democrats say well he's

a nice guy and i'm sure he didn't kick as dogs and sure you didn't eat chicken heads but the point is that those aren't the qualifications you have to have a passion for understanding what the constitution is it's not there to protect giving money to people who already have a lot of money it's not there to help religious majority it's here to help people who otherwise don't have political power so of course there's a christian majority in almost every state at least at this moment but. you have to help minorities there's a dizzying level of religious freedom in this country for christians to do pretty much anything they want when it comes to minority religions or nonbelievers they are at a distinct disadvantage and now it looks like they're in an even worse disadvantage on the united states supreme court in this supreme court decision much like the bush v gore decision they said this is not precedent don't extrapolate from this anything else this is you know this is not you know an edifice upon which you can

build you know a whole new theocracy this is just about this school one off now you know when they said that about bush v gore everybody was like oh good we're relieved and then the supreme court has i think quoted him three times in order to acquire cited which you are at least three times. what is what is that what why did they say this is only limited to the case at hand and what does that mean legally and what does that mean practically i suspect there's three different answers well it's in a footnote so that ought to tell you something footnotes generally it's a footnote that even the chief justice didn't agree with and in several other and the footnote says this is only about a playground this is only about the resurfacing of a playground now that's ridiculous supreme court decisions are not just about one tiny little thing what this does is sends a signal and it sends a signal to all kinds of other courts around the country no matter what state

constitutions might say no matter how much they want to preserve the rights of conscience including the pocketbooks of conscientious people who don't want to give money to churches. take a new look at that position because we have decided that in this case. it's ok my justice prior wrote a separate opinion and he said this is like a fire it is like a fire department police protection but it's not it's got nothing there's no similarity to it. police departments are there you know if there's a shooter they're terrorists comes into a school that's an unplanned event nobody thinks that's going to happen a fire burns down a school of course the fire department's going to come but this is a conscious decision do we or do we not change the surface of the playground in which children might fall from the jungle gym there's no connection between this

and justice briar's analogy it was an embarrassingly bad day to pay for it could that footnote have been put there as basically a negotiation i mean i can imagine you know gorsuch or or john roberts saying well you know we want to have this decision and you know elana kagan or bader ginsburg say and way to that that's unconstitutional and they say well what about if we just limit it to the case of and will that get your vote well won't get my vote but i won't get a strong opposition so i don't like that i think that's the kind of deal that he's quite comfortable with and in fact the limit kagan did join. the the decision so i mean if that was his goal he succeeded. him. on monday the court also agreed to hear the cake case this is masterpiece skate shop versus colorado civil rights commission why what is the significance of this

case and why is this one particularly given the gore such is now on the court and you know we've got a five vote majority there why is this so potentially dangerous i think it's very dangerous because this is an idea where a person who calls himself a cake artist cake artist says i have a free speech right to bake a cake or not make a cake if i don't want to make it for a gay couple it wasn't actually for a wedding it was to celebrate a wedding that occurred a couple of days before in a different state but he said my religious beliefs are marriage one man and one woman not too man. now this is the same guy that during depositions actually said he had once bake the cake for a wedding of two dogs i would say very concerned about very very concerned about it i mean it's really and it's an insult and it's one of the reasons that this is very controversial in the world of civil liberties but i think you ought to be able to challenge. not the truth or falsity of

a religious belief but the sincerity of the claim that's being made because frankly in hobby lobby i had grave doubts that they all of a sudden had this deep burning religious conviction against contraceptive hobby lobby had been providing health insurance that they'd keep that paid for contraceptives for some two decades oh absolutely before they suddenly got on this high or if they got out of high horse and then they they also allowed people to engage in retirement programs with the company that included some of the same companies that made the contraceptives and of course they bought a huge amount of stuff from china for their hobby lobby stores and china has a essentially a forced abortion policy which nobody supports in the united states not no one is who is genuinely pro-choice thinks it's ok to say what one kid and that's the limit you're over but so implicitly supporting oh yeah see is rampant there on

steroids finally the. muslim man. you know the supreme court said ok fine you can you can ban some of these people we're going to put a little qualifier in here i believe the qualifier was in the original executive order it wasn't or ordered the court to add that because the court added that they're they're writing a law and i don't know where in the constitution it says that the supreme court i've read article three you know doesn't it doesn't say they could write laws and it's not even it's not clear what's going to happen we filed. a letter along with muslim advocates in the southern poverty law center today insisting that the trump administration explain what its policy was going to be we think that this is going to be a normally hurtful for refugees from these six or seven countries as well as for tourists and this decision doesn't portend well for the future either because frankly if you agree as if you agree as many of these justices will with the right

wing groups that support this ban. then you say just because the president cold it a muslim banner just because the president said when he was running for office you know it's so hard to tell the difference between muslims and terrorists this is the kind of rhetoric that should be used to explain what this ban is all about but there are people i've been debating over the last couple of days is they know anything the president said that's not part of the factual record. barry lynn thanks very much for thank you very much coming up rand paul may have just revealed what republicans are really think about single payer health care and it's nuts more on that in tonight's long low rumble with horace cooper and you're also right after the break.

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both for being with me thank you great to have you back ok during an interview on c.n.n. last night the. tucky senator rand paul accidentally admitted the logic behind single payer health care bigger the insurance pool will lower the costs but when pressed on that point he said single payer leads to a group. socialism out of failure it leads to poverty look at venezuela when it was one of the most rich resource countries in all the world the average person there lost twenty pounds last year not from choice and you said the bigger the group the lower the cost i'm taking is your are now and i was talking about exactly what i was to a voluntary bridge not a not not to log. you guys really think i mean you know out of the thirty six most developed countries in the world thirty five of them have single payer systems canada. virtually every major european country to coast to reka what's wrong with the us well in most of them have people fly from there to here to get our state of

the art health care the fact is that a single payer system is like you a lawyer or an idolater is more americans leave this country for health care than foreigners come to this country for health care then he said that what he said is most of those countries have people he didn't say most of the people in those countries in fact that's the big problem that's why it's the gulag because the few who who can escape come here and get our state of the art benefits it's not everyone that's able to do that but we're not talking about wealthy saudis here we're talking about average americans why do you guys not want average americans to have access well that's the free healthcare wealthy saudis are coming here to get our health care i want everybody to have great health care but the fact is the government straw man the government you're never you're going to drown in my argument let's single payer is cheaper as rand paul pointed out is single payer

let's talk we are spending twice as much as any country in the world let's talk about the story that is all over the london papers about this couple whose. baby was born with some premature serious illnesses and the national health system told them we're going to have to let the child die and they want to know and don't want to come to america you know arguing by anecdote or disorganized nikto they are caught in a gulag when all we do the europe the european supreme court and they said no you cannot take your child to america to get the health care also you're going to harvard university somewhere in the neighborhood of seventeen thousand americans died this year in our country because they lacked access to health care because they didn't have insurance you're going to try and argue a couple one a baby in england that's b.s. the reality is that we're paying around eight a little over eight thousand dollars per person for health for health insurance in the united states and the most expensive other country in the world is around even

to the left i think that they can put something on paper and that creates access not the access is now created england it is run by a conservative government france is run by a conservative country this sweden now has a conservative arm look at the way you want single you hear hey for that health care in those countries you pay for it with time you have to argue for the profits for for for i will always have an raaf and multi millionaires and billionaires are no health insurance i'm sorry because profit is the way innovation comes to every day so your are going to do you know what you're arguing or i want to erode your crap to decide who makes the profit i'm arguing for a doctor and a patient to make that decision to get that's why i argue that i don't care enough to know when i do i have how no if i go i had surgery a couple years ago and i was on a health insurance policy my doctor had to call the insurance company before he could get permission to do the surgery and so you know to your point now you what i

told the governor i said we have a banker in the middle no i don't how long ago they the whole issue of post. worker equivalent and have that person decide whether your life saving care is going to be allowed i would rather have it why first of all that's not how it works and you know that's not all that is how and where i experience there are glad though we've had scan machines in canada per capita than there are. here and a cat scan in canada cost around three hundred eighty dollars a year cost around sixty and you can actually shop there is a city i'm sad to get on the street that i grew up and neither of you have answered my original question we know that single payer is more efficient it's more cost effective and the only people who get hurt by it are the billionaires like stephen j. hemsley who runs up who heads up united health care or the multi-millionaires who run these other these bank stars who throw an enormous amount of money as you know or as you work in this town why they are the second largest lobby they own more

republican politicians than any other industry why don't you take this up with all of the democrats who rammed through this corporate is styled obamacare that rammed through today when uranium get here rammed it through your of oh if you're going to do this it always they tell a year if single pair do hearings if single parents as great as you say how come you don't come on your show every night and talk about how awful obamacare is you know what because you like increment was would much rather have single payer if you are sure that i would much rather have it the republicans would not go i would much rather have i would much rather have the freedom of being able to change jobs and not worry about losing my health insurance i'd much rather have the freedom of being able to go off and start a new business and i'm a huge all i know they're going to target i'm not going to be dead that's when you're you don't have those freedoms go that's why you're here gradually in toronto i realize and then you do and you know you're talking about rape or equals access but look tom where people where innovation is happening and where access is increasing in healthcare in the us is where the free market exists you can go to

a place in charlottesville virginia today and get a surgery that cost twenty percent of what you're going to pay at the nonprofit hospital down the the street. but you probably didn't go to a clinic like that means that the surgery you got a few years ago more than likely cost the whole system more than it should but the free market in healthcare is currently driving down the cost and it's not just in virginia there's places in florida and oklahoma and california fornia there's places all over the country and it's starting to grow the way to ruin that increase the size of government so you're bragging that there's a place that reduces the cost by twenty percent well you know i didn't have i had anybody else i would use it by eighty percent you're only going to pay twenty percent of what you're paying your nonprofit hospital ok great i'm sure our single payer system would love to be able to pay those bills that again has nothing to do with how the other bills are paid you know ever nothing to build makes the rule me private sector let's you and i do that and your idea you know made a rule why don't make the rules your insurance company says no you can't have you

move incrementally to freedom you want a death panels to make rules you have exam or minus a dog in the gutter room indeed ok moving along the trump administration has begun the process of repealing president obama's clean water rule which protected two million miles of streams and twenty million more acres of wetlands from pollution administration's decision potentially threatens drinking water for one hundred seventeen million americans one in three of us in this proof of some things are best not left to the free market to decide the so-called free market the market private to prioritize as profit not health or safety by the way point from the sustainable business council found that eighty percent of small business owners support the clean water rule the national wildlife foundation's found that eighty three percent of hunters and fish fishers support that rule the most important thing from that whole set up was what was not in it and that's the fact that obama's rules were never implemented the courts put a stay on them because they don't know what's going to happen they know exactly how

it's going to affect the armor that he ranters have opposed it most of these rules in forty five c.f.r. eighty five thirty three forty. for most of them were aggregations of previous rules this you know some things were added to it but this was not this is not like some brand new thing because i said to the source are supporting up and complain to the circuit courts and also explain that to why some. baker's dozen of attorney generals across the states across the nation all have come out against whoa this and come out against this regulatory understand oh i don't want to do the theory that what you say is private sector they would like to have state control this they are going to give that flexibility or you have to take an exam to everybody everybody is under it and under president trump's rollback they're still going to have state control he's going back to these twenty fifteen rules that you just said you support he's not going past that he's not going to twenty fourteen two thousand and thirteen two thousand and twelve no twenty fifteen the exactly right the

republican governors and attorney generals who are opposing this are without exception republicans who are taking money from polluting industries period it's so simple ok i can tell you i'd then am wars' out yet rick scott yet other than i am it is there are just medicare fraud in the history of the united states so that political one of those well no he wanted me to normal part of money from polluters florida particularly one of those are the most environmentally conscious states in the country of the states that are run by republicans florida is an example where that just isn't true and the truth is absolutely it is like to set their own rule or florida has a long history of of massive destruction the environment the everglades down there are you kidding the damage that's been done to the everglades particularly since the jet which was here try this again when you democrats ran florida they did all these bad things but that's now rick got the medicare quota yeah and yeah i'm

telling you one hundred percent of the people of these of these governors and a.g.'s who oppose this are taking when and when you told us what you told us when. that one hundred seventeen million people had their have their water quality at stake when that is going to be leant totally not true they aren't going to have these policies rolled back no policy is going to change tomorrow we're going to go back to the twenty fifteen policy which is in place today and what is going to change is that the farmers and ranchers who are standing to lose money or make money are going to actually know well what is going to change in american history is that mining companies and other big polluters if this was yesterday don't go across that are as critical as you are saying it's not but if it was as critical as you say why not in two thousand i mean ten instead of taking over the health care industry why didn't he put into law this rule instead of trying to do it administratively because within late because his term because president obama had seventy four days where he had a veto proof he had seventy four days or so so he had to not think i thousand and

ask you know to wait for about thirty nine thirty or forty really good and consequential he had to wait until two thousand knowing the four to late two thousand and fifteen to do its thing still and he was and it was unable to pass that one hundred six or a scoop or charles our own spirit thank you and that's the way it is and don't forget democracy is not a spectator sport get out there get active tag your. all the feelings of. every the world experience. and you'll get it out the old the old. the old according to

a gesture. welcome to. come along for the raw data. there's a real irony going. to like him responsible. there is always what was always next. to me a little more airing out wholesale surveillance you feel you have all made milo soon to do so since then trump has used the social media while it always on the story goes it's garbage real genuine. would you have for breakfast just quietly to put those for the faces your wife or two dogs may like to kneel and put your biggest fear. little bit on the hay ride with the let's talk a little bit bored you say if you ever. use the best quarterback. expert on the

topic that doesn't belong. now i did did you do to question more. on the news tonight another scandal rocked c.n.n. as a new video shows a network coast calling the controversy on russia nothing and the republicans latest plan to repeal and replace obamacare promises to decimate medicaid which caesar joins us for the discussion tonight and a rogue police officer attacks venezuela's supreme court in a stolen helicopter as political crisis continues to rock that country. reporting tonight from washington d.c. you're watching our team america. good evening friends we start tonight with the latest in the never ending trail of

scandals following c.n.n. today another secretly recorded video surfaced showing an on air c.n.n. host dismissing the substance behind the network's heavy coverage of russia's alleged connection to the us election it's the second undercover video in his many days featuring a c.n.n. employee discussing russia project vera toss founder james o'keefe is behind the videos r.t.c. mon del rosario has the full story tonight it's been one public relations crisis after another this week for c.n.n. first the network retracted a story that tried to draw a connection between a donald trump ally and an investigation into russian funds the story had one anonymous source and in the aftermath three reporters resigned and now this on air host and political commentator van jones caught on project veritas undercover camera saying this what he thinks and speak with the rest of.