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so we've been in north korea to raise the. biggest questions since being accused of political bribery. coming up at today's ground but just because u.k. labor leader is riding high in opinion polls doesn't mean the causes he believes in are not in grave danger one cause he has support for all the period of them and he was caught up in on the phone in show of president nicolas maduro of venezuela talking about the legacy of one of his mentors tony benn who lost interview to this t.v. show. he m.b.m. and more and more. and that's cool been speaking to madeira now under siege from a failure by good to sufficiently diversify the venezuelan economy in the face of arguably imperialist media and imperialist power this week after an onslaught by
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nato nation corporate media this way the supreme court was attacked militarily and the video was posted online we are coalition of military police officers and civil officials in search of balance against this transitory and criminal government we do not belong or have a political partisan tendency c.n.n. put that video up on its website that c.n.n. fake news c.n.n. which spread news of the two thousand and two us backed coup on venezuela in real time as washington sold to regime change in the nation that has the world's greatest known reserves of oil we now know from wiki leaks cables of connections between the venezuelan opposition and climbed stein u.s. agencies but last time around it was people power on the streets that say venezuela from washington and today in london thousands who see themselves as pro-democracy protesters the shuttle to march from the b.b.c. headquarters in london to parliament square the not one day more demonstration.
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organized by the people's assembly is calling for the immediate resignation of the prime minister to resume joining me is the people's assemblies national secretary sam fab and sound tell me about today's world today's going to be a celebration of the campaign of what would be achieved in the campaign of though we lost the campaign in different ways but the narrative is there. to reason they won the election she she actually lost there and of those germy lost the election he actually won it you know to me now i think today's demonstration will be a celebration of that and it will be a carnival of resistance we've got music we've got d.j.'s we've got some celebs coming down we're going to be a party atmosphere as well as a very political one we called this demonstration just after the general election because the reason may quite arrogant i think and the rest of the conservative party code the election expecting to get an absolute landslide to reason may said during the election campaign if she loses six seats then jeremy coleman will be prime minister well we're saying that she does more than sixty she's lost the trust of the country that we think we think that the result represents a rejection of of
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a stereotype represents a rejection of further cuts and privatisation in the whole tory policy which obviously became more and more important despite huge bias in her favor in terms of the mainstream media and it's really in my eyes why why the b.b.c. does the march today start at the b.b.c. well we're sending b.b.c. because during the election campaign we felt that there was enormous media bias in . favor not just from the b.b.c. although clearly there's been problems with the b.b.c.'s reporting from you know. attacking jeremy called in. by the regulator for bias but she will be seen as denying any allegations at least not just the b.b.c. but you know you see every single one of the major newspapers were attacking jeremy accusing him of being a terrorist sympathizer yet to reason may then goes and gets in bed with the u.p.a. now you know we're seeing the point of the b.b. . b.b.c.'s symbolic place of the british media and it's not just an attack on the
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b.b.c. but the whole institution throwing their weight behind the conservatives and still they failed to gain a mature in this is to me that people are rejecting the ideas that. the media and that the conservatives are putting forward there now they need to step aside they need to resign immediately what is the place of democracy in the streets now that we know that obviously in parliament you can buy off m.p.'s hundred million pounds m.p. for his major remain about but i think it's very very important that we continue to mobilize in the streets i think the streets are played a very big influence over politics over the last ten years not that their level tell you that by the way but you know you have to look at the huge end to stere movement that's taken place the big demonstrations protests strikes from the junior doctors from public sector workers and others these are all things that have had a very big impact on public opinion on the way that the government is able to
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implement cuts in privatization in these ways and i think now more than ever they are weak they are incredibly incredibly weak and the way that our message to people has to be that if you want to impact. the way the direction of the country now is the best chance that we have on the street to continue mobilize is not just about voting in an election every four years disappoint a parliament if you can buy off votes around really about well i mean i think each i mean it's an incredible thing that you know we've got this very right wing reactionary regressive. party. to propping up the conservative party is no absolute disgrace i think while i think this opens a whole can of worms i think is now going to be demanding more money i think to demand more money and i think that's a good thing actually i don't i'm not opposed to more money being put into different places but i think we now need to think where is this money going can we the idea that there's no money. you know to reason may famously said during the
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election campaign there's no magic money tree well she's found it she's found it for the d.p. now let's find it for the n.h. find it for education it's find it for all the things that people need and secure jobs for everybody that's the kind of things that we're going to be demanding today and what about any possible return to violence as being risk by the tourism a do you feel do you plan to deal i but i think it's a very very worrying situation i mean it does threaten the good friday agreement i think it's the fact that they're going they're going into partnership with the d.p. i think it's if i was a catholic in northern ireland i'd be very very scared and worried about this situation and i think you know they need to take responsibility for this and really i think you know we need to be thinking how do we unite people not divide them and i think it's a very very divisive move getting into bed with a party that not only has historically links to terrorism in northern ireland but whose opinions about gay rights is incredibly backwards about abortions and women's
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rights you know all of these kind of things i think is a very very worrying situation that these people who are now propping up our government so thank you. well we just heard about the anti tory not one day more demonstration but as northern ireland's orange order prepares to march today ahead of the twelfth of july battle of the war and celebrations has to raise amaze deal with you people the good friday agreement and peace process into jeopardy joining me is belfast former lord mayor and the shadow treasury spokesman it's and samuelson m.p. for east and sally thanks for coming out you've got one hundred million quid each from tourism a could you got more money well i don't i mean the negotiations were going in negotiations were tough on the government you that our leverage was fairly limited because we would not be supporting a labor government led by jeremy carbon they knew that there wasn't really an alternative of part i didn't need to give you any kal-l. to all i think we're never going to vote against terrorism and i think that first of all there's a. recognition at westminster you don't get support for nothing we weren't elected
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as conservatives were elected the city you paid so if the government wish to have our support of course was going to be a price to pay for that we'll give you a quote from lord m.p. former leader of the ulster unionist party the mainstream unionist party as it were before your party which previously had to do paramilitaries game political success he said unionists was never create the impression that i believe cash based seems to be calling it begging bowl unionism well of course don't forget the conservative party is a unionist party and we support the union the conservative party wants to leave the e.u. and leave the on the best possible terms we want to leave the the conservative party is committed to the defense of the realm and building up the armed forces in a cabin on the speech that you're given to do on the i see this as being a mains of restoring some of the broken relationships which there are and northern are at the moment in those arrays and there is no on the record because of the deals saying that privileged will be the violence done by partisans to catholics over what. catholics do to british security well you know that's not what she has
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said what's what she has said is that this is a day that first of all gives us an economic package which will impact on the lives of all of the people in northern ireland whether they voted for my party or whether they didn't and i think that secondly where she and feehan have tried to tear dine in the park sharing structures in northern ireland i think a little niehaus second thoughts about that because of course the alternative of not governing ourselves as to how of northern governed by a government at westminster which has the u.p.a. influence which is kind of heading heading that way but i sure as the both you engine faint your brain presumed we will be going the catch is you intimated a soft border after bricks of between north and south well that's an objective which not only the u.k. government has said of seeking the northern of the family has said the seeking the government and the republic of ireland has said it wants to achieve and data this being top of the agenda. for the you negotiate hers as well so this idea and again
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this was a convenient argument for sion feehan to make for the assembly elections that suddenly there is going to be barbed wire along the border and help to motivate their troops and get the might etc they know what's nonsense the reality is that it's nonsense that we have not such a border since one thousand and forty all odds and we will not be returning to such a border and indeed all of the people involved in the goosey ations have said that they will find a way round up but they will not be any big investigations into security forces british security forces killing catholic civilian well what we have said is that we want to qualify for those who served in the armed forces in northern ireland with the kind of treatment was to be given a terrorist with don't forget as a result of the good friday agreement terrorists not have letters from twenty blair which allow them to come back into northern ireland and not be prosecuted they hope the republicans they really did serve their time in fact and many of them the
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reason why they needed the letters was because they never served their time they were never taken to court because they left the jurisdiction and they have not been given the stakes and we are saying that if you cannot have a situation where terrorists were given the stakes and get the process of law pursues those people who were engaged in defending the country from terrorism even when they're used to torture well that any any of those allegations have already been investigated this is not a bite whether people use torture or whatever it is that. probably got us here probably got in the city of course there are terrorist weighing use torture murder and discriminate the killings of civilians and in fact strapping catholics and to cars and then sending them to pull army post and blowing them up along with their car and the terrorists who did that were granted immunity and it's not just us who are arguing this are the. many people well even before that they did many
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conservative m.p.'s were supporting us and ensuring that there was some statute of limitations which prevented investigations into those kinds of incidents prior to two thousand just. immunity for people who have engaged in terrorist activity so we will send thank you and we'll get you. in an upcoming episode of going underground after the break. these of corporate power and the full spectrum dominance of what we eat by private enterprise and lobbying and tourism if. he's trying to turn britain to defend his way of life all this is. going on to grow.
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welcome back it didn't take too long for the ad homonym attacks. at this week's prime minister's questions the first since the british general election is the prime minister aware of the current crisis in venezuela and is this an example of how an experiment in this revolution can go horribly wrong no mention of attempted cia backed coups a washington death squad. i know i have to say smiling a girlfriend that i think he's made an extremely important point and i think the leader of the opposition has. had to say indeed i have to say sometimes when we're talking about trade deals in the future i think the leader of the opposition is his shadow chancellor i think the only good trade deals with venezuela cuba north korea as for the leader of the opposition he wanted on says about the grunfeld tragedy which is now being investigated by a judge who ruled it was ok. to allegedly socially cleanse and like him to raise
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i'm a appeared to want to ask questions instead of months of them the question is why is it that despite that we have seen in local authority area after local authority area materials being put up here not to comply with those building regulations and that is what we need to get to the bottom of why is it that far inspections that local authority inspections appear to have missed this essential issue maybe theresa may forgot that it's prime minister's questions not jeremy corbin's questions i think i can help the prime minister with this issue when you cut low growth or to expenditure by forty two you end up with fewer building control inspectors. it's pretty bad when people shout for somebody to be sitting right by the speaker's chair and shouting displays let's say a lack of wisdom tories will now screaming shame shame at corbin but he continued i
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was simply making the point which seems you've upset a lot of members opposite that when you cut local authority budgets by forty percent we all buy a price in public so you are inspectors if you are building controlled inspectors if you are planning inspectors we all pay a price those cuts the fire service have meant there are eleven thousand fewer firefighters. the public sector pay is heating recruitment and retention right across the public sector what the tragedy of brutal towers expose is the disastrous effects of a stereotype but as well as preparing for the mud doctor says you're not to vote down modest pay rises for firefighters or some tories wanted to talk about was corbin at the world's largest music festival glastonbury i was deeply alarmed to hear the reported announcement made by the leader of the opposition last glastonbury festival. but if in power would abandon trident. to the boy
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the security and safety of our country with my writing for the promise that i agree with me that it is only her government and the conservative party that provide the safety and security of our great country indeed corbin denies this about the tried a nuclear weapon system designed to kill millions around the world but to resume who is on the record for saying she would not hesitate from pressing a button to kill hundreds of thousands of men women and children isn't convinced it appears he says one thing to the many another thing to fear a reference to corbin quoting socialist lines from the revolutionary poet shelley at glastonbury something his backbench blairites would never have done so what's happened to corbin's parliamentary labor enemies anyway well his new liberal rachel reeves in the political wilderness raising the topic of loneliness loneliness is bad for your health smoking fifteen cigarettes a day well the prime minister joined with the honorable member of the south ripple
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mysel it encouraging members from across the house to attend the john cox loneliness commission event in speaker's house immediately ask the prime minister's questions today to find out what all of us can do in all communities to tackle this blight on all sides here that's andy corbin pro austerity blairite rachel reeves talking about loneliness and a name checking murdered u.k. labor m.p. jo cox's posthumous charity the joe cox foundation gives money to al qaeda linked white helmets in syria something the jeremy corbyn leader of the labor party has yet to acknowledge let alone this week's massive orders or collateral damage by the us coalition. twenty four hours since the national institute for health and care excellence released a report on the dangers of air pollution levels in the u.k. have green industries become a sigh of relief or last gust for control is renewable energy to organic food becomes a new lip. realized in the fight for corporate dominance joining me now is professor
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of business history at the harvard business school jeffrey jones author of profits and sustainability a history of green on jupiter ship as donald trump wraps up his energy week to promote fossil fuels jeffrey welcome to going underground so within hours of dollar jump saying he was getting out of the paris climate deal he began to be attacked by big business leaders some of them environmental there was a little north why should business leaders have more say than workers in the midwest of america about how multinational businesses operate in their sustainability or lot of american big businesses now have a vested interest in sustainable or green industries jesus the largest producer of renewable energy in the united states one of the largest in the world exxon is under pressure from its own investors to explain their sustainability policies so it's a matter that they have thought
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a lot about that all multinational so they know the rest of the world is thinking about it and they're very upset if the trump policies lead to china taking the lead in green industries rather than themselves. as president's been commented on when it comes to increasing sophistication of renewable technologies your book begins with a guy called joy in re cook who coined the term health food store tell me about sustainable food in its origins or i trace the origins of green entrepreneurship back to the nineteenth century and to the food industry when a set of people including this cook guy in britain came to the conclusion that putting chemical fertilizers on the ground was causing a problem it was causing a problem to the soil. and it was a causing a potential problem to people's health so he pioneers the entire concept of a health food shop where the food was grown without chemical fertilisers because
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you mention exon when it comes to fossil fuels a company like axel maybe now know they're involved in renewables similarly maybe now food companies big food companies are involved in organic food. now they just taking over the join in re cooks of this world they have lobbyists on k. street in washington d.c. persuading politicians against reforms on climate regulations don't they or and food companies they have lobbyists telling them please we don't want food labeling i think grand mills i was reading a book once. takeover organic food companies are the same spends millions of dollars trying to fight food labeling. i mean the current state of what i call corporate in environmental ism is is a very contested one large corporations understand that there's a segment of consumers who are green so they're buying those brands.
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what they're not doing is greening their whole corporation and as i try to say in this book because it's really a crisis of legitimacy there's an apparent spread of greenness among business but when you look at what these large corporations do they are both polluters and angriness at the same time and what does one make of this one make it that does it make it difficult to have a good scared of it which is his company's is that one reason why it makes it very difficult to write a book like this i was looking and that's what newman should've called you'll be graeme multinational company or. very little attacking. the big world the initials for exactly what you just. are the first point harvard business school does not take sponsorship form companies so i'm pleased to say. although we have corporate donors. giving leaders of the
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faculty under no pressure what they what they write. at at all so that's that's quite an important point and we actually have a very large environmental group which is to print the of criticism of a lot corporations give away as a lot in this book i was primarily interested in this book in entrepreneurs who were motivated by include terms saving the planet. so that is the prime focus so large corporations only come in at the end and they come in and in a section when i'm talking about everyone you talk about i'm talking about greenwashing and i'm talking precisely about this apparent contradiction between suddenly every business is green and yet we know the planetary fundamentals are continuing to deteriorate how corrupt the companies in your book that i mean the famous stories
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about general motors bing los angeles city council to destroy its public transport infrastructure people book. what about the conspiracies and corruption of these companies to deliberately change political to make. it even further dream that it will be in the real issues i think a more sort of game playing with the with the rules pertaining to be green when we know green and the whole problem of certificate lends itself to that kind of world because companies can get them certified building certified as green even if they're in the middle of the deserts companies can be top ranked as sustainable companies with very sort of peculiar metrics and very serious problem because it means people don't know what green or sustainable is now in a world where everything appears green or sustainable and yet we know at the back of our minds that very little very little is so are you saying largely that of the
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i mean everyone recognizes the. increasing monopolization of different industries which is that the big food companies just take over all the smaller organic food producers that if they organize they do grima just a few companies control of food chain all cosmetically as well all these different things so maybe in one big rush suddenly business will become sustainable one of the things coming out of my book is that sustainability is not easy it's very costly. can a chief executive a public own company now go to his board and say i want to dramatically. make all our processes more sustainable no they just lobby for tax relief from politicians on green and says it will induce you to do what they did under the obama administration it was i mean i mean it's interesting that enron was the big. wind energy company in the united states and its business was bought by g.e.
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which is famous for its tax planning i think we could call it other tax avoidance strategies. and so i mean and of course some say that all these companies that do mention in the book the big companies are anyway enjoyed so much tax relief and so much. secret government funding whether it be or in the coming out of publicly funded universities or whatever that actually this is really about public warning not about the private or drip or looters singlehandedly running their organic food shops i think there's a real case that public corporations publicly quote corporations have limited ability to green operations if you look at some truly sustainable companies like sports where company or at doorway to patagonia where he. explicitly said he's not going to go public because if he went public. what he's trying to achieve couldn't couldn't and so it's capitalism at fault in effect
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because if he doesn't go because they're going to get the message as when to make a move a massive company is if it's a problem here is got i think the cap i wouldn't say capitalism capitalist it's the capital capital markets the public markets and at the moment we. i don't have a system that. built sustainability into how the capital markets work or how to direct a corporation to. if sustainability was put into the concept of. for example then directors would be incentivized to take it a lot more seriously but it's not. for shareholders and shareholder value to maximize that and they risk being sued suddenly in the united states if they dramatically. in order to invest in more sustainable. jeffrey jones thank you
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and that's it for the show will. go. on strong calling more and. we're going to be your hopes for the two thousand. we're going to be visiting the most cities are. going to be great. so i think pretty much every topic the fans need to know about so. it's going to be . a failure situation. the private company where sixty or seventy billion dollars.
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left including the c.e.o. who are going to parachute in possibly. according to c.s. . she's already a billionaire. for her regardless of where the company says she's and others a lot of people speculate that the underlying core business model of the labor is unsustainable and this company's going to go the way of enron as multi billion dollars. seemed wrong. just don't call. me. yet to shape our day to come out ahead and engage with equals betrayal.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. the . thousands are protesting in london to denounce the u.k.'s coalition government and demand prime minister to resign may step down and the rally cry one day. the gap is widening between so many so many people believe the people in the crease in the mortgage should be biopsied to be in the city. basically pushed to the limits by the refugee crisis with thousands of pro and anti migrant activists protesting across the country. germany surely it's going to be germany. when the twenty seven think of federations go out and join us in a few minutes if we continue the intellectual.
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