the. china's leadership jinping is in moscow for a two day official visit it comes amid beijing strange relations with washington which it's accused of military provocation and the south china sea. we have an exclusive report from the italian port of where mike winds are being forced to work the local mafia gangs that's as the country is under quote enormous pressure over the my good prices. and demand i'm a clown announced its plans to slash the size of france's parliament by a third and a bit to make it more effective at passing new laws. allowing

thank you for joining us you're watching r.t. international with me making arrant. china's leadership is in moscow for a two day official visit he's met with glad to be a putin in the kremlin and that's the third encounter this year the leaders then headed for an informal dinner before tomorrow's busy schedule of talks on the economy and bilateral relations ten billion dollars worth of deals are on the table and the chinese president will not sleeve empty handed he will be decorated with russia's highest medal with more on what's on the agenda his mark gasnier. will also be more pressing juhu political matters including north korea and its alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons but also south korea and america's plans that they should on the peninsula elements of its. missile shield which neither russia nor

china like very much they say that the system conceived far too much into russian and into chinese territory beings visit to russia may also be a message china and the united states increasingly at odds that there was a brief spell where the two enjoyed good relations they made deals met talked and even ate chocolate cakes together the honeymoon says the press is over she jim peeing called donald trump today to tell him that the relations between the united states and china will be worsening there were a number of negative factors chinese warships and jets were recently sent out to confront an american warship that china says got too close to its territory we're talking about disputed islands in the south china sea which china claims as its own but the united states says that it's free to move around in the area according to

international law also the united states threatening chinese banks with sanctions because of their dealings with with north korea the united states labeling china as one of the worst human trafficking offenders in the world and what really put the nail in the coffin was donald trump announcing one point four billion dollars worth of deals with taiwan which china views as a renegade province so certainly no telling how far things will escalate and there's no predicting donald trump political analyst says if chang thinks that the recent turbulence in u.s. china relations is due to beijing's will look tense to bow to washington's pressure . there are obviously problems. especially over the north korean issue but donald trump ministration seems to be exerting pressure on china to do

a lot. push reed in north korea to give up its nuclear weapons program but china feels that it is no position to do so of course or being injured as such gestures may bring about an escalation of tension. and exact the mutual distrust between the two countries hopefully they understand the human portions of our voiding such gestures beading to serious military conflicts and confrontations. has promised to help italy deal with the overwhelming influx of migrants to the country arriving from africa brussels also agreed to boost funding for libya's coast guard however no direct reference was made to italy's appeal for the e.u. to take some pressure off by allowing rescue boats with migrants to dock in the ports of other member states meanwhile very is getting angry over the lack of

support from the e.u. and us threatens to close its ports to rescue ships the interior minister claims the country is under huge pressure as the country has taken in hundreds of thousands of people who were crossed imitate mediterranean from africa according to the un always eighty four thousand people have arrived in italian ports since the start of this year and some estimates predict the number will jump to two hundred twenty thousand by the end of twenty seventeen well it's really calls on neighbors to help france's even use drones and dogs to hunt down those trying to slip across the border between the countries well i spoke with italian journalist marcelo furrer who says if the e.u. does nothing to help italy through the migrant crisis the political situation in the reef. it could take a turn for the what. the european union is keep saying we want to have peter lee we know understand that it that he is facing a big crises but so far every measure has been a effective and there is

a sort of double talk for example this morning to the newspaper said that there were there is an agreement between eataly germany and france to try to have a new position in europe and what we have heard there by the very many studies something thought to be different and what mr mccrone person mccrone he's saying is that he will not alow economic migrants to come in france and fact is is closing the border between eataly and france in the southern part of france so the big question is a war what it what it will what they will do what your opinion a will do to have p.t.s.d. and if you don't do anything the also the political situation reached to be very. out of control which means that the cutting government can can become very unpopular. where the migrant crisis gripping it's a reports are emerging that mafia gangs have been increasing their influence and

this is really an important polo by taking advantage of refugees. traveled through the ports and used a hidden camera in some areas to find out exactly what's happening. just behind me is where the famous sicilian ballad takes place. every day and while in the day it's a hot spot for tourists in fact they're recommended to go and see the market is one of the things to do here when you're on the island of sicily but at night the market turns into something completely different and instead of selling fresh produce and fish. on the streets. drugs and the majority of the people selling drugs. africa that's what we've been told. we filmed in secret with him on the streets.

because. it's. specific. to sicily has a long history of crime mainly perpetrated by the mafia what's happening now is that it's teaming up with migrants to kerri-anne criminal activities the main gang is black acts which is forcing new migrants to work for them. for. my four.

use. don't refuse to join black acts and its activities. to do so. selling drugs is not the only way many my current forced to make money if we just paid down this main street here literally just off this main street is where many of the girls to keep the line to you in origin selling their bodies night after night there have been many investigations into the profitable surrounding drugs on the island as well as that of child prostitution but regardless of what the italian authorities do nothing seems to be able to stamp

it out it's one of the reasons is because there is a constant source of migrants who are willing to take the place of anybody removed from the streets for prostitution selling drugs this is a problem that seems to have no solution even ski r.t. system. and the migrant issue has come to prominence again in austria where a teen is in man is suspected of having killed an elderly couple allegedly motivated by his hatred of the country's far right freedom party piece or all of the reports. eighty five year old woman and an eighty seven year old man were killed in their own home there was that of the temp made to burn their bodies and burn the house down or police have confirmed that a fifty four year old man who came originally from tunisia to austria back in one thousand eight hundred nine is in custody he was well known to the couple in

question we understand he delivered food to them a number of times a week that they'd helped him out with money in the past that's also. the reason that he. he's the main suspect in having carried out this this attack and why he turned himself into police was that he believed the couple that were linked to the freedom party of austria the far right until immigrant party we've also heard from the austrian chancellor christine care who said this well he's condemned this attack in the slaying of these two elderly people such crimes destroy trust in the strength of our society and should be condemned when people are killed because of their real or perceived proximity to any party as happened in loons everyone needs to speak out but if it turns out that they perceived political affiliation was the reasoning behind these killings well that could have huge ramifications through austrian politics but also through politics throughout the why do you however

multiculturalism experts to say our leverage says the suspects ethnicity shouldn't be taken into consideration in this sort of attack was wrong the fact that the man was tunisian to me is almost barely. a detail i mean the man who's been living there since one thousand nine hundred nine i would say he's equally austrian as he is tunisian so to me in am again the fact. that. he would have committed this act is absolutely absurd. the party the suspect says the couple had links to joined an anti brussels anti mike when a faction in the e.u. parliament in two thousand and fifteen is known for a number of controversial policies including calls for their own immigration and the ban on muslim symbols similar to the one on the nazi swastika in austria we spoke with a member of the freedom party of austria who told as its political stance it should not change in light of what's happened. well i think you could assume too much of

all mainstream media there you get a lot of misinformation especially about all politics and they give free weight to i would say hate speech they speak out against aids speech but they give a lot of hate speech against policies that are deemed to be politically incorrect like our party and if you consume the media's without criticizing their content and was all thinking twice you may be used to believe that if true is guilty for everything that happens to you what i have to add of course is that even the violence is threatening it calmed leads to us or other people abandoning their political positions if we think if we deem it necessary to not to allow certain symbols of radical islam suits and symbols of and to democratic feeling along we have to stick to this position irrelevant what happened was some met my guy you guys do. publish an unconfirmed story about the russians doing something

back to vanish in a correction if it turns out to be false that's the patent beings that buy some mainstream media giants the associated press issuing full search corrections recently if you're trying to explain. if only it were a fact that russia hacked the u.s. elections that would make some journalist lives so much easier here's something recent from the new york times the american intelligence community has said they were seen interference is a fact not an opinion get it fact ok but you still have to explain why something's a fact they chose this report with its many high degree of confidence tags attention judgments that don't imply that the assessment is a fact while the author of this and why tom's article got too carried away scroll down correction these system was not approved by all seventeen organizations in the american intelligence community though that's what millions of new york times

readers were told in the original article at least it got caught with all those pesky fact checkers about life ain't that easy yet in school they taught me about the world's most respected news organizations like the n.y. times associated press but what do i see now on the a.p.'s website that very same clarification correction for four stories over a period of three months you bet that correction didn't reach as many people a piece of describers as the original four wires last week we got a glimpse into how stories with the hash tag russia and trump are done on c.n.n. live on c.n.n. constantly russia the source of. this is ratings but honestly. it's just like. most of the you know we don't know.

john. proved this video was leaked after another c.n.n. online piece about trump's russia ties trump's associate has met a c.e.o. of a russian investment fund that headline would make the internet go. but guess what it turned out to be false the article was were cracked it completely no corrections had three c.n.n. staff members reside well you can only learn from your mistakes just don't be so shy owning up to what. the associated press news agency recently issued clarification's regarding several stories it published on russia's the pows that meddling in the us elections well for them to clarify why so many mistakes have been made in their coverage but so far i've had no response from a cia analyst and whistleblower john kerry says russia is the media's favorite bogeyman right now for a variety of reasons first of all we have this this untenable twenty four hour news

cycle where every news network every newspaper every news website feels compelled to produce something new constantly over the course of twenty four hours so the competition is vicious secondly i think that most of the news outlets in the united states have taken a political position whether it's pro trump or anti trump and the russia story fits into a lot of those narratives now i for one have said from the very beginning of this that if we're going to accuse the russian government took battling in our internal affairs we ought to be able to present proof to the american people that proof has not been forthcoming. but for a lot of people here in the united states they don't really need the proof they just need the new york times and the new york times these associated press frequently rely on one unconfirmed source before they run with the story. the french president among the crown wants to slash the size of france's parliament

by a third he announced the plan during an address to the said that the international assembly and. i thought a moment to a smaller parliament but with stronger means is a parliament where work becomes more fluid or parliamentarian this can surround themselves with a more better trained staff a parliament that works better that is why i propose to reduce by a third of the members of the three constitutional assemblies i'm convinced that this measure will have a positive impact on the general quality of parliamentary work. what do you see in the size of the parliament wasn't the only proposal mccrum made the issue of terrorism was also touched upon he suggested lifting the state of emergency by the autumn and bringing in tougher anti terror measures on top of that mccrone wants to loosen labor laws in a bid to boost jobs but we've discussed the plans with a number of experts the different view of first of all it will obviously streamline

i mean around you must know that francis five times smaller than the us but has more members of parliament there are in the us congress and i think this is been a very our subject a lot of people been talking about so it will downsize the flow of communication to get last through and also i think you're showing a very strong giving a strong message to france saying that the french state is going to downsize globally i mean that's the setting something really important if you want to show up to the french public you can see how the this piece of the macro has been elected without having your made in politics in their lives because it's a very new party which has been elected with the help of the big media in france you know there in france nine billion in. the media so. there are these m.p.'s are only as employees of news from across who is also an employee of. the media. and so i think so. what he

leaks chief julian a star and his claim to liberals in the us a liberal no more has published a collection of clips and articles all calling for his killing and he's probably boyko delve deeper into the story billion a scientist clearly done a bit of work collaborating this list of old social media posts of so-called liberals calling for his assassination he's retreated dozens of old tweets and links to articles calling for his death and among the ways in which they call for his death there are suggestions to hang him on. to kill him via a drone attack and what's interesting is this list features both ordinary people who say all sorts of stuff on twitter all the time but also it features journalists from notable publications big media outlets and political activists take a listen to what julian a son she had to say about all of this. what can i say liberals and

liberals the fall in it's a battle with the worst elements of state. and censorship and one of the oldest links he provides that is to an opinion piece in the washington times dating back to two thousand and ten the author in that article argues that the wiki leaks publication of diplomatic cables which had just taken place that endangered the lives of u.s. citizens and undermined the war on terror from the more recent stories that he's linked to well there's an opinion piece written on a site called mediate don't call him which suggests droning songs along with the rest of london's ecuadorian embassy sort of as collateral so according to julian assange is most of these threats that he's kind of alluding to a coming from media outlets and individuals that represent the left wing liberal values even though traditionally sort of hatred and vitriol and threats towards the

sun have come from the right wing especially in the u.s. take a listen. to the cyber terrorist network time the security of sabotage espionage against humanity. this is pretty simple we got special ops forces i mean the dead man can't leaks that this guy just traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states got ought to be and i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm up for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking at right now the justice department is taking a look at that i would argue that it's closer to be hard to terrorists and then the pentagon papers songes main point is that the liberals are just like that they're not as liberal minded as you might think and he's obviously carried out some meticulous research. delved into the twists in the news media. in order to display these double standards as he sees them and he's had plenty of time

to do this he's cooped up in london's ecuadorian embassy he's into his sixth year now and given the legal stalemate that he's in it doesn't look like he's going to be leaving that embassy any time soon. to football now as germany proved once again to be the kings of the pitch winning the two thousand and seventeen confederations cup artie's neil harvey and award winning sports broadcaster stan collymore have been covering the championship for us. another beautiful sunny day here in st petersburg welcome to our tease continued coverage of the twenty seventeen confederations cup which after sixteen matches in sixteen days saw germany lifting the trophy courtesy of a one zero win over chile now i know you're thinking where has stan collymore gone

he was here throughout the competition with me he has now sadly i know together our departed back doing that but before he went he took time for a chat with me about his russian twenty seventeen experience going to start one last time before you head back off to england what are the highlights for you lots of different things to talk about fans the football cultural aspects even the food is very good and she can say to come here is as a tourist primarily a cup why to come back and i will come back. i am. so sorry i just lost racists and who can spur some kind of clear other children who think if you see going to honestly you do you expect you are told you we keep hearing the racist hooligans they're everywhere you look where all they are been everywhere opinion tubes and taxis and you bruce and you know the biggest thing you can ever do is a tourist just smile at people i haven't added anybody look at me as if i'm the devil incarnate i haven't had anybody say anything employed never mind rice east

haven't seen any broadcasters. why not because there's no reason to always be suspicious of this country say not about that contribute cause of global soul is regular everyday people that want to get all this politics and the one thing i'm looking forward to a while fully from invited back or say to come back and see all of the city's surroundings some are eye catcher in perth rushed off to of not see not being to open to moscow before the first trip to some place but good deal dishing it. presenters to see before the weekend she would definitely be in the running for the ball at least inside out a fantastic song genuinely and also you thank you for employed to make me know she won't be able to do this all again next year. so the experience is someone else who is involved in artie's coverage though you know neal joins me now in the studio and union you know we'll have a very different perspective you were you were for example were at the stadium for

the final what a fantastic place to be yeah it was got to watch the germans in full flow without really wall new world class player to their name really just winning i thought the fish and see the system great to watch a person sees considered to be to an extent preparation for the world up and it's going to be a lot more than just for host cities next time around how pressure is well i was speaking to some actually brazilian this is the final note brazil of course hosted the last world cup on the confederations cup the year before that it did a lot of praise for russia but one of the things they said was they felt some time security at the stadiums was a little bit harsh and getting a ride except for it and that opens up a lot of discussion that by security verses you know ease of getting a ride in great to get your your taken all they have to say though as first time to myself is only posted as all around good for host cities for stadiums and tons of.

twenty sixth street technology which we have lost the election of john almost all the flags now. as. the solution became stadium one of the most famously in the world rican say we know we will stay. in the right structure over to our rights the beautiful. see the kid says play in the fish stay here in the park where i'm from the sky. we. see the. full full the long golf.

the trees the cliffs of in the day you it's been great fun but we really have to go even joy did i hope we informed you and if not how we could least entertain to you and if you thought this is great a bit strange just imagine the madness we're going to bring it to the world cup next year and how to get by.

larry you're watching our t.v. amount per student more. your launching on our team. this year was. basically everything that you think you know about civil society have broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be. the normalising. we don't need people with things like this on our plate. this is an incredibly tense situation. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or something want to be rich. to going to be the person this is what before three of them or ten people that i'm

interested always in the waters of. course. i'm john harshman and i'll give you what the mainstream media can't go big picture . and when you question more find what you're looking for you see the little. dog. will go deeper investigate and debate all so you can get the big picture. hey there i'm lindy france the boss broadcasting around the world from washington d.c. tonight the institute of international finance says the global that now rests at

three hundred twenty seven percent of the world's annual economic output we look at who may be at fault here also italy have borne the brunt of the refugee crisis. this it's now threatened to slam the brakes on accepting more in the midst of its own economic crisis my guests and i talk about guaranteed government jobs versus federal basic encumber his the current welfare system we delve into the ideas thrown around and whether any real change is likely to take place than by starts right now. goldman sachs is making big changes to the front page of its website it's now

included an explanation of block chain to potential customers the firm describes block chain a series of recorded digital transactions as a technology of trust saying that it will combine the openness of the internet with security of cryptography there's been good reason though for a lot of caution for crypto currencies they're still comparatively untested and volatile on top of this they're currently decentralized entities making them susceptible to massive cyber attacks and privacy invasion. well days ago the chiefs of major tech firms converged on the white house for a party of sorts to discuss technologies impacts on the economy workforce and federal id infrastructure as well as emerging technology some big wigs showed up much to the chagrin of customers employees pundits and protesters including the ever present resists movement my guest says this protest approach is

counterproductive and that it's losing steam when facing big business and big money i sat down with patrice on luke a senior fellow at the independent women's forum to discuss when we. that there was a. kind of a campaign to get the c.e.o.'s not to come to washington d.c. last week for the tax summit and they still came and we're talking about jeff bezos from amazon we're talking about tim cook at it from apple like some really big names were in the room and we rewind back to last fall even after the election before the election one hundred fifty c.e.o.'s in the tech sector they signed an open letter openly against president trump you know the candidate trying to time and you know we saw some big names also kind of sit out some of the white house early white house discussions around tack and business leaders. he resigned. you know for a number of mistreatment accusations but i think what we're seeing is these c.e.o.'s are looking at not just the short term but the long term you know this is

ministrations pushing forward with a pretty aggressive agenda and they want to not be left out of the table left out of the discussions they want to be a part of shaping the policy and i think it's important to realize here these are not nonprofits these are big business guys a lot of them are great places to work they have great benefits they're coming out with progressive products but they're not a nonprofit they want to capitalize and move forward and they're going to do this and i think that a lot of people take their progressive message and don't want to actually realize that this is business and in all its ugly forms would you agree with that well i mean think about what companies exist for for profit and that's not a bad thing in your service making money exactly rich in the eyes of consumers like us you know and so they're thinking through you know when you look at some of the items that are coming out infrastructure there's a huge the opportunity for broadband access or expansion across the country so if you're interested in that that's an area for you to be the internet of things.

there's a really interesting movement to think about how do we shape policy around that and if you're thinking if you're an amazon if you're a big company that is producing. you know products that are wired products that are connected to the internet products that are making people's lives better but leveraging infrastructure you don't want to be on the back end of hearing about policy changes that are going to fundamentally affect your business model and if you don't do it someone's going to do it and if you do it right you can be instilling confidence in your customers in a lot of people so let's talk about the optics here we've seen people bal out of that sort of inner circle of what trump is trying to gather because of the optics what customers say what is their employees say how do you think how important is that going forward for these people as you said candidate trump you know brought those people into the room after he was elected. how do you think this is either going to. roll off people's bags or if they're still going to take it seriously as

far as the c.e.o.'s meeting in the room that's one of the terms yeah i mean there is they're thinking again about what they're trying to accomplish you know from a business perspective and so i'm not going to downplay the importance of employee satisfaction employees perspectives and even their customers perspectives i mean a revolt by your customers can have a huge impact on what you decide to do you or what invitations to the white house you decide to take but they're thinking through things like tax reform which silicon valley has been pushing for because they're thinking about all of the money that the revenue they earn overseas and how to bring it back here to them and states without having a huge tax burden tax bill so they're thinking ok we have an opportunity here to not just increase our bottom line but also allow us to expand our businesses by getting on the ground floor when it comes to these policy discussions to go along with what you've said you know apple gets maybe less than one percent business tax in ireland right we've got. the head of apple ten cook talking about really liking

some of donald trump's agenda ideas meanwhile mark zuckerberg attend these meetings that ironic to you because. ireland's getting it ireland is giving out a great deal still he wants in on this well the official statement is that there was a conflict of interest for mr zuckerberg you know i do think it was interesting that we didn't seize twitter's c.e.o. there we didn't see it facebook c.e.o. there and these are very big media companies you know i think they're making a calculated decision about you know. going to whether to go it alone whether you decide what which show up to you where do you send your maybe your. lobbyist to rather than yourself being in a photo op with the president so if you think they're not fear of patronage here. you will him something he says oh we're going to work with you but you owe me this . president is not known to have said that do you think people are a bit gun shy if they were going with president obama for the same reason then they

would be but i don't see that i don't see that and when you look at the obama administration president obama worked really closely with silicon valley he had to call in the tech cops the techies to rescue health care dot gov the obamacare website when it when it crashed and so there's there's always been that kind of relationship i think what last week's meeting did not just from a policy perspective was from relationship healing perspective you know to say you know this silicon valley needs to be part of the idea of modernizing washington d.c. and its tech infrastructure but also thinking through how are these policies that are coming out of washington would affect us. since the beginning of your regular crisis it's italy that's mostly bore the brunt after years of feeling ignored by the e.u. the mediterranean country. is now threatening to stop accepting refugees after

she joins me in the studio for more on that bianca hasn't the number of refugees actually relatively decreased over the years it has so you know compared to twenty sixteen and twenty fifteen the amount of refugees going to europe has dropped but a majority of the ones that have traveled in twenty seventeen to europe have gone to italy so italy isn't feeling relief like other units are which is why if they're looking at different methods to deal with it now because of its location italy has always acted as an entry point to europe for refugees but for the past few years the sheer amount of refugees arriving has taken a toll so big that the government is threatening to shutdown the ports the possibility was discussed at a meeting between the sorry serves as italy's ambassador to the e.u. and e.u. migration commissioner dimitris ever marvelous in a statement said quote italy is right when it comes to being when it comes to the situation being untenable in fact just over ninety two thousand refugees arrived to

europe by sea in two thousand and seventeen of that total almost eighty four thousand of them and it up in italy so most people would agree that the italians need a break but closing off the ports for refugees might not be an easy fix disembarkation is governed by international law which could make for complicated legal problems ahead the move would also for ships to change their sailing routes in particular vessels the coast guard frontex and nations participating in the anti-smuggling mission operation sophia could technically be banned too it's a situation that would definitely concern the united nations considering the criminal activity that's forest in the wake of the crisis earlier this year the un's migration agency or into refugees being sold at modern day slave auctions in libya it's not just the threat of human traffickers that refugees have to worry about despite the best efforts of aid organizations. the conditions at official and

unofficial refugee centers are often understaffed with very little resources but at a meeting next week migration officials are expected to discuss italy's dilemma and figure out what to do. figure out what to do it's going to be more complicated than people thought it was like hello are here according to our president how the aid groups responded to this big efforts they're also hemmed in by a lot of laws so all the aid groups are clearly very program except and so they're disappointed by hearing italy saying that they might not accept as many refugees as they have been for the past few years i don't think it's much of a surprise because italy in addition to greece have really been incredibly overwhelmed compared to the other nations so it's not that they can say they're totally shocked by it but you know these aid groups are saying the reason we have to bring the men is because if we don't we risk them all drowning out at sea and then we're spending our time going there or worse risk exactly so you know they're not happy about it and i think they're definitely going to be involved in talks

moving forward with the e.u. officials but they would you know it's not the best situation right now but they certainly don't want to turn any people away of course the u.n. announced that lots of syrians for turn to their homes what can you tell us about that it's an interesting little even think about it is but four hundred forty thousand syrians have returned home after being internally displaced so these are people that didn't end up leaving the country they just had to run out of their affairs in the road over. well that and in addition to that thirty one thousand who did actually the country went back so it's a very small odd glimmer of hope i mean it's good to hear these things but as we know syria is just in most parts not safe to go back to so it's partially good news but still concerning for most aid groups and yeah like that's that some very surprising news about that thank you so much. we're going to head to break now but

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borrowing sprees in the developing world has spurred a surge in global debt levels to a record two hundred seventeen trillion dollars according to the institute of international finance this is position to global debt at three hundred twenty seven percent of global economic output or g.d.p. as one of the most authoritative trackers of capital flows the i f f warns that three trillion dollars in a job now creates a danger of short term debt repayments to emerging markets according to the i.a.f.f. in some cases this sharp debt build up has already started to become a drag on sovereign credit profiles including countries such as china and canada for its part china accounted for two trillion dollars of this rise but it's that now nearly thirty three trillion dollars this coincides with the continued de leveraging of advanced economies cutting total public and private debt by over two

trillion in the past year. and the center for american progress a huge think tank on the left is pushing expanded government employment programs could be a great tool for training and employing a much needed skilled labor force in the united states but some fear it could create large an ineffective government bureaucracy handing out jobs that aren't adding value meanwhile others argue that universal basic income is the remedy to the current state of an ineffective welfare system but my gas. economics professor and program director at bard college points out the flaws in this and then lays out a plan check it out to jump into proposal is not a new proposal so i'm very encouraged that they have embraced the language and some of the rationale but it seems like what they're proposing is a bit more modest than what the actual job guarantee is the job period is a permanent standby policy that often is directed to the unemployed in

good times and in bad so even if the peak of the economic cycle we have about two people per every job opening so we'd need an employment program that will capture those unemployed people as well they're targeting him by the four point four million jobs and that seems rather small. yeah. to say the very least and right now unemployment according to statistics isn't the worst we've had but it's still not great and that's that's much more than that we need out there now see if you want to train and start apprenticeships fine but they don't guarantee private sector jobs for us to meet we need about twenty million full time jobs in today's world to have that number right what do you think about that yes some of my colleagues i believe economics institute have done a recent study that does the full count. we're looking at anywhere between twelve

to twenty million full time jobs a shortage of twenty twelve to twenty million so we need to account for people who have left the labor force right after the crisis people who are working part time but need full time work. other people who are invisible to us there is pent up demand for jobs even among caregivers simply because there aren't well paying jobs and so if we were to look at really the demand for jobs we're looking at much bigger numbers well tell me about these public jobs what number acquire an increase in government projects funding bureaucracy we know anything right now. the right political right is taking over elections in this country we just saw for a special elections the democrats are zero for four obviously the presidential election was it was one thing how do you think the american people would ever think that increasing government projects to offer employment would work because that sounds like what it would require to keep people publicly employed not just trained

. all right i think that if anything this last election told us that people want jobs i mean that is hard of their economic anxiety there are other issues without a doubt but with respect to our policy agenda going forward people need work and so . given what we are. already doing and how little we have how meager the expansion has been how. few jobs we've been able to create people i think are hungry for a lot more aggressive approach so are these going to be government jobs they can be federally funded but they can be locally administered they can be administered by nonprofit social interpret ventures there are many ways in which we can do this what's important to keep in mind is that this is a policy that compliments private sector employment the government already

spends in countless cyclical ways in other words when the economy is bad the government already provides a considerable amount of stimulus but if we were to do it through job guarantee we will simply be providing jobs to people who have been laid off that provides the stimulus to the economy we essentially eliminate jobless recoveries and as the economy recovers then people transition into private sector employment so in a sense we're not changing the function of government we already do counter cyclical spending except we don't know how much we need to spend because we don't directly employ people but doesn't the sound a bit like i mean you're going to have to agree increase public funding for jobs are fees jobs worth less do we need them is there a demand for these jobs are you just creating jobs where. you know so that someone

can pack a lunch and go to work every day and come home with a paycheck which we all know is very important people have pride in work and a lot of people unemployed want that but can we just go about willy nilly creating jobs to guarantee a job and if not that is the word job guarantee a bit misleading. it's a guarantee in the sense that if somebody needs work we will provide a project that will employ them at a above poverty i've argued for a living wage so in that sense it's basically a promise that's what it means to be a get and but then a job guarantee what kind of jobs would those be yeah what will project we're talking about we talked about building needed infrastructure are we talking about administrator or someone working in the you know the state highway program like in my state and they pay people fifty thousand dollars a year to do p.r. and make new pamphlets i mean i don't people that do that and it's not necessarily something that's really needed but we do need road workers so i guess one of asking

is these projects that people are being trained for what what what's an idea of some of those types of projects. so there are lots of socially useful to it is that just go unfulfilled i mean if you just look at the care gaps whether it's elder care whether it's child care whether it's community care i mean we have a lot of public squalor these jobs are for the public purpose these are socially useful jobs there are many many things that we can think of whether they're small environmental jobs like renewal cleanup whether they are small infrastructure jobs whether they are again care care work there isn't a shortage of things that we need to get done but what we also know is that unemployment imposes enormous costs on society and we already pay for unemployment we estimate that we're foregoing we're giving up about. half

a billion to ten billion dollars of output per day because we tolerate high unemployment now this is already paid for we're there also enormous costs that are associated with unemployment whether this these are health costs whether this is crime with its incarceration whether it is the urban blight and the poverty that we have to address this is paid for what i'm suggesting is that if we were to do a direct employment program that provides people with decent work decent pay doing useful public projects that will reduce significantly the enormous costs that we already bear right and a lot of people as you say you can fold that into. two trades and you know engineering refrigeration even all of these things that that so many people even with high school educations can vocational training method i'm trying to say valuable vocational training that so many people can't really get a hold on if the government maybe as you said funded those things it would add so

much to the projects we need now i want to talk also about what cap is targeting as an unemployment rate of our i'm sorry apply employment rate of seventy nine percent of the prime age working group that's nice do you think that's even possible. i think it is possible i i wouldn't necessarily think that this is the appropriate target i think the target is to provide work to those who need it what about the population that is not prime working age if we were to look at the national unemployment rate most economists believe that we are already at full employment but if you actually look at county level unemployment you will find that their pockets around the country some surprising areas in fact that are not michigan or ohio that suffer from persistent ongoing depression levels of unemployment and this is ongoing even in good times so if i were to do. i will simply provide

open ended job offer and i will target the program to these distressed communities some of these distressed communities may have elderly workers that still need work some might have young workers that have very high unemployment rates so the way that i would go about this is simply providing in a targeted way a job opportunity to anyone who wants it then people can voluntarily select into the program and only then can we know really what is the appropriate employment to population ratio that we will end up with i think the most the thing that would actually sell this is if you the american people understand what these jobs were how much they were needed and they weren't just trying to find someone something to do for a paycheck i want to talk about universal basic income it solves a fix to social welfare you say this concept is essentially a trojan horse can you explain that to me. well it's a giant voucher program the universal basic income promises. paycheck

to anyone whether they work or not whether they are rich or poor whether the economy is doing well or not on ongoing basis so it is particular with the right because it is seen as a replacement to existing welfare programs it is popular with the corporate sector because if that represents if that actually leads to replacing some programs that might lead to privatization of some public functions so we have this model where the corporate sector doesn't have any incentive or impetus to provide decent pay because this represents a subsidy why should a company provide let's say health benefits if somebody has a basic income voucher that can you know buy health care on the market why should we provide high pay or high wages if there is that other additional income that one

could. supposedly use to provide for themselves so it is a subsidy now compare this with a job guarantee the job getting to provides a decent work a distant pay if the private sector wants to hire a person in the expansion from this program they will have to match that wage benefit package and so that becomes an effective minimum wage for the economy and this could be very interesting if we hear more as this possibly develops maybe not of what these jobs would be to fill in these communities and even in their urban urban blight areas that there's there's the jobs have fled the opportunities have fled what could be created there thank you so much for coming on and talking to me about this forgot to bring you want to talk about this more very soon probably not . associate professor of economics and migrant chair at bard college thank you. a guest on the alex jones show has actually made nasa released a statement about life on the planet mars according to media reports former cia

case officer robert deal went on the show claiming that for the last twenty years. oh heavens children have been kidnapped and sent to mars to live and work as slave labor in a statement released to the daily beast nasa spokesperson guy webster said quote there are no humans on mars there are active rovers on mars there was a rumor going around last week that there weren't there are but there are no humans this comes days after a photo from mars made the rounds online with people claiming that it showed alien bone fragments in the dirt this is not deterred nasa however from trying to send people to mars with the estimates of the first manned mission could take place in fourteen years i guess we'll know about those martian earthlings when and if we land. that's all for now check out the show on youtube youtube dot com slash the best our team thanks for watching the next time.

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it was and. it. was. china's leaders she didn't ping get in moscow for a two day official visit comes amid beijing's strained relations with washington which is accused of military provocation in the south china sea. to have an exclusive report from the italian port of where migrants are being forced to work at the local mafia gangs as the country is under quote enormous pressure over the migrant crisis. and demand on the crown announces plans to slash the supplies of france's parliament fire bird in a bid to make it more effective at passing new laws.

hello and thank you for joining us you're watching r.t. international with me nicky erin we start this hour with breaking news from the u.s. state of texas police units have been deployed in the city of dallas server reports of an active shooter at a hotel officers was seen evacuating the building with witnesses saying that a shooting had occurred inside one of the rooms the identity of the shooter and his motive are not yet known we're going to be bringing you more on this story as soon as we get it. well our top story this hour china's leaders she is in moscow for a two day official visit he's met with blood amir putin in the kremlin the third and cancer this year the leaders then headed for an informal dinner before tomorrow's busy schedule of talks on the economy and bilateral relations ten billion dollars worth of deals are on the table as the chinese president will not

leave empty handed he'll be decorated with russia's highest medal with more on what's on the agenda his mark gasnier. they'll also be more pressing geo political matters including north korea and its alleged pursuit of nuclear weapons but also to south korea and america's plans that station on the peninsula elements of its missile shield which neither russia nor china like very much they say that the system conceived far too much into russian and into chinese territory beings visit to russia may also be a message china and the united states increasingly at odds that there was a brief spell where the two enjoyed good relations they made deals met talked and even ate chocolate cakes together the honeymoon says the press is over

she called donald trump today to tell him that relations between the united states and china will be worsening there were a number of negative factors chinese warships and jets were recently sent out to confront an american warship that china says got too close to its territory we're talking about disputed islands in the south china sea which china claims as its own but the united states says that it's free to move around in the area according to international law also the united states threatening chinese banks with sanctions because of their dealings with with north korea the united states labeling china as one of the worst human trafficking offenders in the world and what really put the nail in the coffin was donald trump announcing one point four billion dollars worth of deals with taiwan which china views as a renegade province so certainly no telling how far things will escalate and

there's no predicting donald trump. political analyst joseph chung thinks that the recent turbulence in u.s. china relations is due to beijing's reluctance to bow to washington's pressure there are obviously problems ahead. especially over the north korean issue but donald trump them in this situation seems to be exerting pressure on china to do a lot. in north korea to give up its nuclear weapons program but china feels that it is in no position to do so there is of course are being injured as such gestures may bring about an escalation of tension. and exacts abate the mutual distrust between the two countries hopefully they understand the human portions of avoiding such gestures beeding to serious military conflicts and confrontations. the e.u.

has promised to help its leave deal with the overwhelming influx of migrants to the country ever live in from africa brussels also agreed to boost funding for libya's coast guard however no direct reference was made to italy's a pill for the e.u. to take some pressure off by allowing rescue boats with migrants to dock in the ports of the member states. meanwhile rome is getting angry over the lack of support from the e.u. and has threatened to close its ports to rescue ships the interior minister claims the country is under huge pressure and the answer is the country's taken hundreds of thousands of people who've crossed the mediterranean it from africa according to the u.n. almost eighty four thousand people have arrived at italian paused since the start of this year as them estimates predicts the number will jump to two hundred twenty thousand by the end of twenty seventeen while italy calls on neighbors to help

france's even use drones and dogs to hold down those trying to slip across the border between the countries lies but with the tally and journalist marcelo foer who says if the e.u. does nothing to help basically through the migrant crisis the political situation in the region could take a turn for the worse. european union is keep saying we want to have peter lee we don't understand the tea party is facing a big crises but so far every measure as being an effective and there is a sort of double talk for example this morning to the newspaper said that there is an agreement between eataly germany and france to try to have a new position in europe and what we have heard there by the very many studies something totally different and what will be so much grown person micronesia sr is that he would not know a konami for migrants to come in france and fact these is closing the border

between eataly and france in the southern part of france so the question is a war what it what it will what they will do what you can you know we do to have p.t.s.d. and if you don't do anything the also the political situation reached to be very. out of control which means that the current government can become very unpopular with the migrant crisis gripping a silly report so emerging that mafia gangs operating creeping back in flowing from the facility import of palomar mother excuse me. by taking advantage of refugees ought to show the deepest get travelled through the port and use the hidden camera in some areas to find out exactly what's happening. just behind me is where the famous sicilian market and battle it takes place here in atlanta know every day and why in the day it's a hot spot for tourists in fact they're recommended to go and see the market is one of the things to do here when you're on the island of sicily but at night the

market tends into something completely different and instead of selling fresh produce and fish what's being sold on the streets hey it's hard drugs and the majority of the people selling those drugs migrants from africa that's what we've been. i'm told by one local journalist francesca. we filmed in secret with him on the streets here there is a very powerful trafficking. drugs system is good need to use somebody for sell drugs so in this case in the spirit they are using migrants specifically. because there is. a black pack sicily has a long history of crime mainly perpetrated by the mafia what's happening now is

that it's teaming up with migrants to carry end criminal activities the main migrant gang is black acts which is forcing new migrants to work for them. for. the. my four. to. one. you. don't refuse to join black x. activities. to be.

selling drugs is not the only way many a force to make money if you just head down this main street here literally just off this main street is where many of the girls to keep from nigerian origin selling their bodies going off tonight they have been many investigations into the profile surrounding drugs only as well as that of child prostitution but regardless of what the italian authorities do nothing seems to be able to stamp it out one of the reasons is because there is a constant source of migrants who are willing to take the place of anybody who is removed from the streets for prostitution selling drugs this is a problem that seems to have no solution. sicily. the migrant issue has come to prominence again in austria where two new zealand man is suspected of having killed an elderly couple allegedly motivated by his hatred

of the country's far right freedom party artiste. the five year old woman and an eighty seven year old man were killed in their own home there was that an attempt made to burn their bodies and burn the house down or police have confirmed that a fifty four year old man who came originally from tunisia to austria back in one thousand eight hundred nine is in custody he was well known to the couple in question we understand he delivered food to them a number of times a week that they'd helped him out with money in the past it's also believed that the reason that he. he's the main suspect in having carried out this this attack and why he turned himself into police was that he believed that the couple that were linked to the freedom party of austria the far right anti immigrant party we've also heard from the austrian chancellor christine care who said this where he's condemned this attack in the slaying of these two elderly people such crimes

destroy trust in the strength of our society and should be condemned when people are killed because of their real or perceived proximity to any party as happened in loons everyone needs to speak out but if it turns out that they perceived political affiliation was the reasoning behind these killings well that could have huge ramifications through austrian politics but also through politics throughout the wider e.u. however multi-culturalism experts the sale of ruth says the suspects ethnicity should not be taken into consideration in this sort of attack was wrong the fact that the man was tunisian to me is almost barely. a detail i mean the man who's been living there since one thousand nine hundred nine i would say he's equally austrian as he is tunisian so to me in am again to the fact that because he supervision he would have committed this act is absolutely absurd.

but part of the suspect says the couple had links to join an anti brussels anti migrant function in the e.u. parliament in twenty fifteen is known for a number of controversial policies including calls to zero immigration and it down on muslim symbols similar to the one on the nazi swastika in austria we spoke with a member of the freedom party of austria who told us it's political starnes should not change in light of what's happened while i think you could assume too much of all mainstream media's there you get a lot of misinformation especially about all politics and they give free way to i would say hate speech they speak out against aids speech but they give a lot of hate speech against policies that are deemed to be politically correct like all parties and if you consume the media's without criticizing their content and was all thinking twice you may be used to believe that if who is guilty for

everything that happens to you what i have to add of course is that even the violence is threatening it calmed leads to us or other people abandoning their political positions if we think if we deem it necessary to not do a lot certain symbols of radical islam certain symbols of and to democratic feeling all we have to stick to this position irrelevant what happened was some mad mad guy guys do. russia's foreign ministry has slammed a fresh claim that syrian government forces have used chemical weapons the allegation was posted in a tweet from an account of poverty linked to the so-called free syrian army it still has claimed that government troops have launched several toxic gas attacks on rebel held areas in an eastern suburb of damascus and russian foreign ministry spokeswoman marie as the harvest says she's not impressed by the latest accusations . the chemical show is gaining momentum the latest proof that an information

campaign against damascus has begun is a message about talks a gas attacks in eastern guta a piece of paper created in line with all the rules of the western media an ounce is the beginning of a chemical attack and condemns it but this is merely a pretty good. well this comes just days after the white house claimed it had information that damascus was preparing to use chemical weapons washington threatened to take action if that happens but russia dismissed the allegation as unfounded and warns the u.s. against any provocations early on monday damascus that the u.s. is refusing to investigate the previous alleged chemical attack that took place in april according to syria's foreign ministry washington opposed it sending international experts to case sites links to that incident the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons carried out of a moat investigation i think looted this sarin gas had been used if the c.w. did not assign blame for the attack but the u.s.

pointed the finger at damascus and bombed a syrian military base his syrian journalist for him the mask is dissatisfied with the results and the findings of the b c w probe into the alleged chemical weapons use in chief on an airport this year the syrian government said most of this to get in turkey through the help of turkish media users which according to syrian government compromises the integrity of the trip or taking into consideration that turkey has been hostile towards the syrian government and has actually made every effort possible to topple the government of president bashar assad the syrian officials also said that they have communicated repeatedly with all the c.w. and organize ition for the prohibition of chemical weapons have told the syrian government that they are able to listen is on the table to visit the country for they carry out the investigation first hand and later on became dependent on samples to live or to them interview also testimonies of my eye witnesses who went

to them in turkey. despite the fact that the syrian government sent samples of its own government looked at from a form and how the range for i witness accounts to be read to me. actually with investigators from the c.w. and devours because according to the syrian government these samples and these testimonies were not reflected in the final. report that was published by the oversea w. also the other important issue that was raised by damascus that all the chemical weapons but syria used to have were destroyed under the supervision of the international organization and they were destroyed abroad to prevent any future claims that syria has part of these weapons inside three interviews for future use and the last actually point the syrian deputy foreign minister for some of that said is that if the united states decides to carry out an act of aggression against damascus it should not only consider the reaction of damascus but also the

repercussions that could happen from other reactions from hours of syria including russia and of our allies and i think he was referring to iran and. the french president among the crown wants to slash the size of france's parliament by a third he allows the plan during an address to the senate and the national assembly in verse i. i thought a lot more more nimble a smaller parliament but with stronger means is a parliament where work becomes more fluid where parliamentarians can surround themselves with more better train staff a parliament that works better that is why i propose to reduce by a third the members of the three constitutional assemblies i'm convinced that this measure will have a positive impact on the general quality of parliamentary work we do see miss signs of the parliament wasn't the only proposal necron made the issue of terrorism was also touched upon he suggested lifting the state of emergency by the autumn and

bringing in tougher anti terror measures on top of that mccrone wants to loosen labor laws in a bid to boost jobs experts we've spoken to expressed opposing views on the plans there was a member of parliament for many years good seeing good reform morris it's good it's course. we have to reform the structure and the way of working inside parliament done between the national assembly it's a good reform a formin year we. need good good in the good sense this is a very bad i think this is a best way to kill the parliament because you see it should be we'll see tonight on the population about three hundred thousand instead of under and one hundred and fifty so it will be very difficult for each b.

to control its territory to know its territory and in fact you know more than you want to see a. reform proportional election that makes of parliament absolutely under control. publish an unconfirmed story about the russians doing something then issue a correction if it turns out to be false about the past have been set by some mainstream media giants is there she to press the issue in for such corrections recently if you're trying to explain. if only it were a fact that russia hacked the u.s. elections that would make some journalist lives so much easier here's something recent from the new york times the american intelligence community has said there were some interference is a fact not an opinion get it fact ok but you still have to explain why something's a fact they chose this report with its many high degree of confidence tags

attention judgments that don't imply that the assessment is a fact while the author of this and why times article got too carried away scroll down correction these system was not approved by all seventeen organizations in the american intelligence community though that's what millions of new york times readers were told in the original article at least it got caught with all those pesky fact checkers about life ain't that easy yet in school they taught me about the world's most respected news organizations like the n.y. times associated press but what do i see now on the a.p.'s website that very same clarification the correction for four stories over a period of three months you bet that correction didn't reach as many people and a piece of describers as the original four wires last week we got a glimpse into how stories with the hash tag russia and trump are done on c.n.n.

live on c.n.n. constantly in a rush of this rush with. this ratings but honestly if you think. it's just like. most of the you know we don't know and. john. proof this video was leaked after another c.n.n. online piece about trump's russia ties trump's associate has met a c.e.o. of a russian investment fund that headline would make the internet go. it's but guess what it turned out to be false the article was were cracked it completely no corrections and three c.n.n. staff members resigned well you can only learn from your mistakes just don't be so shy owning up to it. if there she had press news agency recently issued clarifications regarding several stories that published on russia's suppose that meddling in the us elections well we all stand to clarify why so many mistakes have

been made in the russian coverage but so far we've had no response from a cia analyst and whistleblower john kerry r.k. says russia is the media's favorite bogeyman right now for a variety of reasons. first of all we have this this untenable twenty four hour news cycle where every news network every newspaper every news website feels compelled to produce something new constantly over the course of twenty four hours so the competition is vicious secondly i think that most of the news outlets in the united states have taken a political position whether it's pro truck or anti trump and the russia story fits into a lot of those narratives now i for one have said from the very beginning of this that if we're going to accuse the russian government took battling in our internal affairs we've got to be able to present proof to the american people that proof has not been forthcoming. but for

a lot of people here in the united states they don't really need the proof they just need the new york times and the new york times these associated press frequently rely on one unconfirmed source before they run with the story. and now football is germany proved once again to be the kings off the pitch winning the two thousand and seventeen confederations cup well ti's neil harvey and award winning sports broadcaster stan collymore has been covering the championship for. another beautiful sunny day here in st petersburg welcome to our teams continue coverage of the twenty seven team confederate. scott which after sixty matches in sixty days saw germany lifting the trophy courtesy of a warm no win over chile now i know you're thinking where has stan collymore gone

he was here throughout the competition with me he has now sadly i know together our departed back to it but before he went he took time for a chat with me about his russian twenty seventeen experience going to start one last time before you head back off to england what are the highlights for you lots of different things to soak out fans the football cultural aspects even the food is very good and she can say to come here is as a tourist primarily a cup why to come back and i will come back. but i am. so sorry i just lost the racists and who can spur some kind of clear the children who think if you see going on the say you do you expect you were told to keep hearing the racist hooligans they're everywhere you look where are they up in everywhere a pin on troops in taxis and you bruce and you know the biggest thing you can ever do is a tourist just smile at people i haven't had anybody look at me as if i am the devil incarnate i haven't heard anybody say anything employed never mind rice east

haven't seen any broadcast is russia why no because there's no reason to always be suspicious of this country say not a bad not contribute a beautiful soul is regular everyday people that want to get all this politics and the one thing i'm looking forward to wow fillet from imported batboy say to come back and see all of the city's surroundings some are right catherine perk rushed off the of not see not being to open to moscow before his first trip system but spoke good deal dishing a few more presenters to see list before the convention and you are definitely in the running for it was all a student say about a fantastic time genuinely an aussie thank you for inviting me to you know she might be able to do this all again at the world cup next year. well someone else who was working with us throughout the competition artie skate party got stan's perspective you worked in a different capacity different locations and found zones of the stadium what were

your highlights of the competition i say there are a couple of the but most of them are actually from the fans themselves i mean i think that what they would say it's a festival of football don't they it's always about how the fans completely light up the tournament it doesn't matter how good the infrastructure is or the organization there of course obviously that helps as well as the security it's the people themselves and i think it was on both sides so you had the foreign fans coming in here and also the russian fans that really kind of got into it as well and also not only supporting russia but also the other teams that were taking part we saw the face painting that have all kind of different sort of flags painted on their faces and really getting involved and that whole feeling of that kind of international mix of everybody being very friendly getting on and having a good time i think that really made me see a great experience for fans but also i would say for. the media i mean the chance to travel around look at these cities responded i did as we went around the four different ones for this competition we met fans we met celebrities and we just couldn't help ourselves taking a few autographs along the way. we are we've reached the end of

all or all the see of our confederations cup twenty seventeen previews we went to st petersburg and it was on. to moscow to remember when this football din of a single name on a long way with a politician. you can tax a choice of song it's been an emotional journey so we've got all those signatures and i see that this just warm space left on the ball and i really believe this is for i want to say it's been a great pleasure working with you start your really well respected highly successful premier league striker. here i would consider it a great honor if you could just hold the ball while i saw. it all. hope you've enjoyed it i hope we. and if not the whole with the least and to tell you that if you thought this is good a bit strange just imagine the madness we're going to bring you for the world cup next year another good bye.

ok reminder now of our breaking news story at this hour from the u.s. state of texas where swat police units have been deployed in the city of dallas over reports of an active shooter at a hotel officers was seen evacuating the building with witnesses saying that a shooting had occurred inside one of the rooms the identity of the shooter and his motive are not yet known but we're going to be bringing you all the latest on this story as soon as we get it is. meantime coming up next the aussie international sophie and co tells us what lies ahead in the realm of cyber security for the.

welcome to so fantail and sophie shevardnadze digital technology unprecedented opportunity and our lives but it also creates more targets for cyber criminals says

everything around us is connected it all can be hacked so will our reliance on gadgets make us fatally to cyber crime while i ask. the u.s. cyber crimes are. a touch after attack cyber criminals are plunging government agencies into chaos paralyzing corporations and disrupting people. as more and more devices and services go online becoming an easy target for hackers worldwide so how vulnerable are states and businesses to the actions of crypto criminals can critical infrastructure be protected from. online assaults and what happens if malicious software forms into the wrong. neil wallis chief of the united nations global program on cyber crime welcome to the program it's really great to have you with us now neil de lay has been the cyber crime story has been they want to cry attack in a federal lots of countries and damaged key infrastructure but the software the

cyber weapon behind the want to cry virus was actually reportedly developed by the u.s. government and stolen by hackers so why aren't cyber weapons guarded as tightly as missiles are tanks falling sophie thanks for giving me the time to talk with you today i think you raise an important point i obviously couldn't give you any specific detail on the original of the exploit because that's simply something that's been reported in the press a lot of not seen the original of that however would have dozed show us i think is the need for governments to work clearly together to help minimize the risk of exploitation of difficulties in technical attacks on software well i mean a cyber weapon is basically finding a flaw or a hole in software right so if the government develops a cyber weapon it knows about software issues why not tell its allies why not tell the software company why make a weapon out of it. i think that's

a question that you have to address to individual governments where that was the issue but i think the creative point that comes across with all of this is the need for governments to work together and within the united nations office and drugs and crime that's what we do we bring governments together from around the world from iran political persuasions to try to minimise these sorts of risks and help those conversations to occur but i mean well you know work is part of your work also convincing people who are placed higher actually to work in communication with their analysis and not guarded secrets for themselves and maybe use it later i think it is a mixture of. that the way we work is that we for example we host in the intergovernmental expert group on cyber crime i'm governments around the world sit on that most recently and i believe this year and it's that sort of opportunity where we create the mechanism for governments to talk to each other to work

together to grow relationships and ultimately all of this is about minimizing the risk to the public and saw the crown but how hard is it to give for the government to make the governments give up those findings. i think the way that the u.n. works we don't interfere directly in the issues of us over a member state when we do is to create that atmosphere and the capability for governments to work together and i think what we seek to encourage are those sorts of relationships where governments from across the world from across political divide do sit together to try and work their way through some of the most challenging of issues in cyber by its own something how damaging can a cyber attack be i mean what's the worst case do you have to hack into the military to hold onto you you have to hack into military computers to do lots of damage or a kidney mass where the infrastructure and step shut down an electricity grid or a phone network for example yeah i think it's

a really important question and the context of that is exceptionally important because depending on which country that that happens is in depending on what their critical national infrastructure is you could have a really serious impact we've seen where smaller countries more developing nations have suffered from attacks that have for example crippled the internet for a period of time i was speaking with representatives of just last week and they were explaining from their analysis and from their data the attacks and critical infrastructure have changed in the past year so instead of energy attacks being the priority we've seen a rise in water and of water infrastructure coming under attack but looking at a different way you may be for a country that depends on tourism as your primary source of revenue so for example if an attack occurred the took the turns an industry offline hit hotels hit the infrastructure for bringing tourists around the country can be exceptionally grave on an economy as well so it really is can text really dependent. london based think

tank assess the u.k.'s trident nuclear submarines can be hacked into which could potentially lead to the horrors of its weapons being launched u.k. government has repeatedly denied any possibility that tried an operating systems can be hacked what's your take on that. i've got nothing really that i could comment on that i have no knowledge of trident i have no knowledge of any member states operating systems for for nuclear weapons or anything like that so i think you need to ask the government concerned now what. is it theoretically possible to hack into something so huge that would unleash a catastrophe again without having any knowledge of that system or how it's built i really couldn't give you an honest answer on that it's not only anonymous hackers from the deep live scene states use where likes that snagged on adversaries already cyber war the battleground of the future as it all going to be done with computer

programs i think what we see so few from cyber crime and cyber attacks that it has made things easier whether it's a state by satanic whether it is an organized crime based attack or off in the gray areas in between and within my program what we seek to do is help member states from across the world on their request to build the capability to investigate such attacks and minimize that risk but i think as the internet of fame is so devices that are connected to the internet grows that there needs to be a must much stronger posture of cyber security around the world both from industry governments to help minimize that risk and the public are key to minimizing that risk what scale does a cyber attack have to be in order to provoke a real live military response to be seen as an act of war. i think again all of this is contextual it would depend on the country involved and depends on what the nature of that attack would be one of the biggest challenges that any investigators

face in dealing with cyber crime is attribution who did it where did it come from and as we've seen with many of these attacks i mean you've mentioned one across the recent won't run somewhere attack it's still unclear where that originated from so our clear message to government is to work together around the world to minimize this risk to grow those relationships and make sure that diplomacy is the case to everything and then there is also how governments use the internet and hacking and is on balance like in qatar its neighbors cut ties with it partly because of something the emir sat and now they're claiming it was a hack but were they being so hard to identify the perpetrators are the end scene hackers becoming a convenient political a scapegoat again it's a really good question sophia and it brings me back i think to the previous response that after of you should is the most difficult bit and that's where we need to ensure that governments across the world across political divide have the

capability to investigate and deal with cyber crime attacks because without that it is exceptionally difficult to draw a conclusion on the original of that and to work on the policy that goes around the . yes intelligence and lawmakers are considering investigating. virus software because they think that moscow can use it to do bad things do you thing that stick to diligence are or is it politics actually compromising security and really just your personal take on that i have do understand your position working at the u.n. you need to stay neutral but it's something. that has to be your take what's your take on that so i think in all of this i wasn't aware of what of it or you said they're about to go sions about it because basically what if we look out the we look at other other russian companies group by b. for example they work with industry that work with law enforcement and government in lots of different bits of the world so for example if you're

a pole law enforcement agency group all you'd be or a critical guidance factor to the european soccer problem center and i think that shows to me how important the collaboration between industry alone for spending is and that's the sort of thing that i would certainly advocate for him push much more for the importance of industry and being a preventive measure home sauber on helping governments around the world today with these issues is absolutely fundamental there is too much of sauber crime to investigate it way out of the row with industry have protection under investigation is going to continue to grow irrespective of where they're based now the n.s.a. and major media outlets reported on the alleged russian hacking of a menu i met clones complain as fact and now we're getting information from french intelligence that russia had nothing to do with it the us claimed that russia attempted to influence the vote in austria and now the n.s.a. itself is denying it what's up with the n.s.a.

expertise i mean how could they get it so spectacularly wrong. again having no experience of the n.s.a. or the substance of what you're discussing it's exceptionally difficult for me to comment on that with any with any real substance sophie what i do think this shows again and again is the necessity for diplomacy at the heart of countering state based allegations of cyber and i think the way that we work at the un by bringing governments together and we're seeing america very good constructive process there is something that we need to continue to do and governments around the world are committed to doing that it's our road my role to help make that happen. so alex running voting safe enough nowadays or should countries just go back to good old paper ballots i think like anything we see in cyber there are elements of protection elements of security that you can put around anything there is no such thing as one hundred percent security and each individual member state has to make

very own decision of what's right for them we see some governments some countries that choose to use paper based systems we see others that choose to use our trauma and really that is a decision for them because all of this is making sure that there is comfort in the system that's in place right now we're going to take a short break right now and while we're back we'll continue talking to you they had of the united nations global program on cyber crime nail walsh on how to fight cyber crimes more effectively statement. in case you're new to the game this is how it works the economy is built around.

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and we're back with mia walsh chief of the united nations global trope ramón cybercrime neil welcome back now you've been saying that close international cooperation is needed to fight cyber crime but it already exists in some form so is it more that those countries don't really want to coppery. no i don't think that's the case the toll what we see on a daily basis both at a policing and law enforcement level through to diplomacy is the real desire to work together we had over ninety member states from the un in vienna

a few weeks ago discussing sauber crime discussing matters of policy and diplomacy that's working there's more to be done but it is working and that alone for some level we see cooperation bilaterally so between states a multilateral e through institutions like interpol in europe whole and that is working i think there is that desire that we're about working together we're about keeping countries and citizens safer from saw. but you're still saying that there is more a need it right there's always more that can be done i think to enable closer working together to build those relationships and build trust across different bits of law enforcement organizations so and my six has been reinforcing that cybersecurity squats with hundreds more stuff does that mean that intelligence agencies will rely upon internet and social media war and bond style agents. again a good question but having no knowledge of m i six or how that structure would work

i think it's a question you'd have to refer to the u.k. government but looking at the broader sense of that i think where we see if we look across crime and cyber crime as a whole seeing that delineation between what happens online and offline is becoming increasingly blurred one of the biggest risks that the most deal with around the world is online child sexual exploitation and abuse and as adults we might often have a perception of what a risk might be but when we speak to kids when we speak to younger teenagers their understanding of what happens online and offline really has become a very grey area that there is no separation between online and offline it's just life so it means the we as investigators diplomats we have to have a different approach an approach that recognizes or children assess the risk to be no sign of something and this i'm sure you know a sadder crime separate from ordinary crime i mean is it really geeks and nerds and darkened rooms or is an organized and much tighter like a mexican cartel. it's

a really good question and we tend to look at cyber as being cyber dependent so where you need a computer to do something so for example hacking a computer system or cyber enabled let's look at a traditional black card for old ten years ago i would have needed to steal your credit card to do it whereas now i could send you an e-mail and socially engineer you to give me your bank card data so really there is that broad mix of stuff that you need a computer system to do it and then other things that can happen generally sometimes it'll be an individual kid or adult with a coding capability other times we look at i think a growing risk what we call cyber crime as a service where highly technical highly experienced cyber criminals will offer their capability to other organized criminals even individuals so for someone with no i.t. capability if they want to become a cyber criminal they don't need to learn how to do it they can just pay someone to do it for they give me an example how exactly can sabur a cap of

a lady help irregular criminal operation like an extortion ring or a drug smuggling yeah absolutely there is a case that's in the press from a couple of years ago where there was a large drug trafficking group operating from south america through to northern europe through the port of antwerp in belgium cyber criminals help the organized crime group to move their large amounts of cocaine to have cocaine from south central america through to antwerp and by manipulating the computer systems within the the doc the port based companies and the container based companies where this was moved it helped the organized crime group to traffic a large amount of drugs without detection for a period of time and this is what we see that cyber criminals can help other organized criminals to reduce their risk and to really try and make a difficult venture much much easier. cyber crime or about hacking meaning is it mostly technical or is it about making people do things like clicking on

a bad link juve being them into doing something silly blackmailing i don't know if you remember they were banned in virus that was simply an email asking you to just delete important files are the public the weakest link in cyber security. again an excellent question and something that we hear regularly you can look at it two ways you can say the public is the weakest link because you put in infrastructure or technical protection into everything you've gold. but still someone could come in and maybe put an infected u.s.b. stick in or click on an infected e-mail already or an infected website the alternative is to look at the public can be your strongest link with the public can be the most important part of your defensive armor by education by empowering the public we can help to minimize the risk of cyber crime within my program around the world in guatemala el salvador coke where educating the public and how to stay safe and how to become that critical part in keeping structures and infrastructure saif

they want to cry tat made a lot of noise but they didn't make make much money for those behind it is big money mate quietly and cybercrime and how i mean can you give us an example of how it's done. that's a good one across the first it's a great example of something that didn't work it's attracted so much public attention from around the world and political attention i think if there's a good news story out of one across is that it's broad run somewhere to the top of the cyber crime political agenda something that lone foresman in diplomacy has been talking about for some is the internet organized crime threat assessment a europe whole publishes has been pushing run somewhere as a critical threat now we see governments around the world talking about it even in russia as you know seventy five percent of victims of want to cry were based in the russian federation so we see that as a crime group or a criminal trying to make money and as you rightly say they haven't made much money a toll in fact only around fifty bitcoin which is around one hundred thousand euro

has been sent to those criminals bitcoin addresses and they've not been able to actually see or take that money yet so in effect want to cry has made the creators of the disseminators over no money at all so a criminal business model with. didn't work where we look and where we see making real money is the attack on banking infrastructure and institutions and sometimes on business as well there is still often a reluctance of big business so to report if they have had a breach if they have lost an amount of money that may be because they're afraid of a reaction from shareholders or boards of directors but we really encourage business to work with loan foresman to try and counter that threat if it's simply written off for fear of embarrassment that cannot help law enforcement it can also help a government to help minimize the risk to true economic prosperity and society so when we see money like that being made if we don't counter that we don't come to

the narrative of it that's where sauber criminals continue to exploit it so the cyber crime is also made possible due to a need characters like bitcoin that you mentioned this is the ultimate crime enabler or can actually trace stand recipients of the currency sure i'm not sure i would call it the ultimate crime enabler it's just another way of doing business in many ways no different to some informal ways of moving money bitcoin and other crypto currencies seek to be anonymous so a semi anonymous however the work that we're doing within the united nations office on drugs and crime where we're building the capacity of investigators around the world to counter celebrate we can investigate block chain big coinbase transactions and we are very good at working with partners such as china as to identify where those transactions are and who the users behind them are so are you anonymous if you use bitcoin can you get away with it no you can't. can be done completely

anonymously or is leaving a digital fingerprint inevitable can someone believe that fake fingerprint on purpose. again another good question and it's back to the conversation about after abuse who did it some criminals some cyber crime advanced persistent threat groups will seek to try and anonymize where they are or to pretend to be coming from somewhere else and the challenge for investigators is to try and identify those digital footprints as you rightly call it to try and work out who they are and where they are trying to identify on those occasions where someone is pretending to be somebody else or pretending to be in a different place it's not easy but it's not necessarily impossible either but it takes time. threats and may once more government regulation of the internet following the latest london attack but with that do any good i mean if a person wants to hide online they will so are those kinds of current proposals an

overreaction or a lack of understanding about how the web actually works i think the key point in all of this sophie is than the says there's a the absolute necessity of government governments to sit together work together and talk through these issues the risk of sauber the risk of terrorists exploiting over to these on the internet is a global phenomenon it's not just a unique to the u.k. we see it around the world so i think for us at the u.n. to host the forum give the the opportunity for governments for internet service providers for social media companies to sit together discuss these problems and come up with workable solutions that's the key to it according to threat metrics cyber security firm fifty percent more cyber attacks originate from europe and any other part of the world over the last couple of months overtaking the united states for the first time how do you explain that how do you claim this shift. sure again

back to the attributions are where it's coming from who's doing it and where do we identify where those that attacks have arisen from sometimes i think we see where there is a pollster from law enforcement that shows cracking down on a specific geographic area or a specific threat area then we sometimes see a shift in where those attacks or where those crimes originate from so i think when we see from like you say from us to europe we see a shift that will be for a period of time and then we'll see it move somewhere else as well something we're very conscious of very aware of is the risk of a jurisdiction of risk so a country or an area where cyber criminals seek to exploit a weakness and they just listen or a weakness an investigation or enforcement capability and that's where our role with the u.n. working with others like interpol if you're a folk hero polled by luttrell governments is to try a capacity to minimize those risks now you worked in actual law enforcement and you

fought terrorism with the f.b.i. and you worked with interpol can do you an organization you work on the advise others on how to fight cyber crime or can it actually fight as well. united nations offers them drugs and isn't an investigative body our role is upon request to go to countries and help them build their investigative capability so we don't get involved in the investigation of an offense we don't get involved in the prosecution well we can do what we do do is to build that capability to investigate helping the infrastructure get in place helping a government policy to get in place helping investigators to grow their capability to investigate we help them get in touch with other countries to build those relationships and to build our capability to do something but the actual investigation process is a role for each individual country to do and we wouldn't seek to get involved in that whatsoever right mr walsh thank you for taking time to talk to us today were discussing cyber security with me whilst chief of the united nations global program

on cyber crime that's it for this edition of the next time. revealing the truth see him in the nothing better known as russia gate also when trump tweeted in washington melted down what to expect. meetings.

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