yes you could never you're thank you so much hark ye thank you all the world all the world's a stage we are definitely a player. like. oh . i. thank you and. we start. with the health care debate which i don't believe exists i do not believe there is a health care debate sure there are red faced politicians screaming about one make believe side of the other but that doesn't mean there's a legitimate debate it's kind of like alex jones is radio show like i get that it exists somewhere and then a certain number of people who don't watch properly listen to it like. i know it's out there but i don't really acknowledge it's

a thing that matters. not even alex jones believes what he says matters no seriously seriously in court recently his lawyer said on his behalf he's playing a character he is a performance artist. yes he's impersonating an internet troll who's medications are not interacting well. anyway in order for there to be a health care debate there needs to be two sides with some merit that can be argued about right but that's nowhere to be found in the health care debate right now instead there are two sides both of which are disingenuous both of which are corrupted by big money both of which are hardly even science instead they're just two separate spots in the center of whatever proverbial thing we're picturing i'd i'm i'm picturing a duck and i don't know why you always i always picture a duck but the debate should be is our country wealthy enough to cover the health care of every man woman and child. if the answer is yes. then the who will

do it. and the answer is yes then. the other side of the debate should be let them die and i admit that side of the argument is a bit terse but it's not without merit especially if the dying patient happens to be the man who gave the young michael bay his first camcorder thereby putting us all on an inescapable calamitous path to a future involving at least seven and men as many as thirty six transformer movies . i mean a small car turned into a five story robot with heavy artillery and hundreds of millions of moviegoers are fine with that. it doesn't even it here to the law of conservation of mass. and that gaping plot hole is then followed by two hours of meaningless metal pieces flying at your face you know vomit inducing tornado of talk. and god help you if

that sock is in three d. . so if that man who gave michael bay the camcorder were to get a rare lung infection i could be talked into joining a lot of guys side pretty. good. point being in the health care vs let them die debate there would be two legitimate science but we don't have that we have trump care versus obamacare on one side you have a pro corporate system designed to enrich industry consisting of slimy parasites who spend their days and nights trying to figure out how to make sure sick people either owed them lots of money or die quick and on the other side you have trumped care. well with one of those two options there are no preexisting conditions except for the bridges to condition of a national psychosis which acts like this is

a genuine debate. don't get me wrong trump cares i doubt it'll be worse the estimates are that by twenty one six as many as fifty one million americans would be uninsured as of last year there were mere twenty seven million americans uninsured but saying obamacare is better is like saying it's better to catch crabs from sleeping with a hot young lady than to get a permit to use gym towel. sure i guess. what should we just be focusing on the fact that you have crabs. and should you also switch jim is i mean is. it worth the ten extra dollars a month. our health care system both obamacare and from care is a travesty it's a good tactic it's on par with with your lover your beloved dog getting hit by a truck that was carrying your favorite ice cream so not only do you lose your best

friend but now your favorite ice cream tastes like profound sadness. for forever. millions of people have filed for bankruptcy over the past decade because of health care costs and it's rich people. live on average fifteen years longer than poor people partially due to the cost of good health care this on medicare an unmitigated failure in the wealthiest country in the world will get even worse under any conceivable version of trump care. it will kick millions of people off their insurance. and will set up what remains of obamacare to crumble to the ground so that trump can go we're told you would. most of trump's presidency seems to be premised on the idea that he can just set up everything to collapse even further and then sell ugly had told you so. but all of these health care plans are

simply tinkering around the edges of the unique torture device designed to suck money out of gasper americans and place it in the pockets of morbidly obese insurance companies all right by design that is our system by design and as you can see the insurance company heads it's rather run by a very diverse group of people there. but they you know what they see past their differences to bond over the fact that they're all sociopaths. told the world. you're sure ideas such as universal health care exist but they're only allowed like quick three minute shout outs by bernie sanders before c.n.n. plays him off like he's an oscar speech that has gone on too long you know i really think everybody should get health care why why are you pushing me i just i think we have enough well cabo it can go in. just the

last week the democrats in california have killed their own single single payer plan even though they could have passed it if they had wanted to by adding like this is a legitimate debate we are self consciously so little fi and cultural acceptance of the idea that health care should be exploited for profit all right it should not stop dignifying that thought process. and that's why i have a tough time running around yelling breathlessly about how bad the g.o.p. plan is made no mistake it's thoughtful it's it's on par with political or health care plan a right wing which was shoddy at best. but let's put it this way all right imagine there were a ferris wheel that was poorly constructed and therefore was decapitating all the

riders and for some reason each decapitation made a lot of money for the c.e.o. of blue cross blue shield right and you were walking by and you noticed two people standing there arguing over which was worse the fact that a ten year old angel of a child just died on the ferris wheel or the fact that a forty eight year old just died while one is clearly worse but you wouldn't weigh in on the debates you'd probably be like. how do you turn of the wheel shut up shut up it's not very real. when it comes to health care it's time we did demanded they turn off the ferris wheel all right making money off of the fact that someone is sick or injured or dying can't magically morph into a morally defensible way of doing things any more than a volkswagen bug could magically morph into a massive building size robot starring in a movie. and that's why we're the only developed country that deals with health

care this way coming to you from washington d.c. the value of being. the way. i. am. now is take the news from behind good trump white house is the most unethical and secretive in history which is saying a lot for a house that has been filled with every flavor of war criminal fog and sexual pervert that house that has would make fifty the fifty shades of grey dungeon look like the wee's playhouse. was well they would play house wasn't exactly on the up enough but. is it wrong in polite company to ask whether someone ever

had consensual sex with a chair and sat. around. to rail all right. anyway trump press secretary sean spicer a man who always looks like he's having three separate but unrelated real allergic reactions. is now giving most of his press. under the condition that nobody can see them which raises a lot of questions. such as isn't the point of a president having to make people aware of what the white house is doing in which case wooden cites be one of the top three or four some says. we would need so spies who has left the reporters with only hearing and smell and they are failing miserably at describing the smell in that room. they really have i mean and if they did i think the adjectives most often use would be pungent rotting

villainous corpse and a hint of lavender. so basically you know spice it in a bunch of reporters huddling in a like a linen closet yelling at each other this is actually from a press briefing this week this is the you're going to do it you're the president so please let's work through this not just. with me through the cameras like we turn the cameras on when we turn the cameras off i'm sorry that you just want to turn the cameras are strong there in the room the room. it sounds like they're in the upside down place from stranger things. well ok you have it. for at least some of these really some of these briefings the white house even said reporters couldn't record a video or audiotape and couldn't report on the fact that they were instructed doctor up born. and right now i'm reporting on the fact that they weren't allowed

to report that they weren't allowed reports that the. ls. ls did seem to tame in the first in the first few days when i was in office you remember he allowed cameras everywhere like there were people just running down the halls with cameras. probably because he thought being president would be simple like he would just waltz in and sign some things titled approving all of the pipelines and no m.r.i. for poor people immigration immigrants can eat a bag or whatever. a bag of they picked themselves because we still kind of need them in the fields. then. don't shoot the messenger. then trump started the process that the job is a little more complicated than that so they got rid of the cameras next the white

house began texting using an encrypted app that automatically deletes all correspondences and a few days ago citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington filed a lawsuit against them for this auto delete app but more and more secretive this white house gets the closer and closer we fly to a fascist state we now have a reality game show host as president a completely secretive white house filled with trolls and utterly corrupt congress and an economic empire that has as much chance of holding itself up as steve bannon pira wedding on and a half the ways had during the filming a lame is. thanks obama. no really i blame obama for a lot. of that at least partially because you know for the increase in secrecy despite talking a big game about transparency obama ranked as perhaps the least transparent administration in history up to that point as p.b.s.

reported in twenty fifteen the obama administration set a record again for censoring government files or outright denying access to them last year under the freedom of information act my favorite word is set a record again. because you know other than there's nothing more satisfying than setting a record and breaking your own record. some people say well obama gave a bunch of interviews right that's transport transparent yeah but most were not hard hitting they were with people like anthony boardgame it all right who didn't even broach the twenty six thousand drone bombings last year for some odd reason but did get to the bottom of why obama doesn't like raspberry cheesecake. gordons important questions between the secrecy of the spying on american citizens and the unitary war powers obama handed down a dictator's tool kit did he think donald trump ted cruz or hillary clinton would

give all those insane powers back here you go i'm done with secrecy now i'd like to shine a light on my corruption now of course i want to. frederick douglass said in eight hundred fifty seven power concedes nothing without demand and as trump said about frederick douglass frederick douglass is an example of somebody who has done an amazing job that is being recognized born more notice. than the amazing jump and at a shade under two hundred years old. he says brian when he was over. on second thought donald leave the cameras off we have to go to a quick break but join me on twitter i'm at lee camp or at redacted tonight plus i have a live comedy shows coming up in minneapolis chicago and washington d.c.

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on the trial that we have spent countless hours poring through documents to tell the story about a new site. for corporate media research uses to talk about the current work. i'm going to be clear picture about how disturbing council for conduct has been. these are stories that no one else might tempt or you're close to the american. west. was. going to paddle back to the internet from the f.c.c. on july twelfth over forty thousand people organizations and websites like netflix and twitter will participate in a net neutrality day of action try to access those sites and you'll instead see

a page with words like blocked or upgrade or the spinning wheel of death. not to be confused with the spinning wheel of death on the price is right. and which of you guessed the wrong price for a container of dishwasher detergent they execute you. that's not your grandma's price is right tell you that much for more on this way turn to our senior internet expert now we go. oh that was struck me when i was going to fight it seems like you know the importance of the free and fair internet a lot more people will be aware of a feeling or twitter in netflix are the only ones that matter what i mean but the others what i'm talking about is the rest of the websites participating in. blackout one of those being ok cupid which i can assure you from personal experience deserves to be run at lower speeds. i don't need an ok cupid instant

message coming in at lightning fast broadband that says let me see your fake. and sit in the queue with the rest of those clowns asking for locks of my hair. cuts my profile clearly states i don't do feet or hair stuff until the second date. ok a little creepy but you do you do great hair. it's so cute you name it the hair on my head. oh dear god ok maybe. like if you get one of the best ways to start but even then all websites deserve to be accessed at the same speed as other sites blacking out these pages shows us what the world would be like without a fair internet but this isn't this isn't a completely blackout these sites it's just a reminder to send the f.c.c. your first round of pro net neutrality comments before july seventeenth plus the other side is just the strong before the first i've seen there were over four hundred forty thousand anti net neutrality comments alone it was the worst it was

a spam bot natalie that the anti no trelawny comments were fake like all of them thousands of people didn't even know their names were on those comments because their info had been hacked. ok i was wondering how four hundred forty thousand people all just happened to say the exact words the plan currently under consideration that the f.c.c. to repeal obama is title to power grab is a positive step forward and will help to promote a truly free and open internet for everyone i thought maybe it was divine intervention. or at the very least the most successful chain letter i've ever seen . personally i'd say scrap the blackout and tell everyone to send the f.c.c. common form to twenty people in an hour or the internet die. you'll never orgasm again. ok that could work but first of all. it wasn't divine intervention it was an intervention and the second these protests actually do work in internet blackout in

two thousand and twelve halted the stop online piracy act which would have promoted censorship plus the f.c.c. still has to vote and it's really terrible for them as millions of people are on public record saying that ending net neutrality is an awful idea but the f.c.c. votes for it anyway ok ok you may have a point but to be fair there were millions of people who once said don't make swedish fish oreos and then it happened anyway. look at it even the fish knew it was a bad idea and. maybe having fish makes oreos healthier then again. thank. you you may recall that crocs inauguration of bunch of protesters were arrested well the trials of the g. twenty activists are still going on and many including some journalists are facing

years in jail for more on this let's go to john a for donald for the breakdown. here at the intersection of wealth and el in northwest. see this is a location where over two hundred thirty demonstrators most of them peaceful were kettles by police for several hours during the january twentieth protests of trump's inauguration and no a kettle what your grandma may use is to make you that caramel popcorn you love so much it's this. damn the d.c. police went nuclear they indiscriminately pepper sprayed the crowd without warning they used tear gas clashed bang grenades concussion grenades rubber bullets and smoke players so i guess they didn't literally go nuclear.

don't have. nuclear weapons right. now would be easy over two hundred demonstrators are now facing felony charges that could carry up to seventy five years in prison if they are convicted seventy five years we're protesting from states they should each be given seventy five years worth of free oily rubdown i'll volunteer. but seriously the initial charge of felony riding holds a maximum punishment of years in prison already draconian as butts a grand jury returned a superseding indictment that added new charges inciting or urging to riot conspiracy to riot and counts of destruction of property now full disclosure did some of the protesters partake in property damage yes it was a very few months literally thousands yes did the d.c.

police overreacted unlawfully arrest innocent people yes did the following all right journalists coverage of the vandalism make me laugh again yes this is just completely. and. you know we conjured your hate and oppression at the american people. and especially young white middle class americans this is not peaceful protest this is anarchy this smashing bank of america there's measuring. i've never seen somebody have so much sympathy for bank of america you know they give americans like oh yeah we sort of they deserve that. again the vast majority of protesters were nonviolent including those who were detained not to mention that half a dozen journalists covering the march were also arrested and two are still facing

multiple felony charges which is a further chilling slap in the face of the first amendment well at least the d.c. police didn't finger anybody's you know. the halls. oh wait they did an officer ordered five of the detainees to take off their pants before grabbing their testicles and then inserting a finger into their anuses as other officers laughed this is amounts to molestation and essentially rape one of the people subjected to this said he felt like the police were trying to break him and make sure he was punished. lawsuit time the a.c.l.u. is suing washington d.c. police alleging that officers wrongfully arrested innocent protesters during president donald trump's inauguration the lawsuit accuses the d.c. police of holding some protesters for as long sixteen hours and depriving them of food water and bathrooms thanks to that report world's most mature looking middle

school student the a.c.l.u. filed a lawsuit on behalf of four plaintiffs and there's also other legal activity by multiple organizations in the works including but you're like twenty seven hearing about a motion to dismiss all charges. which would make this segment useless in a month. i guess some court that i am not always that well ultimately it needs to be understood that this criminalizing of protests is happening all over the country there's an unprecedented crackdown at least twenty states have put forward or passed laws meant to silence dissent and we will not let it happen reporting from washington john f. or donald exactly. right. there on the right i mean there was never you know.

there are your headlines from the future in august you'll read a. in move to further hinder reporting on white house activity trump changes name to the symbol. for coming up in two weeks. f.c.c. increases risk assessment of uncontrollable free and fair internet to severe. and one week from now. pentagon announces a more brave patriotic young people joining military for brave patriotic health care. that's our show but i interview my friend give me your under jacket tonight the ip last night you walked out to you tube dot com sites redacted tonight until next time good night.

for decades the american middle class has been railroaded by washington politics. big money corporate interests that's drowned out a lot of voices that's how it is in the news culture in this country now that's where i come in. i'm michel martin r.t. america i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk in the straight news. questionable. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president if you. want to be. too bright for us that's what the four three in the morning can't be good. i'm

interested always in the white house. why should. i do not know if the russian state hacked into john podesta e-mails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims of russia i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he did not to be n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the u.s. . the hyper. and the lady corporate has once again proved to be an echo for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are

becoming indistinguishable. long. oh i'm tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture with automation potentially threatening millions of jobs as universal basic income the only solution condom is richard wolffe in just a moment and conservatives say they support small business owners so why won't they get behind a single payer health care plan that would free small business owners from having to pay their insurance health and employees health insurance once and for all find

out it's lonely. as the trump administration and congressional republicans push forward with their far right agenda democrats are still struggling to come up with a positive platform of their own especially when it comes to economics but outside the halls of congress a consensus is emerging among progressive activists about what policies they need to support going forward and tonight we dive deep into those policies with one of america's leading economists joining me now is richard wolffe visiting professor at the new school co-founder of democracy at work and the author of numerous books including capitalism is crisis deepens essays on the global economic meltdown richard wolffe welcome back. thank you tom glad to be here again thanks for joining us professor i want to talk about three big policy plans tonight single payer health care free college and universal basic income let's start with single payer

health care it's portrayed as radical in the mainstream media but isn't the existing american health care system the actually radical health care system absolutely the american health care system is the outlier it's the only usual among advanced industrial countries to put it in the simplest way possible we americans pay out much larger share of our total income as a people for health care than any other advanced country even comes close to it and the irony is the results we have the quality of our health care the length of our lives the amount of time we spend on going to a hospital are very mediocre we're not the worst we're not the best but we don't get particularly good outcomes but we pay more than everybody else for the medical care we get if we weren't blocked from being rational we would long ago have

changed to do what most other countries have done which is one or another cause and of single payer or a program more like that it's a real tragedy and the cup kind of a comment on the failure of american economic and political leadership to deal with so fundamental a problem as the health of our people the moral case for single payer health care is pretty strong and i think to many people a progressive bet it's even self-evident but why does it make sense from a macro economic point of view to create one giant national insurance plan arguably a monopoly. well we what we have already is a kind of monopoly on the part of the people who sell medical care the hospitals the doctors the drug companies and a medical device makers and finally the medical insurers these four industries have come together and realize that by working as a group they can get more money for their collective opportunities to sell than

they could otherwise what a single payer system does is put an equivalent lee powell full body or the single payer on the other side of that market to begin to get some kind of fair deal otherwise if there's lots of dispersed players individuals so forth and companies i only one of them conglomerate salar the medical industrial complex we get the crazy excess profits and prices that we as americans have to pay it would be in the interest of every american to reduce the cost of medical care and all that would require is getting rid of the monopoly operated by the doctors hospitals drug insurer drug companies and medical insurers which they shouldn't have been allowed to have in the first place it's a brilliant analysis besides given access to everybody in the country the most important thing about single payer is that it would take profit out of the equation

when it comes to health care he talked about that why is it so important that some parts of our economy be divorced from the profit motive. well we have learned over many many generations in this country and elsewhere that the profit motive ten under some circumstances get you the kind of social result you want and if that's what the mass of people want in a democratic society then fine use the profit system in those circumstances where a majority agrees it's positive but likewise societies have long ago decided that there are things that the society needs that shouldn't be handled by profit making enterprise is because of the social consequences of doing it that way that's why we have public free education for all of our people that's why we have public parks wherever we go that's why we don't have a military that's a competing collection of companies but is rather one unified government agency and

that's why we run the the highways the way we do and so on there are many things that are better handle in a non capitalistic profit driven system because that puts profits first and everything else second and most societies don't want to make that kind of decision and i don't think americans would do so either and would be much better served by a nonprofit run medical care system for the same reasons that they don't want their education run that way etc makes perfect sense now to make policy gain support among progressives and in some state houses new york for example is universal free college free college is commonly portrayed as a handout at least by conservatives but should we actually think of it as an economic stimulus. absolutely look we as economists and i speak here for almost the entire profession are telling our students in high schools in colleges and universities that the united states future depends on being successful in

a global economy and that means we have major competitors around the world and one of the key determinants of our success will be the quality and the quantity of our train young people the number one institution that develops that is the college in the university in our country to short change that institution is to short change the very crucial future of the american economy it is an irrational step number one number two we already provide patchwork of inefficient overlapping programs to help young people and their families get an education which involves huge amounts of government money it's irrational not to bake it go the other way stop requiring the payment for this kind of a thing just like we did with high school and junior high school and elementary

school for the same logical reason was good for the country was good for the economy the same applies to the next level of schooling and that's what we should have done a long time ago and i believe most americans would again welcome it and the third final point. some of our most important competitors i'm thinking here of germany i'm thinking here of china are already moving down or have already reached the point of free tuition free college education they understand it and it's only again the private profit motive the private enterprise of the big universities that want to stay that way that is holding us back from doing what the country needs you know let's let's talk now about universal basic income or yeah this is probably the most radical proposal floating in progressive circles right now is that a better idea in your opinion than the government serving as the employer of last resort. you know in my humble opinion while i understand the desire to do it so

many people fall through the cracks we have such inequality in the united states the antipoverty programs are all contested all the time they have problems this is not a successful way of dealing with a country like ours the logical thing and what most people want is the following you're part of a community in the united states we want you to work because that's part of what being a citizen is if you're physically and mentally able to do that we want you to work in a place that is good for the community and good for you as an individual a place where you can grow a place where you can contribute and likewise you need income to be able to lead a decent life in your family the easiest thing for us to do if we were rational and not bounded by at capitalist profit mentality would be to say everybody gets

a job and everybody gets a decent income and then we won't have extremes of wealth and poverty we will not have the struggles over how much to take from those who have too much to make life bearable for those who have too little you know it's a crazy way of running a society and so yes i understand the impulse to do something to create a floor below which we don't let anyone fall which is what u.b.i. is a buyout but i think a far better solution would be to go to the root of the problem give people jobs give people decent incomes and much of the problems we now have from failing to do that will be solved and yet a lot of the support for universal basic income is coming out of silicon valley and it's sort of a variation on. i don't know if you ever watched the jetsons back in the day but you know george jetson went to work and for three hours a day about every twenty minutes he'd lean forward and push a button and that was his. job you know there's this whole you know the all the job

losses due to automation. as as we move into a more automated society might a synthesis of u.b.i. and perhaps government work programs that might involve things that are not necessarily thought of as high status jobs but had something to do i mean i'm thinking of the w.p.a. the c.c.c. those kind of things might there be room for something like that. absolutely you know if we become more efficient if we automate there's always two ways to deal with that if you have a machine that is twice as effective as it used to be if you're a capitalist you fire half your workers the remaining half being doubly productive can take care of producing what you did before and you save the half of your salary costs you pocket them as profits i understand why capitalists do that but from a social perspective from a human perspective it would be much smarter to say to all the workers you now work

four hours a day instead of eight because in four hours you can produce as much as it used to require eight hours of your labor in that way automation does what we always promised it would do which is free us up to not have to do drugs give up the space for artistic efforts for creative efforts for relating to one another in more humane and rich ways why don't we face the reality that automation could be a liberation for the human community rather than the opportunity for some to profit while others face this unemployment problem as if it were dictated by the machine it never was the machine never was the problem it was how the machine was used in relationship to human beings that proved to be the profit problem and that was driven by profit and there in again lies the key issue we finally have to face

absolutely brilliant professor richard wolfe thank you so much for being with us tonight sir thanks tom i appreciate the opportunity always great talking with you coming up you just heard progressives take on single payer health care free college and universal basic income but what do conservatives think we'll find out after internets rumble right after the break. lenovo was selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings printers to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battles that stole the few new socks products tell you that what we gossip and tabloid lifestyles a little more news today. off of our highs and telling you are not cool enough unless you buy their products. things are the hawks that we along

with the audience will watch. in case you're new to the game this is how. the economy is built around corporations corporations run washington the washington post media the media. and voters elected to businessman to run this country business equals power you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before. well the world. the news companies merely players but what kind of partners are into america. america offers more american person.

anyways landscape is just like the real news. and in the end you could never. see the park in the world all the world's all the world's a stage we are definitely a place. republicans say they love small business owners so why don't they support single payer and liberate them finally from having to provide health care to their employees let's rubble. women for their eyes alone little rumbalara horoscope or the national center for public policy research and charles our economist and president of the market institute thank you both for being here with us tonight thanks for having us so as

republicans continue to push for their ghastly tax for the rich tax cuts for the rich disguises the health care bill americans are warming up to single payer or universal health care a new quinnipiac poll has found that american voters support sixty to thirty three percent an expansion of medicare that would make it available to any american who wants it also known as universal health care so you know i don't get the republican opposition of the small business owners liberated costs go down people who want to go off and start their own businesses they don't have to worry that if they get sick they get wiped out people who want to leave a dead end job. better stay in there because the health insurance this will liberate the american economy what could possibly be wrong liberals opposed to free market policies this is not this is happening or yesterday could you please leave does the way that a free market works best is free entry and easy and insurance no this is this is regular small business easy entry and easy exit from

a market and the more that you put in front of a small business owner by happy to pay higher higher taxes to support this you're going to have a problem keeping. employees there if you want to or if you want to european style economy where young people are unemployed at twice the rate that they are in the us and old people are unemployed outside. of a few countries so it is true thank you but the fact is is that i would blame here and you know i blame the euro is something only the left want to do the republicans want to free market system and that's what they've been pushing for you to go to hell over a market system and insurance because you've got to have millions tens arguably probably hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of customers just to be an insurance company going to spread the risk over a lot of people you know one person gets sick with them with a million dollar your illness and it'll wipe you out if you don't that that's not a free market there are huge barriers to entry into the insurance but so you speak of these things as all static i don't know that something has to be

a million dollar cost for any injury or treatment what we now know is under the system that we operate presently there are a lot of these treatments that could end up running up those kinds of costs if you look in the phils and charles has been really good at identifying this phenomenon if you look at phil's where the government doesn't have the big presence you see when you compare one hundred seventy nine hundred eighty to two thousand and ten two thousand and seventeen the cost of various types of surgeries and treatments they were dramatically dramatic. a little lower if you're talking sixty seventy and eighty percent the question is why aren't we having conversations about what kinds of things can move away from the government umbro we're not having that conversation because that has nothing to do with the question before us i think it's marvelous that innovation technology automation you know we've gone from

vacuum tubes to transistors to integrated circuits to now just you know a little tiny i think it's marvelous the costs are going down wonderful what we're discussing here at least i thought we were is who pays the car i don't want a cardiologist who gets paid ninety five thousand dollars a year and that's the average that you're getting paid in the united kingdom i do not want a cardiologist that is paid that way so you would i rather you would rather have a hernia william dollars you would rather have a doctor who went into it for the money than a doctor who went into a casino i don't want to or cabs not as i want to attract the most talented i want to attract them i'm serious here there and then i want to look they are not i have been three are you absolutely know with by the national or city chiefs of my children that if he said well do you think total evidence is not what is going to win this debate i think i've heard that for you someplace before i will agree with you but the fact is that over here i want to doctor who is treating me as a patient instead of treating the ensurance company or the government as if heiress wants you to have a doctor who is treating you as

a money tree i don't know problem with that and i'll tell you out because in the u.k. and in france they have redirected the talented into the banking industry why aren't we asking for the smartest the highest i.q. people the most capable to come into the life saving in america if you do that you can be highly compensated in those countries you cannot and many people won't do it i don't think that that's where innovation and creativity can occur you know what's so sad about this what's so just incredibly sad about this is both of you guys seem to think that the only thing that motivates people is money you know i lived in germany for a year and. place that had a medical clinic salem international dot org you can check it out and dr gere was the physician there and you know one day we were talking i said you know how much you make and he was like turned out to be one hundred ten thousand a year and i said you know doctors in the united states can make two three times that and he says that's not why i want to medicine i want to medicine because i love medicine i want to help people i would much rather have doctor gear take care

of me than your doctor who wants to be a millionaire the more skilled a millionaire the market works where it's given the freedom to obviously not only get creativity you get innovation and you get advanced and you have the it launders practice medicine there's a doctor i'm all in favor of the doctor in austin texas that provides discounts to our patients that we're in spurs because she can but that's against the government rules or so she has to not take government money you know rand paul gets paid in chickens but still it's ok it's great i'm yeah freedom forty three million americans currently hold a whopping one hundred four trillion dollars in student loan debt which cannot be discharged through bankruptcy the average individual college graduate meanwhile is thirty seven thousand dollars in debt this is a problem virtually unheard of in countries like germany that provide college education to all of their citizens for free according as to for veterans of military families the g.i. bill after world war two returned seven dollars to the american economy in

increased tax revenues because people made more money when their college educated for every one dollar invested seven dollars came back to the government this is an investment shouldn't our government be providing free college education as a way of stimulating innovation in america you talk to horace you are the best and the brightest here's how you get them it's not hand for every dollar that you spend on it you get seven dollars back in additional tax revenue so tom you know want people to pick a college education because it's financially lucrative for them now is that what you're saying because i will tell you that in most of your shirt you know most of europe what does that have to do with an. most of europe they tell you by the time you're ten whether you're college age material because we don't have government control over our education system you can be eighty and decide you want to go and get a college degree that isn't possible in the united kingdom that's not particularly if you're actually it absolutely is it's not what you're talking about is the high school system again i lived in germany and when our kid was when when our son was

ten or thereabouts. it was like ok is he going to go into the reality or into the whole surely is going to go into the school that is college prep or is he going to go into the school that is that is for trades and by the way in the trades in germany you can make sixty seventy eighty miles and i was here it's a good job is we do the same thing in the united states so that's we just don't have different school buildings and i'm going to college educated it's not ragged they go out on america ok and train america you were free to pick the choice of college or not college that you can enjoy that is not true we can't go back and not only for intel but as a parent i could a challenge the teachers you know they said we want to put this we want to put your son into the college prep class i could have said no i want him in the vocational education class they were not always having a government bureaucrat tell you your kid shouldn't go you have well it's the same thing in the united states you want to have had my column and i would rather go to your classes in classes you know in advance placement class just sit in my last

student loan payment this month so i just got out of this debt and graduations on you for making enough money to get out when i went through school i chose an expensive college and i chose it because it had small little classes because if i went to the big school i wouldn't have graduated it took me longer to graduate i went in more debt than i should and i don't think you should have to pay for me making this weird decision no and here they for you doing that if it meant that my country was more innovative that there was more tax revenue down the down the road that we. could do good stuff with we could go go back to a conversation about putting men on the moon and things like that you know it's. been a nail let's move it we just have three minutes left in a move that has progressives all over the world watching with eager anticipation finland in january launched a two year pilot program to provide two thousand unemployed citizens a universal basic income of four hundred seventy five dollars

a month very theoretical but universal basic income that the one thing that i would think would get both of you guys in support of this is that if you set the u.b.i. at just a little above what the maximum that anybody could make if they maxed out all the welfare programs available you could do away with probably hundreds of state and federal programs and replace them with one single u.b.i. you have a huge huge war you guys vids all would be perfect yeah well. you know well farai everybody in the country should have at least ten fifteen thousand dollars a year in income so that there's a floor that they don't fall through every no matter what president capable of working and earning income should be expected to do so you know sarah pailin did this and in el last go on the road to syria they all want i don't care who did it every person capable of work should be expected to do so and the rest of us who pay for the people who don't will be cheerful about doing it why we're not cheerful is

because we're expected not just to pay for the people who can't work we're expected to pay for the people who won't work if you want to be an artist starve like you're expected to throughout history don't expect me to pay the bill for that those social as you are is the standards of the fourteenth century charo well i mean look if we look at the minimum wage hike in seattle right that ended up causing the boom to me that did not boom the not even that i'm just how he has been totally debunked and if. they were it i would look at it in a way of sincere that is the wave of left likes looking at science i know. so that when the study comes out that's actually scientifically based done by the people that one notices. there have there are two studies one says a job one the other is what i did in one done by berkeley where i'm going to tell you i was what every single study that berkley's research is going to say today tomorrow and next year not a debate about you know why this economy is made about going away just about

universal basic income everything you know do it like sarah palin doesn't alaska every man woman and child was minimum wage is better than i would be i every year that she realized it's paid because they tap into oil and gas that's why every time they've gone to university something and alas no no it's not their universal basic income absolutely the same in plan for every one stakeholder as an as a said ok you get the last word or us and that's the way it is and thank you for being with us thank you and that's the way it is and i know forget the marker see is not a spectator sport get out there get active tag your.

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mainstream media has met its maker. ok there i once a friend was the boss broadcasting around the world from washington d.c. tonight the institute of international finance says the global debt now rests at three hundred twenty seven percent of the world's annual economic output we look at who may be at fault here also italy have borne the brunt of the. refugee crisis it's now threatened to slam the brakes on accepting more in the midst of its own economic crisis my guests and i talk about guaranteed government jobs versus federal basic encumber his the current welfare system we delve into the ideas thrown around and whether any real change is likely to take place then by us starts right now.

goldman sachs is making big changes to the front page of its website it's now included an explanation of block chain to potential customers the firm describes block chain a series of recorded digital transactions as a technology of trust saying that it will combine the openness of the internet with security of cryptography there's been good reason though for a lot of caution for crypto currencies they're still comparatively untested and volatile on top of this they're currently decentralized entities making them susceptible to massive cyber attacks and privacy invasion. full days ago the chiefs

of major tech firms converged on the white house for a party of sorts to discuss technologies impacts on the economy workforce and federal id infrastructure as well as emerging technology some big wigs showed up much to the chagrin of customers employees pundits and protesters including the ever present resists movement my guest says this protest approach is counterproductive and that it's losing steam when facing big business and big money i sat down with patrice on luke a senior fellow at the independent women's forum to discuss. when we consider that there was a. kind of a campaign to get the c.e.o.'s not to come to washington d.c. last week for the tax summit and they still came and we're talking about jeff bezos from amazon we're talking about tim cook at it from apple like some really big names were in the room and we rewind back to last fall even after the election before the election one hundred fifty c.e.o.'s in the tech sector they signed an

open letter openly against president trump you know the candidate trying to time and you know we saw some big names also kind of sit out some of the white house early white house discussions around tack and business leaders. he resigned as you know for a number of mistreatment accusations but i think what we're seeing is these c.e.o.'s are looking at not just the short term but the long term you know this administration is pushing forward with a pretty aggressive agenda and they want to not be left out of the table walked out of the discussions they want to be a part of shaping the policy and i think it's important to realize here these are not nonprofits these are big business guys a lot of them are great places to work they have great benefits they're coming out with progressive products but they're not a nonprofit they want to capitalize and move forward and they're going to do this and i think that a lot of people take their progressive message and don't want to actually realize

that this is business and in all its ugliest forms would you agree with that well i mean think about what companies exist for for profit and that's not a bad thing in your service making money exactly where enriching the lives of consumers like us you know and so they're thinking through you know when you look at some of the items that are coming out infrastructure there's a huge the opportunity for broadband access or expansion across the country so if you're interested in that that's an area for you to be the internet of things. there's a really interesting movement to think about how do we shape policy around that and if you're thinking if you're an amazon if you're a big company. it is producing. products that are wired products that are connected to the internet products that are making people's lives better but leveraging infrastructure you don't want to be on the back end of hearing about policy changes that are going to fundamentally affect your business model and if you don't do it someone's going to do it and if you do it right you can be instilling confidence in your customers in

a lot of people so let's talk about the optics here we've seen people bal out of that sort of inner circle of what trump is trying to gather because of the optics what customers say whatever their employees say how do you think how important is that going forward for these people as you said candidate trump you know brought those people into the room after he was elected. how do you think this is either going to. roll off people's bags or if they're still going to take it seriously as far as the c.e.o.'s meeting in the room sort of terms i mean there is they they're thinking again about what they're trying to accomplish you know from a business perspective and so i'm not going to downplay the importance of employee satisfaction employees perspectives and even their customers perspectives i mean a revolt by your customers can have a huge impact on what you decide to do you or what invitations to the white house you decide to take but they're thinking through things like tax reform which silicon valley has been pushing for because they're thinking about all the money that the revenue they earn overseas and how to bring it back here to them and

states without having a huge tax burden tax bill so they're thinking ok we have an opportunity here to not just increase our bottom line but also allow us to expand our businesses by getting on the ground floor when it comes to these policy discussions to go along with what you've said you know apple gets maybe less than one percent business tax environment right we've got. the head of apple ten cook talking about really liking some of donald trump's agenda ideas meanwhile mark zuckerberg attend these meetings that ironic to you because. ireland's getting it ireland is giving out a great deal still he wants in on this well the official statement is that there was a conflict of interest for mr zuckerberg you know i do think it was interesting that we didn't seize twitter's c.e.o. there we didn't see it facebook c.e.o. there and these are very big media companies you know i think they're making a calculated decision about you know. going to whether you go it alone whether you

decide which meetings to show up to where do you send your maybe your. lobbyist to rather than yourself being in a photo op with the president so if you think that all of your patronage here. you will him something he says oh we're going to work with you but you owe me this. president is not known to have said that do you think people are a bit gun shy if they were eventually with president obama for the same reason then they would be but i don't see that i don't see that and when you look at the obama administration president obama worked really closely with silicon valley he had to call in the tech cops the techies to rescue health care dot gov the obamacare website when it when it crashed and so there's there's always been that kind of relationship i think what last week's meeting did not just from a policy perspective was from relationship healing perspective you know to say you know this silicon valley needs to be part of the idea of modernizing washington d.c. and it's tech infrastructure but also you know thinking through how are these policies

that are coming out of washington what affect us. since the beginning of your regular crisis it's italy that mostly bore the brunt after years of feeling ignored by the e.u. the mediterranean country. is now threatening to stop accepting refugees for she joins me in the studio for more on that bianca hasn't the number of refugees actually relatively decreased over the years it has so you know compared to twenty sixteen and twenty fifteen the amount of refugees going to europe has dropped but a majority of the ones i have travelled in twenty seventeen to europe have gone to italy so italy isn't feeling relief like other things are which is why if they're looking at different methods to deal with it now because of its location italy has always acted as an entry point to europe for refugees but for the past few years

the sheer amount of refugees arriving has taken a toll so big that the government is threatening to shut down the ports the possibility was discussed at a meeting between the sorry serves as italy's ambassador to the e.u. and e.u. migration commissioner dimitris ever marvelous in a statement said quote italy is right when it comes to being when it comes to the situation being untenable in fact just over ninety two thousand refugees arrived to europe by sea in two thousand and seventeen of that total almost eighty four thousand of them ended up in italy so most people would agree that the italians need a break but closing off the ports for refugees might not be an easy fix disembarkation is governed by international law which could make for complicated legal problems ahead the move would also for ships to change their sailing routes in particular vessels the coast guard frontex and nations participating in the anti-smuggling

mission operation sophia could technically be banned too it's a situation that would definitely concern the united nations considering the criminal activity that's forest in the wake of the crisis earlier this year the un's migration agency or into refugees being sold at modern day slave auctions in libya it's not just the threat of human traffickers that refugees have to worry about despite the best efforts of aid organizations that conditions at official and unofficial refugee centers are often understaffed with very little resources but at a meeting next week migration officials are expected to discuss italy's dilemma and figure out what to do. figure out what to do it's going to be more complicated than people thought it was like hello are here according to our president how the aid groups responded to this big efforts they're also hemmed in by a lot of right so all the aid groups are clearly very program except and so they're disappointed by hearing italy's saying that they might not accept as many refugees

as they have been for the past few years i don't think it's much of a surprise because italy in addition to greece have really been incredibly overwhelmed compared to the other nations so it's not that they can say they're totally shocked by it but you know these aid groups are saying the reason we have to bring the men is because if we don't we risk them all drowning out at sea and then we're spending our time doing more risk exactly so you know they're not happy about it and i think they're definitely going to be involved in talks moving forward with the e.u. officials but they would you know it's not the best situation right now but they certainly don't want to turn any people away of course the u.n. announced that lots of syrians for turn to their homes what can you tell us about that it's an interesting little even think about it is but four hundred forty thousand syrians have returned home after being internally displaced so these are people that didn't end up leaving the country they just had to run out of their affairs in the road over. well that and i'm in addition to that thirty one thousand

who did actually the country went back so it's a very small odd glimmer of hope i mean it's good to hear these things but as we know syria is just in most parts not safe to go back to so it's partially good news but still concerning for most aid groups and the e.u. yeah that's that's a very surprising news about that thank you so much. we're going to head to break now but stick around because when we get back the institute of international finance of the global that now rests at three hundred twenty seven percent of the world annual economic. boom bust is back in a month. that's

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a bit on the hay ride with the let's talk a little bit bored you say if you ever miss the things the best quarterback. expert on the topic doesn't belong here now i did did you do to question more. borrowing sprees in the developing world has spurred a surge in global debt levels to a record two hundred seventeen trillion dollars according to the institute of international finance this is position to global debt at three hundred twenty seven percent of global economic output or g.d.p. as one of the most authoritative trackers of capital flows the war and that three trillion dollars in a jump now creates a danger of short term debt repayments to emerging markets according to the

i.a.f.f. in some cases this sharp debt build up has already started to become a drag on sovereign credit profiles including countries such as china and canada for its part china accounted for two trillion dollars of this rise with its that now nearly thirty three trillion dollars this coincides with the continued d. leveraging of advanced economies cutting total public and private debt by over two trillion in the past year. and the center for american progress a huge think tank on the left is pushing expanded government employment programs could be a great tool for training and employing a much needed skilled labor force in the united states but some fear it could create large an ineffective government bureaucracy handing out jobs that aren't adding value meanwhile others argue that universal basic income is the remedy to the current state of an ineffective welfare system but my guest have lena cerna economics professor and program director at bard college points out the flaws in

this and then lays out a plan check it out he jumped into proposal is not a new proposal so i'm very encouraged that they have embraced the language and some of the russian now but it seems like what they're proposing is a bit more modest than what the actual job guarantee is the job they're going to use and really is a permanent staff. by policy that offer is directed to the unemployed in good times and in bad so even in the peak of the economic cycle we have about two people per every job opening so we'd need an employment program that will capture those unemployed people as well they're targeting in by the four point four million jobs and that seems rather small. yeah. to say the very least and right now unemployment according to statistics isn't the worst we've had but it's still not great and that's a much more than that and we need out there now see if you want to train and start

apprenticeships fine but they don't guarantee private sector jobs for us to meet we need about twenty million full time jobs in today's world to have that number right what do you think about that yes some of my colleagues i believe economics institute have done a recent study that does the full count. we're looking at anywhere between twelve to twenty million full time jobs a shortage of twenty twelve to twenty million so we need to account for people who have left the labor force right after the crisis people who are working part time but need full time work. other people who are invisible to us there is pent up demand for jobs even among caregivers simply because there aren't well paying jobs and so if we were to look at really the demand for jobs we're looking at much bigger numbers well tell me about these public jobs wouldn't require an increase in government projects funding bureaucracy we know anything right now. the right

political right is taking over elections in this country we just saw for a special elections the democrats are zero for four obviously the presidential election was it was one thing how do you think the american people would ever think that increasing government projects to offer employment would work because that sounds like. what it would require to keep people publicly employed not just trained. all right i think that if anything this last election told us that people want jobs i mean that is are a heart of their economic anxiety there are other issues without a doubt but with respect to our policy agenda going forward people need work and so . given what we're already doing and how little we have how meager the expansion has been how. few jobs we've been able to create i people i think are hungry for

a lot more aggressive approach so are these going to be government jobs they can be federally funded but they can be locally administered they can be administered by nonprofit social interpret ventures there are many ways in which we can do this what's important to keep in mind is that this is a policy that compliments private sector employment the government already spends in countless cyclical ways in other words when the economy is bad the government already provides a considerable amount of stimulus. but if we were to do it through job guarantee we will simply be providing jobs to people who have been laid off that provides the stimulus to the economy we essentially eliminate jobless recoveries and as the economy recovers then people transition into private sector employment so in a sense we're not changing the function of government we already do counter

cyclical spending except we don't know how much we need to spend because we don't directly employ people but doesn't this sound a bit like i mean you're going to have to agree increase public funding for jobs are thieves jobs worthless do we need them is there a demand for these jobs are you just creating jobs where. you know so that someone can pack a lunch and go to work every day and come home with a paycheck which we all know is very important people have pride in work and a lot of people unemployed want that but can we just go about willy nilly creating jobs to guarantee a job and if not then isn't the word job guarantee a bit misleading. it's a guarantee in the sense that if somebody needs work we will provide a project that will employ them above poverty i've argued for a living wage so in that sense it's basically a promise that's what it means to be a guarantee but then

a job guarantee what kind of jobs would those be yeah what will project we're talking about we talked about building needed infrastructure are we talking about administrator or someone working in the you know the state highway program like in my state and they pay people fifty thousand dollars a year to do p.r. and make new pamphlets i mean i know people that do that and it's not necessarily something that's really needed but we do need road workers so i guess what i'm asking is these projects that people are being trained for what what what's an idea of some of those types of projects. so there are lots of socially useful is that just go unfulfilled i mean if you just look at the care gaps whether it's elder care whether it's child care whether it's community care i mean we have a lot of public squalor these jobs are for the public purpose these are socially useful jobs there are many many things that we can think of whether they're small environmental jobs like renewal cleanup whether they are small infrastructure jobs

whether they are again care care work there isn't a shortage of things that we need to get done but what we also know is that unemployment imposes enormous costs on society and we already pay for unemployment we estimate that we're foregoing we're giving up about. half a billion to ten billion dollars of output per day because we tolerate high unemployment now this is already paid for we're there also enormous costs that are associated with unemployment whether this these are health costs whether this is crime with its incarceration whether it is the urban blight and the poverty that we have to address this is paid for what i'm suggesting is that if we were to do a direct employment program that provides people with decent work at decent pay doing useful public projects that will reduce significantly the enormous

cost that we already bear right and a lot of people as you say you can fold that into. two trades and you know engineering refrigeration even all of these things that that so many people even with high school educations can vocational training math and i'm trying to say valuable vocational training that so many people can't really get a hold on if the government maybe as you said funded those things it would add so much to the projects we need now i want to talk also about what cap is targeting as an unemployment rate of our i'm sorry apply employment rate of seventy nine percent of the prime age working group that's nice do you think that's even possible. i think it is possible i i wouldn't necessarily think that this is the appropriate target i think the target is to provide work to those who need it what about the population that is not prime working age if we were to look at the national unemployment rate most economists believe that we are already at full employment

but if you actually look at county level unemployment you will find that their pockets around the country some surprising areas in fact that are not michigan or ohio that suffer from persistent ongoing depression levels of unemployment and this is ongoing even in good times so if i were to do. i will simply provide open ended job offer and i will try to get the program to these distressed communities some of these distressed communities may have elderly workers that still need work some might have young workers that have very high unemployment rates so the way that i would go about this is simply providing in a targeted way a job opportunity to anyone who wants it then people can voluntarily select into the program and only then can we know really what is the appropriate employment to population ratio that we will end up with i think the most the thing that would

actually sell this is if you the american people understood what these jobs were how much they were needed and they weren't just trying to find someone something to do for a paycheck i want to talk about a universal basic income it solves a fix to social welfare you say this concept is essentially a trojan horse can you explain that to me. well it's a giant voucher program the universal basic income promises. paycheck to anyone whether they work or not whether they are rich or poor whether the economy is doing well or not on ongoing basis so it is particular with the right because it is seen as a replacement to existing welfare programs it is popular with the corporate sector because if that represents if that actually leads to replacing some programs that might lead to privatization of some public functions so we have this model where

the corporate sector doesn't have any incentive or impetus to provide decent pay because this represents a subsidy why should a company provide let's say health benefits if somebody has a basic income voucher that can you know buy health care on the market why should we provide high pay or high wages if there is that other additional income that one could supposedly use to provide for themselves so it is a subsidy now compare this to the job guarantee the job getting to provide a decent work a distant pay if the private sector wants to hire a person in an expansion from this program they will have to match that wage benefit package and so that becomes an effective minimum wage for the economy and this could be very interesting if we hear more as this possibly develops maybe not of what these jobs would be to fill in these communities and even in their urban urban blight areas that there's there's the jobs have fled the opportunities have

fled what could be created there thank you so much for coming on and talking to me about this forgot to bring you want to talk about this more very soon probably not . associate professor of economics and migrant chair at bard college thank you. a guest on the alex jones show has actually made nasa released a statement about life on the planet mars according to media reports former cia case officer robert steele went on the show claiming that for the last twenty years oh heavens children have been kidnapped and sent to mars to live and work as slave labor in a statement released to the daily beast nasa spokesperson guy webster said quote there are no humans on mars there are active rovers on mars there was a rumor going around last week that there weren't there are but there are no humans this comes days after a photo from mars made the rounds online with people claiming that it showed alien bone fragments in the dirt this is not deterred nasa however from trying to send

people to mars with the estimates of the first manned mission could take place in fourteen years i guess we'll know about those martian earthlings when and if we land. that's all for now check out the show on youtube youtube dot com slash the star t.v. thanks for watching the next time. we're going to war so you on the idea that dropping bombs brings to the trigger or forcing you to fight the battle. you socks for the so you get the because the public. eye is telling me you are not pulling out like. a bull or we.

want. your launching our team got special report. this bugs me but that's by basically everything that you think you know about civil society have broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be dismissed on the normalising mind. we don't need people that think like this on our planet. this is an incredibly tense situation. trailblazing. as soon as i could express myself i knew i was a girl i gravitated toward barbie dolls dresses everything and you know with the

love and support of my family i was able to be the girl that you see here today it's really hard sometimes especially online people are saying things like burn in hell your boy. or girl just you know when i kind of just motivates me to continue. then i guess i have to putting myself out there i would kind of like a hard. look in his eyes and say you know i'm here speaking on behalf of the translator you why do you have to treat us this way. and we just want to be happy and we deserve to be treated equally and we are plus how did you deal with discrimination with two fests. my kid at the school had a problem with. doctors i put in attorneys i put in specialists like i was going to let anybody tell my kids somebody that.

jazz jennings the sixteen year old you to blog or active is a public speaker and television personality jazz is one of the young there's publicly documented people to identify as transgender and has since become a national figure for activism on advancement she's been named to time magazine's twenty five most influential teens huffington post fearless teens list and is the recipient of the call of courage award jazz along with her parents co-founded the trans kids purple rainbow foundation which aims to assist transgender youth we'll talk about that later the third season overhit deals. the show i am jazz premier is june twenty seventh at nine pm and later we'll be joined by jackson's mother jeanette and jazz why did you come up with the show why was it important to make it

well we we knew that transgender youth in society weren't fully accepted and transgender people in general face a lot of hate and intolerance so we just wanted to normalize what i'm going through as a transgender teenager to show people that i'm just a regular teenage girl who goes through normal teenage problems and you know it's ok to be transgender just live your life authentically be yourself and be proud of who you are so do we know the whole many transgender youth usually was transgender is i've interviewed quite a few there are adults yeah but there are many transgender youth out there and i feel like our voices aren't often heard and that's why a lot of people don't see these transgender youth but more and more are coming out and stepping out of the shadows and i feel like we need to be there to place protections untill out these youth to thrive rather than you know suppress them an order we see in season three in season three you'll see my bond grow with my family and me hanging out with my friends but most of all it focuses on the bottom surgery

which is now a big part of my life and it kind of explores the different problems that i go through with that you'll see in the season that i go like on consultations with doctors and it's a fun journey i say i'm on the search for america's next top giant. are you worried about it i mean obviously dangerous surgery there are with any procedure there are complications so i mean i think my mom's more worried than i am but for the most part i'm just excited i feel like this is the last step to complete who i am as a person and you know i know i'm a girl but this kind of just confirms that you know i'm ready what type of reception have you gotten for us on it's been the poaching. we have had a lot of positive feedback a lot of people have said that they didn't know what it meant to be transgender prior to watching the show but after seeing my family story they were able to realize oh transgender people are just like everyone else they are people too and

also transgender individuals transgender youth in particular have said that the show has guided them down the right path through their own journey and i'm glad that we could kind of be an example of you know what it means to be transgender or your name as a boy my birth name was geron j r o n when did john know he was different as soon as i could express myself i knew i was a girl i was two years old walking around and telling my mom that i was a girl i was a girl and i gravitated towards barbies dolls dresses everything feminine and you know with the love and support of my family i was able to thrive and be the girl that you see here today as a teenager who you are trying to do boys on this is interesting because i consider myself as pansexual which means that i don't necessarily have a preference when it comes to attraction in terms of gender or gender identity or sexual orientation i just love people for their soul and who they are so i'm really

attracted to everyone personality when you had these feelings when you had the male genetics gender what was it like it was really hard for me because i i was so young at the time but i knew that i was different i wouldn't want to leave the house in boys' clothes i knew that this wasn't who i truly was on the inside and you know society didn't fully understand how could this child be transgender how could this child know that they were girl but i persevered and i kept insisting that i was feminine that i was a girl and i wanted to live my life as who i am so. yes i'm the youngest of four so i had two brothers they're twins and they're nineteen and then i was sister she's twenty one and the two brothers are mayo and the system. yes how did you or the youngest how did your parents respond to your telling them this so when they first saw what i was going through and struggling with my gender identity they were

confused they thought i was going through a phase that i would grow out of it and that i would eventually you know revert back to boyish things but when i was so persistent in my actions and stating that i was a girl they knew that this wasn't a phase and that they had to just love and support me so when i was three years old they took me to a specialist and i was diagnosed with what's now called gender dysphoria and from that moment on they just knew they had to follow my lead listen to what i had to say and ensure that i was happiness by providing me that i was happy by providing me unconditional love so you saw the discrimination you know i definitely have you know people aren't fully accepting and they don't really understand what it means to be transgender and this could cause you know comments of hatred and cruelty to merge and i it's really hard sometimes especially online people are saying these things like burning to hell your boy why are you even living a life as a journalist stupidity yeah and i think people are just ignorant and you know when

i see those comments it kind of just motivates me to continue sharing my story i'm like ok if you don't get it then i guess i have to keep putting myself out there when you went to first grade we will boy. so basically i officially transition when i was five years old and i was going to cannot garden at a new school so basically we thought it would be like a fresh start so they didn't know him at the kindergarten no one knew but i was pretty open about my story especially since when i was six years old i appeared on two thousand and twenty with barbara walters so it was very public knowledge at that point so people knew and. what the hell yeah i mean yeah i just lived in my truth now there are guesses jazz jennings after the break we'll talk about the fight for the rights maybe a little politics and later we'll be joined by jazz is mother jeanette stay with us live this year but people. are going back to look i don't have

a party thank god i'm home. as miss like winter weather it's rough it does get a little bit colder a burden off and. i'm really glad that i could spend this time with skyler she just couldn't really comprehend what it's like to be transgender in some of the things i'm experiencing so how's your college search going i think i might be going in state for my freshman year of college and then probably transfer after are you going to have your bottom surgery by next year yeah actually this doing this through summer my god that's so soon i know you say that i'm so excited that's amazing all i'm jealous so are your parents holy supportive of your choice i think it's always been a lingering thought since i came out i think they've been mentally preparing themselves and i think that they have been ready for me to tell them when i was ready i mean a lot of sense back with jazz jennings i am jazz premier's june twenty seventh that

in its third season good day to day life does it ever have obstacles definitely you know being transgender it's a challenge in and of itself every day on social media i received hate comments people who say terrible things or in person people just school say things to my face like you're a boy or you're a freak and you know every day can be a struggle but i i think i have a pretty thick skin and i have the love and support of my family i'm lucky so therefore i've been able to move past it and just stay strong why do you read those things i try not to read the comments i. at all that's our number one rule my family don't read the comments but every now and then it just kind of pops up and you know all the state of the news you've come a long way baby and certainly l g b t has come a long way in them are you surprised at how fast is seemingly fast it's becoming generally accepted i'm really happy that people are really opening up their minds

and seeing that l g b t q individuals are just like everyone else we are all people down to the core and we should realize that despite our differences we are all the same and we should just embrace those unique qualities and kind of unite the society and really love one another what are doctors say is that chemical is that it. was so on what is it. sickly so there's been different theories and stuff like that but some people say that it could be. basically something that happens in the womb that causes someone to be transgender but honestly it doesn't even matter to me all that scientific stuff i know i'm i was biologically born male but it doesn't really matter because on the inside i knew i was a girl and being a girl makes me happy and i just who i am so i will just let me live on top of their genes you know all the genes or oh yeah i have a lot of friends who are teenagers who are our elderly t.q.

or are transgender girls who become boys yet every moment you regretted coming out . i've never regretted coming out not at all i mean this is just who i am as a person and i'm so lucky that i was able to transition early and have the love and support my family and you know there's no regrets why would i look back you know have you ever had a regret and looked back and thought you should have been a girl like me you know i never planned i never thought i should have been a more mostly because of high heels you. know their struggle president trump when the regionally north carolina had the problem with tea and bathrooms said he had no problem with us and any of his hotels any gender good use any bathroom any time they want and he is says changed his tune how do you feel about that well yeah he didn't really keep that promise he rescinded obama's directive and that was something that greatly affected my community specifically you know transgender

youth because without that protection in school we are vulnerable and i feel like the school environment is somewhere where we should be able to thrive and not have to worry about simple things like the bathroom but it creates this unsafe environment and makes it so much more difficult and i think by staying strong as a community we can hopefully move past this you go to a ladies room school of course i do no one questions that you know if you had the chance to meet with president trump would you say to him going god i would say so many different things. i think most of all i would i would kind of have like a heartfelt moment with him look in his eyes and say you know i'm here speaking on behalf of the transgender youth why do you have to treat us this way we are just kids and we just want to be happy and we deserve to be treated equally and respected for who we are who says you've had it and you have the show and you can do you encourage other people going through this difficult time to come out. i

think that it's important that we let our voices be heard you know hiding in the shadows isn't going to get us anywhere i want everyone to be able to be proud of who they are and love themselves and share that love and pride with the community beyond them obviously there are safety obstacles for some people and then other individuals don't have the support of their family or parents and you know could potentially be kicked out of their home so it's really really difficult and i think we need to look closely at those struggles and try to support those people more and more but instead we're focusing on other things you know of the problem of people a table in general do you know or i've met kill him before yeah does it make you feel good to know that things are changing so rapidly yeah i'm glad that you know i think after caitlin jenner came out with her story that almost everyone knew what it meant to be transgender almost everyone knew what that word was and i think it

created more you know visibility for our community and show that we exist and that we want equality and change to happen. after a break we'll be joined by jazz is mother jeanette the show is jazz is on t.l.c. . don't click away. the feel we can. get it on the old. according to. come along for the raw. data.

jennings is our guest i am jazz third season we're now joined by her mother jeanette jennings do you get involved in her show i guess i do i do a pretty good mom don't i. didn't shoot the show right in our hometown in south florida ok take us back you have three other children two twin boys and

a daughter older yes they're both boys are boys and the girls are sister so. what happened when and how did she approach this with you. she came out i always say singing in tunes like hey i'm here and i'm jazz and i want to hear all the sooner she could verbalize and she spoke very young like she would even crawl towards girly things when she could speak she would say i want dolls i want dress up i want everything that's girly like never acted like a boy and extremely feminine i thought ok we're going to have a gay kid here because she was i've. got a gig i thought at first like your husband yeah i was. probably going to get more about the siblings they were so little they didn't really understand they just were like well how come he's not acting like a boy because that's the way he wants to be he wants to act like a girl just let it be but he was still or he just backed down and he when did you. no that he wanted to be a she really. think just mentioned it when we took her to

a professional at the age of three and they confirmed what i already thought that she was transgender at that point a professional event doctor psychologists who had a lot of experience in this area and said you know what i truly believe your child is transgender but i can't help her because i don't treat children i've never seen a three year old who's transgender but at least we were validated knew that you know this wasn't a fades because at first we thought it was a phase and we told them to it i just want to her be happy and i saw a child suffering not being able to express herself as she was she really was and if this would make her happy that's what i wanted for her when i read the suicide side attempt rates being so high i close to fifty percent but i'm not going to play russian roulette with my child's life i'm going to do what's best for her and by you has room he's the same as me took him a little longer but like maybe a month longer he's very open minded and very accepting of both the siblings there are two i guess it's just family like they just love jazz and that's their little

sister and the oldest one she was a little bit hesitant at first because she was like i'm the only girl on the princess and then we explained how serious this wasn't she's like ok i'm going to love her forever you close to your sister yeah i'm super close to my sister but aunts uncles relatives in the beginning after say not everybody was open to it it was harder for some than others right now it's been you know so long since she's transition that everybody's on board now but in the beginning the pronoun some people weren't ready to switch over completely took a few years how did you deal with discrimination. i just fought with two fists nobody messes with my kid of the school had a problem i went into the school i brought in doctors i brought in attorneys are born and specialists like i was going to let anybody tell my kid she was somebody that she wasn't she said you worried about her possibly having the operation because you know what parent doesn't worry about their kid having major surgery. i'm this is you know she's going under the knife for a long period of time and there's no turning back i mean this is seriously that was

going to do it i know she's going to ask you years ago i wasn't sure but now i know where you were is destroying our present current president that she is i would say . i don't get into politics too much and i'm not very happy with what i've seen right now what are you both a good as discrimination in the community or do you think it's rapidly changing. i thought for a long time we were making a lot of progress and you know with the change of administration things definitely were pushed back a little bit but i feel like the more more we stay strong and stay connected as the l.g.b. t.q. community that we can help you know prevent this discrimination from occurring and we could put the positive message out there we were apprehensive about your daughter going as public. yes initially it took a long time for us to come to terms with it we didn't want to do it and when she was six she was invited to go on with barbara walters and we were like no we're not

doing this and then after a few months of realizing that nobody was going to speak out about this we we felt it was the time as you support her doing the show yes if she did want to do it i've done it what's the trans kids purple rainbow phone they should that's our foundation where we raise money to help odds transgender children in their suffering and we use the money to go to composite likely put together a whole yearly party for transgender kids from all over the country and canada so we just want to put smiles on faces of kids that are discriminated more than anybody else how do people get more information about it when you can visit the website trans kids perino dot org and also just you know look us up we have a facebook page as well and you know strands kids purple rain mobile phone data. when you started this and started hearing from people were you surprised at how many there were i was like when we came. we don't know of many other people of little kids and right after we came out all the support groups started popping up

online and they all had little ones like jazz and like oh jeez we're all alone we're not the only ones who have a transgender kindergartner like if felt good to know that there's others in the same boat with transgender friends yeah i definitely have a lot of transgender friends there are many a lot yeah i do have a lot i've met many people over the years at different conferences and you know i they're also amazing you know we're just kids and we just want to live our lives and when we're with each other we have this commonality and we understand one another on a different level and it's really cool everyone at school more on i think everyone at school pretty much knows and i'm sure there are two boys treat you. it's definitely an interesting situation because a lot of guys don't really talk to me because i'm transgender i don't have any experience dating really and i don't do that some of them much i mean i'm only done like a little bit but you know at school people kind of. any jokes. what

you mean jeff will make jokes yes people do make jokes about me. when i was younger there were rumors spread and people called me a chick with and stuff like that so how did you handle it i went to the school complained. made a big stink about it and you know parents were brought in and i just want to protect her when she was in elementary school she wasn't allowed to use the bathroom for five years. has had a weekend warrender girl. you know i'm super proud to be a girl you know this is just who i am and you know i am proud of the fact that i'm transgender i wouldn't change it for the world because if i wasn't trenchant i wouldn't be sitting here right now sharing my story being the strong person that i am today and it's made me a confident person and a person with pride and i'm proud to be a part of this movement and to just be myself and allow other people to be themselves as well you know mother has departed because she thinks hold a question should go to her daughter from social media as they do alan j.

on the larry king now blog is it's. pride month across america are you participating i've been doing a lot for pride month we have been going to different community events and actually a few days ago we were just at a different festival and there's been pride parades and everything so it's been really fun and nancy is on the larry king now blog on this on this season of i am jaz you were interviewed by conservative host tommy lauren what was that like. it was tense definitely you know i felt like i was walking into anime territory and it was a very conservative yeah she's already she young to she's pretty young she's in her early twenty's i would say and it was a scary situation where there's no show done in dallas but i think it got cancelled miles all are now but so what happened so basically i did an interview with her and she's known for her very like aggressive approach to talking about these issues and

you know you have to see on the show but. you know i'm not going to reveal any spoilers short on your show yes it's on i'm gas. did you get we must of had some sort of there is definitely tension and disputes you think you might have changed your mind. i don't know if i was fully able to change your mind but you have to see ok demon hodge on twitter what advice is help you the most so far in life. i think you know the advice provided to me by my family they have told me that it's all about unconditional love and i feel like that's helped me the most because it shows me that you just really have to love who you are as a person and then share that love with other people and the world beyond you jan vague so on facebook how are you liking fame. honestly i would definitely consider myself as like a private person and i know you chose to go public and i don't like attention that

much really so it's hard for me to you know be in this folly and have the cameras in my frees but i always say that if it can met if it other people then i'm willing to share my story demonology on twitter how do you deflect bullying. honestly i just don't let it get to me i i don't care what people think about me if you're going to judge me without fully understanding the continent my character then who are you to say these negative things so their opinion doesn't matter and honestly just motivates me because it shows that there's still ignorance present in our world third is it painful emotionally. not necessarily because you know these people they don't know me so why by going to take their opinion to heart you know i get more affected when people that do know me and who i care about say something negative about me but that doesn't happen that much coriander said on the larry king now blog what's the biggest misconception about transgender people that you

hear oh there are so many different misconceptions that people have i think one of the biggest ones i hear is how did you know that you were transgender you were too young to make that decision because you know as soon as i could express myself i was two years old saying i'm a girl i'm a girl i'm people don't think that two year olds even have concepts of gender but that's not true because little kids they gravitate towards feminine things or boyish things and you know it's not like i transitioned right at that moment we did and saw that it wasn't a phase so i mean and i think another misconception is also that it wasn't a choice a lot of people think i decided one day that i wanted to be a girl but it wasn't really like that it was i was a girl right from the start i was born this way so very different from the homosexuals yes the gay men who i've interviewed many times i do use a sergeant who won the silver medal silver star in world war in the korean war he was homosexual like mad but never wanted to be and yeah because gender

identity and sexual orientation are two completely different things generally dennehy is who you want to be and sexual orientation is who you like sheryl swoopes to whoever the king novel are when you. college will be a major oh my god i haven't even thought about that i honestly have no idea what i want to be when i can older so i'm just going with it where do you see yourself in ten years. what do you want to the you have to have some for but i really have no idea i know that i just want to do what makes me happy i like being creative and doing artistic things though probably something like that but i definitely definitely think i'll continue sharing my story you know i always say that i'm going to put my message out there for as long as it's needed and you know right now i definitely think our voices need to be heard as a transgender community and i'm going to continue sharing my story to create positive change just like to marry and be

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