maybe and. a lot of times the more interesting situations were the ones that are. you know it's what you mind that around people's. perspective becomes like a situation so horribly depressed perspective is not only important but also you. know your strengths know where you can contribute don't just. you know visit

cameras but don't. do it unless you have something to say you're head of your time . you know you never really know that so you. know been other people go. oh you know what. plus. you're going to be larger than just feeling well. thank you very. well the larry king now special guest. comedian actor writer known for the neighbors franchise and his two h.b.o. comedy specials geraud can be seen this summer in transformers the last night cynthia's june twenty third he's also co-creator and star of the carmichael show now in his study here on n.b.c.

the critically acclaimed sitcom airs whedon's days at nine pm eight central. are you a comedian in the transformers attic of provide comic relief i haven't seen the movie yet so i'm saying it may help with fun i hope it's funny i think i'm funny good part of the comedy show come about it was a long process i did it created a couple friends and sold it to a lot of n.b.c. i've been meaning we've just been on the air for like a couple years but i may have been working on n.b.c. since like two thousand and twelve i believe i'm not the only two thousand and eleven two thousand and twelve so it's been like a long process pretty young i will start young yeah i mean i think i found perspective pretty early you know i think that's kind of the key for a comedian you know you have to have a point of view you know that's the most important thing you can develop and i think i've kind of developed one a little early so we started doing television in any wire color comedy also t.v.'s

boulders sit music prize the network took that. i think is what they want to do you think is i mean that could just be me projecting right but i really do think that you know like a comedies that are like adult and honest in conversation i think that people are excited to do that i think they're cautious you know it's corporations and people cautious but i think people are excited but you take on gun control bill cosby mental illness yeah yeah just i mean real things i don't want to a so that didn't sound like real life norman lear affected you oh yeah absolutely he's been here he's a great guy he's incredible he's a you know talking to him about it i mean he's just like you write what you know right people you know if you write it yeah how are the biographical as it's more so perspective the things that happened you know like it was and i don't take

situations from my family but i take a lot of perspective and just kind of exaggerated and and have fun with it and be she stays struggled in the ratings. m b c i think is figuring out its comedy brand you know in d.c. is. in a place of redevelopment which is kind of what i was attracted to in d.c. in the first place it was an only pitch to n.b.c. because i was only going to sell the same d.c. because i was unable to show for in d.c. you know and it's that yeah yeah and i did you know i just did a deal with universal because i was like yeah they think you can think you know pitch to other places but i knew in d.c. to be first and as the only place i was going to do a show i was it just want to do what serious topics are you taking on this season. the first episode we taped was the one about. my grandmother lets us know she has

all simas and then she decides that she's going to end own life and it's a comedy is the comedy really hope it airs next week will. see if people live she's going to kill herself which is going to go she has old yeah yeah yeah funny how many funny funny ever so surprising like the situations never like a lot of times the more interesting situations that are ones that aren't funny you know it's when you mine around that around people's view when their perspective on it becomes funny but like the situation so it's horribly depressing you think they sort of find more success see a third year. and promoting it we were on netflix that helps tremendously netflix is you know it is television or you don't i mean why do they aren't exams it is it's where people. you know just kind of go to go to immediately it's this huge database thing so that helped out a lot you come up first on netflix and then on n.b.c.

the first two seasons on netflix and people find it a lot of people found it since then i mean only since march of this year been on the air. you know but that's because it's kind of replace what networks used to do were summer reruns you know you will grow your audience you know especially comedies and in the summer but now you know it's more cost effective for them to do like reality programming in that type of thing so you know if you're thankful for outlets like netflix like hulu that can provide. a resource for you showed us who right now thank you and you we understand the show is a realization of a lifelong dream of yours the hour we want to show on n.b.c. that was kind of a. parting at what age i think i was like eleven to twelve i used to tell my brother my family i wanted to show on n.b.c. because a lot of my favorite souls were on the everything from i watch television with my

parents or watch shears and because michelle when you watch you know different world and you watch seinfeld and we watch all these things and i was i want to be on that fresh prince is on that. and that was kind of the go i wanted thursday nights at eight you know you know wednesdays nine it's fun you know where you have it all airy where'd you go up north carolina a kid in north carolina is dreaming of being on thursday nights on n.b.c. it would fit in good for you ahead of your time. you know you never really know that so you're dead right. then you don't know then other people go they look back and they track in the ahl you know what. we needed him now well said you've talked about trump on the comic the show the talking not talk about right now everyone to i say everyone in america talks about of at least once a day he's the new vietnam. does he come up in the third season a little. truthfully what with that said i don't talk about him

a lot in this one because i don't think there's a new take on it you know well you know what can you say yeah a lot of you know a lot of things have been said you know a lot of comedy shows they take this means i don't you know in late night it's only late night and you know it becomes the think you become inundated with trump jokes and again that you can't help it i guess and so immediate and important so i understand it but i don't think there's a new take on it that you know that kind of remains to be seen what i'm more interested in is is how we affect culture and how he you know affects us and how we react and i need to work a motional reaction to and what are you concerns about him there well you know it's funny it's politics in general i mean we've kind of eliminated nuance. you know i mean that's kind of why have fun with the show everything becomes. it's hard even

to read the papers you know because it's like every every headline is increasingly sassier and like it increasingly it is just like and we're all just kind of everyone's a comedian now to get out of the way it's like a bad sit com yeah yeah it really is and everyone's taken a swing and i get it but it's just exhausting you know it's making us a little bit less nuanced and it's you know because you do have this immediate strong emotional reaction to you know things that happen but i think it requires a little patience so seriously though you grew up poor yeah i grew up very poor yet i just think trump will have an impact on poor america oh of course every president you know like that's that's who's affected first they you know you know you take the hit first when you're at that at that level financially it's hard jackie gleason my idea of the great jackie gleason told me he was poor but he didn't know it was for to late that because everyone around them was for jim but oh you were

poor oh you know no no no we were well aware well aware well you know you i think the internet television all these things kind of eliminate the we don't know because like because we just stared at rich people all of a yo yo we don't have any of that you know. the hollywood reporter reason to describe you is one of the great up and coming voices in standup. when did you start stand up two thousand and eight start in two thousand and eight i. didn't start in north carolina started in l.a. because it's more competitive the market is more competitive so yeah it does do you like it as much as that come television character television it kind of shifts you know i didn't take the special in december we started production in january i didn't do standup i mean i've done stand up maybe five or six times this year which

is soul small any and especially for me i was going up every night of the week you know and so it's a different thing give you focus kind of shift so the focus on the show in the shows over and then we focus on something else does you know stand up i do a lot of comedy make a lot of speeches and yeah all about bad things are good you got good timing but that always watch the you always had a thing they had on me i was discuss. things that at the time they happen more and funny but are now funny when not you know as foxhole uma what do you have a perspective in your stand up yeah that's the most important thing you know where do you stand in all of this where do you fit in why do we need you for this joke you know i mean like it's a long way from the catskills where i am i shift things around you know like it's like why do we need you for this joke how do you even know about the catskills you're thirty years old yeah you know you got to know your history you got to know

the history of comedy you got to know the catskills the way you got to know that certain circuit where you got to know all these things important you know you know what it is and also to know how things evolve so you can contribute to you you've had to stand up specials on h.b.o. right you've pretty much patterned your own career right i mean you've. been an agency behind you has this i mean is there are an energy there is involved with you how have you done this it's a it's a it's a partnership anybody you work with you you're partnering with an agency you're partnering with these people to try and develop something again i think perspective is not only important in the art but also for your career like know your strengths know where you can contribute don't do things just to do them don't you know there's a million cameras but don't just go do it unless you have something to say others your family feel about your success. i mean we asking about money they're

static. over the moon over the moon larry we're still in north carolina they're also in the field i just i was there up until last night i just flew and got in like middle who's in the family. it's a lot of us now because i have four nieces and nephew and so i have my brother and sister in law who's like a sister to me and you found new cousins since that guy social media and you change a number that's the thing that's what happens you'll be everyone's one check away from the new thing up next we'll be talking fan encounters and draws upcoming role in the snow movie. we'll be right back. i'm tom hartman and i'll give you what the mainstream media can't tell the big picture we'll go deeper investigate and debate all so you can get the big picture.

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out in the end you could never hear on. so much parking all the world all the world all the world's a stage and we are definitely a player. in malls and yeah he's very successful he's geraud comical and he'll be seen and transformers the last night june twenty third is when the premier's what what what what are you in who are who are you transformers. jimmy in transformers it's. it was funny it was a really fun experience you know like i was jimmy do jimmy is a i like to say he's kind of like actually to me if i were in that movie you know like the same way i was kind of overwhelmed just as about our real person just stumbled onto the set and just kind of overwhelmed you know that's kind of what the character is because the situation these kind of thrust into these scenes with my

friend mark wahlberg he's great was a like to a very hard worker very hard work very useful and he talked about. jordan's a lot is a nice guy. is this your first experience in a big movie this size yeah this. i mean that's that's part of the excitement why even sign up for this because i wanted to work with mark i wanted to work with michael bay you know these guys who you know spin a very giant plate when it comes to film production. i mean it's you know you're you're shooting so many moving pieces literally so many moving pieces that you're trying to capture and we've been narrative throughout and it was interesting just a different view so as you're used to your own material you write the comedy show you write your stand up transformers you didn't write yeah it's well two things one it is hard for me to do things that i did write you know unless you in the right

kind of develop that together it's really difficult because the words is so important but i think the great thing is you know michel. just kind of had me just improv a lot of things and transformers and and also it was a learning curve on what works internationally you know as a comedian. walk into a nightclub in the states and connect with the audience in new york or l.a. but you know what types of jokes what type of humor is going to translate into china and india are you are you are a writer who performs all right or before as that's a great question or problem form of all right i think at my core you know my core i mean executive produce i can see that i can get out of or you're a you're trying to be everything. roger rudd you want to control a network to mind thinking about there's a satanic what i slot because it's important you need to know the business aspect

of it you know that you can't you can just stumble into this thing if you want and i think that just raw talent is all that matters it's that but it's also you know it's crap. most guys thirty years old don't go into a meeting with a network and say you know i would slot this. nine thirty yeah but you have to i think that's an important it's ok and honestly a lot of credit bureaus thank you very much you're going to be a major major you're going to be larger than just building one and i appreciate you saying that thank you very much mom really appreciate it me she's going to go house . oh we play a little game of if you only knew i just throw some questions that you're all right with who is your childhood celebrity crush childhood celebrity crush. man probably halle berry too bad good choice secret talent secrets hal and i can carry a note to hear their i don't know how much of secret it is but i think for his new

cd that's when you want to really full of myself really trying to do or if a person you trade places where does job you've ever had i've only had one job so i guess it was the everything i've only i worked as a shoe salesman finish line. really the only job i had before i moved. men choose a woman shoes athletic men women and children everyone came and that's a tough job yeah it's a lot of interaction with the pleasure. that's a good question i mean thirty now i have now all food all sugar and fright things you start being conscious of it so every day is just you know you drink fries you know what never fails to make you less. yes question there are certain people who make me laugh like. who's on my show is just funny he's just genuinely funny my dad's really funny there are people that are

just the super power would you like to have. us a good question you keep saying that it's a great question though because i don't want to just give a you don't know i don't know yet i'd like to be invisible really why use own business although the visible soul mind is of all you would like to be a business i like to be in a meeting then go outside and see what they say oh you want to hear you want to have people what they want to hear the real trash talk yeah that i guess that would be cool although it let him have it. you could say whatever in the room what do you wish you were better at all the time management i guess is always i think i get lost and you know just to be an artist i want to just i wanted at my core really just want to sit in a room and think you know and kind of i want to be everywhere you want to be everywhere what's the biggest perk of being

a celebrity. faster. tables at restaurants the strangest fan encounter people who like my work are the greatest not just because they like but because they're it's really subtle it's like a real like it's like a knot on the street it's like hey like a point i really love this is actually warm yeah it's really warm in there you know so as of right now everyone's really unless i have me a script is there anything you long believed to be true but realize wasn't. it was born a cynic you know so i mean it's just like that i said i never trust the government . trust it so i i was kind of born a little you will see what something we don't know about you. pretty open and you were pretty open i don't think there's anything. that i don't

know how to love the way out of mo do something emotional so talking motional do you want to get on i would have a family i'm good i go back if i have these moments where i go oh that would be interesting but i was just with my nieces and my nephew and that's enough. that's enough there's already five kids are going to put the home always great oh it's fantastic i care enough about the well big i can goodnight goodnight and send a check but here's the i know they say you know it's deeper than money money is the greatest way to show your love to anybody and he always says it's the great everyone is lying to you when they say it's the greatest thing you could do on he's only thirty. god what a life. before we get there starting young is thirty i don't know with thirty well if seventy is the new sixty thirty is the new eighteen oh wow first what would

modern pharmaceuticals and like you going to live tell americans what eighteen year olds. is that what you're telling me tienen up yeah. make sure it's up without yeah enough though of course ok on a serious note i was being serious. bill maher used the n word on his show oh boy did he what's your response to it i mean what was the i think it was a good joke first of all. that was the big issue is like this life of those where you offended as a jewish person like not normal fit as a comedian. that was a good the same thing with the kramer thing i would joke is that when michael richards said it alls they do it so what is that a joke and what words but it's like i'm one offended by him saying it you just think not only poor taste but was a bad joke i think of you going to say you need to have check your intention you know to mean like oh he took the question you took the question and i thought i did

again i thought the joke was it was really bad trying you know give comedian some some break because i understand and i know how hard the craft is and i know what he was going for but i don't think he thought it all the way through obviously i mean had he wouldn't you know how do you thought it through would be like apologizing for a couple so quick social media questions alex townsend on facebook who's your dream guest star to have on the comical show. who has so many there's so many people i really wanted to have like what goldberg on because you know great he would do it but she won't fly out here i know should she only takes the bus to take a bus or train or train yeah it's amazing. yeah diane we stay. bad it's great flash harvey tweets how do you keep your art so on assist. don't lie you know i mean i think it's vulnerability is key you know because it's like it's hard you know it's hard to just stick to what you want to say and stand

by it and you know people get angry with you and people can feel some kind of way but i mean just say what you mean you have a studio audience at the show is a different don't stand up with a studio audience when you do in the city yeah you got to have patience right yeah well we do to tapings because i wanted to be a real resort for cameras before cameras so it's like we have. i want to real response you know and i and i don't want them trying a lot of times studio audiences hours you know crew increasingly better but anything when you watch television like that the primes like a plot at a buzz words and and react to certain things and that's kind of that's hard for me because it's not an honest reaction but we over the over the course of doing the show like they've done really great and kind of take out like knee jerk reactions and less is just like honest just the less me just like the keep the less do you

get nervous before you go on no not really about standup no i get really excited would stand up when i have like thoughts to share i get really really excited and paced around and i know comedians had a perfect have you bombed oh yeah of course oh absolutely what does that feel like when you're set for forty minutes. first and then the law is already ins don't get it. you know you feel like you feel like bill maher the morning after me this is. what it would i just do what i do. also it's harder when you're a well recognized right they expect more yeah they expect more they expect more and you want to give the more you want to give them you know honestly you know you enjoy your success or are you the kind that kid and i call you a kid who's always looking for tomorrow it's usually tomorrow usually working i'm

usually kind of a. bit of a reckless you know i go through phases where you don't seem like close but like i like to i work in think can go on walks and i'm usually tied up with something and pacing around you know just walking around my place thinking smoking a cigar. because pace around i got another serious note what do you think of cosby i think he's a guy that a fantastic thing you know it's a situation where everybody loses you know i mean like you know he doesn't loses and you know the things that he's accused of a terrible in terrible end and you know real women who are victims who you feel your heart goes out to them because it's such a horrible thing to get over and then he was important in your life and lives absolutely you know i mean you know and i mean we you grow up you watch the show

and you feel connected to it especially as a black family you get so excited seeing that you know and seem to trade in what seems to be an honest way and it's funny and smart and you know and then you open up the washington post and you like how many women i know my long time it's sad. but you are not man you're on your way that's a hell of a way to him. good luck to you. thank you very much. a host of it's a good look for us to stay out of the playboy mansion. to ride comics and because those show there's wednesdays at nine pm they said drawing and transform the last night was in theaters on june is always you can find me on twitter at things and you'll find him next on the point on the show because there's nothing else to do.

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