start watching the hawks. to. get the. real deal with. the bottom. like you know that i got. it so. well what is a watch box a robot and times have a while if some of them so many people are freaking out at home right now like wait a minute while the hawks talking about sports it's a political talk show why are they talking about sports. i'm bringing up we're bringing up the n.f.l. issue instead of brain injury and things like that because look entertainment dominates our society today there's razor and so what we spend more money on entertainment than we do almost anything else in this world maybe next to military

spending. but make that. you know and when you have a conglomerate a massive organization like the n.f.l. who you know have it rigidly tried to deny the you know sixty's affected their players now slowly. you know this is a major story especially when you have a country dealing with health care right now and if we can't have health care if we can't take care of the people that entertain us how can we expect to take care of to take care of any i don't know average person well i think part of the thing is looking at what i think was really interesting is that they're also looking at this for soldiers which i think is a big thing and we've actually covered this story before on the show and that was one of the things that we kind of tried to look into was if if someone's if these traumatic brain injury is what about soldiers in the field then if this can help a number of people so it seems odd for me and a little bit unpatriotic to kind of throw it. out there. for the n.f.l.

to be taking money from you from the armed services to celebrate them and yet not taking something like this seriously that is a disease that could affect a lot of people and their work because save lives in the field for soldiers so i kind of find it weird that they're just like no no no exact your nonprofit what are you worried about is the thing and look clearly if we put all our money in entertainment in this. tragically that's our priorities about what's interesting is that when you look at this study and what dr mckee did the brain swells every player every position on the field there was like no stone left unturned there were young you know their brains from as young as twenty three it was old as eighty nine in the tragic thing about this disease is that you can't diagnose it until after someone's dead there's a lot of warning signs and there's a lot of like kind of condition of those symptoms of it but you can't truly diagnose and so you actually have the person's brain in your possession which might be a first area to start looking and serious or just finding out

a way for them not to be and there are some questions about it so when you look this wasn't just random group of brains that were donated these were these were n.f.l. retirees whose family either showed some sometimes of c.t.e. or they had some concerns about it so it's not a clue it's not just some wide open completely unbiased sample but the new york times actually pointed this out that one hundred ten positives these one hundred ten people who saw this these one hundred ten positives remain significant scientific evidence because if you take about there's been about thirteen hundred former players have died. so even since they began doing it examining this brain so even if every one of the other twelve hundred players had tested negative that still means to stick only the minimum c.t. you prevalence of be close to nine percent which is much higher than that in the

general population which is then jobs that are dangerous or can have head injuries but not on the right for the thing comes and that's how you know that it's the n.f.l. there's no other excuse for it yes like i do you know it's the time present still a big one and when you look at like what n.f.l. players what the statistics say about the head injuries they that they suffer i mean researchers at stanford found that in one one college offensive lineman sustained sixty two hits to the head in one game that was the equivalent each hit was the equivalent of driving your car thirty miles an hour into a brick wall yeah that's that's harsh imagine this bang in your brain against the wall sixty two times you know lying down that way if you don't do you think that one baker backers during the course of a game in a season have to suffer a lot of what they call sub concussions which are blows to the head that you don't even show any symptoms of until long after the game is over so you know they put in

all these rules all we can take people out of the game when they have a concussion well there's also sub concussions you don't even know about and the key of the linebackers a player in the n.f.l. for ten years could sustain up to fifteen thousand of these sub concussions. it's pretty doctors and researchers in this field of found that the longer you play football the higher risk you have you know but there's still that chance that one could do with one hit they don't know yet enough of one hit is that multiple hits they just know that the longer you put yourself at risk the more likely you're going to get this and this causes suicide this causes all sorts of horrible things . inspired by the one nine hundred ninety five cyberpunk thriller johnny mnemonic yeah when i was still long the c.e.o. of swedish firm bio hacks whose motto by the way is because of a future get your upgrade now has convinced wisconsin vending machine company three square market to integrate bio technology in their employees and when i say in i

mean it the eighty five person company is providing r f i d or radio frequency identification implants free of charge to its employees on a volunteer basis and about fifty employees have volunteered to have the race grain sized implant inserted under their skin between their thumb and therefore finger the chips will then be used to enter buildings log into computers used copy machines even purchased snacks from you guessed it vending machines as three square market c.e.o. todd westby put it quote eventually this technology will become standardized allowing you to use this as your passport public transit transit all purchasing opportunities in response to the news of the wisconsin company becoming the first in the usa to use implants usa today asked its readers are embedded chips dangerous . and that while it is estimated that some fifty thousand people worldwide have

upgraded themselves with the implants and there are very few reported serious side effects most people in the u.s. know the quote unquote microchips in pets and there's more than some evidence suggesting it may not be safe for women or men's best friend in a review of eleven studies between one thousand nine hundred twenty two thousand and six of tissue reactions to microchip implants in animals what they found was that in six of the studies nearly ten percent of laboratory mice developed malignant tumors in around implants and two studies reported microchip related cancer in dogs for bio hacks c.e.o. yeah and the implants are quote something you never drop never lose and it never ever runs out of battery and in the case of three. market b. implants are voluntary in accordance with the wisconsin state law which prohibits mandatory r f i d chips which puts us in a bit of a pickle so while legislators in some states have foreseen the legal dangers and medical sciences studying the physical threats why are we asking ourselves if this

is about our convenience or about making people into walking pocket. that's a good question what do you think. this is about maybe there's a big all convenience or books or you know people for you know what looks good or oh you're with to go out i mean most of us can be catalogs with a blood sample and get now a d.n.a. test to figure out if our irish way are so most of us have certain information out there with this these things hold is could hold your bank account information and all data you know there's there's pros and cons of them in general however i do think especially in the the situation with the wisconsin company i see this as something that they're trying to sort of figure show oh well our company uses and it would be so much easier if you had our then doing machines which are equipped with this and we can get you like to me it sounds like bio. and you know three

markets or three square market is is thinking about show it they're trying to show like bacon that you go into employers and say well you can have all of our wonderful vending machines and then all your employees have to do is get this chip from by accident it's all taken care of and you can track every. something that you know is just to me and you know the it's a little boy you're saying there's a lot of pros and cons to get to you know some of the pros are convenient they're small they're you know rugged they provide really good inventory management solutions and they allow those you know for a database to become portable and there's no like you know bodies mix up yes they're implanted at birth apparently there's an issue with. this i rarely like. five thousand babies a year yes next up around the world and the idea which i also find a little creepy is the idea of having this and planted in a baby like literally the day it's born and it would stay with you through death so they could always make sure the right body goes in the right place but walk us through it i mean well there's tom yes it was easy to intercept the data i mean

that's they're very easily hackable they don't have a super great range so you have to be very close sometimes within six inches or really close to you know if that things in your in your hand you have to be pretty much this close screw it in order to set it off there's always the possibility of viral infection as we saw in a lot of the studies with animals and obviously people and animals are different but what you're seeing is this you know having tumours around the site you have a couple of instances where dogs developed tumors and developed cancers and lymphomas when these things were taken out the cancers and lymphomas one away now you haven't seen that specifically in people who've been using mass but these haven't said what about fifty four hours of the whole world and all the euro zone are going to regulate it this is the first new i always look like this. and i also think technology in the next few years is going to make the idea of this little race size thing that was developed in the eighty's for fish farms totally opposite

of what i was juggling much better if you're going to put something on where you get old paranoid call me a conspiracy whatever i can if you watch. i also look at it like i don't trust corporations and governments to you slow drops human beings on the information that would be right you know now there's money there there's no g.p.s. and then you can get the ones with g.p.s. i was right you know i mean that makes more sense when people are out it's like probation from right and a little of how this even got started in the government and how this you know i just can't trust such a thing in those persons about those persons of government officials kind of like you know making good off the kind of technology oh yeah tommy thompson former wisconsin governor. i met once when i was a child oh my when i was very young so one of the problems that you're seeing is that you have politicians going in to making money as you said off of this so according to the a.p.

this is back in two thousand and five two weeks after this microchip company which was the first one to sort of try to put all these patents and get the whole thing started they were approved in two thousand and five by the f.d.a. for medical and identification purposes only. then former wisconsin governor who was at the time the health and human services secretary under bush. in two thousand and five left his cabinet position right after you know the verisign gets approved a couple weeks later he leaves this cabinet position and five months later he's on the board a very chip he's getting cash he's getting stock options that went on for at least another two years and it's really important to remember specifically about tommy thompson and his politics he pushed heavily in the state of wisconsin for as long as i can remember and in the house and human services secretary he pushed for. electronic digital medical records for higher technology things so that we could track and things like that in order to figure out ways to track medical records with people. so look back then he then went in probably was in

a position to help move that along about g.i. and then said oh i'm quitting my job to take this it's all about you know what i wrote all the door. i can get behind it i don't want people to be coddled i don't trust corporations or government to use this kind of turnout properly they haven't they haven't earned my trust. but hopefully you were burned or trust you'll come back after this break don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter see our poll shows that are coming up to present his interview with jackie stevens about her new book states without nations plus. or is it so shocked like you will stay tuned to watch the whole.

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me a good mood and. you don't think about these things these soldiers. you got three to play and you know there's another patient. more and more we witness a clash between the economic and cultural interconnectedness of today's world and a rise of nationalism in our politics from far right parties in europe gaining traction to a presidential candidate winning an election promising to build a wall and for. the quote rapists and murderers but politics don't seem to be

matching up with the reality of shared global culture social media and growing world trade dr jacqueline stevens a political theory professor at northwestern university addresses these issues and more in a recent book states without nations she earlier joined johnstone to elaborate on her promise and on envisioning a future without nation states and traditional governments. but the basic premise is that there are that the reason that we have attachments to a nation state in particular is because people are afraid of death and in order to create a world that would assuage that kind of anxiety they imagine themselves as being part of an intergenerational community in which they are intricately connected and by birth and that will persist after they die so if you are a citizen of russia and you die you can imagine that you in some form may persist if the country state or the nation state of russia persists or any other country

and as we think of these kinds of attachments as natural my research shows is that really the result of a series of laws and that insofar as these attachments are created by laws we can change these kinds of attachments if we can change the laws and the four laws on which i focus our birthright citizenship i mean to start with the question about why it is that you become a member of a country just because you're born there we don't assign any kinds of other progressives or rights much less kind of monetary benefits just because supposedly just because you're born in a certain place and yet you get your citizenship just because you're born there not because you know the constitution especially well or any other attribute and so if we got rid of membership based on birth not only would we allow for

a lot of immediate individual level benefits that have to do with the free movement of people and so forth in ways that that would help pragmatically in the short term but also over the long term when those kinds of attachments to the nation which is from the latin word which means birth when those kinds of an attachment to a community based on birth are we can. and then we can imagine that the world might develop into a global community that is like a series of it's like a federated country such as say the united states where you have membership based on residence and not on birth. joining us to stone to talk about this interview he did with jargon wow that's some pretty. radically interesting concepts the bringing up there i've never quite heard about that kind of idea of getting rid of birthright citizenship from you know i mean i heard it on what the far right you know but i haven't really heard it from you know

a professor at northwestern university are saying this is an interesting concept you know how you know where it should kind of getting this and what is what is the benefits that she was seeing that would come from something like. right and so you know obviously she synthesizing what we in the fold if you will get put in a context she said the sizing essentially it's like a mixture of socialism even some communist ideology with libertarian ideology a lot of some anarky and argues the ology all being synthesized but within the concept context of keeping nation states but ultimately the idea of moving towards this concept of a citizenship of the world right that old you know i'm a citizen of the world and i'm not just here to belong to a nation and i think the idea is to move past the idea of these now the nation states because they evolved we had you know we've had kingdoms we've had empires you can be argued we still have an empire today but right now we live in a nation state model of power systems and if we're moving the ideas were to move to

next what's the next evolution will be nation states forever or will there be a new model that starts to integrate people from around the world in a new economic sphere basically without this preconditions and expectations based on the old world to be the best were how to do the that evolution yeah i really do because i think that we're i think our generation really just we don't see the point and. you see how much trouble it causes just to be caught up in these ideas a very you know i was born here so i get this privilege or my parents were born here or this person and that's all the idea of i have to be in one country or i don't have a chance i think most of us in our generation just think that everyone like our jobs should be spreading that throughout the world that everyone has that not keeping other people from our privileged interestingly enough she she kind of tackles the relationship between family and government in this next clip let's take a listen. to the second proposal is to eliminate inheritance because that's

another way that people are tied to these intergenerational attachments to the family and so you might think well what does that have to do with the nation state but it turns out that you know it's true that these laws that create the family you know including this idea that if you pass on to your children you somehow will be remembered by them and again gives you one a fantasy of immortality that is inconsistent with the actual fact of mortality and what that does is it creates these families that through law. constitute the nation and so the second proposal is to eliminate inherent the third relatedly is to eliminate marriage so it's not to say that people can't fall in love and you know have lifelong commitments and children and so forth but that it wouldn't be an institution that goes through it would be a practice that requires any kind of state recognition that's interesting as i've ever heard i've heard the argument from what the libertarian and they're going to bring about you know the. marriage and all that but i haven't heard that about and

that's a very interesting dynamic that she brings up strong. right because a libertarian organ would normally be towards eliminating the entire inheritance tax in general the idea is well it's private the held wealth it should basically you can do whatever you want with it you can give it to your children you can be with the charity you could you know do it what you choose when you pass away and you know her argument is basically getting the state out of its role in terms of as an arbiter but the same time keep basically taking away the right to pass on that wealth when you die because you have to give it away before you die i suppose you want to put your children so it's you know it's an interesting argument she also gets in this idea of getting rid of private land ownership which goes to more the idea of common the idea of the commons the idea of like you know what we would see with indigenous cultures historically that have more to do with being shared and they have you know were sponsibility that has to be jointly held rather than privately held where you don't have this is so it's a bit of

a little accountability responsibility shown but i'm not a soul in this favorite i think it's just an interesting argument to be heard. you come from a kind of very interesting what kind of quasi socialist quasi conservative state so no i mean so does there's a kind of a lot about practice is that you see that up there i think they're a little bit more in the libertarian with a little owl because we do kind of i think they're subside i may not agree with certain lifestyle or i might people might not agree with something but i was always kind of i think a little bit of a midwestern thing for us is we just don't think the government should be but why is the government telling anybody who they can and cannot marry why do i have to have the government's because it permission anybody that's sort of where i think i was always instilled with that fear of the government taking things too far like be wary when the government is telling you who you can marry and where you can go and i think the thing about land or an ownership is interesting because right now the way that we deal with land ownership is we're still paying rent to the government in the form of another chances that we don't really own that the government doesn't

rent from i want to hear would she have finally. you know immigration you know how does immigration work in a world. without masons it's their words. so we have a lot of natural experiments of there being possibilities for free movement including more recently and within the european union again there was this big anxiety that all of the people from greece would move to you know germany and so forth and instead what happened was the opposite that once you had a stable political entity there was more confidence by investors in these poor regions and so you had a lot more direct investment and actually you had more people leaving who were of greek or portuguese descent from the you know more developed areas back to their homelands researchers who study turkey say that if turkey ever joined the turkish migrations of turkey other ever join the european union the effect would be a large number of turkish people turkish descent moving from germany back to turkey

because there would be more confidence that they could move freely and there would be more you know investment in turkey. well that i was going to you can definitely check it out of the whole interview will be up online today sean thank you very much once again just before we trick our jacqueline stevens of the it's really interesting interview interviewing dynamic look at the future of what could be in this country thank you so much for joining us from los angeles always a pleasure. in a nice man once advised throw your dreams and to space like a kite and you did not know and you do not know what it will bring back a new life a new friend a new love a new country and now maybe a tasty new got to see it seems that the darkness of space is one monster is distillery how well it turns out that the atoms in the spaces between stars are

commonly eighty eight percent hydrogen ten percent helium two percent carbon and oxygen which is convenient tyrrel if your space traveler since ethanol is the alcohol that makes it tipsy and it's made from two carbon one oxygen for exposure it but if you're thinking about starting a microbrew on the orion nebula be aware that in order to collect enough ethanol to make one glass of vodka you'd have to hold that martini glass out the window of your spaceship for a. half a million light years in order to get have enough out than all. to collect enough space so drunk and still totally bogart in malibu all right that is so to remember everyone in the world were not told beloved enough so tell you all i love i am tight rope and climbed out of the wall and keep watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody.

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