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military officials and diplomats say the arms which they characterized as defensive are meant to deter aggressive actions by moscow us suppose will say they worry that the conflict has intensified with a rising number of cease fire violations as progress on peace efforts has faltered . because yes yes nothing d. intensifies the conflict and brings peace to a region faster than a good influx of arms. i think we all can remember i mean look at it all worked out so well and be acknowledged in the early sixty's or afghanistan in the one nine hundred eighty s. or syria today arms in places that are a little bit warry. now works so well i wonder if the state department pentagon also believe that pouring gasoline on the campfire is the best way to prevent forest fires yes my friends this is the backward logic that is your pentagon and state department even smokey the bear agrees with me. almost makes you wonder if
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the new cold war hawks here in washington are looking to inflame ukraine right before the russian presidential elections in the spring of twenty years but hey maybe i'm just a conspiracy theorist but i don't know call me crazy i do know it means we definitely need to start watching the hawks. to. get the. real deal with. the bottom. like you but i got. to. leave it so. welcome everyone watching the harks i am i robot and done. just occasionally paranoid occasionally paranoid like when i hear
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that we're sending arms and weapons into places the there's a little bit of conflict is a little little bit a little bit you know and here's the thing that really got me about this taboo is that we haven't heard a peep out of ukraine for a while the mainstream media has covered. these things if they're so worried about how terrible it is why are they not covering up exactly and maybe we're going to suddenly see that stories suddenly kind of rise up out of the ashes and out of the pentagon is looking to sell a few arms over there because then you yeah you know dollars went to jail it's when ukraine becomes the you know cause does your again when everybody is like oh the administration's a failure but let's jump on the bets but as i said it's here we are back again and there's an election going on and now all the sudden again they're pushing to push more arms into a place oh yeah oh yeah and we've got to go the word. that i keep hearing about that. you know i mean when the. you know you know you don't i mean you know i mean the thing is with
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a visit like it's true i mean there since. the last kind of peace you know ceasefire idea that the you know the cease fire agreement that they had going on there you know there's been a few little outbreaks here and there but nothing on a major scale that i've heard or seen in the media or reading that it was papers i've read quite a bit. also were true that according to the wall street journal sources and other papers have covered this there's been no decision. proposal you know that hasn't been discussed at a high level in the white house. and it wasn't discussed you know russia meeting there that took place a few weeks now last week but they are saying they are reporting sources apparently are reporting that u.s. defense secretary james mattis has indeed the plane. who would you know. the last time that you know floating arms into ukraine you know the u.s. basically giving you know ukraine government arms through you know for apparently the russians on the other side of the country that wasn't exactly backed by the
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whole of europe we didn't have a lot of allies from no not at all and we're back to that same point where you have a german chancellor angela merkel and other allied leaders are taking this pushing back against when they strongly push back when the obama administration considered supplying arms to ukraine remember this was a big thing during the election as well because there was did the republicans take it off their platform did they put it on their platform was it on there wasn't a lot of accusations for something that was never even on there in the first place yes. they instead opted to provide kiev with short range radar night vision goggles and other equipment so it was this non-lethal stuff just like those truly defense that if germany and france are really really skeptical about providing arms to ukraine because of all the issues that you talked about but u.s. officials kind of have the. idea that they expect allies including the
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u.k. canada poland and lithuania to be open to increased military support so there is there are great european. wait i love. the you said the u.k. canada poland and lithuania one of these things is not like the others what is kind of like opinion that all matter at all i mean really ok u k poem of there in the generally same region so is the case that major war breaks out and civil you know all hell breaks loose that i didn't understand care mental. and then you wonder why across the world the criticism of western military and western ally is because they're coming into places that they are they don't live it doesn't affect them it's not part of their decision and what's not put this one is where that perception comes whether it's on purpose whether they're doing it to do that that is the perception of the what kind of weapons are we talking about while jolie
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about under the pentagon state department proposal the u.s. would provide anti-tank weapons like javelin missiles possibly anti-aircraft weapons in addition to other arms but here's the thing about those those those a defensive weapons the anti-aircraft missiles and all of these things those can literally be changed into defense and often of weapons like that but you're wrong you're wrong almost say right here live on t.v. you're wrong yes because according to the wall street journal u.s. officials as part of an effort by policymakers to limit the risks of this offensive escalation and diffuse criticism of the moves could encourage openness of action but you have a plan to deploy the missiles with ukrainian troops stationed away from the front lines of the conflict so they're going to get into the back of the conflict not the run but. except leaving out the little for the javelin missiles or
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insurers or. usually occurred by two. highly mobile which initially could be too big for a large they just really want to play the region just. the deep rooted blight at the core of the democratic party was not spawned in the halls of the kremlin or flung from the stands of the democratic national convention by those evil supporters its been there festering for quite a long time the one nine hundred ninety s. rebirth of the dems by bill and hillary clinton meant that they buckled on health care instituted one of the most racist policing and prison programs ever conceived instituted a republican well first scaremongering deregulated wall street buried marriage equality instituted the foul and homophobic don't ask don't tell ignored the rwandan genocide oh and escalated foreign drug wars which is one wonder what better deal the dems are offering now none of which was remotely in line with the values ethics and ideals of the democratic party but then that was kind of their point
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right moving the dems further in order to win elections became the one and only platform the dems have remained faithful to now in the rubble of the twenty sixteen election loss the chairman of the d.n.c. is campaign arm has announced that the dems will not withhold campaign funds for candidates who oppose it woman's right to choose what to do with her own body and relation to family planning and health saying quote there is not a litmus test for democratic candidates as we look at candidates across the country you need to make sure you have candidates that fit the district that can win in these districts across america and despite the fact that nancy pelosi has become political poison the democrats and pelosi herself refuse to believe she is anything but perfection so you want me to sing my praises is that what you're saying why should i well i'm a master legislator. politically astute leader. the democrats seem to have abandoned the poor minority of centrist liberals
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progressive millennialism working class for big payout celebrity endorsements and the illusion that winning is the most important part of politics. woo hoo yes i couldn't agree more. that's the sad part you're seeing in the democratic party right now i mean the republicans got their own problems but but the democrat wow wow i mean is this crumbling away and now you're telling me with the now they want to take away the kind of just ignoring one of the basic pillars of their hearty which was pro-choice pro-choice right you know. the way despite whatever and there are tons of democrats who managed to do the same who managed to have that and be pro-life in their personal a pro you know. you want to put it in their personal life but it doesn't affect their politics and they still. stand for their constituents and let's and i want to do so and what's interesting is there's they're already getting blowback more of this in the you know in their attempt to kind of win the evangelical you know
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religious crowd by focusing on abortion even self-proclaimed pro-life democrats like you were mentioning like the views sunny host and things the dems attempt to gain the moral high ground by focusing on abortion is a mistake here's what she thinks the bottom should focus on instead the most important issues are justice and mercy the most important issues are caring for the poor while being strangers caring for our our our. yeah you know i think that's the problem with the democrats is that they are not only putting winning above all else which smells a lot like republicans. they're they're they're also. they're not coming to grips with the fact that they get their money from the same wall street that gives their buddy the republicans out at the end of the day they can't rectify that with the burning supporters or the progressive base and now they're going to turn their backs on that progressive base again by saying
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pro-choice so big. and on super important i mean we got to get those and what this says is them trying to just get evangelicals these this supposedly mystical evangelicals and catholics that want this that don't i mean tim kaine as a catholic he also does not believe in it as a choice it's for what many things that it's not something you should do but he supports a woman's right to choose to do it and all of this goes into it's not just about ending a pregnancy this goes into all the family planning because this goes into your hobby lobby's and everything else trying to convince but here's my thing the dems are looking down the barrel of a shift in their political and moral identity they can move away from the establishment against money grubbing and all of this sort of a lead us nonsense that loss to them the house the senate governorships one after another the white house every bit of power they have or they can do with the with that that they've done for the last two decades which is essentially ignore the poor minorities and working class so people like nancy pelosi can keep fund raising
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and pretending like she has a bit of power in her think she has no power she's not a master anything pretty sure was pretty good it would be in this kind of friction but we're going to go to break right off watchers don't forget to let us know where you're going to stop or to the cover of facebook and twitter see our poll shows that are dot com coming up it's lights camera cia and pentagon with you all for co-author of the book national security cinema the shocking. so control with hollywood don't want to miss. to watch. is an american inspired attack on north korea in evitable one certainly gets that impression listening to washington's war hawks is north korea a growing military threat of course it is but it is also under threat is there still time for diplomacy. you can see the border from
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the. steel and secure this was all we'd. like and so this is this is. and this is. you have every right to be here have a right to call collect my food be a part of my family on both sides of the border. play started an organization called the arizona border recall we or the stand alone. that is doing. with these to be done in the five years it's getting worse. is escalating because this. is really good with them because you know they believe the range is there and they don't believe. that there is taking. responsibility for their security which we would for you or else treasury.
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movies have often been called the ultimate tool for escaping the grim realities of daily life nobody believes and that those more than the military industrial complex which as it turns out spends tremendous resources making sure only the most pleasant and politically innocuous picture breaches the big screen from white washing our quest of all small intervention in black hawk down to glorifying the cia's use of the most vile torture techniques in zero dark thirty or even educating children about the dangers of communism with cartoon animals. animal farm dr matt
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alford of the u.k.'s university of bath shines a spotlight on hollywood's advertising relationship with the national security complex in his book national security center earlier we sat down with dr alford and i asked him for examples of some of history's most cinematically misrepresented conflicts. i suppose the most. perception of war was. conducted by the united states in cinema would probably be the vietnam war films in the sense that that was very much to be a benevolent united states military going over to to rescue a poor a poor blighted. even when there are critical films like that for example the american military shown in a very sort of victimized way or the rambo films where the main character is kind of a tragic. kind of tragic tool of the. of the of the system it's not very
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common that the millions of people who died in that conflict in indochina. screen. the bit amores is probably the the most poorly elucidated. war in film interesting that not only is the aim here it's sort of propagate a certain narrative or a version of past events but to pursue more proactive objectives as well for example you you mentioned the projects such as man of steel where the national guard partnered up with with warner brothers to use the movie and superman's character as a recruiting tool. how how do you hear how do you how do you feel about that i guess. or what are your thoughts on a little more it's more of the consistent message in films like the superman franchise for example that represent war in general and american enemies in general in very. invention and so you do tend to have the islamic bad guy these muslim
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terrorists you do tend to have these repeated themes of russia being the villain all countries in the middle east being the villains and that spreads not just the representation of specific was but across you know just across all kinds of different genres including things like. films in the films in the transformers films it's not always about representing wars badly or representing foreigners badly it's primarily about representing the american military and security state positively because it doesn't want to i don't think it's good and i reckon i think it's kind of a bad thing because. it's not too obvious to me that i mean obviously if you've got this if you've got a massive political organ you know a huge political organization involving itself with popular culture particularly without really any accountability then you've got
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a dangerous situation that where they can overstep their rights within a democratic system and effectively act as propagandists and that can be really dangerous because we've shown the enormous range of material that the pentagon and cia and others have worked on i think i think they really have overstepped that line. in the amount of documents that you guys of god and i cover through for you it's amazing just at the reach that it has a remember them from from television to things like you know american idol whether you're a good weird little things like that or you know true the things that you would expect like oh we're not going to give you you know military access appeared during a war movie that presents for us in about light one of the things that really jumped out as just bizarre to us as well was you've written alongside the military that the cia has also played an equally significant role in guiding the entertainment stream out that's bizarre the cia doing it but what really is. bizarre as the example the just blew us away was the cia's purchase of the rights
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to the film animal far or the book animal far back of the nineteen fifties and was directly funding cartoon of the or will level in the u.k. . it's hard for me to see any other justification there can be for this other than trying to mold you know children and young adults to a certain ideology but the fact that they bought the animal farm of all things is just a wild to me at the end of the day although it's a shocking one because of the money that went into it this was actually one of the fairly small number of cases that we actually knew before as a scholarly community this was known in the one nine hundred ninety s. and a bit before you leap did a brilliant book on it in the early two thousand i think. the other cases of cia involvement have been much more recent a much less less well known it's only really been the last say through two or three years that that's become more apparent but you know animal farm was
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a great classic example but it's historical now it's part of the you know it's a several generations pos so it's an important one but i think we've brought this story up to date very much to me one of the most recent probably most egregious forms of this dark thirty. it probably brought the issue to the public's attention more than any other in recent years you know zero dark thirty what do you think the goal was here was it sneaking in a cinematic defense of torture and quieting down that scandal and that sort of making every making the united states look. polishing a certain thing that can't be polished. was it a way for national the national security complex to take a victory and sort of gather all that political capital capital from the bin laden operation because it just seemed to be such a deep blockage. nonsense as that. coming through and just this gross
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really foul celebration of just a horrible horrible war. it's just it just ended me as a movie as i can't maybe i want to see my thoughts on that very clear but do you think it was part of that regaining that capital from bin laden well i think all of those things are certainly a bit true but it wouldn't have been quite at least at the early stages it wouldn't have been to do with actually getting bin laden because the filmmaker is bold and bigelow have been involved with the. navy seals operation prior to actually finding in assassinating bin laden so they had already been researching and writing the film. at that time and it was actually during their discussions that the assassination rate went ahead so they kind of change the content of the film midstream. so i guess you have to be a bit careful about intentionality like the extent to which the cia thought that
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they could control it and put it in a certain way also in a way like the case with. i guess they felt that they could justify torture perhaps but whether that was the specific. it's hard to say certainly the e-mails that we received and you're right this became a big this was one of the few cases that became a big media. sensation because judicial watch required some of the material through the freedom. they said the cia said look this is the one this is the really important one that we want to get so of all the movies that they have been doing the last two years it was clearly very important to them and i suspect that those political motivations will be multifarious. but controlling the narrative on top yeah of course i mean burn a bunch of tapes on torture because they want to. control it through cinematic means as well but you know when they're working on films or t.v. shows they don't necessarily have the meat. as to what they're going to be trying
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to put in or take out they just want control over the production and that's what the id would do you know it's like any of these organizations they just want to see at the table so a marketing product place in place that would be you know they have a seat at the table that's the point and that's kind of the really interesting thing about of it is this idea of you know what you say is military is a product you know we have. a motto for you know modifying militaristic nationalism and that all the things to make money on and then that's the thing that really struck me about your book and the thing that i think that that i applaud you for your research and doing is that i don't you know not many people are aware of that kind of like look this is shoved down your throats whether you realize it or not like you would you know subtle advertising of coca-cola or subtle advertising of pepsi an interesting case that you've talked about before is luigi. clearly a hollywood executive in the fifty's who is also working very closely with the cia
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you mentioned were asking his handlers a push for placing well dressed african-americans in prominent movie roles to combat soviet propaganda but poor race relations in the united states it isn't it ironic out you know they're doing this the nineteen fifties yet even today we still hear allegations of propaganda when foreign news media covers negative stories about you know the united states or the you know the it's interesting how they still are kind of using that you know they use that for propaganda the fifty's but now today it's only you publish something negative about us ok now your propaganda it's amazing to me that kind of duality and i guess i would be the right word all nations a hypocrite yes all nations have departments or agencies and organizations have these things going on so they're their own part of the same game. and yet of course i agree with what you're saying but you know. the the difference between what the
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united states does and what say russia does or pakistan or israel is the scale. that are on broadway performer our band or robinson who appeared on broadway for nearly two decades in such productions as the lion king ragtime shuffle along and currently in the show in transit had this to say on the subject of diversity and the theater community i love being part of a community that celebrates diversity strives to educate spark conversation and encourages us to live in the shoes of the diverse characters we create on the other hand we have commercial theater or theater for the masses that the realm of broadway still has a long way to go before we can honestly say we're diverse most audition notices now say all ethnicities encouraged to attend this sounds great but just five years ago we were turned away at the door if they were not looking specifically for your race recently we discussed this issue with tony award winning producer ron simons i
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asked him what it means to as his production company motto states tell every story . of diversity and never use that word but in this case i will it's very broad and why we don't just make films and plays and t.v. shows about for african-americans we make them about for african-americans latino americans asian americans hue women the elderly citizens the disabled we have a very broad. but what we like to specialize in are the stories that are not being told because of those communities are always always under represented always and so when i find a story that has hired to stick integrity commercial viability and is about under-represented community i do backflips because that's the story i want to i once had someone pitch me a story about japanese cowboys in the midwest american know about you but i've never heard about a japanese boy in the midwest it would be. exist i didn't know the story was about
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i just heard japanese guy boys in the midwest and i'm on. it's great i want to see that by the white house about two or even though i had more power to you know to folks like simon's and that actor are better robinson you because you know they're out there there and they're really still paving the way and laying down their groundwork slow where we kept going to war for and diverse artistic united states around the world hopefully all right abortive out of our show for today remember born in this world we are told we love the not so it's always wall i love you i am tired robot on top of the lawless keep on watching those hawks on every great day and night everybody. economic development is all about numbers really pleased to report this quarter we earn one hundred six point. but what do we know about the
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other figures. when i think about the fact that our c.e.o. might do. over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart is says c.n.n. . with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. is not just you know a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now where people are the just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly devoid society from the part of the government tried to do it wasn't necessary maybe. it might be making things worse. plus. this is not how complex and work this is.
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