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i do not know if the russian state hacked into john podesta emails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims of russia i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing planned three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied that the n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating corporate media has once again proved to be an echo chamber for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming indistinguishable.
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on larry king you are watching aren't to america question more. oh i'm telling hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture that monsanto collude with journalists to mislead the public about its weed killer roundup shocking new documents suggest it may have more on that with america's lawyer mike papen tonio
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in just a moment and special prosecutor robert miller as reportedly him and hold a grand jury in the trump russia investigation if this is the kind of scandal we get with an oligarchy in the white house why would anyone want another plutocrat say mark zuckerberg to take his place as dave mccullough and i see a pool and it's big picture. monsanto appears to have been caught red handed series of documents released earlier this week as part of a lawsuit show that the company has been colluding with both journalists and government scientists to spread positive misinformation about its weed killer round up which can sainz glyphosate a chemical that the e.u. says causes cancer for more on this big big story i'm joined by my past antonio host of america's lawyer right here on our t.v. host of ring of fire radio pap is also the author of the new legal the legal
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thriller law and disorder and its forthcoming sequel law and vengeance which is due out in september pap welcome back. some good to be here great to have you with us pat tell us more about what these documents exactly say or show. they're amazing there's no question that these documents show that munn santa was actively working with scientists journalist and people directly being paid by the e.p.a. and working for the e.p.a. at the time to undermine the science showing that roundup was clearly linked to cancer is like lymphoma other very clear communications between people of months in the scientist and the journalist where they tried to find ways and you actually had journalist if you can imagine pimping this story to find ways to discredit specific scientific papers showing a link between roundup in cancer they go out and they hire journalists who will
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write anything that they want for the right price they go out and they hire scientists that will say anything they usually get them from universities paying three hundred thousand dollars ask them to write a paper ask them to tweak the science a little bit they also talked about suppressing information that talked about this link and promoting their own faulty studies that were totally flawed they were totally incomplete they were totally fraudulent they were nothing but phony material at some point in one of the documents one of them on sun his own scientists says that it's impossible this is their own scientists it's impossible to claim that round doesn't cause cancer because the tests that the company ran only used a tiny amount of life to say well below the actual active ingredient levels we see we see them doing this type of thing companies pharmaceutical companies do this all the time chemical companies do this all the time so the study should have been dismissed from the very outset instead monsanto wanted to push that story without
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ever letting the e.p.a. know that it was completely bogus but that doesn't let the e.p.a. off the hook tom the e.p.a. had all kinds of information suggesting that they knew there was a quick met effect in the eighty's the e.p.a. declares. glasses say it will cause cancer they it's their own words and then six years later they change it out of some fantasy argument that gee maybe we got it wrong incredible story this story is a remarkable story tom how do you how did they get away with this all this time i mean this is not life if it is not a new product. how did this happen. well money talks that's the simple answer listen this is month so no has captured the leadership of the democratic party i mean to you i know you follow that story with hillary clinton's relationship to to to the company and. really
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a big part of the of the democratic leadership where actually had this very cozy relationship with montana so did the republicans i don't i don't mean to say it was just the democrats but usually we think of democrats trying to protect our interests this is just the opposite they look this is a company that colluded with government agency to hide scientific findings that should absolutely be illegal but the part of the story that rarely garners any coverage is that it is illegal and look the d.o.j. has these facts the d.o.j. could have could it could have issued subpoenas they could have issued indictments in this case and you watch they won't do it they may get a slap on the wrist in the form of a fine but that's about all that's going to happen in months and in this situation we've seen it again and again and again we've seen it with g m o's we've seen it now the only reason g m o's ever had to be invented was because of this because of the round up life of say this you so this story again if you take
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a look at the coverage that corporate media has getting given this story it's almost nonexistent as a matter of fact corporate media has tried to spin this story to to put to point out the better angles about why monsanto might have been right in. gee whiz maybe they just missed it and oh golly gosh maybe they should have done more sun to more scientific studies but they just what we needed we needed this product so badly you don't even need this product that's the interesting thing about the story too well apropos of the product you know for people who may not know what roundup is or what life is say it is you want to give us a just a short summary of what this product what this chemical is where it came from how long it's been in the market how it's been marketed what what the uses of it are that sort of thing. yeah glyphosate let me put it in perspective you can take you can mix vinegar with soap suds and put it on put it on weeds and
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it will kill the weed just as well as glyphosate will but again what we saw was we saw the industry inventing a need ok inventing a need and all of a sudden we have to do it there was a time in the in the united states or in fact around the world where there was this chemical revolution where we're going to solve everybody's problems with these new inventions these new chemicals this is one of those this is one of those chemicals not that there wasn't anything there that would have done the same thing glad to say did you can you can google right now and you will find at least two or three things that are completely safe that will accomplish the same thing that roundup will and these documents help to paint a very clear picture that monsanto understood that there were very clear alternatives and they understood the dangers of their own product otherwise tom if you think about it why would they why would they have gone to the extreme lengths
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to try to undermine the science you realize when we do this story and it's posted on the post on the internet what we're going to find is we're going to find trolls that are actually hired by monsanto to discredit this story they've got a whole network of trolls that they've found doing this day to day and so after we post this story you're going to find these trolls existing with their comments underneath the story and so we already knew long before these documents came out before they became public that monsanto had created what they called the glyphosate task force which was just a propaganda wing whose sole purpose was to question the scientific links between roundup in cancer now they did that at a very high level to begin with they actually tried to influence universities they tried to influence a science. they try to influence corporate media by paying more money to corporate media for advertising dollars that's one way they did it and then threaten
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corporate media by saying gee whiz if you write a bad story about us we're going to we're going to sue you well there was nothing to sue about i mean it was a ridiculous lawsuit but they they knew the scientific links between round up and cancer and so these latest documents are really just an extension of this information campaign that we've known about for a very long time and as a matter of fact the new extension of that misinformation can fade campaign is to have these trolls i'm not kidding you trolls that monsanto pays for to go in to go to sites like we'll have up and go to stories like this and discredit the site or discredit the story call me you know that i'm misrepresenting the truth well you can't say that anymore because the documents show exactly what the truth is as a matter of fact go to levon go to go to the website of levon pap and tonio we're going to have these documents posted on that website and i invite monsanto to go read them again before you send your troll before they send their trolls out to say
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this stuff just isn't true wow i had a scientist and she was not a biological sciences person i think she was a mathematician or maybe engineer but she had done the epidemiology and came to the conclusion and is very controversial that monsanto i mean according to. life to say that it doesn't disrupt the metabolic processes of animals it does it plants and although it may cause cancer to animals this kind of a different thing but but it but it disrupts bacteria as well as plants and she was positing that it's just straw and it's just dropped in the bacteria in the gut and particularly in mom's gut when she's pregnant which might then dysregulation. the body in a way that can even produce autism did you come across any evidence of any of that sort of thing. oh yeah absolutely the short list is also in the short list in
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connection to this to say are the possibilities of alzheimer's disease autism birth defects a.l.'s parkinson's disease. it just goes on forever breast cancer but this is not new material look i'm going to be trying a lawsuit against full disclosure i'm going to be trying a lawsuit against this case down in st louis probably within the next eighteen months and these documents are going to be documents that they have to answer in court and you know what this is just the tip of the iceberg what we're going to find out is we're going to find documents that it was overwhelmingly clear because we see it every time we go to trial with a with the corporate thug like this this trying to cover things up and trying to keep the truth from the from the public we find it we don't sometimes sometimes it doesn't come from them it comes from other agencies that don't destroy documents don't shred documents it comes from other agencies that have possession of these
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documents so we go in through the back door to get this and we've we've already started that in the stuff we're finding right now is remarkable the tele these documents are only the tip of the iceberg tom you know it's remarkable and just we have just about a little less than a minute left. monsanto also manufacturers jim o's do they not i mean they modify seeds so that they can tolerate a life to say is there a problem with the g.m.o. as well or is that a completely separate issue. well there let me say there are attorneys not so much in the united states there are attorneys in the u.s. looking at the glass g.m.o. issue but primarily we're seeing that come out of europe and asia where you have them asking serious questions about the g m o's look here it is trends follow companies just like a trend follows a person trends follow companies trends of coverup trends of deception trends that we're seeing right like we're seeing firsthand with life is that those same kind of
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trends we have to ask ourselves any time is represented as that everything's safe on this company we have to really ask some serious questions tom mike papantonio thank you. thank you great having you with this by the way for all you mystery fans out there be sure to check out perhaps forthcoming legal thriller law and vengeance out in september coming up facebook founder mark zuckerberg is behaving like he wants to run for president but do we really want another oligarchy in the white house last day mccall and isaiah pool in tonight's big picture panel right after this break. the american middle class so it's been railroaded by washington politics. big money for what it says. a lot of boys that's how it is in the news culture in this country now that's where i come in. i phone or to america i'll
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make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk and the straight through. to. all the worlds. and all the news companies merely players but what kind of partners are into america are to america offer much more. personal. in many ways the news landscape is just like this you know real news fake news good actors bad actors and in the end you could never. so much parking all the world's all the world's a stage all the world's a stage we are definitely a player. about your sudden passing i
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phone we just learned. taken your last turn. do it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each. but then my feelings started to change you talked about more like it was a kid still some more fun to feel those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave the funeral the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with this reply to. a speech because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its make.
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it so like a valley has given us the personal computer the i phone and the gig economy could also give us our next president and if so is that really what's best for the country that's asked and it's big picture pale. will be for their eyes big picture panel our day book call a partner in capital media partners and isaiah poole communications director at people's action thank you both for being with us tonight let's not very get started in a move that has virtually everyone thinking presidential run facebook founder and c.e.o. mark zuckerberg has hired pollster joel benenson the chief strategist for hillary clinton's presidential campaign to work as a consultant for his personal philanthropies zuckerberg recently hired former obama campaign manager david fly off to work at that same charity as october has also
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been traveling across the country in recent months to talk to average americans so the question do we really need another oligarchy presidential candidate i mean just the scandals the financial connections of trump. have given us have been just mind boggling what i would say flat no. no more billionaires no more oligarchy no more billionaires no more oligarchy. mark zuckerberg is not what we call it real person we we all like facebook we all get a lot of joy out of that service but that's where you know he did that we actually have a big problem in that space with facebook amazon google they control so much of the economy now that you know we really ought to be looking at asking serious questions about whether we ought to rein these companies in somehow. i don't know all of the answers but having the creator of
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facebook as president of the united states will not get us to answering those serious questions about the power of these corporation europeans are talking antitrust actions against at least one of them you know please see my big question would be about whether i've been all dark successful or rich or whatever it is it's about the media i mean facebook itself is a platform for people to be able to say whatever it is they want to say offensive or not and for him to potentially have access to the controls to to figure out what you're going to see what you're going to see what you're not going to see that's a bigger question i think that's a really good point it is a good question and that was huge in the last election and now that we know now that we're looking back on it we see that the company the robber mercer had you know who the billionaire who was funding trump he had some sort of a data operation or his daughter did rebecca did. that was like doing a deep dive into the into the facebook day i think it was the facebook data might have been somebody else was doing this but but. both sides but particularly
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effectively on the republican side they were getting psychographic information about people based on what they liked and what they didn't like on the pictures that they clicked on and things and and then using that to advertise to them in full disclosure this is what i do a lot of for a living i do a lot of how is it on facebook i know how it works i. you know how it doesn't work i don't know how you can you can target things that certain people get and how granular is it it's kind of scared to be honest really and really is an example so i can take for instance i could take email addresses or phone numbers or address of people actually like real addresses of people and i go after i can specifically go and look at you based on research that maybe someone provides me some of reminds me a little affirmation about what they're what their magazines are that they subscribe to or polling data then we can do different ads based on different we know about it so you can develop fifty different ads for the same candidate one leans toward people who are angry one leads toward people who are happy one leans toward people who are freaked out this is not on the left in the right and everyone in between is the nonprofit organization this is this is really advanced technology
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of the people to get a better job it's nothing new but it is scary what you can do some is ever ties and that's why we ought to be asking serious questions about public policy in the sphere. you mentioned that you trust and i know that the washington post profiled a woman whose whose name i can't remember but steven pearlstein wrote a very lengthy profile in the washington post about a legal expert who's now raise some very provocative questions about how add truslow deeds to come into the twenty first century to ask serious questions about how these powers are used they can be used for good but they can also be used for ill you know this is this is a and finally just to wrap this topic up a grand jury was impaneled today in the trump russia investigations and you know it's got to have trumped freaked out but it seems to me that much of what you know what's there to the extent that we know what's there with regard to trump is
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probably tied up in his taxes his finances you know whether it's with russian oligarchs or whether it's with american billionaires or whether it's you know running scams and some in the philippines you know he's got a trump hotel to charity every but i you know i was also curious about what role of russia. played in our lunch and that's all i want to know that's you know what devon i mean what i want to know it would be nice to have an impending independent nonpartisan investigation of that but the point i'm making is that you know billionaires have tangled finances and those tangled finances are not always pretty in fact i would say probably with most billionaires they're really not pretty which is a is that another reason not to have another billionaire running for president we'll see what he has the soon we'll see what platform is because all we know at this moment is he's hired some pollsters he's hired some pure clearly hired some p.r. people to spin this into a talking average americans when we run the d.n.c. we really need you know the ethics laws that were supposed to be in place to prove you know to separate private interests from public interests really need to have
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come into play of the trump and they really need to serve as a barrier for the next person that comes in in line who wants to in tangle his private interests in the in the public sphere and it's up to the people because the voters and the owners are the ones who voted in there although the people can be can be yours if you later i think they're very go there that's the problem over the next two days the thirty five hundred mostly black employees at the nissan factory in canton mississippi will vote to decide whether or not they're going to join the united auto workers that election is an historic moment in the history of the labor movement in the south and could lead to a region wide unionization drive meanwhile here in washington d.c. donald trump is doing everything he can to make it harder for workers to organize he's nominated two veteran union busters to serve on the national labor relations board the n.l.r.b. one of whom has already been confirmed by the senate so both these guys are confirmed republicans will have a majority on the analog be in will have free reign to got what remains of the
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labor movement how is this making america great again unions have always been the key driver of income inequality throughout american history and if trump is serious about helping workers why is he making it harder for them to organize. because that's what conservative ideology dictates that. you know businesses should have the right to do whatever you know pretty much whatever businesses want to do without the heavy hand of government on them and when workers organize particularly when they are protected by government and you know it's regarded as a fundamental interference in how the market is supposed to work i don't think that's right i think there has to be a balance of power between workers and employers and it's got to be
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more than just this idea that i often hear that oh if the workers don't like it they can leave and get another job that's not always possible. the national labor relations board was created to be an arbor ter between workers and their employers to stack the deck the way the trumpet ministration wants to do and the way the bush administration did in previous administration this is fundamentally wrong we ought to be fighting against that we really need to have someone who we can trust as a neutral arbiter of fair arbiter and i don't think that just because there's a more republicans on the board that suddenly all unions are just going to vanish one day and made me the question well they they largely have i mean we had about a third of america was unionized and when reagan came into office it's now six percent of the private economy and more war on labor has been working and more and more jobs in america are not labor union type jobs i mean it you know when you're
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when you're very low blow moreover it's a labor union type job what does that even mean yeah i'm a member of a labor union. i'm not it normally ever be but but that's fine but my point is though that as more and more people. imprison the good commie embracing independent employment there are less and less of those they need for labor unions but at the same time you're seeing the desire to be one shrink well we'll see it's going to be interesting but a way overdrive verse and others in the gig economy are looking for ways to organize themselves in the u.a.w. is trying trying to get the teamsters are trying to get in there and we'll see how that all plays out the end of the c.p.a. has issued a travel warning for missouri after that state's right wing governor signed into law a bill that some are saying turns back the clock to the jim crow era the bill in question also known as s.b. forty three makes it virtually impossible for workers to sue their bosses for
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outright discrimination in a travel warning also cited missouri's recent history of police violence as a reason people of color should reconsider visiting that state so we are involved in a long term sectarian wars in the middle east but isn't it safe to say that we've been fighting one of our own for the past few centuries right here in the united states i mean this is this is still the ringing echo of slavery and chattel slavery and all the horrors of that were associated with. it though it really does remind me of the days when african-american travelers used to have to we we had there was something called the green book and the green book was you know the the book that told you where the hotels where you could stay at the restaurants you could eat at it was a pleasant brat back in the jim crow era of segregation yeah and it's all it almost feels like that in the sense that we know that there are places where black people
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you know i feel that there are places where i feel less comfortable. i'm less welcome in this era. this is not the america that we want everybody should be free to go everywhere and feel as if if they want to. plant their roots in a particular state that they have the full protection of their rights. and their liberties should be and i don't think that any of us would disagree that race relations in missouri let alone in the united states as a whole are there absolute terrible but before we even jump to that let's look at that as the forty three real quick before. basically it raises the standard up to. the exact legal language is but it result to the national standard for discrimination if you had to prove that you were discriminated against as a result you were fired that's the national standard right. except that you know
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even to the extent that there have been courts that have been pushing in that direction the reality is that pattern in practice you can't do on it in the virtual level you have to get and that's the over time where the day mccall isaiah paul thank you guys great appreciate it and that's the way it is tonight and don't forget democracy is not a spectator sport get out there get active take your. all the feelings go through. every the world experience. and you'll get it on the old world. according to jess.
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come on the. most people think just stand out in this is this you know. to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand down lose business you just need as the right questions and demand the right answer. question. in case you're new to the gang this is how it works not the economy is built around corporation corporations from washington to washington post media the media. and voters elected a businessman to run this country business equals power who must it's not business
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as usual it's business like it's never been done before. on that is so night the president reluctantly signs a new bill sanctioning russia for alleged interference in the two thousand and sixteen election and vice president mike pence pence wraps up a tour of eastern europe to shore up nato's resistance to suppose russian aggression and special counsel robert muller in panels a grand jury as the investigation into russia connections continues to expand. reporting tonight from the our t.v. news room this is the news on r.t. america.
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good evening friends we start tonight with the latest on the sanctions on russia president trump has signed a bill authorizing sanctions against russia and limiting his power to ease them in the future after signing the bill the president released a formal statement of his opposition to the bill in particular he's upset with the fact that the bill say he says is hasty and criticized provisions limiting the power of the executive branch to conduct foreign policy russian prime minister dmitri met medvedev criticized the bill as a full scale trade war against moscow he also criticized president from for cowing to establishment interests in maintaining a new cold war with the russians spokesperson for the state department heather knew or was not so skeptical she expressed the view russia and the united states should cooperate despite the recent sanctions i think many for.

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