tv Documentary RT August 6, 2017 11:29am-12:01pm EDT
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yes it's worked. for me an exit it's out of the reservation to the south this arizona sonora there's a checkpoint leading to the north to hillah been the checkpoint leaving to go to grantee there's another checkpoint and then that's north and then east to two saw this in the checkpoint. so. within that small space we have we're completely surrounded.
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me my daughter was working in tucson so we were driving. back to tucson and we got pulled over by a border patrol and he immediately asked me. to state my citizenship whether i was a u.s. citizen a mexican citizen and i said i'm going on. among all of them you know my meant. where you from. so he merely unclipped this this pistol on this side and he put it in my head he said you will say you are you a mexican citizen. and he did that in front of my daughter and my grandson was.
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and both of them started crying. but he continued to say that he would deport me. on the pavement. in the park. and i said. are you going to deport me to. going to department to mexico that's my men to my communities on that side too. and at that point another border patrol came and saw what was happening and it you know it stopped and. this is the. bleeding heart newspaper very. very
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it could have been more typical. well it could have been hunters. we don't always know. we do have footage of border patrol over. water gallons of. guess there's no way to prove it either way but. that i just talked to said that he knew there was a drop here so i kind of leads me to believe that they know it's here and my becoming it because again that fits in with their strategy of just making it really difficult for people to cross the strategy of prevention through deterrence where basically they want to make crossing as difficult and hard as possible. to deter people from doing it but really this is just resulted in suffering and death on the border and just putting people in a really really vulnerable situation. when
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they catch people they now will put them through operation streamline and give them criminal charges and jail time as a consequence for crossing so they've created this other system to just make it even worse to cross and make what this also does is it makes getting caught more of an issue before you might just get deported back but now if you're crossing and you get lost to turn yourself in might mean spending six months in a jail or six months in a prison and so the consequences are just higher and it's harder to do because there's more in force and it's just really set up to make people suffer.
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when they see. these humanitarians out on the trails try to educate them. because these are people that are coming from different parts of the country. believing the narrative that the organization is putting or you're going to be helping people you know survive going through the desert. when you run in and talk to some of these people sometimes your head just one sticks load from the mentality of the thought process.
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there's a water drop up here probably another half mile which is a mazing because that's a long way for them to carry that much water it's probably in from the truck probably. almost a mile away and. he gets steeper than this to get to it and that's the farthest i've ever seen him carry water and we wouldn't mind going up there but. i'm sure there's water sitting there leisurely of water their day to read their food. so. that's another nice thing you know where i will hike and enjoying the beautiful day i will run into one of their water drops and sit down when they have individually wrapped meals. you know. the role of wars in the yogurt or stuff like that can of beans and will sit on the lawns.
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britishers really good are great when somebody calls and nobody knows what they believe that their range is their answer in a don't believe the federal government is taking. responsibility for their security what you would for you or else is to treat it with a long ways away a lot of times for everybody else so response time for sure. for the border patrol or even the military is a problem. our exteriors for one of those killed love to go. he told razors you're good have to protect yourself tonight the sheriff can't get there of our and if you are in trouble it is going to take me an hour to get there
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half hour to get it or you're going to be able to take care of yourself. here is on is a typical as far as most of the states are concerned we have would be called open carry law where you can carry a firearm pulled from anywhere in the state of arizona if there are you doing. here you get a pet yes you do. you. always have a pretty good day to be here aka. most people won't do it in highly populated areas like phoenix or tucson but here in rural areas like in tombstone basically the only people who carry guns live here are kids in high school. gun there was a lot of different gun manufacturers but this became one of the most popular firearms of its time the cold single action army and this is one i carry and.
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the only thing i shoot with it now is blanks. when i get into a gun fight occasionally and it's just fine it's fine. already lived through it all right now lots of lives. that get. it. that was weird as. we both read it but. five minutes. we are. all raw. or you have to understand that the white man was an invader in their territorial issues to be nothing but surpasses especially down here and of
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course mexicans in southern arizona recorded once part of mexico. cowboys and indians the mexicans hailed us for and back and forth across the border pretty much all the time i mean there were organized military on the mexican science but for the most part. the borders really didn't exist which which also was a large part of the problem with the cowboys gang is that they would go across the border steal cattle and sell it and vice versa. the feeling of. every in the world would experience. and you get the old the old. the old according to just.
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the world come along for the. company said he was up and up and basically. in the fuck. ya single he would be useful as though he were talking to. you i do believe. that a lot of it i think about come out of a skid but i'm about the same as art when i was up the money into. living among low level of my money. just say so you'll be. the only guy who has a long. long way for much of you made for. other people whose life was on the go. live.
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are going out and catching drug runners. a little we don't want to get killed. so we're smart enough to either turn our i don't turn my head i go. we've advocated. for the last. ten years that border patrol should. hire. veterans because they're trained and. it wouldn't be that hard to convert a soldier to a border but. they will do. you know border patrol if they're federal agents but they're civilians that right there that's a problem. in order to control the border you have to have a military officer and border patrol doesn't that.
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ready for. us to. scan for radio traffic. trying to find. where they're talking. so we can listen. i took an oath when i first joined the military. and that oath doesn't expire. so when my military service and did you know i did a lot of other public service jobs things like that. but this this is a huge huge problem and. being. our government
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having things the way they are these guys can't effectively do their job beyond a certain point and. i figured you know what i've got some decent knowledge i've got some decent training why not come out here and give them a hand. the right way and. i think the issue of categorizing people into good and bad people can be really problematic because you know somebody who is carrying drugs across the border might be doing that just to pay you to get across if you don't have any money that's an easy way that somebody can pay for their trip they can carry drugs across. i think also depending on where you were born if i were born in sonora. might be the only
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job opportunity i have the only way that i can make money might be to work as a guide through the leading people through the desert or carrying drugs through the desert that might be the only opportunity so i don't think it's that people wake up one day and decide they want to do this bad thing. we had already seen people crossing we didn't have as much surveillance back that people came across more freely stopped in and asked for food. but i wasn't really aware of all the deaths were going on because it wasn't really publicized very much. and then i met valerie was a noticeable did to the area and she had some big dogs and she would go out walking with her dogs and while she was out there she started finding all these. artifacts we call them these backpacks filled with personal items everything you
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know prayer books rosary clothing lot of family pictures and letters very personal stuff so we started picking them up. and it was actually her idea to do a large memorial to what was happening to the people that. were just falling by the wayside and nobody was really paying attention to them. we decided to focus on the mothers that are left behind to really emphasize the sadness of families being torn apart and so we came up with a list mothers project. we were going to do three. a lot of just that we were going to. going to do one figure for every ten people that
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. realized how many had died so we decided to. hundred. turns out to. so we did one figure for every thousand. three point it was over three thousand people. so we decided that if we we used the clothing to make the paper it would have the d.n.a. of the cross because they're running they're scared they're tired they're thirsty and all this being poured out into their clothing and so we set up this way the others will be made out of the same. as the people that they're representing.
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because there's almost no investigation about what was the cause and almost. if it was happening anywhere else in the u.s. probably anywhere else in the world and the body was found in your backyard or out in the woods in place there would be a crime scene investigation a huge as people look at you all were like you see you know toes but not here is pretty much for the day to even require. this
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because we're all at. the job today. joy or. what's the two thousand and two so he was the first one these two brian terry was in two thousand and ten in the fall is the was in two thousand and twelve so there's more of this being killed and these guys were killed by gunfire those are the ones who have been run over.
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mike du made over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart a says c.n.n. with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. is that just how a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now. people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly divided society that phone the part of the government tried to do both at nestle maybe. it might be making things worse. by saying this is not how capitalism work this is our capital is i'm ghost hopelessly disastrously wrong.
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