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what i always try and follow isis to go is on may i was in so fast and for a year i was and i was quite young i reminded me of the hooligans in england that might and it's always night for themselves back in the seventy's and eighty's that that sign hung at that sign look at that sign sense of excitement. i was probably placed a mate by only one of them spoke english that says it's. the first time they've been allowed out of russia as a group. with phrases of stuff size where we saw it to test themselves and i was in the race in the euro championships in the four and i told me i said i had you know i won nine because i'm an old fart that i wasn't aware of a book published in russia and i said well because president we know all the english. on elections in russia we learn a lot from your books england is the motherland of food it is a well to russia welcome to russia are you scared to come to the world cup. me
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so for. a month and i each now that over to watch you on so you very i've been invited to moscow once look at the time come the slime of film i can now i would love to go back to moscow opening volley ball to. the russians on mate and so fast and for that i stayed in touch with me and i've learnt a lot about him because in the euros are spent at least some free weights if you would him for forthcoming book the photo of india. you know a lot of the time will again jar actually branded fascists criminals by the media you experienced this as well back in day does the media exaggerate the ties between whole again is a man criminality. the major point poem always football who is i'm friends by killing them used to fuel the vonnegut's because the who dunnit relied on the media and i tried so the information i got from the media meant it started and leak
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of on it's on the football star it's night it was announced so at the stadiums. it was sponsible media repulsing you fight in the international dives a lot of friends. very much they slaughter the media because they have different stories to the one we polled teet how do you change just misperception between football fans or hole against and those on the outside. one is are one reason to come out is because i felt it was a different story to the one the public was being told by the media and i've become quite a six for four for when people were laws there was a different story. in fight a lot of people learn from our books students people. that work at a guy who does a lot you know for a lot about the night and the people close in his hotel guns for information from
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the spirit. to the bill if you can papers like them a row and daily mail there were quick to publish videos claiming they show. showing russian hooligans fighting while in reality this was a traditional spring festival play fight that's not in the first time this sort of thing happens how does this affect the perception of a regular british football flame. well as as a form of push. this can of the poem though i did say that video and you can say anyone watches it can say story on why that was not football who does it. but it sells piper's you know they put the headlines out and people want to pipe in a straight ahead of the headline and when they were using the takes and not seen the video which mean you've seen the show someone taught a different way to experience state the russian hooligans that are in their spirits
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that the sign here is as the english to them so it doesn't mean to say that who is and doesn't go on the clearly thought of but there's one thing about misread it and want to say a lot britain has got a lot of problems they had this is a lie is solved with code ism it seems that way now but new for more than for the woman with a sheet of opinions and since the fall to solve it here you know you and you'll you know you'll experience it out but in later experience that and i realize that we poll in. it as an influence to the point now that i don't really recall football it's in england and lest i have to and offer it as an unwritten rule with the price thing england only applies to the english league clubs but when i play internationals like they go for them to report had i wished i'd go a lot more for them hates before my teacher told them at last the world cup or are you out but with the world cup coming up you will see
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a lot of media in this country from the from the the press mirror in the sun. and i see the whole british press establishment go over bold before ball was kicked in the well caught up at the frets of violet's when it's all actually happens. you find that yvonne it seems i was among the what. is known as is that me is the press spilled out build up to please before it's because the measures that we imply stood out but after watching all these movies and reading the hysteria in the media is there a danger anglish fans could be seeking retaliation in twenty eighteen i mean especially after last year's violence at the here is enough to say. you know what the hype did happen and it's not going to miss but luckily the whole is here because of events law is so because england signs of being banged before. just acts
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of on its lot seven so what we say to you i was to sixteen. because england being sued out by the hoodlums all and i know the measures to try to stop them leaving the country. many of whom were not my future russia. it was football hooligans maybe learning from the english elegant movements of decades ago russian authorities are also taking a page from england's playbook there and forcing tougher rules and penalties for violence at sporting events do you think that will work. these country. and it's best shared intelligence shared information. like they couldn't really solving go a long time because a cheerful is doing different things it is only when a way forward is the football the football clubs the place and the colts all come
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together on was i able to really get on top of the vaughan it's an england and from that i've never looked like in some self you feel is really in charge of crowd control and they're very effective. afrique what's going on in russia afraid i will try to simulate action because life is a freak i know in the west the pulse of the media in the waist looking for russia to find was a major sporting very. and offering russia when i realize the world will be watching for signs of football want to that i can obviously play out in the media. and might use that clearly. it's quite obvious that offering a lot of russian who goes will expect a climb down while before the first but with kate in the tournament. is disc airfare on t.v. and in other media are done in hope that russia will be stripped of the tournament
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and maybe it will go to england finally when costs were actually like they've been hurt for a year is now. free what's what's going on is as a person on the terraces on the in the football saints in england ice chrono pride themselves the football fans as not to be involved politically i don't like the politics into football. but you can't mess being in england was great and while i listened there's a good in the last few years and i didn't see russia found a way that's come from. but you can see it building their price to almost hysterical levels. and sport is not for it though he warned politics but you can see it being used as a plea to football. now even if it's liberal police chief mark roberts warrant that while behavior of a minority of british fans and rush out what put all females at risk do you agree
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with this. no no on the whole buffet the problem is the russian football hooligans as they perceive themselves adopted a model from the english show to guns but what's going on is entirely different in the fair way the russian who turns a different strain of football on its to the one night i hate and it states misunderstand the culture does it cause you problems like a citing them the majority in the frame bites is welcome and might have told much across the world because by spain's well i took the ball as drawing and i called was little problems it's only the minority but the russian who didn't do not know who is or who didn't and it was a known who didn't amongst the english and would look at the the english guy or look at a wise interest in the hood and what's right even on the free press what happened
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in new hours which angered a lot of in the show the things that all of it if you. really. really angry that the russians are tight nonviolent supporters. where the russian who is on their axes side we fight with allah. this understand is what is a holy. and because the reputation of the english is actually we bandy back on the english friends where. very much. all right cass we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking with cast panel and former football hooligan turned author more about the nature and the. beautiful game.
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so. you know. there's been up as well i must.
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be. opening up a bit. in the. us we will give you the scoop this is. going to. going to. love them cut. them up like i love. me give each. and then a lot of that i didn't ask to come out i skid but i'm a look the same as art when i was up the money into the magazine but. leaving money unless mom was on. to say.
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that there was a place of the long. haul that was to be made by. other people more dull films like those on. our. list that. make this manufacture consent to stick to the public well. when the running closest to protect themselves. in the final merry go round be the one percent. we can all middle of the room sick. delete the real news.
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i. now we're back with cast panel and author of numerous books on football hooliganism a former member of the hillock and for him talking about causes and the
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consequences of organized football violence welcome back cast now whatever fights between hooligans from different countries break out it immediately becomes infused with politics why does it sometimes become less of a problem and says a source of national pride i mean english fans are better than they were russians or vice versa. so. it's different to any other sport well already it's politics apart. actually if can affect the guy you know that i don't know any other sport where the audience can actually be part of the playas you know he watched her niece slow f one. but you watch football and the atmosphere in the ground can affect the guy you can see plies one phone star you can see the motions of pliers the between applies and the crowd there's no office spall way out the crank can actually influence the guy
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and create an atmosphere from nothing is very powerful lol for who finds that involving on its site its better sex and actually size. and if you fink about every at diction in life there's way you had all someone professes expostulate it not. even violence and anger is all treated but in but no one treats a football hood at all no a lot of it has become addicted to something as a now we know one guy is doctors managers. so it might seem very difficult to understand for audience and judge people because they're not given up off at all so will suppose you look at a football stadium site fifty thousand finds the site so hunter the dickens a causing problems for flares a lot not the other. fifty thousand frames do not if these if these friends out isolate him as friends but friends that go too far it's not something to fight with
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the but a signed on the record on his friends would have made a case that cohen actually point these guys is monstrous but if you look at it by jobs and what i do in law suddenly goes on there and then if they were at home i went because shit i don't buy into russian universities it is very similar to the gangs in england that only make the leaders thugs that involved in the become wildlife are the very inside engine goers so the football from what you're saying is in particular. always have been a way to rip present class to reinforce what you are like the catholics are waiting for celtic and a protest and or rangers in scotland later barcelona fans waving catalan flags that matches like the london where i will raise you where a part of in you know all this up but do you think the well is maybe taken too seriously i mean i mean it's just
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a game after all. no football is more than a guy for boys more than a guy there and that's why it's different to other sports yes you want what you sign if you applies to other sports you go to being a tie and enjoy it i suppose it's like that interest i mean. what's that sport and then you leave. but with football people live there this is a challenge for the guys you know when it's in a group of their choosing to be winners to. go for it it's a saw i. wanted some stuff on i but as i say it is more than just two hours that assignment would have gone for much of a fight somebody is going is that we involved at the front so here at the hall cole over live live live that won't. you know the right thing to say is that politics has no place in sports but. you have really been fierce together
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forever how can you make international teams compete and pretend this isn't about politics at all can you add her take politics out of the equation and disentangle sports and politics yeah it will happen in england politics for one spell all of the cole in my lifetime try to involve them in senses and it is for white goods british national party movement british. and the national front within a couple of years that was driven out of the stadiums in the terraces the influence of politics but didn't come from establishment they come from want finke in a photo it's actually come from the fans themselves the friends themselves they saw enough snuff and drugged out the slime for you happen to state we fought move on and see calm if the fans actually want to commit move on it's they will want a big crowd to calm actually stop it you can enforce the law but you can't stop the
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will of the friends from happening right off the horse so the english clubs a lot of friends themselves said enough is enough they placed themselves by slowly and moved on to something else so there's always hope. there's a will there's always hope a lot of thomas eric's handle them now is that some of the money to complements with a meet up at six in trouble is not happened because the why they've been the placed you know the trade the one the big frames that a lot of people miss with the focal plane. is the word respect it's always where the place in a folder is a choice the frames with respect in code from way and i style had that bus to the ground had a cleat. when i joined him in the square as helped. is how you are slowly spreading you know about the level of violence could also be seen as a way of letting off steam and now there's even been calls for making an organized
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show what rules control may and she's basically attorney from a street brawl to a mass u. of c. five what do you think about that. miss and miss on the stand the football who don't show the slide arm because over there several times over the years and actually. i don't focus but since that happens if it comes mine story home fraying with the football for years i think it's likely that i know won't know meit's the world's frame when i look at the studied ios a saw in my case the votes from within the groups in the study i'm going by you might do well with themselves. is that for you to my space by miss you know russian football fans they rave english books some hold an ism they watch movies you're one of the people that's inspired the hooligan movement in russia in the first place with your works for instance what do you make of that mr hooliganism depicted in
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books and movies more glamorous than in reality i mean does it create a sort of false attraction to the phenomena. when it comes to the films i was a film made of my life my life was my to film a lot of people one happy about i in white frankly society but when i watch the film and say there's a different story of a real person and there's a lot of loving going it's going you know what with a lot of problems with full ovata it's gooey. area it's a sawyer as a black i'm what we call and i cry as we go i have an answer for everything but sometimes there isn't there is no i won't say it is what it needs and. you know what can a site when it went to the last soldiers on the lot my history of our favorite subject and that soldiers would never talk about their experiences in a war in our sights and what is the best war film and i signed none you know and what once said to me once is no film can give you real cause and the football films
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and books only come in the trounson it's a light from moments a modern day from the moment and the reason that the in some way always because people know it's not real people were born to books and not on the who it was these people would not go that life whatsoever and society fame when you go into a book shop and buy books on crime you're not going to go hungry that book and gone rob a bank and it's a sign thing you can't just walk into a gang because you watch the film that's why i sate in those that's what was for boy so when i'm at a loss as it was a shock to me when i sate by all the fluids potter books and the film was it's how to shop there not to look they put look at a culture and look that i would just see spirit see what the west of a for many years from the fifty's which is they lived through it was a twenty four so the place it's a night is. and with the for the soviet union it wasn't conscripts on board has
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gone from universities to job sites killing someone before i played the mains got him i was single so i had no responsibility family was so there's a lot of social included some grounds but the economics a lot more wall seems to tie in with a promise of focusing on it's not really an english one but it's what we are going to sell isn't i and it's the russians say we've given the world with it but that adoption you know you've got to look at the date of fright is beyond what you see but nowadays the russian football union came up with this thing called gentle play and initiative gerry and a series of football matches in the run up to the twenty eight in world cup you know supporters a rival teams who are welcomed by russian fans with a warm blanket versus manchester united except around do you think we should it was like this really helped to create still level of tension at tournaments or is this to toothless. who goes i'm so so probably lost but i don't want.
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friends that don't so he's told me it's me friends who won't commit of send night with a man you know even devotion thing and all three is positive and one was say the phrase themselves can the law to solve a lot of problems. and one of the things i mean when it's not cold out to be a football who the majority of friends i love who is just by you see stop the violence and become a frame you go for. the problems of football no one was born to. you know those those friends first and then become who goes in just as easy got but it's a pain friends and this is the flights what's going on with shows the twenty eight shows was set the one world respects and a lot of friends that travel to these torments live out for four years oh i'm sorry about the loss of lots of money to go to torment and by sight evolved out installments and everyone is treated as
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a hoot and want to trade with nobody spate so when russians fight is an issue to slaughter it with good story and think i used to find somebody friendly and showed a french respect it creates a different atmosphere and it spreads when the place use force and it's not justified as you know all the force that is used these are over and over justified the normal friends for instance would have heard of them because life will frighten them that lives themselves and it creates an atmosphere of any case dangerous where the police have to buy cough because the whole quiet for it was law against them is an ugly act it's failed and this what sometimes causes the problem so this is his lot i bought a site frayn's can always the work respect and what you're telling me and more of see that i you know. it be respected by the monks majority of friends like the site that you get so who is from cells by of another and joined up if they're all isolated lot i then it's a easy to control and consignment you know i'm quite sure the russians with the law
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being the state a move well before it was kicked in the cup and so on it's like. all right cass thanks a lot for this interview for this interesting inside into the world of hell again isn't. the bass we're talking to cast hadn't there a former football hooligan and day into the nature of law and so on football and the dangers it may pose to had a football's biggest tournaments that's it for this edition of stuff cause the next time. thank you suffered thanks campbell. social environment. right. chemical discoveries over the last century made
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every day life easier but at what cost this is serial is exceptionally sick. no wonder it's confidential. cyst says the years old industrial giants reap the benefit ignoring the coolest by chemical production. you know as if these people aren't people just experimental animals decades later the toxic environment continues to poison lives and we found these astronomically high levels of dioxin levels that my staff think maybe some of the highest levels are in the united states for almost thirty years this very serious problem had not actually been addressed what will that investigation into the chemical industry secrets revealed. disrespect of.
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the earth. seemed wrong. to me but yet to shape out this day comes to educate and it. equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. choose to look for common ground. you know my point i wanted to. ask but i. know i lost his boss because. i brought him in. so i was you know i was you know. you know just i mean most people have sped.
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up as well i must say i mean. getting worse but those was. just. my family fussy you call credible but. yes if he thought of getting up there with you you seem to.
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