on larry king now from london the real personable russell brand when i saw my bill for the time i owned this stupid. independent. she really was and let me tell you larry charles the vicious thing even today alone she's ahead by mouth i mean this kind of behavior from an asshole i would say but fear for sure person and people the same saying that people that political figures and not reveal a lack of integrity. well it was cool to speak the language that is superficial and donald trump maybe many things and he almost certainly is well you also if he's authentic drugs would destroy in my line remember why you started. when i was

a kid a very direct and i that was something else i feel very every some mystery that is very difficult for us to contact as long as we feel. and grounded by materialism you don't want to turn fascist oh good larry i didn't want fascism look at my head econ apollonius fascists it's a rule almost jesus was exactly all next on larry king now. cheerio and welcome to larry king now in london where we welcome comedian actor radio host activist and best selling author. ease amidst a stand up tour of england an island called rebirth is a weekly news show on you to call truth and has a new book due in september called twelve so good to have you back russell it's

really lovely to be on any of your shows any of the of so many whatever format you want to talk to people in food in happily that's correct what is twelve about twelve is using the formula that i used to get clean from drugs and alcohol to change anything in your life that you want to change when i stop taking drugs i mean an abstinence based recovery program i found you know what larry the minister taking drugs as not having problems in every area is my sexual appetites became it let's call them healthy healthy robust greedy and then and also in areas such as food or won enough of people's approval i found that interesting ones of taking drugs all these other problems rose up but the twelve step program worked you know these areas twelve steps is a there are that is the original format for twelve steps alcoholics anonymous narcotics anonymous all of these various programs brilliantly deploy twelve step

recovery but what we've learned is that the twelve step program in my life and in the life of millions of other people can be worked across all sorts of addictive tendencies and i think it's because it addresses the core of many of us we have an emptiness a deep spiritual yearning that people try to fulfill for sex or drugs or food or doesn't depend on a belief in god it depends on a belief in a higher power and in a way larry got becomes a sort of a curious semantic tool doesn't god i mean i'm not a creationist so particularly christian or not surrendered to islam but i do believe in a powerful conscious force i do believe that in consciousness there is a mystery that come. the result for materialism and mechanics when you say the book is that this manual is for self realization comes not from a mountain but from the mud that my qualification is not that are better than you but worse what led you to it. what led me to that book was the

realisation that there is a tendency in me and it keeps manifesting itself in realising itself that there is a need and a hunger that doesn't seem to be able to be fulfilled without some kind of spiritual component and spirituality larry i spoke to that yanis varoufakis the other day and he said to me interestingly does it really matter if if the material world preceded spirit or if spirit preceded the material world whether or not a conscious being created the manifest world or not the fact is all of us feel the tendency towards kindness compassion and love and when we live in alignment with these tendencies we feel better and c.s. lewis wrote extensively about how we need to be good but somehow it's enough this tendency to be good what led you to get recovered the drugs would destroy in my

life there are could not stop taking drugs it was good and was alone as you get i was addicted to crack and you could if journalism often is the future of you is you'd be able to fall and that's right that's a very good skill pursue it. and it was crack and heroin larry like us that had to let the clubs that started to have lots of pretty ordinary recreational drugs that would seem fun and i'm sure often if you have that type of personality but for me in the end go into the taking crack and heroin because they have more effective more powerful so you're doing that when i interview you do a lot of that was me trauma artist to be polite. fifty eight is clean and came to my home i'm. not in a minute and then come to your home of crack an era when i was not being clean about ten nice the night of fifteen years clean melee i wasn't anywhere else going for your wife's underway jewel looking for crack and heroin what i found in there was perhaps worse some of the underwear is extremely morally dubious and i would

like to know it goes on in that manner. now i can carry meyer home how does julie menin ery how low you that you're able what was the step you took what was the first step of the how did you manage to break it for. me is what happened was is it was game with us because that crack and heroin a lot of people ease that street sleepers of people homeless i was using of a lot of homeless people and homeless myself in fact i was starting to do ok in in media but now the homeless people and i'm on occasion i went to see it like a set of like what you'd call a low level celebrity shindig not top celebrities not to came to acne hussan and now i'm talking about so people that might crop up like so of orangey people with very white teeth that come in very early in the morning and then act to jolly ninety one of them i was with that is guys and the high mistaken say well the homeless was paling if i was hanging out there and if i went to a party with emma to i was hanging out of homeless people and people will see an

odd juxtaposition these homeless people and low level celeb race was going on in this guy's life and the man management at times it was top drugs exactly are you taking it in and i was introduced to the twelve step recovery person i've met a man with a so almost dickensian name of chip soundness is in that one that sounds quite jolly but chips i was in fact was a. drug and a heroin addict at that time was fifteen six they need clean and ran a treatment center that used to twelve step principles to get people clain you remember why you started. hi jane paine well that caitiff a very a raft and very aligned and very lost and that there was something else they said i feel filled ari there is something else there is some mystery that is very difficult for us to contact as long as we feel caged and grounded by materialism except that we live in this material world and we have to come to terms with it i

accept that a body that requires food and oxygen but there is some other component that is extra material perhaps supernatural as we understand natural and it's very difficult for a person like me to leave without some access to that if you started to attain success whoa being an addict a little bit of success but i think the addiction is wrongly diagnosed i think it diction is the tendency not the symptom i think that before i started to take drugs the way the i food the way that i watched television the way that i used for not profane ohad to the qualities of addiction present was in too much truck that i was in shock obsessive play when i found pornography it was very fun if obsessive and excited not like a normal jolie update relationship with pornography that can be found in a healthy home due to make you happy drugs open up free not as a distraction as an anaesthetic for me happiness now is about connection and it's

about presence. moment to moment you became a father last year as parenthood changed you yes yes it has larry because it is difficult to maintain my personal devotion to self centeredness when so obviously i am not the nexus of the universe that become clear when the baby was born he said extraordinary by connell animal and somehow divine the ruler ring the plot to the screaming but the presence of something magical made me understand michelangelo sistine chapel in a different way it is consciousness that is gifted to us from the theory of the realm not the material life when so much the of of time i understood us i and this did meaning and dependence needed you it really does and let me tell you

larry this child's a vicious little thing even today alone and she's had by mouth and she's grabbed hold of a means of my chest hair and pulled it mane this kind of behavior from an atoll out say would be a short prison sentence six months nothing to you as fatherhood changed your comedy yeah has done it has done because it means it's changed absolutely everything about me because are the sort of now i am and this is who i am now before ourself sometimes used to feel that i had a troubadour spirit that could walk out of my house and i might end up any way i could just meet someone or a street corner. ok with that folks and that khaki just wandered off with them then they will now find me a fox in a cap and after all this and out of a calendar by be dungaree and i want it gives me as a sense of domesticity in the sense of connection a change everything comedically i think it does ring i can still be filthy and very very rude but now i know it comes from a sort of a kind of

a crucible of connection what do you think of our present. across the pond i met and i'm sure you've met him a number of times of it you know well i think is what is determining the numerous global political changes about time it's people of begun to despair of a lack of authenticity people are sensing that people the political figures are not real a lack of integrity what would call to double speak the language that is superficial and donald trump ninety many things and he almost certainly is but what he also is is authentic i think he really saw that and to not note that because does he have a philosophy that i don't think for loss of fear and authenticity necessarily correlate larry i think that when donald trump says like he's glib about race or about agenda even if you think on god i don't agree with what he's saying or agree with what he's doing compared to other figures that occupied the political

landscape he has a kind of veracity the only other figures that have it. i think jeremy corbyn in this country is an authentic man but i would agree that he's a principled and beautiful human being but he saw in this in your country seem like he had a kind of integrity but was stifled uncontained and marginalized by this sort of political process and i think that that i think that that will then to city to use a ludicrous pun trumped the political turn if this is aimed more appealing to a liberal sensibility what is happening in the world are we going through some of the yeah i think so don't you i mean you know what is it what do well i think the rejection of globalization and a return to nationalism as a result of that there's a danger in that we'll get a raise of course because of your fascism for kick off but like but but also nationalism one isn't going to work at this point nationalism is

a bogus ideology and all of these ideas i mean this. base of political and financial elites i think that what we are an important point and the result of the last british election gives me some cause for optimism because that was a return to socialist valleys and you know socialism in the nineteen fifties in your country was attacked. and subtle medine that it's impossible for people to have a kind of an open view of it now is simply sharing norway where they have like a nice or general socialism you know it seems like that would be the onset as it ari does what there are only five million people right you think it's manageable so be centralisation same to be other the other sort of communities trope that one would challenge is that mass centralization doesn't seem to work we need smaller communities we need really oh i think i'm more your man chumps cases is that close what the close are ordinary people off of political power the barrier is so de

centralized where possible have people politically engaged in their own communities and i think if the powerful continue to resist ordinary people having any form of power there will be these bizarre grotesque anomalies such as donald trump or breaks it or are turned to nationalism while people reach for identifiable signal identifiable symbols and recognizable narratives unless there is significant real change you don't want to turn fascist though i'm good larry i'm not fascism look at my head you can apollonian fascists it's a rule you're almost jesus or like exactly what j.c. is a fascist i don't think so i don't think you can go to rob him as a good place for a break isn't it true that like jesus and jesus one of fascists will be right back . but. for decades the american middle class has been railroaded by washington politics.

big body corporate it has thrown down a lot of boys that's how it is in the new culture in this country now that's where i come in. i mean it's still on our to america i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk in the break. what to do. here's what people have been saying about redacted in this actually just pull on ourselves the only show i go out of my way to find you really want is the really packs a punch and leave yap is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are apparently better than the blue. sea people you've never heard of love redacted the next president of the world bank hate the world seriously send us an email. we're back with russell brand a reporter recently wrote this

about your comedy you quickly realize brand is humble and he's given credit for likes the idea of making a difference despite not always knowing the best way to achieve it while i don't know the best way to achieve making a difference who does i mean yeah i mean i think it probably is true i am returning in my own life to quite simple principles such as kindness and compassion and the knowledge meant all of us i'm some level feel lonely and all of us on some level feel fear that there is a dear old food michel fuko god love him coming along saying there's no universal is what i think they're all universal was i think all of us feel fear i think all of us feel inadequate and i think all of us have the capacity for love and compassion and i think that i'm a my personal philosophy is about trying where possible to overcome my own personal tyranny my own personal narcissism our friend saying this is a new russell some of my friends are saying this isn't a russell that russell has changed as a result becoming

a father that i'm into. rested in different things it's not put aside my grandiosity and my grand ambitions is that i'm content to see what develops i'm content to say where things go i'm interested to see what will happen now like that it's not a foregone conclusion what's going on in the world now i don't think it necessarily has to be a dreadful deterioration but it evidently will have to be change all right we're going to play a little game of of you only knew i'd like to do it who was your childhood celebrity crush i was always a big fan of elvis presley and girl girl quiet that were common areas to facets are i wonder woman i like to wonder woman a lot of you do like to kiss the screen sheepy that even once they should get a static shock from the screen because technology was not as announced linda carr i think she was going oh oh kate in owner i was with robert altman the great man who got us on the other one that he never. was your guilty pleasure

guilty used to be chocolates i don't feel i don't feel guilty it was pointless just pleasure i mean what about that for the general i did this really bad plan those bloody computer games that play station i lose myself in a world around a pretend pirate hull myself into a pixilated world of meaninglessness or does some people like that was his name real clever clogs tests like i ain't on moscow every scold a lot he would say this reality is a construction anyway but he says that in the back of that data you have a secret talent yes i've been trying to show people that i was interested. who would you trade places with for a day just for one day larry one day i think i'd like to spend a day as larry king monthly set up a guy for your wife's underwear drawer with a little more detail because that ten minutes i spent rummaging around in there but as you find there was some beautiful alondra i simply useful learned to write by

and an absence of sex. which leads me to believe that you are doing a great job in that marriage keep it out that's the case she was mad that you did not match the broad in the panties she was annoyed about that she was i was hoping that she might step in a self what is something we should all be paying more attention to consciousness make nice with a now selves the thing that feels the feelings feels inadequate who is it that feels sexually aroused while going through diary kings wife straws luxury you can't live without luxury a conclave without wishing for some sort of hair tonic or some sort of meditate i mean i don't know if it's some sort of horseless strangers job. i was nearly the man introduces strippers in a strip club outpatient to be that guy but i think i was a blip it out larry i couldn't hold it back even in the nation they would like there were women there that were going to be working to strip us and i was like oh my god how much easier them and to not this guy is now to be reliable links what do

you wish you were better at i wish that i could get in and out of a person's bedroom more quickly revile been noticed while they're doing a live t.v. show down stay as grab their wife's dry oh out the door of up and saying i've got what's on my cab very do you have a favorite vice no not vice larry no more vices no more ghosts really had a love that might turn funny is family encounter room. fanning countess will do happen do that was fam that was kind of weird. well of course larry as a younger man that i used to approach my fans on an agricultural by cease as if they could be humans that could be harvested in kano fashion so i mean every minute i was a player i was a placid and it's not time to stop being

a player i mean it was numerous i mean i don't know if they were meeting larry but i was certainly very enjoyable sometimes how families they treat me like a dialler thing. so ways of doing people don't know about you. russell what is it that happened i don't know about you that i kate base you know lose sixty thousand base. is sixty thousand babies that cape in the garden there in a pipe i've done i mean they have not taken their honey i'm not sure that is moral i've got some chickens i'm not sure i can take their eggs in a moment for that small so i've got all these animals and i'm not taking their stuff off them anymore so no one knows that about me and also you may not know i'm doing a degree in religion in global politics as university laying on about the intersection between the political world and the religious vote so i'm privately keeping base ball there in chickens and learning about ontology you're brilliant in your stew

weird. we have many social media questions for you meghan beth kenney were three if you could have dinner with any could be the living or dead would you want to have dinner with comedian whoville. can i have one i'd like very much to bill hicks plays i'd like to have dinner with bill hicks is very amazing american comedian he was a very great genius of the whole country new culture he died sat in about nine hundred ninety two a was as i was he was somewhat like george carlin somewhat like lenny bruce i knew george and lenny very well and never heard of bill hicks or given all these minute dad i'm not in the dead of any of them am i ok psylocke i mean whichever of they want great men that's now sadly date i mean our take any one of those three ok the new labor if there's a very well is every school for him does ever get drugs for him nope and i know how he got addicted he got addicted when he was very sick there he gave a morphine and that's how he got the big probably spend in tommy here i imagine he

probably wanted to unwind own son a hospital i mean beach. he was for terrific do you have do you have a do one liner jokes ryan clark asks. i didn't know one one i semi on when you are not really a con everything seems to take a long while i wish i had the brevity i wish i could be like your great president lincoln who said i didn't have time to write a sure letter for me everything is very biased call monro any helen mirren stories from arthur to oh my god yeah it was amazing i had a mirror in a really lovely woman she's terrific she used to give a lot of the same machete give me a bath and i for just forget that this is acting and actually use it for sexual fulfillment or just ignore these people are hanging around filming it interests you know had there's a particular area that needs a damn good scrap headed she was a very game woman she thought. it made me think you know larry there is people have

a sort of a spirit they're cool because the fact that she was older was irrelevant there was some spark in a very very straight girl just that spock was i wanted to run a movie that's kind of its x. our fans are strong modest my dancey do you invest in any interesting projects with your own money. does revere i money now and i know sure babies show business and i want to ask that question we. have that africa wants to know why it did you go to university and what do you play any day what do you plan to do after you graduate. if i graduate because i can get in a lot of trouble for not doing the homework because the problem is even though my adult now now i mean this educational context whenever i say that homework i'm up doing that because i've still my little kid mind you study religion in global politics or cycles of ontology political theory is deep max weber's amazing heavy

stuff too cause they're all in there you know getting good grades and look at any grades to that and give the stuff i have. not done it and then do the speeches at the front that's what they do you know are you going to school i want to understand i want to understand how power i want to understand how the systems work you've been working this job for ages and ages interviewed probably some of the greats the most influential political fare figures great raw is about time i want to know what pattens there are and if there are patterns how can you use them how can you or them and most importantly how can you convey to people on mass what's actually happening so that they can split this veneer of nonsense that most people live and labor around and tell them the truth that there is no reason that a small economic elite should prosper while ordinary people suffer maria law and do you want to have more children and what's the best thing in your partner that made you to be the mother of your child. i do want more children and she has

easy compassion my girlfriend she's real and beautiful and fun there are loads of qualities but for me being with her feels like coming home wherever i am if i'm with her for i couldn't have to try and write a new new movie plans maria really a month might want to bow out and i know that i'm talking to some people but the moment read a show or i want to do it and finally is small mom what's your biggest regret memory deprogramming da i mean not going to so i regret yeah i wish i had. never smoked. come on you've got that lovely voice yeah go so got a heart attack yeah but come on the have a now and we could be sitting on. well didn't show up after the break oh good we told you to break you know if. you did you ever actually done a nuclear bomb you probably would know would you oh really now i think. i still owe

you haven't really changed thank you very king larry king russell brand of a friend look for his new book twelve that's coming this information down to see him live if you want to see it live go to his website have a look if you want russell brand dot com to anyone on the above it and as always you can find me on twitter. at kings things he taught things when he's drunk and listening to president boy she had a four tonight well and that's very respectful to my culture thank you. it's.

called the food we don't need. everyone in the world should experience flu and you'll get it on the old the old. the old according to gesture. welcome the modern world come along for the rock. our culture is awash in lives dominated by streams of never ending electronic hallucinations that birthed fiction until they are indistinguishable we have become the most deluded society on politics as a species of endless and needless political theater politicians have morphed into celebrity are two ruling parties are in reality one party to corporate and those

who attempt to puncture this vast breathless universe of fake news just signed to push through the cruelty and exploitation of the neo liberal or are forced so far to the margins of society including by a public broadcasting system that has sold its soul for corporate money that we might as well be mice squeaking against an avalanche but squeak we must. your watching our team america special report. this bug me as much fun to. quickly everything that you think you know about civil society has broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be in this on the normalising mind. we don't need people that think like this on our planet. this is.