to talk about these con artists. i'm going to paint a clear picture about how disturbing council brought forward conduct has been in march these are stories that you know no exception to my parents or your host the american. west. when i'm still in my bill for the time this dude. independent. she really was i'm let me tell you larry the child's a vicious thing even today alone she's ahead by mouth i mean this kind of behavior from an asshole outside a beer for sure prison and people the same saying that people to political figures and not reveal a lack of integrity. well it was cool to speak the language that is superficial and donald trump one theme anything and he almost said. well you also if he's

authentic the drugs would destroy him either i remember why you started. well as a kid a very direct and i that was something else i feel very every some mystery that is very difficult for us to contact as long as we feel. and grounded by materialism you don't want to turn fascist though. i didn't want fascism look at my head. fascists it's a rule almost jesus taught exactly all next stop larry king now. cheerio and welcome to larry king now in london where we welcome comedian actor radio host activist and best selling author. iis amidst a stand up tour of england the island called rebirth is a weekly news show on you to call truth and has

a new book due in september called twelve so good to have you back russell it's really lovely to be on any shows any of the of so many whatever format you want to talk to people in sit in happily that's correct what is twelve about twelve is using the formula that i used to get clean from drugs and alcohol to change anything in your life that you want to change when i stop taking drugs i mean an abstinence based recovery program a found do you know what larry the minister taking drugs as not having problems in every area is my sexual appetites became it let's call them healthy healthy robust greedy and then and also in areas such as food or warning of a people's approval i found that interesting ones of taking drugs all these other problems rose up but the twelve step program worked in lee's areas of stubbs's a there that is the original format for twelve steps alcoholics anonymous narcotics

anonymous all of these various programs brilliantly deploy twelve step recovery but what we've learned is that the twelve step program in my life and in the life of millions of other people can be worked across all sorts of addictive tendencies and i think it's because it addresses the core of many of us we have an emptiness a deep spiritual yearning that people try to fulfill for sex or drugs or food or doesn't depend on a belief in god it to depend on a belief in a higher power and in a way larry got becomes a sort of curious semantic tool doesn't god i mean i'm not a creationist so particularly christian or not surrendered to islam but i do believe in a powerful conscious force i do believe that in consciousness there is a mystery that come. the result for materialism and mechanics when you say the book is that this manual is for self realization comes not from

a mountain but from the mud that my qualification is not that are better than you but that i am worse what led you to it. what led me to that book was the realisation that there is a tendency in me and it keeps manifesting itself in realising itself that there is a need and a hunger that doesn't seem to be able to be fulfilled without some kind of spiritual component and spirituality larry i spoke to that yanis varoufakis the other day and he said to me interestingly does it really matter if if the material world preceded spirit or if spirit preceded the material world whether or not a conscious being created the manifest world or not the fact is all of us feel the tendency towards kindness compassion and love and when we live in alignment with these tendencies we feel better and c.s. lewis wrote extensively about how we need to be good but somehow it's enough this

tendency to be good what led you to get recovered the drugs would destroy in my life there are could not stop taking drugs it was good and was a load as you get i was addicted to crack and if you could if jenna is a muffin is the future of you is your baby's fall and that's right that's a very good skill pursue it. and it was crack and heroin larry like us that had to let the clubs that started to have lots of pretty ordinary recreational drugs that would seem fun and i'm sure often if you have that type of personality but many in the end go into the taking crack and heroin because they have more effective more powerful are you doing that when i need to view you do not know that was me trauma artist to be polite company that fifty eight is clean and came to my home i'm. not in a minute and then come to your home of crack an era when i was not being clean about ten nice then night fifteen years clean melee i wasn't anywhere else going

for your wife's underway tool looking for crack and heroin what i found in there was perhaps worse some of the underwear is extremely morally dubious and i would like to know it goes on in that man. now i can carry meyer home how did you lean in there a how low you did you're able what was the step you took what was the first step of the how did you manage to break it for. me is what happened was is it was game with us because that crack and heroin a lot of people ease that street sleep is that people hotness i was using of a lot of homeless people wasn't homeless myself in fact i was starting to do ok in sort of in media but now the homeless people and i'm on occasion i went to see it like a set of like what you'd call a low level celebrity shindig not top celebrities you know to came tacony hussan and now i'm talking about so people that might crop up like so of orangey people with very white teeth that come in very early in the morning and act to jolly nine

of them i was with that is guys and the high mistaken say well the homeless was paling if i was hanging out there and if i went to a party with them up to i was hanging out of homeless people and people will when i see an odd juxtaposition these homeless people and low level celeb race was going on in this guy's life and the man management at times it was top drugs exactly are you taking him and i was introduced to the twelve step recovery person i've met a man with the so almost dickensian name of chips on this is now and i'm a sounds quite jolly but chips i was in fact was a. drug and a heroin addict at that time was fifteen six they need clean and ran a treatment center that used to twelve step principles to get people claim you remember why you started playing games when i was a kid a very a raft and very aligned and very lost and that it was something else they say i feel failed arey there is something else there is some mystery that is very difficult for us to contact as long as we feel caged and grounded by materialism i

accept that we live in this material world and we have to come to terms with it i accept that a body that requires food. but there is some other component that is extra material perhaps supernatural as we understand natural and it's very difficult for a person like me to leave without some access to that if you started to attain success whoa being an addict a little bit of success but i think the addiction is wrongly diagnosed i think it diction is the tendency not the symptom i think that before i started to take drugs the way the i food the way that i watched television the way that i used for no graffiti all had to the qualities of addiction present was in too much truck that i was a in chocolate obsessive play when i found pornography it was very fun if obsessive and excited not like a normal jolie update relationship with pornography that can be found in a healthy home do to make you happy drugs open up free now is

a distraction is an anesthetic for me happiness now is about connection and it's about presence. moment to moment you became a father last year as parenthood changed you yes yes it has larry because it is difficult to maintain my personal devotion to self centeredness when so obviously i am not the nexus of the universe that become clear when the baby was born he said extraordinary by connell animal and somehow divine the ruler ring the plot to the screaming but the presence of something magical made me understand michelangelo sistine chapel in a different way it is consciousness that is gifted to us from the theory of the realm not the material life when so much the of of time i understood us

i and this did meaning and dependence hugh needed you she really does and let me tell you larry this child's a vicious little thing she's even today alone and she's helped by mother she's grappa hold of a means of my chest hair and pulled it in this kind of behavior from an atoll out would be a short prison sentence six months nothing to as fatherhood changed your comedy yeah has done it has done because it means it's changed absolutely everything about me because are the sort of now i am and this is who i am now before ourself sometimes used to feel that i had to troubadour spirit i could walk out of my house and i might end up any way i could just meet someone or a street corner. ok with that folks and that khaki just wandered off with them then they will now find me a folks in a cap and after all this and out of a calendar by the dungaree i want it gives me is a sense of domesticity in the sense of connection a child everything comedically i think it does ring i can still be filthy and very

very rude but now i know it comes from a sort of a kind of a crucible of connection what do you think of our present. back across the pond i met him i'm sure you've met him a number of times of it you know well i think is what is determining the numerous global political changes about time is people of begun to despair of a lack of authenticity people are sensing that people the political figures are not real lack of integrity what we would call to double speak the language that is superficial and donald trump ninety many things and he almost certainly is but what he also is is authentic i think he really saw that and to not know that because does he have a philosophy that i don't think for loss of fear and authenticity necessarily correlate larry i think that when donald trump says like he's glib about race or

about agenda even if you think on god i don't agree with what he's saying or agree with what he's doing compared to other figures that occupied the political landscape he has a kind of veracity the only other figures that have it. i think jeremy corbyn in this country is an authentic man but i would agree that he's a principled and beautiful human being bernie saunders in your country seem like he had a kind of integrity but was stifled uncontained and marginalized by this sort of political process and i think that that i think that that will then to city to use a ludicrous pun trumped the political turn if this is aimed more appealing to a liberal sensibility what is happening in the world are we going through some of the year and i think so don't you i mean you don't what is it what do well i think the rejection of globalization and a return to nationalism as a result of that there's a danger in that we'll get

a raise of course because of fascism for kick off but like but but also nationalism one isn't going to work at this point nationalism is a bogus ideology and all of these ideas i mean this. base of political and financial elites i think that what we are an important point and the result of the last british election gives me some cause for optimism because that was a return to socialist valleys and you know socialism in the nineteen fifties in your country was attacked gresham ensoulment lined that is impossible for people to have a kind of an open view of it now is simply sharing norwich on earth where they have like a nicer general socialism you know it seems like that would be the onset isn't it larry does what they're only five million people right you think is manageable so be centralisation seem to be other the other sort of communities trope that one would challenge is that mass centralization doesn't seem to work we need smaller communities we need really what i think and what your man chump ski says is the

closer what the close are ordinary people are to political power the barrier is so decentralized where possible have people politically engaged in their own communities and i think if the powerful continue to resist ordinary people having any form of power there will be these bizarre grotesque anomalies such as donald trump or breaks it or are turned to nationalism while people reach for identifiable signal identifiable symbols and recognizable narratives unless there is significant real change you don't want to turn fascist though i'm good larry at that not fascism look at my head you can't have learned fascists it's a rule or was jesus ojt exactly and which is a fascist i don't think so i don't think you can go to rob him as a good place for a break isn't it true that like jesus and jesus one of fascists will be right back .

here's what people have been saying about rejected in the us and i think it's pull along. the only show i go out of my way to gently is the really packs of. yam is the john oliver of marty americans do the same we are apparently better than . the c. people you never heard of love back to the night president of the world bank they. sent us an e-mail. all the world's a stage and all the news companies merely players but what kind of parties aren't american players are to america offers more artsy american person.

in many ways the music landscape is just like if you really make me good actors that act and in the end you could never you're on. the park in all the world all the world's a stage we are definitely a player. the bottom of. the ladder the i was. close was a had at. the law the last. we're back with russell brand a reporter recently wrote this about your comedy you

quickly realize brand is humble and he's given credit for likes the idea of making a difference despite not always knowing the best. way to achieve it well i don't know the best way to achieve making a difference who does i mean yeah i mean i think it probably is true i am returning in my own life to quite simple principles such as kindness and compassion and the acknowledgment all of us i'm some level feel lonely and all of us on some level feel fear that there is a dear old food michel fuko god love him coming along saying there's no universal is what i think there are universal as i think all of us feel fear i think all of us feel inadequate and i think all of us have the capacity for love and compassion and i think that i'm a my personal philosophy is about trying where possible to overcome my own personal tyranny my own personal narcissism our friend saying this is a new russell some of my friends are saying this isn't a russell that russell has changed as a result of becoming

a father that i'm interested in different things it's not put aside my grandiosity and my grand ambitions is that i'm content to see what develops i'm content to see where things go i'm interested to see what will happen now like that it's not a foregone conclusion what's going on in the world now i don't think it necessarily has to be a dreadful deterioration but it evidently will have to be change all right we're going to play a little game of of you only knew i'd like to do it who was your childhood celebrity crush i was always a big fan of elvis presley and girl girl quiet walk on a common areas two facets are i wonder woman i like to wonder woman a lot of you do like to kiss the screen should be that even if they should get a static shock from the screen because technology is not as announced linda carr i think she was going oh oh kate in owner as with robert altman great man got us on the other they never. was your guilty pleasure guilty used to be

chocolate i don't feel i don't feel guilty it was pointless just pleasure i mean what about that today. again i do this really bad plan those bloody computer games that play station i lose myself in a world around a pretend pirate hull myself into a pixilated world of meaninglessness although some people like that was his name clever clogs tesla guy a known moscow every scold or about he would say this reality is a construction anyway but he says that in the back of that data you have a seat with talent yes i've been trying to show people that i was interested in who would you trade places with for a day just for one day larry one day i think i'd like to spend a day as larry king mostly set up a guy for your wife's underwear drawer with a little more detail because that ten minutes are spent rummaging around in there but did you find there was some beautiful laundry or i simply useful laundry right

and an absence of sex toys which leads me to believe that you are doing a great job in that marriage keep it up just a case she was mad that you did not match the bra in the panties she was annoyed about that she was i was hoping that she might step in a self what is something we should all be paying more attention to consciousness make nice with a now selves the thing that feels the feelings feels inadequate who is it that feels sexually around us while going through diary kings wife straws luxury you can't live without luxury a con if without food things probably some sort of hair tonic or some sort of meditate i mean i don't know it must be some sort of horseless strangers job. i was nearly the man introduces strippers in a strip club and to be that guy i was a blue area couldn't hold it down even in the nation that would like there were women there that were going to be working the strippers and i was like oh my god all the cheese in them and in what this guy is not and be reliable. what do you

wish you were better at i wish that i could get in and out of a person's bedroom more quickly revile been noticed while they're doing a live t.v. show down stay as grab their wife's lawn dry oh out the door of up and saying i've got to work on my cab very do you have a favorite vice no no vice larry no more vices no more ghosts really gotta love that my turn funny is famine counter room. fanning countess will do happen do that was spam that was kind of weird well of course there is a younger man that i used to approach my fans on an agricultural by cease as if they could be humans that could be harvested in kano fashion so i mean every minute i was a player i was a placid this not on stuffing

a platter i mean it was numerous i mean i don't know if they are amusing larry but i was certainly very enjoyable sometimes whole families they treat me like a dialler. so be something people don't know about you. russell what is it that happened i don't know about you that i kate base. sixty thousand base. is sixty thousand days that cape in the garden there in a pipe i've done coming they have not taken their honeycomb the shoulder is moral i've got some chickens i'm not sure i can take their eggs a moment for that small so i've got all these animals and i'm not taking the stuff off them anymore so no one knows that about me and also you may not know i'm doing a degree in religion in global politics as university laying on about the intersection between the political world and the religious vote someone privately keeping bases both are in chickens and learning about ontology. your brilliant genius stu weird. we have many social media questions for you meghan beth kenney

were three if you could have dinner with any could be the in living or dead would you want to have dinner with comedian whom. can i have one i'd love very much to bill hicks plays i'd like to have dinner with bill hicks is a very amazing american comedian he was a very great genius of your country in your culture he died sadly in about nine hundred ninety two a was as i was he was somewhat like george carlin somewhat like lenny bruce i knew george and lenny very well and never heard of bill hicks or given all these minute dad i'm not in the dead of any of them am i ok satellite i mean whichever of they once great men that's now sadly dead i mean are take any one of those three ok the new labor if they share it well is every school friends ever get drugs for him hope and i know how he got addicted he got addicted when he was very sick there he gave a morphine and that's how we got to probably spend in tommy here i imagine he

probably wanted to unwind own son a hospital i mean beach. he was five to rethink do you have do you have a do one liner jokes ryan clark asks. i didn't know one one i semi on when nine or really a con everything seems to take a long while i wish i had the brevity i wish i could be like your great president lincoln who said like i didn't have time to write a sure letter from a everything is very bias call monro any helen mirren stories from author to oh my god yeah it was amazing i had a mirror in a really lovely woman she's terrific she used to give a lot of the same machete give me a bath and i for just forget that if she's acting and actually use it for sexual fulfillment just ignore these people to hang around filming it interests you know had there's a particular area that needs a damn good scrap headed she was a very game woman she thought. it made me think you know larry that there is

a people have a sort of a spirit they're cool because the fact that she was older was irrelevant it was some spark in a very very strange girl just that spock was i wanted a movie that's kind of yes x. our fans are strong modest my dancy do invest in any interesting projects with your own money. does revere i money now i know sure babies show business and i want to ask that question we. have that every girl wants to know why it did you go to university and what do you play any day what do you plan to do after you graduate. if i graduate because i can get in a lot of trouble for not doing the homework because the problem is even though my adult now now i mean this educational context when i say that homework from doing that because i've still my little kid my interest in religion in global politics or cycles of ontology political theory is deep max weber's amazing heavy stuff to

cause they're all in there you know getting good grades and look at any grades to that and give the stuff i have. not done it and then do the speeches at the front that's what they do you know are you going to school i want to understand i want to understand how power works i want to understand how these systems work you've been working this job for ages and ages you've interviewed probably some of the greats the most influential political fair figures great raw is about time i want to know what patterns there are and if there are patterns how can you use them how can you or them most importantly how can you convey to people on mass what's actually happening so that they can split this veneer of nonsense that most people live and labor around and tell them the truth that there is no reason that a small economic elite should prosper while ordinary people suffer maria law and do you want to have more children and what's the best thing in your partner that made you to be the mother of your child i do want more children and she has

easy compassion my girlfriend she's real and beautiful and fun there are loads of qualities but for me being with her feels like coming home wherever i am if i'm with her for i couldn't have to try and write a new movie plans. really a month might want to bow out and i know that i'm talking to some people but the moment read a show or i want to do it and finally is small mom what's your biggest regret memory deprogramming da i mean like in a so i regret yeah i wish i had. never smoked. come on you've got that lovely voice yeah go so got a heart attack yeah but come on the have a now and we could be sitting on. welcome to the show coming up after the break oh good we told you to break you know if pretty sure if i want you to actually done a nuclear bomb you probably would know would you oh really now i think. i still owe

you haven't really changed thank you very king larry king for surrender forever and look for his new book twelve that's coming this information down to see him live if you want to see it live go to his website have a look if you want russell brand dot com to anyone on the above it and as always you can find me on twitter. at kings things he taught things when he's drunk and listening to president boy so you know for tonight well that's very respectful to my culture i thank you. that's. what politicians do. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. some want to be rich. but you're going to be the

first to see what before three of the more people. interested in the waters in the . flesh should. all the world's a stage and all the news companies merely players but what kind of parties are anti america play party america offers more artsy america first. in many ways the news landscape is just like the future real movie big news good actors bad actors and in the end you could never know you're on. the park you need all the world's a stage all the world's a stage all the world's a stage we are definitely

a player. thousands of russian speaking children are stranded as old friends in iraq off to bed parents allegedly died fighting for terrorists. the french government reveals that hundreds of extremists have returned to the country to join the islamic states and many are still on the loose. and police in the u.k. launch an ad aimed at countering far right hate crime. that's it for me for now kevin and will be live from here almost studio in around an hour's time don't go away.