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the problems unfortunately i would like to mention. serious problems which we can't just. create a better possibility for joy would you say the the georgian media provides and balanced coverage of those events no absolutely not of course. may be clear they need to was. truly a national movement. nevertheless i didn't see released investigations to journalistic investigation in the media or even some tests to show pictures from different sides. for example and i mentioned. the. problem was that. war.
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really was the person who is most responsible in these tragic events i was the clear. just. treat all by media and media representatives and even despite openness to gay shit in a film made by a european union peace prize levinas the collaboration this party talks of the things that everybody knows what really happened. to cities to begin the war these. very uncomfortable enjoy it nobody wants to. see them to say that they were about western media do you think their coverage provides a balanced view on the events of two thousand and eight do viewers in the west have a more. you know view of what's going on you know because the main problem here is. not. this side is russia for the ration and right now.
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everywhere in the world to blame. everything what russian made and what didn't make it make the so of course. unfortunately unfortunately despite old. provocative actions from the side i truly many times would actually use the. russian intervention had to place into cells and aid and russian military bases to break enjoy themselves or. even steal. a so-called station process. in. georgia which is very painful but nevertheless nobody wants to show pictures from two different sides what was the fall of joy. and what russia made and how russia used.
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tapes made from outside. of course. very comfortable for a western politicians and for western media to be used. to show. only negative. light. reports by a swiss diplomat. she says the president president mikheil saakashvili started the conflict used against civilians forbidding weapons including cluster munitions during his bombing of the inquiry why hasn't he been prosecuted you know i think it was a political decision for a georgian government and not only georgian government but from the side of some forces in the west especially in the united states. supported maybe.
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and even more sometimes i have a feeling that despite of official position of the united states high officials there were some a very strong force. maybe just here we're trying to force a really order. to begin this war in two thousand and eight you remember that it was the pre-election period in the united states and it was a very useful for some. aggressive forces in the us to use a given to russian. t.v. . from another side of course i had the feeling and i had the big hole in two thousand and twelve when georgian dream came. into the problem as they'd say well you know it's. not only two thousand and eight but the. president and his team and they will prosecute. it would be here it might be
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a very serious step even for solution of relations between georgia and. i saw that nobody wants a restoration of justice nobody wants really to hold the files which will show what he was doing during his presidency in the reality maybe towards some kind of pressure from the side of. the united states yes it was some pressure but i'm sure that having it really mr geisha and having this serious investigation. might give us some possibility even for georgian dream to show everything to the west western representative sample say that you should not accept a person who is doing things like a. circus reduce potential return he is now being shipped to his ukrainian citizenship. do you think what you. think rather cool. fall from
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grace and church or short period of time by the way he's really uncomfortable for the leaders in ukraine because the country is really corrupted countries really in trouble. in the position and being in a position. quite strong so i think that he created some kind of strength for today's ukrainian leadership or maybe to receive some kind of instructions because i'm absolutely sure that he's a part. part of some kind of program. to be. continuing everything the same what he was doing in georgia and of course. could be used. for the problems aside because they begin want to. use ukraine to russian. in the world political
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game immediately when. the citizenship of ukraine he was in c. and then and. international media. all these interviews people begin from the words the biggest fight they gave begins the biggest fight against russia do you think this is. the time of the. ability for what. you know nobody nobody is sure that it's a possibility. after all gets to cells and date because it was a general is that nobody's responsible and no but the just. paid a price for just. beginning war nobody. paid a price that people. on time nobody paid
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a price is. for example departure for joy was. the government took four seats left even while. shooting and so on and there was no investigation. but the responding for what it was and from the side of georgian politically. the georgian dream when they came to though at the top of her relations with russia i. think. it's nothing serious a years of transcending just. a great culture products but this is not important what is important to have real serious political dialogue this is very important if you remember president putin suggested three times as he's ready to meet my level georgian officials president
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prime minister and the answer was absolutely tragic answer from the side the president was i will ask my western colleagues and then i decide to me to put this is a tragedy for the tree this is this means that enjoyed is losing its independence if your president your prime minister asking. to be shooting from the side of the u.s. and the city. how can we speak about some serious dialogue between these two countries. i can really enjoy dreams as a last let's say five golden years for solving the many problems which exist in front of the door in front of my country and they. really lose this possibility to speak. russian praised they didn't use the you know two years of georgia that have independently been building their own states their own. nations for the past nine years arguably much longer how do you begin to fix
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the situation how do you begin to deescalate and as you say unify you know first of all i would like to stress it very seriously that george and george are not sessions we have a centuries of. history of friendship and. i'm sure that this century. but what is very important important we should not forget that pain right now which exists after the strike. or said. this pain is very strong but the we have to begin to speak with these people we have to rebuild that these bridges which existed during many centuries and which we have to ensure that as. being part of united georgia will be
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much more safe and more comfortable for them and then to be. separated from the rest and part of georgia and these people should have absolutely one hundred percent insurance that nobody in the future will repeat the same. deed or what happened because. this is very important of course i am not naive and i understand that it will be quite difficult then they just need a lot of time but i'm sure that if you will from one side will begin a direct dialogue. and from another side will find a solution in our relations with russia this could be possible but the problem is just the georgian government is losing time and the time is not working. for georgia. the situation when we are not to use things the possibility to. data
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data we saw russia. creating get more and more problems on the way of the unification and this is the problem. social environment. right. chemical discoveries over the last century made every day life easier but at what cost this is serial is exceptionally sick. no wonder it's confidential. says fifty years old industrial giants reaps the benefit ignoring the cools by chemical production. you know as if these people aren't people just experimental animals decades later the toxic environment continues to poison lives and we found these astronomically high levels of dioxin levels that my staff think maybe some of the highest levels ever found in
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the united states for almost thirty years this very serious problem had not actually been addressed what will that investigation into the chemical industry secrets revealed. to specific. area of a group of charlatans on wall street and around the world that are pushing on to the investment public securities that are not going to last and it will cause terrific pain but it's enabled by the central banks thank you the interest rates low so the cost of fraud is always going down. seemed wrong. why don't we all just don't all. let me. get to shape out these days become educated and in the game equals betrayal.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. to forgive him he said. looking up a bit better. than the for. now signal he would be useful if he's. really talking to the. nut of them. that again that was a good one he gave each of. the men a lot of interest comedies but i'm a look at him as art when i was up the money into the magazine about. making money i like my. poem is. to say. that there we go places with
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a long. long way to be made by. other people more gulf ohmss was on the road. was like yeah. i. was there was. that was i. i was. i. is there any chance a possibility the georgia would recognize
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a prize here and south the city is sovereign states for me no i will never recognize. and so called. an independent. think if any georgian politician will do this. he will leave there of peace very very soon because despite problems despite of the difficulties which exist in georgian society the spiders are fed sometimes. just. as they should just when people are relieved because of for difficult social and the economy if you will look very deeply you will see as they put every joy for everybody up. here and unification of the country is very important well just before. you. resigned temporarily you put your political career. exactly just before the
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conflict broke out why is that you know because you know i i saw that really is driving the country in wrong direction after our crisis in two thousand and seven and the second election itself. promise to me that he will change his policy he will change his internal and international policy that he will respect democratic values much more then here because he was just really relating to the verdict seriously in the country he promised to muse that he will change his position with the pressure and with the conflict regions and he will begin the negotiation process but i remember quite well and eight when we were very near to as they were in applies the. country doing. people around him. just were doing and. idolizes they were giving. these
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i saw that unfortunately i will have no any kind of mechanisms to every very serious problems for the country in the future and of course i said really. either you are just doing what you promised or i will leave because i don't want to be a part of the process process which is reading my country in absolutely wrong direction and. very serious problems because of why i decided to leave well eventually you came back when you found that the democratic movement united georgia party what motivated you to come back only was only war because before war i had a very strong decision made for myself at least a few years i will not. i will continue to be. somehow political life or for georgia and i will try and just i wanted to see what is going
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to lead me from this side to understand the situation may be more just. from the side but what had happened what happened in two thousand and eight and the specially when i saw the reaction of course celebrating so-called week. when i saw absolutely and their reaction from the side of the political forces unfortunately from the side of the big part of society i and the students i have no right. side i have obligation in front of my people and in front of the event in front of these people who don't understand they send blaming to me as a traitor i have an obligation in front of future generations to do something to change the situation and to survive the jury in the last elections you didn't get any seats your party didn't get in sheets well. united national movement almost
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a third of the seats in parliament why is that the ideas in the beliefs of. his party still popular. in some part of the population or. fortunately yes because during. the poll he was able to use the media and using good t.v. . somehow. change the people's mind in views and it was a very serious. during this period but he has a maximum of fifteen percent of support of the much more more than twenty percent and begin this is because of two reasons one was that reason to give any money surely use this and his foresees as the main oppositional force and the second was of course very serious process of my mutilation of elections. picking
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a place it's quite easy to see. the conclusion of. elections just mentioned verdict clearly is that it's accounting process of choice is what's bad all very well. recognisable politicians in georgia the presidential elections are just around the corner and for the taxi drove the big board here from the airport you said you would have voted for you you know a very very big firm you blood and running you know first of all yes i am planning to. planning to. run for presidential elections but again you need to depend to a georgian team will do because they're just changing the legislation they wanted to change legislation enjoyed to make georgia absolutely parliamentary republic they wanted to elect the next president of joy. directly
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elections they wanted to eleven georgian president the parliament which of course means that somebody will put the. any person. and just bring him in presidential presidential palace and this somebody will be busy they were initially fasting will be changed. position will be strong enough to not to not to allow the georgian dream to make such kind of constitutional changes because it means. more will be the company. and this is absolutely nothing but. the ready and continue. for. life there will be presidential elections i will participate in this election.
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because despite of. the parliamentary elections he was the only one of the political party in georgia. positional. keep say you need. to parliamentary elections results have been ours and we continue to for. just as we continue our efforts to protect. and fortunately and justice system of justice enjoy so just. it was impossible to achieve anything would you change what's your program preferred about your foreign policy what about your domestic program which would you offer the georgian people you know first to fall of course. the foreign policies verde serious priority for me and the first one will do you will try to
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have. president putin to begin very serious negotiation directed negotiation. and of course one of the first steps will be to give. my. representatives. doesn't that mean that i will recognize them. as it is an independent state but will find a way begin a negotiation process between me and between them and sending domestic policy of course many things have been should be changed first of all sure absolutely sure there was a development of the country it's important to ration of justice process of restoration of justice why not because you know i am angry. somebody else and i
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want to punish them because for them ocracy it's very important. even as a country the rule of law really exists and the rule of law means that if the president was guilty he should be punished just the ordinary citizen was guilty and should be punished and everybody should be equal in front. of the law and even once and forever in georgia will created the situation when you know as a president toys this picture of the problem and it should not do wrongs things as are wise. to model is a day after tomorrow it will change troy generality absolutely fully it will to have. results on the corruption it will have serious results on many different. fields. and of course the biggest priority will be us economy can social situation in the country i want to see georgia
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as a social country which will give the protection elementary protection to his own citizens and we need to be and we don't want to be dependent really from a western we need to have a serious improvement to put chronic situation and investment climate in georgia and we want to really strengthen georgia and economy joy are going to call just sector and to give to the people are more possibilities to work because that level of unemployment enjoyed it's really very high is there and shows the. independent rule in the international arena you know my position is i'm sending me and my party consenting to ga ga should not be western and georgia should not be pro russian georgia should be proud georgia this is simple it's. it was
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this it's very important first of all to think about your old national interests you know when we are speaking is it possible for small georgia to play independent role oh no it was in twenty first century no but these independent one hundred percent everything in globalization process so linked with each other and you couldn't you can't be independent one hundred percent but you can be independent in these frames which is necessary for survival and maybe territorial integrity and democratic process in georgia i think is the biggest mistake of the georgian politician is that georgia decided to be nice thing because a strongest ally of united states that maybe some nato countries this was a very exerting serious mistake when you are in the place joe but of course intuition of where we are you should not forget that you have a concern or save
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a huge the purple or which has burdick serious interest and i think that even georgia will it will respect and the world trying to get one to take into account at russia's. legally interest i want to stress this word is legally interests in this case it will be much more easy to play really independent strolled by the notes to the role of the western it will be more correct to say pro american and not to be parisian let the project. in the house.
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the war against freedom of speech continues and you guessed it r.t. again is being targeted also has russia given up on trump and anything stop the leaks in washington. you know provision out of my pocket i wanted to. ask but i. know i lost his boss because. then people. showing us you know what i was you know. you know just i mean what i'm already but
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it was a lot of. different up as well i must. get rid of. those was. my bed and we've. already. in the thought of getting up there calling.
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for american mercenaries involved in a mosque. fourteen. did their convictions and sentences are turned. from the atrocities. speaking children. in an orphanage. for terrorists they. go. to the russian lawyer.

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