by. other people might go back on the about. such a bad idea. so . there. hello i'm tom hartman at washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture after friday's crushing defeat in canton mississippi what's next for the labor movement lost larry conan just a moment and as donald trump ramps up the belligerent rhetoric against north korea

is he trying to play the madman like richard nixon did back in the seventy's or is trump legitimately crazy that a more intense rumble with rob and medea been. the unionization vote and campaign mississippi's nissan factory was supposed to be a turning point for the labor movement in the south but when workers cast their ballots last thursday and friday they voted against joining the united auto workers by an almost two to one margin final vote was twenty two hundred forty four against unionization to thirteen hundred seven in favor so what happened joining me now is larry cohen board chair of our revolution and i should add former president of communication workers of america so you correct union president you would know this stuff from the bottom up but i do so one thing i know this is it yeah so what

happened to him so what happened in canton is all too familiar which is that majority of the workers who actually signed up and petitions supporting the union management hires union busters they come into the workplace so they're inside the workplace they're letting people stop work to hear that if they vote for the union there's lots of. nissan plants in mexico and we could produce the cars there because in our system of trade it's true some in mexico it's basically the same as producing them here under nafta. and that that's what they risk now they never say they'll do it they because that gets into minor labor law and fractions they say that's what you risk and they say it over and over and over and over and that job at nissan is one of the best jobs in mississippi so this is all a sad commentary on the rights of american workers in two thousand and seventeen near the bottom or at the bottom of any democracy in the world and we we put up

with it these are the only nissan plants the two in tennessee in this one that don't have a union in the entire world renaud nissan it's actually were no nissan mitsubishi three mergers biggest car company in terms of number of cars in the world this kind of a campaign couldn't be run anywhere else in the world but that's what we now take for granted so no other first of all nissan is a japanese company it is entirely unionized in japan yeah they honor their workers in japan yet to take care of their workers in japan you can't mess with their pensions in japan you can't mess with either got free national health care and you know the whole bit right so they would not discuss their workers they would not disrespect their workers in japan they wouldn't trash their workers they wouldn't threaten their workers what the hell gives them the the attitude that that it's entirely appropriate to go to the united states and trash and threaten u.s. workers our government and sadly it's been our government for decades better lip service when we have a democratic president certainly better results when you have

a democratic majority on the national labor relations board which we had until trumpets elected actually we still know it's two two now it'll be three to republican in a matter of weeks but the other part of this is that reno is actually you know they're merged it's we know need it needs. sun reno is fifteen percent owned by the french government actually the combined company is fifteen percent owned by the french government a year ago our labor secretary tom perez and the labor secretary of france the largest shareholder of this combined company ask nissan to stop the union busting and of course they've nord it and went ahead. and this is all just about adding to shareholder value screw all the way they said and carlos ghosn the c.e.o. now gets three multimillion dollar salaries one from renault one from the sun and one from mitsubishi so obviously seriously that's the world we even heard it here so they run three brands and they call it that that's that's not what nothing too

good for the working class i like to say how seriously. serious it's a big setback it's more than ten years of work great community support religious leaders civil rights leaders the plant is majority african-american it's a big setback i would say for the u.a.w. i'd say for working people in america that this is now the way we live when i grew up in north philadelphia it was exactly the opposite the one nine hundred sixty s. one out of three private sector workers had collective bargaining rights now it's one out of sixteen worst in the world. some positive news the unions in missouri have gathered enough signatures for a statewide vote right to work for less and which is supposed to go into effect on august twenty eighth of if i recall correctly this month and they're trying to block this you know tell us about this effort and what are your. yeah protections

against the fence but it's good defense so you need a hundred thousand citizens to put a referendum on the ballot basically stays the law there under missouri's constitution they've got three hundred thousand three times as many so it's almost certain that that will be certified by the attorney general of missouri and that would go in about. out in november november of twenty eight hundred not this year and so until then the current law which allows workers to negotiate what's called an agency shop if you don't join the union you represent in you're covered by the union you'll pay what's called a fair share of the dues. that would continue. so-called right to work which means that's outlawed so the unions then weaker when they bargain that would be stayed until after that the bad news after november of two thousand and eighteen bad news is koch brothers and others already smell a major fight they will put unlimited amounts of money into this fight and so it'll be you know the three hundred thousand workers in missouri and and their supporters

versus the big guys all over again in that referendum vote november twenty eighth seen since our supreme court has said that billionaires can basically own politicians and buy political campaigns to any extent they want any welcome to as jimmy carter said on my program you know we are now an oligarchy. this is not a good thing but it was great that three hundred thousand people in a very short period of time signed the petition of misery yeah well i mean we use survey the american people what you find is that what we want what american workers want what are the average american we're. average american people want right across the board is very very different from what the republicans in the billionaires are pushing but it's mind boggling that they keep getting elected i don't know if it's enough to make you think that they've rigged the voting machines anyhow. the the last thing i want to do is go through with you the people's platform yeah the people's platform has been promoted by our revolution yet i'm not sure the actual

genesis of it well the genesis is that it's not enough to resist trump what are we for we need to be able to reach out to independent voters in the midwest and in other parts of the country not necessarily hard core republicans but at least independent voters so what are we for so these eight things. you are about climate change or you're a key leader about the fight for fifteen fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage about decent tax reform to raise money for public programs college for all which is basically no tuition at public universities and community colleges. you know eight . there's a bill against mass incarceration there's eight different things there yeah so you know let's just go through these and and look at where we're at and who's doing what on these on these are the things medicare for all what how do you see that but that's the biggest one because after all this attention on trauma care obamacare

this is an attempt to actually bring america into the twenty first century with virtually every other country in the world with some form of single payer medicare is familiar to people it would be a floor it's not the be all and end all will see bernie sanders introduce a senate bill similar to conyers john conyers actually they'll be together in michigan sometime in the next two weeks to talk about working together on this. you know conyers now you know in his eighty's for like twenty five years has promoted. single payer in the house burnings bill be an extension of medicare with some funding for it as well and they will be working together and that's probably the biggest thing we will be pushing to say to democrats it's time that democrats got behind real how health care reform not just defending obamacare it's not enough in fact the premiums are skyrocketing the deductibles are ridiculous we can do better well these eight things are all things the were you know in in their own way at

their own time with the exception of climate change and arguably you could replace that with simply the environment well things that actually franklin roosevelt talked about i mean this is this is not some radical new direction for the democratic party this is simply going back to its roots free collar. for all you know reagan ended that in the state of california and it was one of the major engines that that propelled the growth of california prior prior to the one nine hundred seventy s. one thousand it was a mid seventies reagan did that when he was governor or late seventy's how's that going what's where is well again that's wildly popular the idea that. and i would couple it with the kid graduates from high school they can go to community college or any public university without tuition it doesn't mean it's free they still have to deal with the other costs or we should be providing decent work and talk about what is decent work mean so that there's value in graduating high school and that people have something to look forward to but there's wild support again we have to

remember twenty five percent of americans kids high school graduates go to college this is why i'm talking about decent work as well you know we got to worry about all of our kids not just the ones that are going to college but we now have one point two trillion dollars in student debt in this country from what's happened as you just said the skyrocketing tuition and other costs since the one nine hundred seventy s. and when i grew up in north philadelphia community college was free in philadelphia and the rest of it wasn't that at least the community college was free and i went to rutgers that was close to free a minimum wage job you could pay the tuition so it's not radical to go back to what we had forty years ago right yeah no i you know i didn't say you know i'm i didn't graduate from college but i you know i went to lance community college admissions to university and did it working as a as a dishwasher a bob's big boy and yet i'm changing tires at the exxon station i mean you know that is and is a part time d.j. on the weekends fifteen bucks an hour wage you know and it would be nice to go back

to those going to yes and you know fifteen dollar wage again that would actually be lower as a minimum wage than the minimum wage was in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight if you inflation adjusted it would be like seven dollars lower than the minimum wage was in sixty eight if you were to productivity and justin so where are we at on this nation and these are minimum things that we say. that was in the democratic platform that democrats should run on and that we want the democrat the democrats running in the house next year to check off which of these things they're willing to support so that voters can see them so our members can see them and so we can organize behind candidates who support at least these eight minimal things and getting money out of politics how do we do that. now while yet that would be great too but this is about democracy for the people it's basically small donor match and other ways to incentivize public financing of campaigns great stuff larry cohen ok also spider thank you so much it's great having you with us coming up donald trump

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three. wholesale surveillance you feel you have already while those who continue to do so that's been trying to use the social media. is it's garbage in real. as easy as school aide says war of words with north korea even further is donald trump trying to pull off a twenty first century version of richard nixon's vietnam madman routine or is he just plain crazy let's rumble. with me for that i had trouble are rob mariano opinion editor for the daily caller and media benjamin co-founder of code pink and thank you both for being with us

tonight thank you. and code pink you guys have a trip coming up to cuba pretty soon and we do. twenty ninth to november fifth we invite all your listeners to contact us. donald trump's threats against north korea continued today as the president took to twitter to make. another bellicose warning he said military solutions are now fully in place locked and loaded should north korea act on wisely hopefully. we'll find another path the mad man routine never worked for nixon so what does trump think he's doing i mean for example former new hampshire governor excuse me republican senator gordon humphrey says trump's threats against north korea show why he should be removed from office in a letter sent wednesday to congresswoman and mcclain custer the former republican senator said donald trump has shown repeated contempt for informed and wise counsel he is sick of mind impetuous arrogant belligerent and dangerous he should be

relieved of the powers of the presidency at the earliest date this is a mainstream all wine conservative republican former united states senator saying this could donald trump actually be crazy. rob i mean if he's crazy then pretty much everyone in washington is because this is the one thing that's a real bipartisan issue in washington d.c. more than anything else as you know foreign policy it's the regime change is a completely reasonable strategy for pursuing our interests you know back in march every single democrat in the house of representatives voted to increase sanctions you know hundreds of them not a single dissent. you know senator ed markey he praised the trump foreign policy specifically about north korea he's the ranking democrat on the senate subcommittee in east asia he praised trump for everything he was doing so i mean what's really being what's at issue here for the media because you know the media doesn't really

have any disagreements the substance of this kind of policy they're policing its tone and yeah i mean he's he's different in tone from other presidents but this sort of hawkishness is the only way that trump gets the kind of praise that i think he craves from the media like all he's being presidential now. out and sure enough his approval ratings spiked by about seven percent in a single week as soon as he started doing this so i think there's a problem with how the media looks at these things i can't as rob was talking about this he started with talking about regime change and just something clicked in my brain i was trying to think of any time in my lifetime or even in american history frankly you know just rolling back through everything all the way back to you know the the war of eight hundred twelve i can't think of a single time when the united states initiated regime change in another country and over the long term it worked to our benefit. to say nothing of the benefit of the

people in the country all whose origin we change course but on what you know it's interesting that rob you talk about i mean i think both parties are were parties the democrats and republicans and the media love sensationalism and sensationalism is oftentimes in a war. but i think that there's another element in this which is unpredictability and the idea for example that the iran nuclear deal was negotiated with a lot of care with the other countries involved in donald trump talks about ripping that one up and then when it comes to north korea the north korean government is also very impetuous and unpredictable in many ways and you add in the nature of donald trump you know maybe you can do that the business world if you don't give me that contract going to throw you off the roof of my building i mean i don't know what he did in business but you can't do that with north korea and so i think when you have this level of macho just asked your

own that's what kind of got us into the iraq war and that was a nuclear war but that was a disastrous word the result of which we are still as a global community feeling and the poor rockies are feeling it the worse so i think when you when you talk about it with a nuclear state which are acworth wasn't because saddam hussein didn't have nuclear weapons it's even more dangerous i should i should add i suppose the world war two japan and germany arguably that was regime change but that was not the united states and iran going you know we're going to i mean that was a war that was a whole completely different but yeah it wasn't like preemptively you know we're going to let's look at this guy we don't like on anymore. but i do think it's important for your viewers to know that there is this solution of a freeze for freeze this freeze of u.s. war games in. the u.s. and south korea's part in a. yes it's been proposed by the chinese by the russians and the north koreans have

been twenty fifteen in two thousand and sixteen so we should all be calling for a freeze for freeze right and that is basically we stop the war games off their coast they stop building missiles and throwing them into the area where we do the war games and then we start talking that makes sense or up should certainly go ok so as a libertarian you're not nonintervention to show i don't know what i am war leads to bad results i think it's hard to deny that people generally speaking ok the end of always c.p. is suing indiana after its right wing governor signed into law a bill of voting rights advocates say as blatant voter suppression bill in question would force lake county and only lake county to close hundreds of polling places lake county is the state's most heavily black and hispanic and most democratic county this lawsuit comes as an indie starr investigation a local newspaper in indiana has found that since two thousand and eight indiana republicans have systematically expanded early voting in conservative areas and

restricted it in democratic areas to republicans only when if they cheat by preventing people from voting in many key states the number of people purged by cross-check for example was much larger than trump's margin of victory i mean it's pretty amazing. the wisconsin's voter suppression won michigan for example the number of people kicked off the voting rolls four hundred forty nine thousand was about forty times larger than trump's margin of victory around ten thousand votes and a new study from priorities usa found that wisconsin's voter suppression id law prevented at least two hundred thousand mostly democratic leaning voters in voting age twenty sixteen trumps margin of victory in wisconsin was a mere twenty two thousand votes is this are we not just simply seeing a repeat of what happened in florida in two thousand when jeb bush ordered to katherine harris to throw fifty four thousand african-americans off the voting rolls weeks before the election. well first of all the two hundred thousand number for wisconsin that's been debunked. even even liberals are criticizing the

methodology of so i don't know if you want to spin a nurse say it was only one hundred thousand off it was orders of magnitude you can you can do a lot of things with numbers believe me. and so no one to know it sure i mean crystal backs losed is seven point two million people and that's only twenty some us short i mean there's obviously so a motivated reason to work here to say oh yeah two hundred thousand dollar i mean intuitively believe that but i think. he's a little more scrutiny and so are you are you objecting to this particular number or are you denying that the republicans are trying to suppress the vote in order to win a lot oh no i think that that's the nature of power and this goes for much the deeper discussion about them obviously the people who are in power will do what it takes to stay in power democrats through every i don't know of any time short of friends or some of those islands who. almost always vote democrat were just you know by the virginia governor several months ago they were just given the right to vote for

obviously political reasons. maybe the political reasons are that they deserve the right to vote sure i mean there's a moral code of state there's a moral and i think republicans are the ones that try to suppress votes and i like republicans so there is no i don't like the two party system and i think the two party system has the fact that so few people vote in this country is because we have so many problems with should have same day voter registration you should have motor voter where when you register to get a driver's license you're automatically registered to vote you should have. a holiday on on election day you should err early voting should be easier for everybody we should be able to vote by mail there's all kinds of things that would make voting in this country easier democrats tend to want to make it easier because more people who don't vote would tend to vote democrat but i think it's this is where the how or what republicans do this to you know them the least restrictive voting state in the united states isn't. at the code it's entirely republican you

can you can register on election day i mean you don't even register there's not even you know you just go in and it is colorado where they send out a ballot to everybody in the state while they're doing that i mean the colorado has expanded the vote by mail franchise but i'm talking about you don't even have to show i.d. in north dakota you just walk up and say hi i'm bomb ralph and here's my utility bill and you know they let you vote why would the republicans who run north dakota make north dakota the most liberal state in the country for voting not because it's entirely white so just so you know what but white well what you see it's a republican run state what you see it when it's republicans run states is that the larger the black or hispanic population the state the more aggressively they crank up the voter suppression laws issue or minorities or democrat yeah the point that's the nature of power well you can win unless similarly say well it would mean while the f.c.c. is extent of the deadline for comments on is its plan to gut net neutrality by two more weeks that plan is already the most commented plan in f.c.c.

history and once it's finalized it'll suck the american internet back decades meanwhile out in longmont colorado residents are already enjoying the internet of the future longmont is now in the internet business and almost every home in the city has access we want people who take it is much for granted is the do flipping a light switch on in their house. longmont next light in a civil broadband service costs just sixty dollars a month for internet speeds of one gig that's one thousand megabytes per second is the time to recognize the internet as part of our commons and protected and distributed to you know widely available to everybody like longmont has done media i totally agree and i just came back from south korea you get internet anywhere people have it up in the remotest areas and it's wicked it is so fast so we are behind. i mean i'm not in principle against you know anything being public but there is there is rational allocation reasons that not everything is public you

know there's a market for food even though people die without food so yeah i'm sure it can certainly work and you know specific economics in areas of specific cities like longmont. and you know whether it's one of these are countries you know historically iraq or the entire country of south korea or i mean. big high tech sector you know i get it there it's more like a city here but except that in south korea's rural areas you got high speed you are going to be totally in the world areas and it helps the economy and i think in this day and age it should be should be said in a human rights record this what's more essential in for infrastructure is the new library is there your public library the library isn't a human right well you know ben franklin thought it was and so you know that's why he couldn't mercenaries probably fly. right information yeah there you go ok rob medea great having you but i think you know and that's the way it is tonight and don't forget democracy is not a spectator sport you know they're going to active tag your it.

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