but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided. to support his claims. i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied the beat n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating the us once again proved to be an effort for government claims that. you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming indistinguishable. for most geri halliwell made the spice girls bush when you've got

a mixture of. the two collide and it's really it's reflecting what the world he's feeling when i was going to travel when i left. he was that for me when i had my first child i had no way he was there for me and also when i had. music to play with the show. george negus very honest with me you know. they were thinking about what america's. i think. as a community do and i think sometimes it's the i can't. you know she's a dog i think. that's why. i think. yes because they actually are quietly strong all next on larry.

we're in london and welcome to larry king now on our special guest is jerry horner how well the singer songwriter actress activist and talent judge jerry does it all she was thrust into the global spotlight as did your spice a member of the music and pop culture phenomenon the spice girls who sold more records than any female group in the history she has since the martin a very successful solo of years ago career not using multiple u.k. number one hits including lift me up and it's raining men and now after a lengthy hiatus gerry's back with her first international music release in twelve years it's angels in chains a song tribute to the late great george michael and your name is no jerry corner i'll just jerry we can be on. jerry one i just got married in our well as your maiden name yes it was they said i think americans might know i mean. how well it

would bring any they were highly well mary having grown up on a hollywood just shares jerry just jerry want to do horner my husband a year member of that. he ran the race team the air force and the f one formula one thing. lloyd it was a title well it kind of a thing the title is i wrote that when george died and i did michael george michael died and i didn't know what to do i was in the middle of writing songs i love writing and it's kind of saying i think we're all good people but we've all got crosses to bath in a and it's it's kind of saying that you know we feel sad but then there's a joy in it as well basically so i wrote it in tribute to him a world you know. it's one of those people that i don't know about. you have more life experience than i do but i think when the chips hit the fan so to speak i

think you find out he friends are what you made of and i didn't have to see him all the time but when i when i was going to travel when i left the spice girls he was there for me when i had my first child i had nowhere to live he was there for me and also when i had you know music music to play and i wasn't sure where to go a place to jordan it was very honest with me you had a close relationship it was trouble or i think we can all be trouble i think in life you know i mean you've probably got a better view in this but you know nobody's perfect and my mother the said it was i had this quote it goes you know before you point the finger make sure your own hands are clean you know i don't know who is perfect out there and george never claimed to be and i find most of the truck with them i was so you know war overseas something that happens going to happens all of us i mean we don't want to lose anybody and so. you know you think why do you know the good die young he was only

fifty the fifty's easing it's not fair so many great thing is not it's have died you know in the last few years you think. really to make it makes me think you know we have to really appreciate in our or do you think his legacy is obviously we know him as an amazing music musician and his music his overseas his first legacy perhaps the that one thing that you know is coming out and i knew this about him that the generosity and the kindness of a good man he gave all the routine of jesus for a child to child line this is amazing organization in england and so all the money that i make on this song is going to go to that but also i found out i met a will can i say to i also of terrence higgins chasse this is the foundation that helps people with hiv he gave the routines of all of his greatest hits album in

in britain two to the organizations so generous this is your first global musical twelve years where were you why are you back. and about your i don't you don't sound like you're like this but my dad he was full of us tonight or i and i think. i learned a lot from my mother she's really hardworking my dad he saw used to overthink things a little bit and he said it to me that he had that thing of you know over thinking and the last few years i had of i had a child i've had two children so obviously i was being a mother but also i was always writing music and i was always thinking oh is this good nuff i'm not sure i was procrastinating and i think this song was pushed me out the door because it wasn't about me it was i celebrate george's birthday kind of gave me the the push that i needed us

a bit scared if i'm honest have you haven't not felt a little bit and just go for rosewood or. to you to go up or you have chilled you know different wife yeah i like a tie by the way thank you it's a london it's a duchamp a lot of good you look nice you you like me. i like you too gerry you have now this is a signal that more music is coming yeah our ears were term yeah i mean i love music i like connecting i really line bringing positivity that's very american thing to bring positivity in all the darkness that we're all going to think about what america's been through and britain i think what can we do you and i off as a community do and i think sometimes it's like it lighting a positive candle you know through the darkness and i think music is my contribution you miss the old days of recording or you think of screaming i'm one hand it's really really good you know it's fantastic i mean we have to move with

the times it's life it changes if you don't you know keep up the times it moves on without you of course as an artist on my own goals you know. people don't buy this you know the cd before that was a tape before that was a record. so it's just the way life is but it's very convenient identify people have that same like a lot you used to have you know the record or those cd and you look at it and you read the lyrics it feels a little miss the old a little a little bit did you like the name ginger spice well i think it's wise to have a spice name yeah i got given to us accidentally this magazine did actually i think it sounds better in america you know because you got ginger rogers and things around a little q yes fine i don't mind i'm relaxed about it q what would i have been as is by school i think you'd be like strong. because actually are

quietly strong strong like. i think when age comes how did you come to join them you know it's kind of a little bit of frankenstein because what started out as a manufactured group but then it became its own life force and we were so our own would be a man of wealth somebody try to put us together you know and bring with yeah i was trying to become you know i was trying to make it as a solo artist and then this in a fair play to them they this guy put an advert in a stage in this market in this newspaper and got some girls together we were like each other but. we're not sure about you know many whether there was there was what for and then we became for we found one more and. and then we sort of grew into our own life force so. it was it was a man so many years we were given not that long but it because it was so intense it

felt like a lifetime how do you explain that. success. for me it's appetite it's mirroring what the the world is feeling so all it was and also it was serving well i believe when you've got a mixture of commercial with all tourism when the two collide and it's really is like ice is reflecting what the world is feeling thus i thought it was you all get along sometimes like a marriage sometimes you have your memories is like a bit me but then they really is still a lot of love was there a leader of the group wow i would get that label a lot because i think i was the oldest and probably quite bossy i think i wish i had heels i didn't have that quiet bossiness i was more like come on let's do it i think because my dad died she just before not looking back i'd sort of like come on we've got to do this i'm a naturally a light bringing people together to make it quickly did the group hear it wow so

all the most albums over here it did very well over the world yeah i'm grateful for the success to tour america we did i love america because i used to be brought up on our american optimism through television programs you know whether it was the war turns charlie's angels you know wonder woman it gave me that feeling yes you can do it you recently apologized on twitter for leaving the group prior to the nineteen ninety eight world tour announced. the national weather service building virginia has issued a special memory warning for ten rivers of cambridge maryland and a little town ten river until twelve forty five am eleven thirty million pm a

severe thunderstorm capable of producing waterspouts was located over china and river moving southeast at twenty knots hazard waterspouts and wind gusts thirty four knots or greater source radar indicated impact waterspouts can easily overturn boats and create locally hazardous ease boaters and small craft could be thrown overboard by suddenly higher winds and waves capsizing their vessel locations and pack that include chop tank river. yeah i think so is it is it a nice the lens i love singing harmonies with them and when i was singing with the when i go together on this georgia record it's funny because i really like it was a with his backing singers are all over this record and one of the things i really like to know we all sang in harmony and i was thinking this is what i liked when i was with the spice girls you know i like doing solo but i do like singing with

other people is when i got the opportunity to do george's musicians who are amazing they're probably like the musical royalty the pedigree of such a perfectionist to be the only way i can describe it was a bit like joking along with you same boat it was so good like they really kicked my bar and raised my game i want to ask you because obviously you've been doing this a very long time and you've got a wealth of experience i want to ask you who is the most favorite person that you've interviewed you. don't try me charming. as memorable as some are true of brando oh wow not most a member or a can't move the king and mazing they are presidents ok margaret thatcher of her other prime ministers too and you sometimes think not sure it's horrible sometimes when you meet your idea and you go on oh yeah i generally haven't been disappointed that's nice nice who's

a current group you like well i still i still look back to any other girl groups that like on vogue and apparently still go on which is great. i lot do i actually think it's ridiculous i miss harry styles where he was in the band one direction and i always thought he's going to be the one he just had there's always one that's got there or something and he's gone on to make a great so our solo art album and you like him because some of the rhythms he's picked a very sort of old school rhythms music are. huge enjoy going to new spice girls up at the get you know for me my door is always open you know i'm really grateful to the fans music always belongs to everyone and i love to go so i've got an open door policy you know if you might reunite for was say it's not good tour why not it is out this five so for now you can have to do with me just and. we'll do it that she's geri corner and her new song is angels in chains and after the break we'll

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the money that needed at least. the back when jerry wanted she's a single ng juicing jayne's the song tribute to late great george michael before we get to some little game of the view only know what's going on with. troubled. yes i think through a lot you know what with you know the terrorism has been hideous and and the. grenfell tower think god is how it is it's gone to a loss is there a sense of irony is i think so but you know wot i was i was talking to someone they

said actually in the times of darkness something happens an opportunity to really do is some sort of positive that will come together exposes the light the good actually i think human beings are fundamentally good i mean you can answer that better than i have more life experience but you know i've seen communities come together and i thought ok we do cat would so it but it has been really were a lot of trauma. that you're leaving the european union. thing as a wrong or right way you know hindsight is a wonderful thing never wrong yeah it's never wrong we can all be wise in hindsight i am or look back and go oh out of you know for me this is one thing that i've learnt i remember last year when i was watching you know i was watching the political climate whether it's america whether it's you know britain the one thing that i think is you know we have we're meant to be a democratic society we have votes we have all those things to keep our say your

opinion matters and so what i would say is that whether we as a world we choose to go this way or that way you know i think we should all respect each other's opinions you know not not be i think we still need to come together as a as a human race where little game of of you only knew i will fire suppression jerry who is your childhood celebrity crush. i did love elvis biggest risk you've ever taken. well relieving this i think of. guilty pleasure. i sometimes watch this really trashy reality t.v. show who greatest musical influence well obviously with ed sinatra but then equally. got to say i like nina simone you mentioned george michael for george michael a massive influence but then equally i'd listen to public enemy

a big hardcore rap you know i love all sorts and then my light see good talent can do accents but it's not secret anymore accents accent have my name is joe delaney i'm not deserve love the farrier search a gentleman larry why do you think i act in a terrible and do their group out thank you if you were on a musician what would you be a teacher in a place teach a person you trade places with for a day. donald trump ah. so big you wish you were better at. i wish i could play the piano you to music your fans would be surprised to know you listen to i think i'm to set it everything what do americans get wrong about great britain sometimes with the accents they think you're posh when you're not. you know i mean i think oh my god

you know the queen you know just because you've gotten pretty much then or you're clever they think you're clever just because you've got a british accent or not trusting me or smart or what do great britain's get wrong about america i think america you know is more than just new york and los angeles america is you know is so much more is so much bigger and obviously got those two media in a status could tell me something people don't know about you or can you say openly their thoughts just about to say something i thought that's the most were ok like you know what there are sort of think about that have a think about it have some social be good question ok. coriander soon on the larry king now blog do you think pop music is in a good spot right now. i think so it's so easy to get out of it's not as good as it was when it was in my day but actually everything moves on you know there's there's lots of different things coming through and we have to sort of embrace that you

know you're a writer who sings are you a singer who wrote you know i think i'm a writer who sings if i'm really honest i don't claim to be the best thing in the world but i love writing in communicating i think that's a very good question jaws are there any other girl groups out there you like like fifth army i think when i look at go groups i just think yass fantastic is a bit hard to say one you know which one you like to farm and i think a good hero this is crab briana larry king now boy would you ever consider running for political office in the u.k. you know i think i mean i'm a big winston churchill fan i was reading his biography in a movie oh yes there is and he was amazing in that series did you see it queen the crown crown the crown he was fantastic the guy that played him but i don't know if go yet that he was actually pretty but i don't know about you but i'm old enough now not met a few prime ministers and seen and overseas scenes and. presidents or not been to

your white house and what i realize is that no matter who is in office who ever lead you rarely when you always come out wrong and know you are very good is always such an expectation i mean here you are less of a steve had some and you go oh my god he was amazing or grows yes or kennedy. is quite hard is a hard job and dawson on facebook famous women tend to be over scrutinized by the media is this something you've experienced i think when i was younger you know i sort of felt here in the ninety's and yet sensitive to you know unfortunately is the world we live in i'm not i there is that sort of scrutiny but i think he's actually trying sending. out on to men as well you know that sort of pressure it is what it is. it's human billboard is a weird fan encounter you've had i've had guys when they get me to write my name on

their arm and they're going to tattoo it and i think oh my gods are better right is nicely my alter of to the name of my old all time no i'd write on pen in a pen and nobody has you know with them ever on twitter what was the craziest thing you ever did is a spice girl not lots of things that lead to them was quite cheeky being quite cheeky and i think when you're in a pack it gives you a bit more confidence and so it's quite like yeah come on back on my mind is for a lot of hobbit. cave everything you've done. i don't remember where i ate yesterday at k g m ten sixteen on twitter what was what is motherhood and marriage like for you do you want to keep your kids out of the public it's a tough one isn't it i think it's balance because i think it's important to keep

your feet on the ground my mother i think she spanish and my father tried to put me on the stage or not as a little girl and and she said she's with a spanish actually said to me i don't want you to end up like dr de gallo and because judy garland's how they ended up on drugs and i just thought actually i'm glad she did that so you know i don't see why you can't control. your picture up on insta but quite that part of my life they've been born into that but you know i try to do it in a gentle way i think balanced. t.j. seifert on the larry king nobbled how difficult is it to transition into a solo career after being part of a group it's i thing is quite tough because you sort of get used to that. i feel stronger as a writer than i do as a singer if i'm honest and so when you've got others with you you know you can harmonize together and it gives you confidence on the days that sometimes you know

i know i can come across as a bit gobby but actually underneath i can feel shy so you can lean on somebody yelling or someone else so but then another ways creatively you can have more your own way. on twitter your it's raining men always puts me in a good mood could there ever be a remake of that song obviously it was a remake that was a cover is i yeah ironically i was already with my album it's a do a cover for a movie and i didn't it was a hit i don't know i think it's been done now and original spicey on twitter what has fame taught you i used to have this idea to remember the wizard of oz and she was to get to the emerald city and i picked because i didn't have a lot of money i think get famous you know become a pop star get fame as an heir or everything is going to go to lovely la la land jenny no we nice and of course you know it's life is life and fame for me it's got you it's useful and it's handy is

a nice thing to do because you can you know promote you know good causes and even get a good restaurant table it life is spent that has mother stuff that comes with it but i think feet on the ground to be feet on the ground and you know you can look at the stars but remember we're three zero i think rachel spicey on twitter what goes through your mind when you see videos or images of gerry from the ninety's. i sort of sometimes i look i k i have this thing you know. elton john when he was going you know amazing artist but he'd get bigger and bigger like trying to outdo itself you know bigger go all ses i think but tom i got to the american billboard a couple of which one it was billboard awards i was sort of like i was looking like a drag queen i was thought of like the lady that make up the thongs of gold. but i think. you still keep writing i've never stopped actually that's the one thing off don even when i wasn't in the public cause still writing music she delight ah

it's been lovely alya thank you doll all up killa a big step i guess gerry warner out well be sure to pick up a copy of her newest signal angels in chains a tribute to the late george michael the proceeds from angel and jane's will go to the child line foundation as always you can find me on twitter at putin's things. see you next time. called the feature we go through. every. year.

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