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this week's. coming up in today's going underground but first the. catastrophe in london is becoming clearer coverage of the fire which left so many dead in the poorest community in one of the richest areas on earth initially included voices like this do i want to have i want to be a revolution in this country. a mainstream you don't deserve to be. but to the b.b.c. . corrupt government people need a revolution. and any other country to. respond to for two years you've hounded demonize them. and you said he was unelectable he can't be there's no possibility of this and you created that narrative that people actually believed for a while but what this election has done is shown that people are there with. you and the other billionaire owners. and that is the vote of confidence.
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but also to use the. rapidly coverage of this. good afternoon for. the queen and prince william visiting people affected by the terrible. gulf. and then a charity single initiative going on the record conservative music mogul. chills it sounds beautiful absolutely beautiful the country will now have to wait for a public inquiry which will report directly to number ten where the former u.k. housing minister. accused of breaking promises on fire safety works. chief of staff will have more. on the show but now we go to outside the british parliament to talk to lord west. mr security and counterterrorism in the wake of
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seemingly one terror attack after another on britain. before we get to the latest counter terror initiatives a police with machine guns on the streets on me on the streets id cards mass surveillance is just the way we're going to combat terrorism and i says in britain i don't think it is the right way of combating it doesn't mean you don't need some policeman with weapons doesn't need you i mean you don't need some sort of surveillance but i think doing that all mass is obscene what you don't want it means that all of these various terrorists or various persuasions of one if we come that sort of society and i certainly don't want to live in a country like that one of the things i love about this country is that most of the policemen don't carry weapons that is very unusual in most countries police all carry weapons and i rather like the fact they don't and i think that would be a retrograde step to go down that road but immediately. secretary started her statement actually went to resume started speaking out of the fins repack incident alone the london bridge attack was to talk about internet surveillance all the
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helicopters events were obviously now suffering from is it all about the internet not the twenty thousand police officers that was sacked the answer is not all about it's about a whole raft of things i think in terms of internet surveillance i'm i'm very glad we got the investigation through. very inaptly name the snoopers i mean actually not doing it would have been a chance of a more people being killed and caught. the people who are using the investigative powers bill a totally uninterested what's in your email i mean i could be having affair with thirty different women it would give it would give a damn what they would be interested in is if i was regularly in contact with a known bomb maker in yemen. then they would have to ask bush and they say he's speaking to him every day and he's speaking to a man we know who actually planted a bomb in new york and went inside and you know i was actually why is this going on would you give us permission to look at what's in the in his e-mails the aria. u.s.
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backed operations over syria right now with civilian casualties being reported every other day is it time for the u.k. to work with the syrian government in trying to attack isis and syria. have a track record on this as you know i believe that our whole policy in terms of how we've dealt with assad has been bad a sad is a federally nasty disgusting man. he is a fact of life on the ground some of the opposition forces we are dealing with some of the more hardcore than al qaida itself we call them that are gone democratic forces backed by. the libyan blowback which we saw in the area around it. when it comes to the i mean what you've just been saying about syria is a bit like what donald trump was saying when he was running for president and now shot down. is the president. he shot down a syrian plane over syrian airspace russia is now threatened any plane west of your
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freight river american and british planes now flying over not at the invitation of the syrian government like. a syrian planes should britain stop flying over syrian airspace like australia. i fear it being. i mean what the australians have stopped there because the risk of australian plane being shot down and i can understand that i think right now over there we've got to be more robust in that with the americans but what invading another country's airspace with crucial is that we deal with particularly sad. control people which we were doing before to make the conflict that has got to be done and i think the shooting down of a syrian plane i personally think it's not a very clever thing to have done at all the syrian air defense system is still pretty well there they have triple digits that's very very capable. i
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think we're very we're in a very dangerous position and we need to look at this very closely but there's no doubt that the military attrition of. this is making them lose ground so they can no longer claim they have a caliphate it is important and and the there is no doubt that without the element the mixture of forces on the ground could not actually achieve it because i mean if we and the americans went in we could easily take it over but then you got a problem what the hell do you do then and i don't believe every. mainly american but little bit of. i don't believe we would be able to stop having the caliphate and i think that is important but within hours of saying they shoot down. any and made. britain should raise or maybe part of iran coalition. signal obviously the best one of the best. things that was
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signed in the last few years was the agreement with iran about the production you but weapons and when trump said he was against that really worries me like he's done nothing yet. but i think i think we have not dealt with iran very cleverly now admittedly they support a lot of terrorism but actually basically they're a country that they were very good and i think they could be very interesting and i think to demonize them constantly is not clever and just because the bricks of negotiations are going on here on the record as saying. here like headless chickens . in military preparations going to break i mean the trident submarine still able to. swim around in the e.u. waters off the brits and the answer that one is yes but that's i think my point is that actually i don't think there'd been yes exactly i don't think there'd been any i don't think anyone in the immediate thought we might actually leave and i don't think and this is very unusual because one thing the. the military good at is lots
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of water you can bet your bottom dollar where we're fighting anywhere we have. and i don't think anything had been done and you could tell from when they were asking questions about what this meant europe i mean. this by the way and i'm very concerned that there's no doubt for the last seventy years the united states and britain have ensured the safety and security of europe because of the count's we've had in our defense because of what america is saying i'm not sure that is any longer the case and that is very worrying because the security of europe is extremely important for our nation extremely important. and i think we need to a lot of thoughts about what this all means to us thank you. jeremy corbin's address to eunice and the u.k.'s biggest public service union in the past twenty four hours wasn't mentioned much in mainstream media as well as the fact that he is the first labor leader in ten years to be the number one choice for britain's prime minister but what other stories have been lost in the anniversary
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of bricks at the conservative deal with and the queen's speech well here is going on the grounds deputy editor sebastian packer reporting on some of the week's buried news. the u.k. was absolutely sweating its boris johnson's off this week with a heatwave reaching from the north to the most southern points of england where the presenters took great care to point out high pollen counts but didn't focus so much on high ozone particularly those the ones that kill millions of people every year but maybe that's because defra allegedly covered up the ad pollution in parts of england breached levels this week with michael gove teresa mayes new minister for the environment having to say on the matter and the new conservative chief of staff captain paul well and also about ignoring reports on fire safety in tower blocks.
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in london amidst a climate of political uncertainty the queen for cost a royal banquet of breck's it filled promises in a strangely pro e crown and the interim prime minister to raise a may attempt to apologize to some of the burning injustices that she was supposed to correct even if the foreign secretary sister thinks that the prime minister is a victim of these injustices as well it's like she's one of the victims of the fire as well because she can do nothing well i'm not sure which one of the interviews is worse or how brothers we are we are looking at these. measures to. you know you said in the usa well hurricane trump has been bring up a storm over north korea and cuba he's kept his fingers firmly off the bottoms of twitter about his decision to send thousands more troops to afghanistan just one of the broken campaign promises that litter the road to his presidency we are going to
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and the era of nation building and instead focus on just strongly strongly does strongly isis funny that because he shot down two syrian aircraft in the past week maybe all this intervention is a good way to please the military industrial complex and to justify the near trillion dollar defense budget over in the middle east where a new study has revealed that a reign of terror and showers of bombs from nato was have killed an estimated four million muslims since one nine hundred ninety there are allegations of kidnap and. torture of yemeni citizens by close u.s. allies the u.a.e. while the us are arming u.a.e. forces and teaching them how to bomb they've also had quite a bit of experience in torture as well but questions are being raised over whether information forcibly deemed by those incarcerated in these camps is being used to bomb yemen where the most recent attack overseen by the new crown prince of saudi arabia killed twenty five civilians in
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a market one of the companies who supplies weapons to the saudis is be a systems you know the guys who brought you cluster bombs and wrap the drones they've been taking advantage of the u.k.'s lax export rules by sending over more than just killing machines to repressive regimes freedom of information request discovered that massive valence technology powerful enough to spy on entire countries and track people through their mobile phones is being exported to countries such as saudi arabia the u.a.e. and qatar so next week make sure to wrap up warm and take an umbrella because we're expecting a downpour of this information. yeah there just a bastion back of their own covering this week's buried news after the break neglect demolition and social cleansing how democratically accountable housing across the u.k. has been allowed to deteriorate tearing apart working class communities as the private sector profits from human suffering and why trays of maize all for luxury
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apartments to rent residents doesn't satisfy polls and the director of the new film dispossession the great social housing swindle told the simple going up and today's going underground. in case you're new to the game this is how it works the economy is built around corporations corporations run washington washington media the media the voters elect the businessman to run this country business equals power you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before .
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about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself in taking your last bang turn. your act to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words and hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each pair. but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was a cave still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it's one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with this one. speech because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker .
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welcome back at seventy two hours since hundreds of day of rage protesters marched on britain's parliament in the shadow of the tragic some say emblematic inferno at granville tower here in kensington in london but as grief turns to anger and tourism is post-election chaos and lack of transparency from local councils and private developers how did margaret thatcher to new labor lay the foundations on which the housing crisis is constructed today has going underground's senior producer peter bennett of the screening of a new documentary dispossession the great social housing swindle to talk with key figures in what they consider a class war against social cleansing early nineteen eighties people living in u.k. social housing has dropped from forty two percent say less than eight. percents with an estimated one point four million covered on the council's waiting lists i get the slight rise in property prices in the groans i'm all for affordable harding's successive governments to slash investment in social housing just as
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council of whole estates to private developers asin dennis lives in south east london elstree state the site of a controversial regeneration scheme in which residents have been forcibly re housed people are being sunday and all off to london especially the other two people reached a clue what they've children. roamed e.-l. they've been all food you know to some of the tomes outside. and council is so brutal force to us because this is a close division often to the class people they don't care about the class you know the king class people we know that we as well does that so we do not expect anything and i know that they are but he didn't toadies well from you david to the current all physicians oil scrawl streets activists and defend council housing member fred milton has jeremy cool beans manifest affairs ahead of the yacht coming
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grenfell tower inquiry of course jeremy jeremy called an initial plan to buy the budget to build five hundred thousand council housing in five it looks very wealthy but i have to say that in the course of the election that will alter down more to down watered down what is true what is the true of recent events on beneful taleb says that we need council housing we need council housing. by. responsible managers not intended not out solved by the council but actually it's a call function of the council to. run their housing properly and that means keeping them safe but how is this allowed to happen in the first place i spoke to greenland assembly member. comes in counsel of the highgate sean berry about the causes of the housing crisis they also because he's kept his you know that the market as a has been unregulated and de regulates it for the faulty law we're seeing rising
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costs for saying let's approach the people buying high sits around my distorting little and the big developers business model really is failing and we're saying lots of hands to all belts no no london it could ever fool its a body there is a risk just about scraped enough to run and fed the damage our chances of buying it's genuinely bright and either way you've got powers like you've got the masses is rolling back on some of his promises to people on estates to rentals when it comes to things like rent patrols and having a whether or not you have a stimulus however the crisis goes beyond the capital to communities across the u.k. heavy duty grew up in scotland schools and a housing estate he says has been ignored by power given the choice by films like dispossession the great social housing swindle cooking the people of their god and god and their people are you going to see in this film what can they offer the tory . party and often in
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a tone of party oh no they don't tell polish tones in those trees i'm inclosing. what do you make of all the ones that she's brought on board as if they just are going to make a difference not that nobody needs a different just going to religion in. perpetual selfishness social until nests. not care for anyone else if you do if you actually think that the torn apart in this country believe in children haitian they don't believe in society under such a said there is no society there's only. that she's not just a movie that she's trained moche and she's dennis potter this is a potion what this is a saying of the chains that she's a show clone creativity documentary film camera and get on people tell you they'll tell. the truth in this country who don't screen expressing the human cost of the housing crisis on the big screen this documentary explores the cat's fate is led to
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a chronic shortage of social housing. essentially we. simply haven't seen the full social housing and maybe coming in. senior producer peter bennett there i'm outside the granville to our north kensington in london with the director of dispossession the great social housing swindle paul first of all just your reaction to. the here are lots of the mainstream media cameras not here anymore. looking to building obviously you can't really comprehend what went on. when i found out about i was in sheffield and i'm seeing the images on t.v. and initially like my space or you just feel sympathy and empathy for the people that is affected and then afterwards you know shock and anger the fact that it's been allowed to happen i think there were a dozen council inspections of that building and seen it come out in the last few days it just draws you back to systematic neglect not only of people in the council
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housing but of working class people of poor people of vulnerable people all over the u.k. . the thing i keep going back to is the seventy odd tory m.p.'s that voted against the landlord bill to make homes fit for human habitation and i think that you know this terrible incident just raises more questions and more anger about why we have a government why we have a system of pollen that isn't representative of people who go to the film because of. a game in the game even just after the aftermath. when the fire still raging we were told not to politicize it. was the conservative and labor policy of right to buy so popular and yet so much part of the current housing crisis in britain. i think it was popular because you know working class people like anyone else wanted to own their own homes and there's nothing wrong with wanting to own your own home you know it's a desire i was back years and years and years and so the right to buy in principle
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wasn't a bad idea but the problem was they didn't replace like for like i think that you said that they would be in every place too for everyone they didn't even do one for one and so you know that goes into the blair and brown administrations as well in the combined period of thirteen years of new labor they've built fewer houses in total than thatcher's government averaged every year so it's it's an issue across both parties and it's a policy now life it needs to end because we do have a housing shortage you know we do have problems with council housing but continuing to sell off that still cannot replace is just senseless and you tackle the issue of labor councils up and down the country blaming. councils blaming central government for. housing storms yeah i mean that's the thing i mean it's very it's very easy to blame central government and say this all comes down from the states but local authorities do have to be a bit smarter i mean obviously their budgets have really been cut to the bone by
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you know announcing things as in the case of lambeth council where they announced the demolition of pressing gardens on twitter you know that's not very clever that's actually the plain sense that if it's actually an offense if so you know not only do councils have to communicate better but they need to explain why they do in these three developments and you know working with property developers is always a very murky area because of the bottom line for a. profit but why do you think you'd like to subsidise move is a way to make housing more equitable gets going common currency in media and yet in your film it comes out. all it does is to make housing more of affordable housing did used to be a permanent safe secure home you know in the fifty's and sixty's my family when they got council housing they were proud of. they lived and i knew it was their home for life but the problem is now you know with thousand i'm planning out there are going to be no more you know last time tendencies you see in the film that when
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a person dies in social housing it's a requirement to just sell it on to the private sector yeah that's part of the new house and i'm not sure it's there that's going to be the case for you jamie solicitor from chambers who appears in the film as. of the view that a lot of that policy may or may not actually be in force i mean there are still campaigns to try and repeal that so i think we're still in very early days but what it can do in principle is bad enough i think in the film you talk about social stigma or a bit like in rio's of illicit people to admit to living in social housing so. polarized is its class in britain today yeah there's a lot of stigmatized around it and you know that comes from the media it comes from t.v. programs poverty porn shows where you know council tenants are depicted is on benefits that depicted as somehow being as stupid and that's not the case you know some of our brightest minds and people came from council house in town. it's actually the
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social problems created by a society by system of government the problem but when it comes to who the government listens to in your film get a beer is the. very very rich state agencies recommend to the government policies like destroying four hundred thousand special housing homes and the government listens to reports coming from estate agents that that will win from that policy yeah i mean i think there was a report from samples that came out and it was any of they i think they put a figure on someone's worth in london i think you've got to be earning about seventy thousand pounds to be worth your sport in london that was the average figure you know i don't know too many people that much money and so what you have then is the colonize ation of space you have and the idea that to be in the city you have to justify. your place here by earning a certain amount of money which means you can afford to pass a rent or mortgage and also spend this much on you know what is the london economy and you know that's just it's nonsense isn't it. your film outlines how areas
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especially. in the issue that there would be real housing there for the survivors of the greenfield tragedy the latest i think is in london and she's saying that boras will neighboring bars how do you think i did in policy because it was we have to hold them to account and if they've moved residence into some nearby luxury apartments which have a concierge service which have a gymnasium and it's important that the people that move into that property get those services i mean whether they're in a separate section i don't know whether they're think they will be in a separate. area for so-called affordable housing just describe what a poor door is yes i mean a poor door is an annex to luxury apartments which is where the social rent tenants leave in and there are all sorts of reasons for that used to justify it part of the
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agreement with the builder is that they'll only make a certain amount of social rents available if there is a separate and entrance it also reduces the cost down for everybody so you can argue economically that you know there is a reason for it but then on the other side of it you can look at it as being a systematic microcosm of our society the rich going one way the poor leave another wife and then you've got you know two people that were in the press complaining about the price of property complain about how they'd worked so hard and now they're going to have to mix with you know all of these you know working class people and i despair at that you really despair and it just shows you where we've got to where we've sunk to as a society because you know we're all culpable in this as a society we all need to actually take responsibility and if we don't have those huge challenge those fees. thank you. hope you enjoyed that requested favorite show from the latest season of going underground will be back with another great season going on the ground on saturday
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