off the bat for telling you are not cool enough and let's go buy their product please. all the hawks that we along with are. watching league. on larry king now from london be indelible any ill effects if i feel like i want to write music and continue recording. it will be a time for that i like to be free i don't like to have a schedule i'm one of those performers that is i get nervous and i put so much into my performance that i find it exhausting i get a lot of musicians love nothing better than being on stage and i don't get out on the third thing i think about one and a half hours is really moxon you could change one thing i would give a gift of intelligence and humanity and compassion to anybody that was in

a position of power so that they would make sensible decisions plus we've gone through a lot of political correctness and i think for good reason because we were actually asking people to respect each other but of course political come to recognize can go into strange places too all next on larry king now. well good on larry king now we're shooting today from london where we're joined by award winning singer songwriter philanthropist humanitarian and activist the iconic annie lennox last time you were here you were releasing an album of covers will we see another lennox album at this point you know however is more what all of i don't know what are you doing well i'm doing a lot of things i'm spinning a lot of plates i do things that i enjoy doing and i actually recently just before interesting because he won

a really prestigious prize called the pull of prize in stockholm in sweden you know and staying together you know just me and it was all very secret because they wanted it to be a surprise and so i perform one of his songs. and that was lovely and i like to do one of the things like that you know just i just sing and play on the piano and if i feel like i want to write music and continue recording i think will be a time for that i'm not sure i like to be free i don't like to have a schedule where i'm from fit obliged to stick to it we do our concert know not only more i mean i had decades of doing hundreds of concerts and tearing and travelling around the world and then i had a period in my life and i had young children and i said i can't tour with my children's to it's really too much i must be a mother but i did performances and i did appearances and interviews and i did

a few two hours. and i took my children with no two and now they're not little they're not little children anymore no twenty four and twenty six so are you going to sing in two or i don't know it's true mr lighton i'm one of those performers that is i get nervous and i put so much into my performance that i find it exhausting a lot of musicians love nothing better than being on stage you know you know the ones that. all of those kind of they love it is yeah they just i'm there and the place and i don't get that i don't was there. i think one and a half hours is really maximum when you said in two thousand and fourteen that you'd stop writing you would too happy yarkas little occasion very happy. if you work less. what it what are you doing. i have.

i'm like i said lots of different interests and it's almost like i have volved into becoming an advocate an arc activist for hiv aids and this really kind of took me on a different journey and i could use my music as a platform for that so i would and i still do perform for various fundraising events why why a show b.a.'s it wasn't an arbitrary choice it was something that i was exposed to because back in the one nine hundred ninety three i was an invited to perform for nelson mandela's launch of his hiv aids foundation which was called fordable six x. four and while my deva was at that point he was still healthy he decided to put his focus into hiv junia's which he described as a genocide at the time in south africa where thousands of people were dying not getting access to treatment and when i saw him when i witnessed the horror of that pandemic face to face and this man dela had described it which is affecting women

and children they were the face of it it was as if like i had a huge insight into what was going on or why we could not go if you knew that why would that stop me from singing and writing and working in well it didn't stop me completely but. i suppose what it is is that i quite enjoy entertaining people but there's another aspect of me that feels that i need to use my platform for women's rights and ups really in a way what i've been doing are you still an artist first of all you know pearl additives were for an artist in my sensibility i suppose now the the activist bit has eclipsed a lot of the so our usual fame which is there for good i would say i try yeah i try to do that a couple of things about music and we'll talk more about driving as the business changed much you think just a little bit or worse or might

a say you like streaming i like certain aspects of technology i love things like instagram i love the in you know i love to i take photographs and i nothing fancy is just i phone but i love to in photographs and i love the instantaneous act of putting and you're putting a photograph on instagram with a little common justice just to have that commentary with people just to see it can be very divisive of it when i was on facebook and before that my space remember my space done done and dusted we're just accelerating with technology so quickly now but i use facebook for more serious issues and i sometimes blog what i'm thinking but for many years i found that to be so divisive that people like it and really what it said and i thought are not trying to make people angry i'm just trying to say i'm just trying to make people think but people i think they use those

platforms to sometimes get their under of the chest you know and don't really want to get into divisiveness it's everybody has a right to their opinion like modern technology yeah i think some of it but i think when it's used intelligently and creatively. i think it's an incredible thing you said recently that you've encountered a lot i'm a surgeon is that behavior growing up were unsure how to deal with it or labyrinth when we just want to hear it was just in a general psych geist you know i was born in the fifty's and growing up as a teenager i think there was a lot of hard core male behavior towards women you know attitude on up here i grew up in aberdeen in the north east but in general just in general across the world. my expense of being a woman was that you sometimes things you were there was a kind of putdown and from men as well as. when it's really tricky to

describe i mean times have changed so much and are continuing to change what was normal then and was acceptable is not really acceptable anymore it's that's definitely good you know i mean we've we've gone through a lot of political correctness and i think for good reason because we are actually asking people to respect each other but of course political can correct as can go into strange places too because people aren't being authentic but i would still prefer that people were specked for men were respectful of women women were respectful of men decent behavior is firm and as i'm a better order now allowed for example i've been a fan of domicile my life overgrow women as equal i work for women i never thought good to hear what i never thought that was odd i think i've thought about this a lot and i actually think that the word feminist and the yeah it's a bit like art when you see art. people have different relationship to it and

people take a meaning from the word feminism and the take their own interpretation of that word so some people feel of feminism is this and someone else might think well from isms completely different and they feel just as much as they own it for me fett feminism means the empowerment of women and girls so they can have a decent life with education with access to medical care sexual reproductive health care access to the things that in the western world women like myself have had the privilege of taking for granted because when you travel to developing countries you get to see. something often like it feels a bit like the middle ages you see young girls under the age of eighteen who've already had a baby and are pregnant probably married to

a much older man you see that but it can change and like just like. female genital mutilation is changing now it's changing at the grassroots level that young women growing up don't want this to happen to them in the west we didn't even know it existed know which threaten what what is the orses the circle what is that all this well it relates to this experience that i had i was taken by oxfam by comic relief and. when i went to uganda malawi i was with four of six with lots of experiences going into townships and. seeing that women were disempowered at a level that the so shocking domestic violence rate. things that just seem to be like that's the norm or you know rape is a weapon of mass destruction in the congo or wherever i mean if you look at history

you know that women have been raped as a weapon of destruction so i saw these things that became so real to me and then i felt coming back to london i live in the western country we were very fortunate suffragette movement empowered my generation and the generation just before me my mother's generation were given the possibility to have the right to vote before that's not so long ago we couldn't vote and also women weren't working as lawyers or doctors or politicians or i mean i wrote a sister's doing for the themselves back in the eighty's and it was all about that it was a celebration of women's liberation but there's so much further to go so i can look at myself as a global feminist and the circle sorry that was your original question is an organization that was founded a few years ago only a couple of years ago actually basically trying to encourage women who are so resourced to come together it's a hub it's a place where we can inform our ourselves about various women focus projects around

the world and we can be supportive of those projects do you think performers ever do do it go i'd like to say yes i do i do because it is such a you're in such a previous position that you have a platform but i would say also that if you're going to represent an issue be sure that you really believe in it and that it's not just a stepping stone for you to be to look good you know what wouldn't you say to quote the old auction you have come a long way baby a couple long way baby over into i have a come a long way of and women come along yes i think our much earlier is it getting better and better every day or not and i think there's still a long way to go but i think what's important is that people actually know. how to create change and that one can shout and be a you know oppositional and sometimes that's necessary that kind of anger is

necessary to create societal cultural change however you must create a movement a collective movement before you can create a tipping point and that's why or when i was asked what do you think about. donald trump and obviously at the time in march as things are changing every month you say in march i was part of the women's march that i i'm involved here for international women's day every single journalist asked me so what about what about you know the comments that were made them such a stick comments that i made and i actually said well you know ironically it served a purpose because it actually i'm tubes a kind of attitudes and such and stick us to towards women that they could rally up against and become become less complacent up next andy on her secret talent her favorite vice bus will discuss her ongoing advocacy for a child being aids that's after this thing.

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back in london where the great enemy lennox h.i.v. is it's a major issue in developing countries in america i don't know about england but we were talking about it no one talks about it it seems i think people think it's been cured that they wish well there are cocktails if you get a job be you probably don't get a's in america yes at the treatment it's not a cure the cure hasn't been found to have the treatment has worked yes the treatment works and. that i think the first thing to say is that the stigma of a child he is very very strong people still find it a very very hard issue to discuss in front of their friends in the family but in america they just don't believe all this because they think it's done it's a done deal but it isn't a done deal and it's coming back especially in african-american but not in a poor places in america in england oh yeah it's here oh it's in london it's in

every major city it's all through the country and people just don't want to recognize it but if i can take the opportunity while i'm having a conversation with you about it i think the thing that everybody must do is if you are all going off and you're having sex unprotected sex get tested get tested so you know your status first and foremost know you're still this still apply is that getting less attention because they trigger. i think everybody wants things to but nasty things to just not exist and i think that. after the huge we have outrage and protest that was. happened didn't suffer sysco happens all over america i mean it was so successful incredible campaign to get people access to testing and treatment and actually what happens if you look at these movements for change that they have a big tidal wave and actually they get somewhere and so the mountain has been climbed but then no longer have you reached the spinnaker love that mountain and

then there would be another one ahead of us so the young generation coming up are not as aware as we were in our twenty's on all of a sudden this hideous play suddenly for everybody was that people thought if you share a mug with someone if you hug someone and you kiss someone there are all kinds of misnomers going around we didn't understand what it was about now we have the drugs now we have the treatment you can live with hiv and you can lower your you can't you discount until it's very badly susceptible this person george w. bush yes to the most forward in emerging countries that's right pepfar pepfar money from america has been totally transformative in all around the world it is truly has been a remarkable thing where gifty you argue i totally agree with perla game of if you only knew questions actually like this who is your childhood celebrity crush cliff

richard cliff richard loved cliff richard guilty pleasure. drinking or wine in white wine i thought it still didn't sit with nice sigrid town secret talent. i can cook as who would you trade places with for a day. sebastian salgado. he is the most in extraordinary talk for who's been all around the world photographing extraordinary human experiences and if i were so many things i'd like to be able to do in my life i would love to have been a photographer like him looking mentally for talk you tag taking pictures. is that the camera or the person holding the camera is it's both but i think it's the person really something we all should be paying more attention to global warming climate change climate change without believe there are deniers that they're crazy

denies that it's crazy what's a luxury you can't wear we're about oyster eyes or i wish that some of us sharing your every woman needs voice or as it was a stranger's job you've ever been i worked in a fish factory and i had to go underneath the machines with like a waterproof. like a saw wester and a keep. with a hook cleaning underneath the machine that was flipping the fish with waters fish water on my head there we have it or. something you wish you were better at it i wish i was better at our focusing my in my my arm a little bit distracted and i like to focus better to do you have a favorite vice at will it's really vodka martini yeah because i'm going up from

the white wine. like a vulcan martini funniest fan encounter i was in a big gathering in scotland an awards ceremony over time people were drinking and drinking in scotland they like to drink they got very drunk and at the beginning of the thing they're all very stiff and all very formal. so the place is everybody is completely blind drunk i wasn't actually regrettably i'm sitting next to mine is various different but then he gets a little bit kind of loose and his wife is completely gone staggers up to me and says over my shoulder maher husband loves you he does him as he really loves you. so to me that was very funny. some social media questions for you dear miss mack nine hundred seventy three would you make a comeback either alone or as the eurythmics you never know i never know dang of

course of a thomas in twenty seventeen in what ways is the average person still ignorant about h.i.v. and everywhere people just don't know the fundamental facts they don't know for example that a pregnant woman is into the positive can give birth to an h.p.v. negative baby with the right kind of an intervention they don't know the they don't know basic things that some people still probably think that you can catch it from sharing a mug or a cup or a tour or sellers do you think your voice has changed through the years i think it has changed somewhat in what way i think as you get older your voice gets more mature i mean it's i think it's a little lower than it was but it's i think i've become more myself and it's it's wrong it's quite raw voice now is a troubling with the higher notes i don't know i think i sing better than i did in some ways curiously. jean venturis when that voice soars you make such an indelible impression what does that saw come out of there has to be

a story of struggle or pain behind all that gripped i have never seen anyone so powerful on stage right where is a kind of a compliment and i think it's always a mystery you know where the soul what is source that you've got you can see it it's your inner spirit it's what it's what. it's an expression of your existence human expression music is so emotional unlike other art forms people will cry when they hear music this all of a sudden you could just be in tears i find that happening have it do you find out enough to understand the other it is it's just the universal language of the soul whatever that is you bring it to the stage i realize that performance is a powerful place and gathered with an audience gather together you make a kind of magical connection with that with the audience you know with this music that you present to them and they're suddenly if if you do that your job properly.

there they should be in trance they should be cut to fit it by the by this kind of how would you say a mormon is being held to the sky to spell really if it's working then digs with tell us about your friendship with freddie mercury why was he so special well i never really was friends with freddie but people think i was because there is a quite a beautiful picture where i met him for a mormon and somebody said oh to have your picture taken and it's touching you know it's like i'm in a dress and i very rarely ever get sequin dress and i'm camping it up and fred is arm around him and his company you know and it's just a moment and i'll bet a lot of people i mean david bowie for one everything i've sung with. stevie want to admit a good and sung with some of the best the most extraordinary singers on the planet and and there was freddie just for this moment i think this was in the eighty's and

i never got to know him and why do i think he was special because he was flamboyant and he dared to go beyond the boundaries you know and people didn't even think he was gay that those were back in the days and it was hard for him to come out and and acknowledge that he was gay and then further that he was suffering from hiv and that you know struggled with that daniel cross over term a stew of any prince stories yeah one prince dory prince came to see us mix and we were performing in a tiny club somewhere in new york you know like a little basement club. and he heard that we were performing and he shows up to come and see us not only that he waits backstage and it's a tiny dressing like a cupboard and he waits to see us and in the end i think david gone for a drink and it's just me and him in the tiny little room and he was incredibly shy but he actually didn't really almost didn't say a word and when he did say something he whispered it and kind of looked away he

couldn't make eye contact and it was slightly awkward and i was trying to when people are chai in front of me i feel so uncomfortable and i want to make them feel good and i was saw in all of him because for me he was extraordinary had a great hour with him he was funny and he's funny or and that's a thing that's what it was said that actually when he was relaxed he was hilarious and very outgoing and hurt i wish i wish i could have had a chance to kind of level down and have that fun moment with him because i think we would have laughed a lot more real a poor do you have any regrets in your life so many regrets so many i can't count them. you should do with them you serve your forget it well because the chopped liver you said in a two thousand and fourteen rolling stone article i'd rather be not successful and happy than be super successful and miserable obviously did you do music regular

ever make you unhappy. yes the the aspect of the loneliness of touring the hard the hard kind of the repetition of it made me very unhappy and also that being famous as it is a different way of being and i've always kind of stride to avoid it like oh it's just a projection it's not me me is me but that's a projection of who is you it's you it's me but it's a projection so. it's an aspect of you that people think they know and they kind of know that aspect but they don't know you as a person so that's another thing to discover does that make sense but a so we have you and that's how it is but some people play into the illust game and i know i'm not comfortable being part of that so i i kind of rather shy away from

it oh you when you meet someone famous that you don't know it's a good question i'm awestruck by them these oh i'm off struck yeah i'm off awestruck by them and i know that i don't know them yet until i get to know them the real person is not what i'm not what's giving me the awestruck ness that's the projection or who if you could change one thing you know the way is a wand what would you change i wouldn't i would i would make i would give a gift of intelligence and humanity and compassion to anybody that was in a position of power so that they would make sensible decisions and handle this world in a better place so that would be there would be i would take all the weapons way i've taken all the weapons away and were projectiles. well you know the list is endless prejudice is so offensive and it's so horrible it's

a kind of insanity yeah it's in some a city and there's so many i realize that the world is the world to the. we're like we're all thinking that we know everything and we don't and our opinion is the only opinion and we were not kind to each other on this just so much i could say about how crazy the world is and you are in the late oh we don't have time for the fact my guest anyone makes more about her organization the circle the circle and geo and there's always you can find me on twitter and pings things so i'm all for london see an extra.

all the world. and all the news companies merely players but what kind of part is already america playing r.t. america offers more r.t. america personally. many ways the news landscape is just like the real news big news good actors bad actors and in the end you could never tell your all. so much parking all the world's all the world's all the world's a stage we are definitely a player. you're watching our team america special report. this. has been up by basically everything that you think you know about civil society have broken down. there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be.