again i'm not recalling something that happened with an oligopoly. holding the sorry for the call. and he should go down to the should look like it should also. make sure the right to begin and just tell the truth ok. just keep going through. that's kind of a no it's a very busy area now and then but on the shaming it was i mean i would have been hundreds of people. thousands hundreds of them. and it looks like you chose to do the bit where she will what i'm going to streets on both sides of the sort of car going up the direction even in the middle of the car that want to go visit an area where people can walk underneath shade trees and reflection that he looked like he was driving down the middle of what i'm left ancient that i mean i don't know that they can say that it was an accident. just like you could read in

stuff. like you know what i can tell you please be nice saying anything assange brenden it was a terrorist attack that's why they are describing it did you see the van drive on a toll because we've also heard that he said the same. when i when i eventually. realized it wasn't when i thought it was an accident was just coming back to that i'm let's not but we're not actually. we can get back to our car we're not sure it was an accident when you stop driving. an accident that's when i went. and i did i didn't i have found out to you just the school maybe a traitor but i didn't know that that now i didn't know that. in a shop for the last twenty minutes show i know many people like you don't conceal the safety have you been told to study that. i mean it's quite sure.

so quickly. and i think those of us that. kind of should. be through the streets. but you weren't there i mean and it's so crazy people just kept getting towards the road so i was kind of. trying to get well not sure that ryan and i will talk shop where the bunch of people sitting outside are just it looks that you have to have people screaming show they just put. a bunch of people in there looking for it and shut down the shutters and i quote charles i don't know what happened on that point because we were inside and you just come outside and i don't know what happened in between that period our conference. with a gun shell to toe did you have any. no i didn't somebody had said that i hadn't heard that little. you know if you're not sure what it must it must have been

seconds. but i had no gunshots and i didn't see anybody leave the ground next to the band saw girlfriends. or any gunshots of brenden from what you've said i mean there was no warning at all when this happened this was a van was it was just driving nearby and then suddenly mounted the pavement and as you describe it accelerated up so i guess i thought maybe i didn't i didn't i didn't see it i didn't see the pregnant. but. i didn't. actually dogs are shocked jump out of the truck. and then the people. it was a trick of the real i mean it's impossible to. believe which account which explain it just. now we really appreciate you talking to us brandon have you been able to talk to anybody else on are you in that shop with

other people of other people saying things to. sell just being in touch with some from. back in london and some piece of schooling or should move out of the square older. people are. on the job. ok brenda will save we can get contact with us a bit later that a friend insisting an eyewitness said that we were talking to his he said he just pulled up in the taxi this is this horrific terror attack as it seems to be and the police describing it as out unfolded he said this found then excel right to the left that i'm blessed which is a pradesh to an area. in central boss alone packed with hundreds of people he said many of them then just nine dying bodies found that accelerated in his words about eight states. perhaps one hundred miles per hour so a traveling stream the fast so you people it's been confirmed have been killed by

this and something like twenty injured but speaking to brendan there that witness as you heard as well as i did many people are still being treated at the scene just so you add to what he said to this driver of this band then fled the scene the local media reports that two are men then entered a restaurant in barcelona we've got no more on that this is just information that we're receiving at the moment it's. a local local channel called t v three is reporting that two armed men entered the turkish restaurant so we're not sure. how that is unfolding but of course we will stay on top of that but these are pictures that people are streaming from the center of the city of barcelona this evening a lovely summer evening that turned into something quite real. and of course we'll be staying across this story for you throughout the evening now let's turn to other things because this channel is campaigning to help find the

relatives of often russian speaking children who've been left stranded in iraq it is understood they were taken there by their by their radicalized parents who joined islamic state where we've been appealing for anybody who might recognize the youngsters shown in our reports to get in touch and it's likely we're pleased to say we may have found some of the families among the responses we've had however in the iraqi orphanages self the rest still new arrivals and among them is little mary . she's in a fragile state and often cries and she says she's in a lot of pain to from her many injuries trying to describe the won't deal she's going through. a phone call to that very same shelter the voice on the other end says another girl has just been brought in from mosul. but it could be too early to talk for her any question and the girl may break down

. in this psychological state she's struggling to answer a question as simple as what's your name got to be as old i. must anybody else that. this is that. it's clear mariam is lucky to be alive there are scars right on her face surviving this head injury as almost a miracle. surrounded by other kids in caring shelter workers mariam gradually got to the point when she began talking believe it or not mariam gets least stressed when she speaks of her once just to kill the governor the chill button that. it took oakley for. a school killing you will like it. it

seems the lucky escape happened shortly after that dreadful experience but here's maryam describing what happened just before she found herself at the epicenter of the war. said each witness it's just that they just didn't do that it would. if it were known that a lot maryam is not the only girl who has told us about the horrors by some river that's apparently where many children lost their mothers. i'm almost to suggest. you. eat. the mom when you only have the mom or dad each. what kind of other horrendous things d.c. people went through somewhere by the river in mosul we can only guess mariam doesn't remember anything more or just can't talk about it we ask about her father

but she can barely see a thing but when you. miss that those from below you. will . get there is a glimmer of hope that she can grow up in peace and reunite with her family grandparents. quite good that you would wash. the bulbs. off the top of the. illiad to tranquil our teeth. well if you have any information about mariam or any of the other children we've told you about to please contact us an e-mail address in the bottom of your screen right now in the meantime of course we'll continue our campaign to reunite them with their relatives back in russia.

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your. dad. i don't like it this claim was. paid for. back to our breaking news this evening a van has crashed into a crowd of the desh trains in the center of barcelona reportedly killing two people and. police said to be treating its terror related happened in the area of the city the perpetrators are thought to fled the scene shots of also reportedly being in the area too or people are being advised to avoid the city center the president of the catalonia region is apparently also breaking off his holidays to return to barcelona also now in further developments there have been

reports of another incident following that crash two our men are allegedly holed up now in a restaurant or a bar in the area and it's believed a hostage situation could be unfolding there so that's the latest we have for the moment of events happening in barcelona it appears to be a terror attack reports that two people being killed after a van plowed three hundred possessions it seemed to my witnesses be spoken to on the left that. area which is a very busy touristy area in the center of barcelona the saving. ok well i think we can discuss this a bit further than i have chris hunter bomb disposal experts in a former british army officer could even see chris. the police are saying it's a terror attack and it's got all the hallmarks hasn't it. it does absolutely every really have seen you know numerous incidents of this type now certainly we've seen jari online platforms. online journals recommending that lone wolfs

terrorist outfits acts both out al qaeda publications and. the isis publications as well and we have seen recently a couple of incidents where it looks like they're just people who are either suicidal or indeed. but this certainly has all the hallmarks of a is the most extremist terrorist attack and at the moment it's still a very dangerous situation isn't it because it appears the driver of the spanish still at large and now the reports to perhaps a hostage situation in a cafe read in the center of barcelona take. yes that's right i mean as is always the case with incidents of terrorism of suspected terrorism in the early stages it's very difficult to get accurate information and there are quite often conflicting reports as well but what we know so far is that there's definitely been

a big running incident it appears to be deliberate the event appears to deliberately driven on the curb site on the pavements and mowed down civilians and of course we've heard that it took place outside or in very close proximity to a kosher restaurant a jewish restaurants and in addition to that of course as the reports of this potential hostage barricade terrorism incident as well which would all be consistent with this incidence whether it's the same perpetrator is involved in the barricade terrorism incident or whether it's a similar take the six ak both of which the tactics of and al qaeda in terms of the police response so far i mean talking very generally how do they approach the situation like this when they've got a dangerous man at large and perhaps another incident to deal with saying. well what tends to happen is that. certainly in the united kingdom we called it the bronze silver and command levels. bronze silver and gold trim on levels the gold

come on would be the sort of strategic level government level if you like silver would be the regional police command level and the prongs being that's had school level the police on the ground and they'll be all sorts of reports coming through whatever this any terrorist incidents is always multiple calls some of which are contradictory. and they'll be supporting. agent says well intelligence service is potentially the military in addition to that supporting police services and national police authorities as well so the moments that we're trying to filter through the volume of information is coming through trying to identify if they're already passed since the mind for itsy bitsy identifying where the perpetrators are and it's training those perpetrators interdicting them and over to try and see bring the instance to an end to make sure there are no further incidents. when you look at the terror attack this creates some mentis from method of yeah from afar it

seems impossible almost to prevent things like this from happening given the fact that you know a lot of europe is on a high state of alert we've seen attacks like this before and yet it seems like an always happen. that's absolutely right i mean certainly you know when it comes to terrorists using explosives and using firearms we can pretty much place measures to prevent access to explosive materials or the precursor materials we can put in place laws and process is see you know make access to weapons firearms difficult but when it comes to access to a vehicle it's very very difficult to stop and prevents and that's exactly why the islamist extremist groups favoring this type of attack and what we're seeing so many of them across western europe and indeed other parts of the world. police we gang three databases to the main in previous attacks we've seen that the perpetrators have been known to police for various incidents before would it be your sort of expectation that you know this who had

a cabinet that maybe nine to police as well before. yes is the simple answer but of course in recent months we've seen attacks in france in particular we've seen attacks in the united kingdom we've seen attacks in other parts of europe but actually it's been quite rare to see attacks on the. the spanish mainland and so while i wouldn't suggest for a moment but the spanish authorities arrested on their laurels they've certainly been at the forefront of counterterrorism for decades now and we haven't seen many incidents like this being perpetrated by islamist extremists in recent months and years so i think you know they'll certainly be calling upon their european counterparts and colleagues for any support they have they'll certainly be concurrently looking through intelligence data bases any criminal databases as well but as i said the main emphasis will be on. how to save them how to take them

and how to ensure there are further incidents. taking place at fifty particular fifteen fifty cent a lot. of a lot of c.c.t.v. in that sentencing i mean i'm ashamed everybody's looking at everything now to see what information they can glean from that. study when it comes to the retrospective intelligence or investigation c.c.t.v. place of vital parts there are certainly they'll be cool's almost certainly for anybody with mobile phone footage anybody who said that we're looking at twitter accounts for example the scene from the post on there and sensibly as the investigation progresses they'll be looking extensively at c.c.t.v. footage and then obviously retrospectively tracing back the journey that individual have taken also things like cell phone footage looking at cell phone activity all

of those are going to hand in hand so when they sort of look at the routes that the perpetrator has taken then look at cell phone activity as well look at the networks on those cell phones and of course you know informants witnesses members of the public all of those things that we drawing upon and basically maximizing their own resources. to ensure they can get as much information as possible. but the real difficulty of course he said what's going through that information to identify with actionable and investigate intelligence just like risk is we're looking at live pictures i'm not sure if you can see even but with obviously the scene of where this horrific incident took place and it seems that some days we should be receiving treatment on the ground there but i also see a large number of a large number certainly perhaps half a dozen to say members of the public obviously keen to see what's happened and that can be a big problem being the really for the police are trying to do their job. it is a very big problem and as i mentioned earlier spain is no stretch it's terrorist

incidents for decades it's worked against. the best separatist movements and. on the receiving end of a number of is the most extremist terrorist attacks as well. we haven't seen a significant number in recent months and this thankfully in spain but of course all the other me you know the population of spain is quite adepts with terrorist incidents there are always those people who want to i think involved in some way to help or indeed are just so shocked by the events that. call it sort of terrorism. but effectively there is terrorism voyeurism people just so shocked that they can't help themselves and want to see what's happening on the ground yet and at the moment as we discussed earlier we have had to try to relaunch and several

metros have been shut down train stations have been shut down. how much more complete sting to actually try and sort of pinpoint where this guy might be and i'm finding make sure that he see you know he's not a wrong great danger because you've got a huge safety to deal with. that's absolutely right one of the first things that they will be doing once they've sort of got some. existence and exactly you know who may be involved how many perpetrators there may be who the support network might be or organization they represent because you organization represents may well in the indicative of other tactics techniques and procedures and in the any other subsequent attacks as well. they'll be putting out requests on social media for both any footage that people may have and certainly a call for witnesses. and really. a request for the. ok chris i think we've just lost our connection

with the babbitt really appreciate you coming on to r.t. to talk to us tonight as chris hunter bomb disposal experts and former which army officer saying talking about the horrific in three instances of taking place in a central fast lane receiving around about an hour ago we know that a van crashed into a crowd of pedestrians in the center of fast lane report killing two people injuring several more all of these are live pictures you're looking at in fact for the latest pictures i'm sorry if you look at that i mean it's in the center piece screen just to the right of that i think you can see somebody receiving treatment just a traffic light there and police asking members of the public to move back they closed off the area and police have also closed off the train stations in the underground in and around this area to try and catch the perpetrator the driver of that fan who fled the scene we did speak to a eyewitness

a little earlier saying he tells me that he just got out of a taxi when this was all unfolding and he saw a van man the pavement travel something like maybe one hundred yards great speed he says and eighty to one hundred kilometers per hour perhaps and so many people get hit by the speaker and thrown into the air consequently we know that at least there are reports that. well have died now while all this is happening and we're looking at this there are there's also another incident unfolding being reported in it's thought that two are men have entered a turkish restaurant in the center of barcelona and a hostage situation could be unfolding so this is what we know at the miners. through ok so that hostage incident isn't being confirmed but that's what's being reported by local media so that's the latest from the central sas alone of the scene of course are across it fully. now in

the news thousands of people held a candlelight vigil in charlottesville him the u.s. state of virginia they gathered to condemn violence and hatred after a woman was killed while opposing a white supremacist rally on saturday the state troopers were also remembered they died in a helicopter crash while monitoring the unrest the outburst of violence started with a protest over the removal of a statue of a confederate general authorities citing security reasons are now taking down similar monuments right across the country and moved it has drawn the ire of president trump. said to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments you can't change history but you can learn from it robert illegal storm or jackson who's next washington jefferson so foolish also the that is being taken out of our cities towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be

comparable to replaced. went to ask new yorkers whether monuments to other historic figures including some of the founding fathers should be pulled down as well. here outside of st john's episcopal church in brooklyn there was a monument commemorating confederate general robert e. lee it was affixed to this maple tree and it was here for over one hundred years now in light of the violence in charlottesville related to a statue of robert e. lee it's been removed all across the country activists are demanding that symbols honoring a related to slavery or honoring the people who fought for it be taken down perhaps this is sensible after all slavery is a barbaric practice millions of people died coming to the united states millions more worked to death on plantations however getting rid of the symbols related to slavery might not be as easy as it sounds.

this is new york city's madison avenue it's named after u.s. president james madison now james madison owned over one hundred slaves and in his personal letters he said some pretty reprehensible things about black people do you feel like there's a little hypocrisy that we're changing things in the south but not changing things here absolutely watching a change in every way i think that he represents you know a troubled past or because there's a difference between honoring history and recognizing that we shouldn't repeat it should they stop madison avenue. and rename it yeah i think it's fine so if one person does affect people there will be a bible so you'd be a good idea to take it to the it should be a different kind of thing but i think a lot of people in the south do want to take the statues down it's not just people in the north that are trying to take down. now we're here in thomas jefferson park thomas jefferson was the ideological founder of the american republic and he was also

a slave owner not only did jefferson own hundreds of slaves he actually impregnated one of them there's a number of african-americans living today who can trace their genealogy back to thomas jefferson and one of his slaves sally hemings before him. having slaves it was a. change it slavery shouldn't be this even slaves right now in this state after all of them but. that's not the way to get out. get out trying to kill the shop. the first president of the united states george washington started owning slaves when he was just eleven years old by the time of his death he had over three hundred even signed into law the infamous fugitive slave act which allowed slave owners to track down escapees all over the country anything that's owned by a slave owner should be changed yeah it should be because this is times two thousand they have only they've had enough time to do it while washington didn't go

to war to defend slavery and i think concerts is very important in these type of situations george washington's faces on the one dollar bill is often referred to as the father of our country slavery didn't just exist in the south it existed all across the united states getting rid of everything related to slavery opens up an interesting can of worms might not be as easy as some people seem to think kaleb oppen artsy new york. ok we're back to our breaking news this evening a vanished crash into a crowd of pedestrians in the center of barcelona reportedly killing two people injuring several more the instant which police are treating is terrorists it happened in the u.s. that i'm blessed tourist area and the driver of the vehicle is thought to have fled the sings a manhunt is now underway shots were also reportedly heard at a nearby market for the reports some people are being advised to avoid the city center and stay inside the president of the catalonia region is apparently also

breaking off his holiday to return to barcelona. and i think we can go to a local journalist castro who's in barcelona to. close to the events the terror attack as it was unfolding louise good evening to you can you describe just tell us what you know. about this terror attack. well i the moment the police has a basically closed the whole entire area of the central barcelona we're talking about the area called the luna which is one of the main tourist areas in the whole city. easily thousands of people being evacuated from the area the police does not allow any press so anybody to go any close to the actual square they are not telling anyone exactly what's going on all we know so far is as you described things that we have seen on this.