musician his music has sold millions about the political power of music and fifty years of pink floyd we asked the creative director behind the world famous rock bands iconic album art how music can be used to fight the power plus we uncover the stories that fell between the cracks in this week's barry news all the civil coming of a debate is going underground but first leaders of the iraqi energy industry convene in london today to discuss all island gas strategy well we certainly know what u.s. president donald trump thinks of the fourth largest producer of oil to russia saudi arabia in the united states old expression to the victor belong the spoils you remember you always used to say keep the oil i wasn't a fan of iraq i don't want to go into iraq but i will tell you when we were in we got out wrong how we said in addition to that keep you are now i said for economic reasons but if you think about it if we kept you know you probably wouldn't have isis because that's where they made their money in the first place so we should keep the oil but ok. maybe we'll have another chance donald trump there raising

eyebrows at cia headquarters as he appears to say the united states should replace isis is the enemy of the iraqi government this was the response of iraqi prime minister hey there are a lot of it i think mr trump is a problem i think he's a prisoner. he would look at this tradition. iraq all these sold by iraq is not take been taken over by iran or not not any anybody else the iraqi people not any country to take possession of their own resources so who's been doing the possessing of iraq e resources as far back as twenty eleven here in the iraqi region of kurdistan the word is out it's on mobile it's coming. the billions of barrels that lay beneath this specific area are already being drilled by a smaller american competitor. but now exxon mobil has signed its own deal with the kurds to explore for more oil in the kurdish economists region of iraq well we know

who used to run exxon mobil none other than president trump secretary of state rex tillerson. in the past twenty four hours u.s. president trump fresh from his dinner with israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu and his wife met with palestinian leader president abbas from gil scott heron just new dog artists from all around the world though have refused to play in the occupied territories of israel but from the anti-apartheid struggle in south africa to the cultural b.d.s. movement for palestine what is the nature of the political power of music recently we caught up with dave randall a musician who has played with acts such as faithless and dido selling millions of records his latest releases a book sound system the political power of music david welcome to going underground why do you think it is that mainstream media narratives promote the idea that music is somehow merely entertainment and that despite would rule is as you call them in

this book believe that music cannot change the world. well i think there are several parts to the answer i mean i think in general the political power of culture on the plate by those we weave palla. and i think what i try to discuss in the book is the fact that the political power of culture has been understood by rulers throughout the whole of history and indeed across cultures. often they would see as being in their interests to. to keep or to keep quiet really this political power the more that we are passive consumers of culture the better from their point of view i think. on the other hand the more that we actively partake in culture and the more that we engage politically through culture the better i think we the better placed we will be to

make sure that culture serves are us the many rather than just the few you talk about the dixie chicks and how the response by other artists to their opposition to the iraq war. without presumably the cia anywhere near this image of madonna immediately reshooting a video that could be construed as an iraq war after the hatred for the dixie chicks with their opposition will self censorship be something that crops up a lot sooner leave for the cia or well. i mean it's interesting because there's a long history of certain artists being targeted by those in power and made an example of in the hope that others will indeed self sense and you're absolutely right that's what happened when the dixie chicks expressed this solidarity with the antiwar protests against the iraq war in two thousand and three they did so while on stage at the shepherds bush empire here in london when they did that. that was really i mean the audience applauded but when when that into them was reported in america they ended up paying

a huge commercial cost you know the record sales plummeted the concerts were canceled and you're absolutely right that led other artists including madonna to suddenly abstain from political comment and i think that's a real problem on the up side of things though if we just go back briefly you know the response by different parts of the music industry too was busy we deserve flirtations with fascism by eric clapton word student david bowie was the great rock against racism movement in britain yes i think the most important thing for people. to know about that period because i'm just a little bit too young to remember it for myself and i think that what's fascinating to know is that popular culture was on a knife edge you had punks flirting with the symbols of the far right the swastika and so on you had as you say eric clapton making these outrageous racist comments on stage at the birmingham odeon you have bowie sort of saying that again probably

drunk or high but nonetheless saying some really dangerous provocative things i think he said that he considered hitler to be the world's first rock star. and there was a real tangible saint's the popular culture could have become quite racist quite right wing quite nasty. but because of that conscious political intervention by left wing activists rock against racism in actual fact the opposite happened anti racism became common sense really for a generation or so so it's incredibly important example and firmly one by moaning leave then rise of ninety's electronic dance music you say it's actually a perfect. call real context to understand the new liberal revolution or the increasing new liberalism when it comes to alienation yeah yeah. it takes me

a while to arrive at that conclusion in the book but you're absolutely right i i trace the fact that the roots of dance music are with people who have been excluded from mainstream society by prejudice so people who've been excluded because of racism homophobia perhaps transphobia in cities like chicago detroit in new york and therefore they were using music to build a new sense of community and precisely the same things started to happen a decade or or or a little bit more later in britain huge numbers of working class british young people started to place music at the center of their new attempt to forge a sense of community precisely the time that factor was telling them that there was no such thing as society precise in the time policies was shattering working class communities so yes i think it was a response to feelings of alienation and when it comes to how music is change an analysis of these different ideas you. are talking about a wonderful list is not

a revolutionary music and how different it is for him in particular you mention and there's of course ally because they appropriated some of their dance music madonna lady gaga and get only the worst why are those three particular images. in or sending word i don't i think it's important for me to be clear i'm not saying there in all things here what i am saying and what i talk about throughout the book is this idea that this idea that was first put forward in detail by theodore door no the the great german intellectual he wrote a number of very influential essays in the 1940's and his line essentially was that popular music was always going to keep us down the popular music was deployed by ruse as a weapon of mass distraction essentially. and i don't agree with him i think that

all of culture is contested but when i when i when i speak about those artists it's in a context where whereby i'm saying yes it's easy to think that we don't know got it right it's easy to think that while we're you know talking about lady gaga his latest fashion statement or speculating about kanye west mental health or whatever that actually the stuff of politics is going on behind our backs and it's not going well for us it's not going well for terry people but we are indeed being distracted . but then i go on to talk about beyonce and black lives well here one could always say the beyond there is reading the door no and that's why the black panthers were there in that celebrated superball only or we will examine it and no i don't know it and i don't i have to respectfully disagree i encourage you to go back i don't attack what i do say is that a lot of the conversation around that performance of formation at the super bowl. focuses on her motives is she being opportunistic or mean it what

i argue is that her motives are not the real story they're not the real point the real point is that for whatever reasons she has decided to get political at that time april twenty sixth game why and the answer that i gave is that the movement of the streets the black eyes matta movement had created such momentum that even somebody as as huge and as wealthy and so on is beyond say decided to to to reference it and i think that when she referenced it that was useful i think that was useful for the black eyes matta movement but elsewhere in the music scene because pop idol with masses of all around the world in its many franchises you think it is symptomatic of the sort of corporate new liberal corruption of music there were no era i mean i sort of s. here no that's true that is true i vacillated on this question for some time

actually because i recognize that there are examples for exam dangers for a musician like you to attack salmon colored thing going well i don't think so i'm a cow has much interest in me on the question of x. factor and pop idol and all these sorts of shore girl merkins or the mark of ages. yes i mean. more referring to racism and sexism in the music industry with pop idol i think that as i say i vacillated because you do get the cajuns such as the victory of mohammed atta. from gaza on arab idol and that was a great moment for lots of palestinians a moment of celebration so for a moment i thought well maybe this is a way in which. artists can get through artists who wouldn't have been let through by the traditional gatekeepers of the music industry but then i changed my mind for actually is. if you look at the format of the shows this fetishizing nation of

competition whoever wins it's the same be companies who get richer because you have to sign an exclusive deal with those companies. and you know this kind of pseudo democracy we get to vote actually how we vote is very much determined by the opinions of an unelected panel of experts and so actually i conclude that these shows mirror some of the worst aspects of the capitalist system as a whole and just finally in terms of music as a weapon many people the going underground team want to be there because grime is something that britain. should be proud of you know how easily. the is the international music industry going to co-opt the themes used in growing which is now an international phenomenon as unusual new music well they certainly will co-opt certain artists but i think that the important thing about grime for me

i mean aside from being very exciting musically the important thing is that it talks about the real lived experience of everyday people of ordinary people. in particular talks about the experiences of growing up in particular parts of south london near where i live but you you're starting to see this not only in who i am but also artists like kate tempest you've got coming out of notting in the sleeve you've got a number of artists who are starting to talk about the unvarnished reality of life for ordinary people i welcome that i think that's an exciting development but of course the mainstream music industry will try to steer it in a different direction in a less meaningful direction as i say culture is always constantly contested in those ways david randall thank you thank you. after the break from the dark side of the moon pink floyd's. the wall how roger waters is

continued to sing truth to power hundred deadly superbugs on london's transport system to three hundred thousand unaccompanied children looking for safety around the world we go underground all the news buried by the mainstream media all this and more coming over but two of growing up to grow. now if mubarak tanks that's a seventy billion dollars potential loss and you point out it's mostly private investors which would include let's say goldman sachs and others but if these folks

like a goldman sachs suffer any losses at all remember they've anchored on the government for a bailout so they could go to the government say over blew up we need to bail out and the government because it's staffed by goldman sachs employees mostly trump they would rubber stamp that bailout and then to pay for the bailout they'd have to go into people's pension accounts and they have to grab that money or wells fargo and go into your personal account and grab that money. we all willingly accepted the risk of being shot wounded taken prisoner but noone signed up to be friggin poisoned by our own people that was your biological and chemical products said do not truck tires all types of styrofoam will polystyrene batteries trucks there was a complete denial i think at all levels of government that there was any connection between berm pits and what these. brave soldiers were suffering from to compensate

every soldier marine airman and sailor that was on the ground that are complaining about the illnesses from their exposure from the burn pits would literally send to be a pro and they don't want to pay it so the waiting decades a lot of those soldiers will die in time and they won't have to pay. for it the middle finger movie isn't all that. delayed and i hope you. welcome back this week's anti nato protest in brussels is unlikely to be mentioned much in the mainstream media but what other stories have been lost in the wedding of someone go pippa middleton trump again bombing syrian forces fighting isis diane and the attempts to capture julian it's well he was going on the ground deputy at the just about in ppaca reporting on some of this week's buried news.

in a week saturated with leaks and absolutely soaked in news we bring you the stories that hold more water than watergate where as richard nixon got into trouble for trying to read other people's documents the current commander in chief donald trump is reportedly only interested in government documents if they feature his name but one of the documents that may have slipped from his mind ahead of his foreign visit is president it's one here during an appearance on the very fair fox and friends i want to go out of the world trade center it wasn't the iraqis it was shorter you have to take a look at saudi arabia. hops in an attempt to put those comments behind him trump's hired country star toby keith to perform a male only concert for his trip to saudi arabia this in a country not content with air strikes in yemen so far back to the dark ages that nineteen million people face famine it's even now being alleged that they are bombing their own people the eastern town of our mia the just so happens to be in

the oil rich region of the teeth has seen saudi gunfire shelling and demolition of homes reportedly resulted in the death of a two year old child children are also in peril as they flee other u.k. u.s. backed conflicts in the middle east the u.n. reporting that the number of unaccompanied child refugees globally has increased five fold since two thousand and ten that's three hundred thousand children looking for asylum and searching for safety around the world but as refugees fight for home political candidates in the u.k. vying for one hundred room house in one of the u.k.'s most expensive neighborhoods number ten downing street for a while to raise them a break sit down to i was dancing queen jeremy cool been sparked interest in the growing community sitting down for a nice speaking brunch with j m e all rappers like novelist a caller and storm see also back to labor leader. while the world recovers from one of the worst computer virus attacks in history

a study has revealed that nine of the world were asked antibiotic resistant super bugs can be found on london's transport system that's why it's always a risk when we go underground. deputy editors about the back of their own covering the buried news half a century ago today pink floyd were celebrating the recording of their debut album since then pink floyd has become one of the world's most politically outspoken rock bands lead singer roger waters advocates for palestinian rights and fought for military whistleblower chelsea manning freed last week here in london pink floyd's records videos and live shows have been preserved in an exhibition at london's victoria and albert museum called their mortal remains it runs from now until october to go behind the scenes here is going underground senior producer pete bennett with pink floyd's creative director and the man behind the band's most iconic album or.

the rock n roll hall of fame is pink floyd one of the most successful exports of all time six number one albums in over two hundred fifty billion cells worldwide they shifted more units and david spears combined celebrated the early originators of progressive rock they've won grammys back and produce a religious cult film pink floyd the wall missing out to eat seat and soap in the box office charts the scale of the groundbreaking live performances of legendary they're one of the first bands to travel with a dedicated light shard with a forty foot long inflatable pig called algae and paper sheet from cannons into the crowd symbolizing political exploitation and oppression deep rooted in their music the band cool to see. even the boy caught by the then apartheid government south africa. so to commemorate fifty years of pink floyd london's v.n.a.

museum is holding an audio visual journey in tights with the pink floyd exhibition mills remains i went to speak to the band's cultural director co-founder of the design company hypnosis and the man behind some of the most iconic album time ovi power i began by asking him how he's all have become landmarks in the political landscape that day. yes i think the album cover was very representation of the political landscape of the time when the reader for the animals we look at the period politically there was a lot of upheaval there was a lot of he will politically around the world and i think roger waters tapped into the fact of george orwell with animal farm and tried to make that correlation between us and then politically the working classes and the ruling classes and tried to say something which he always did all his albums had that if you look at the wall for example you know he's talking specifically about the depression not

only globally between countries and philosophies and diktats he's also talking about the emotional wall exists between people people on the able to express themselves and i think roger always discusses these more intelligent cerebral issues and he also certainly writes them into the lyrics and into the foundations of each concept of each album for mental health and the dark side of the me to rebelling against the system on the wall each album serves as a reminder of pink floyd's social commentary with the pig flying over battersea power station in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven animals i wanted to know the story behind a building that was once a symbol of industry becoming a symbol for inequality and how he felt about the building he wants a more to life be converted into luxury flats during a housing crisis when roger waters first suggested. and b. that he wanted to fly a pig of a bassett past and would i be the creative director of that event the past ation

was still working it was still an operating working class blue color environment and it represented to him something that was incredibly submissive you know put down the same time represented this enormous building that was a piece of wonderful brick built architecture beautiful and i think now when i look at sales and i see what they're doing to it i'm deeply sad i was at that the other day standing on the roof actually by one of the chimneys which is quite daunting and all around me there were blocks of new flats being build being compassing this wonderful view and actually it depressed me because in a way when i took that photograph i had the best of it i had the best view of it and roger's conception was at the best time you know and the power station was

dying at that point because they realized in the late seventy's that that sort of industrial. you know smoke laden coal burning. factory if you like was obsolete it was killing people with small good stuff like that and had to be closed down so you will says his license northcote sects just. use his pig to cover the front chicago strong towers in an act of protest disappeared he the page was a very. busy expression used in the sixty's and seventy's during the revolutionary times. when a student riots were going all men citizens in universities were happening kent state in america all this sort of thing and roger was a symbol of the page was represented actually by the pope. you know one used to call the police the pigs so big pay coming out of

a stadium where the police in america would be busting people for drugs or hitting people in the head with with truncheons or whatever you know there were those up evil at that time and i see this the symbol of the pig represented all thoresby and was to be thrown into the crowd and over the crowd to be torn to pieces and that's how roger waters still uses his wall shows today so when you get that symbol of the pig being put in front of trump tower in america to me it's a giving it the big finger saying. you know when i haven't been rogers farias outspoken. and i think another example of that is to do with the war is very interesting trump if you pursue a child you'll see and then look back a few months when he was campaigning he actually said i'm going to build a wall between mexico and america and i think this is just like a red rag to

a bull with roger waters smith pacifically when he has a strong political view and finally from the wall that will separate united states and mexico to the wall in the west bank how is it that artists today struggle in see commit see movements like roger waters house when it come see supporting sanctions against israel over the treatment of palestinians when i look back pink floyd's history and it goes right back to the early years when i can remember that during a free concert for the communist collar workers in paris during the paris riots i don't know sixty seven sixty eight. they've always been a political animal and i think that that will continue in a sense of what saddens me about a lot of today's musical styles is there's none of that aggressive politico. they have the opportunity on the platform. to make another

perhaps one. thing in the streets of raw so we no longer wish to have kent state university three revisits nevertheless bunch more protests could be made. use of the music visuals to express that. should be put forward. that doesn't exist while we are in difficult political climate it's what we really all i mean as far as i'm concerned music the streets of the people in the streets. hope you enjoyed that request your favorite show from the latest season of going underground will be back with another great season of going underground on saturday the second of september but till then keep in touch via social media will still be reading lol your communication with the team.

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