brought up. a push for impeachment who's behind it and why on this edition of politic. politicking on larry king late last week democratic congressman steve cohen of tennessee announced that he would file articles of impeachment against president donald j. trump representative cohen says he's doing this because of the president's recent comments following the horrific events in charlottesville virginia which left three americans dead all this while house democratic leader nancy pelosi announced that she will endorse a call to censure the president also for his response to the violent white supremacist march in charlottesville so what happens after congressman cohen

introduces a beach when articles on who among his colleagues has promised support let's talk to the congresswoman and find out steve cohen is a democrat of tennessee ranking member of the house judiciary subcommittee on the constitution and civil justice he joins us from memphis. where has this gone down of you have you filed any. proceedings. now we have drafted orders for going to be probably for articles and have that in the drafting stage and we sent out today to our colleagues an announcement that we were doing such and asking them if they'd like to see copies of the final draft force co-sponsorship congressman al green if used in texas has already called to sign on before saying it he supports impeachment it is a good ally we hope to have others. it's just you got to get the language day on and we pretty much got it concerning the. komi firing and obstruction of justice

the emoluments clause in the ability to defend us against both domestic and foreign foes and the president has shown inadequacies in both. could you have a republican told congress can they get a new where. it won't until some republicans get on it and i don't think republicans will get on until they see the possibility of causing them to lose the majority they may see that before twenty eighteen it may take the twenty eighteen election and thus either gaining the majority are getting close to a jordi for them to realize that they are in jeopardy and they could move in twenty nineteen but you know larry if i can't condemn the republicans who have a different more difficult time coming out against trump and being from peach mint because their base still supports trop and most republican house members districts are pretty much decided in the in the primary of the republican party unless i get out there and i feel i felt like i've got a good safe district but if i don't get out there on it how can they get out there so it's taken a step to hopefully move things along every every great long march start the first

few steps or they journalling you all still you know in intimate circles when they're not on the house floor. republicans many of them know that this band is not capable of representing him serving our country as commander in chief and his chief executive and a lot of the mo that bob corker a senator from tennessee came out and said in very strong terms the same day that i announced. the sedition to. put in a feature articles that the president was not capable and he had not shown an ability to have a competent administration i think there are a lot of people that know that john mccain did jeff flake who wrote a book to lindsey graham to tim scott to ben sass and other senators and they're even ted cruz and marco rubio criticized him pretty much if not if not just a bleakly for the statements they made about charlottesville if you can't come out and condemn without any question nazis and klansmen you can't represent

and be the president that states and the there's two different theories on pietschmann but the main overall it says treason high crimes and misdemeanors but if you read the federalist papers federal sixty five by hamilton it talks about. support of a concept the george mason had which is maladministration and maladministration basically says you're doing a ph but to save the nation from a president who's incapable of leading the country and making sure the president of the country is in good shape it's not a punishment technique of punishing somebody because he violated a law and then you remove him from office in fact it's not even double jeopardy to be impeached and then tried later it's not a crime it's a it's an opportunity to act on behalf of the country you were into running of the house democrats filed a no confidence resolution against the president in july what happened with us. well it's been introduced at first it was twenty now it's up to thirty twenty nine

people and myself and that was kind of like impeachment light or would now being considered to censure ship it would need the republicans to schedule it for a hearing it i doubt they will we're asking chairman goodlatte in judiciary to have hearings on some of the incidents in charlottesville i don't know that doubt he'll still do that either where the only committee of standing judiciary and senate and house intelligence and senate and house of the four that has not had any hearings and i think it's incumbent upon us and our representative. jurisdiction of the f.b.i. and over civil rights and we did have hearings and probably just as well to change when you are jewish i'm jewish yes a number of jewish americans jarrad and involved in trump national economic council director gary clone. he's there on the trail of the administration the events in charlottesville should they quit. you know that's a good question larry if i certainly wouldn't think i would encourage certain

people i wouldn't encourage madis are mcmaster our kelly to quit because i think they're the three adults in the room at all times and i think they have a veto or might be able exercise a veto over him to do it's up and totally threatening the world peace and and a war. you know cone and. i thought minutia and went too far and i think he gave up some of his what should have been moral of the war to you although i'm not sure you know where he stands in general thought kerry cohen would quit he didn't they could do more good on the inside than they can if they're out and for that reason i can see why they may want to stay but they both stood up there when he made those announcements i think it was tuesday or monday at trump tower and they looked very embarrassed and should have been. we use shocked at that press conference. totally he was off the rails and you could see the giant general kelly knew he was off the rails his head was just down like what is he doing now

we've got this is it was definitely a machine got a moment and the guy was just totally off off script off the rails and and when you just can't he can't condemn we fought wars to defeat the nazis we fought wars to defeat the confederates those confederate flags being used by the k.k.k. were and do tema they terrorize african-americans and jews they were marching and yelling jews will not replace us and blood and so world that's what we've got with the final line with me i've always thought this man was not capable morally ethically or are intellectually to be president states that did not attend his inauguration because i really think he's one of the worst human beings in the entire world and i mean his life is just been one story after another that's putrid his casinos went bankrupt he couldn't even run casinos well he's not been a good businessman he's not been the honorable businessman he's not anybody you want to have as a neighbor and certainly not a president other than that or do you like a. lot of that what i like about him i don't like anything about him to be honest

what are you not going to like about the man he thought that he had to look at the seven deadly sins he covers all of them brighid last slot. he's got that he's got him all covered what do you make of steve benen leaving. i think that bam and leaving are probably good for the country he never should have been in the white house nor should steven miller of the gore because there's still some bad apples in there but he was i think like causing havoc and did cause havoc he wants to get rid of what he calls the deep state is against the globalist still won't be doing that or breitbart by park and have an effect on the outside you know it all statement about he'd rather have somebody on the inside doing it out than on the outside doing it and he may be doing it on the outside and trump may get a blow but he may get a ritz carlton treatment steve things so much for joining us always great talking to you. larry thank you for taking care of terry lewis is memory and thank you for

everything you've done let's turn now to our panel in studio's political analyst amy holmes good to have are here she is former staffer to senate majority leader bill frist and previously served design for the blaze t.v. and in washington democratic strategist julian epstein he served as chief minority counsel to the house judiciary is two million is former staff director of the government oversight and reform committee we call them our dynamic duo. what do you make of this impeachment move amy i think it would be a big mistake larry for democrats to go down this path and how do we know this because the republicans tried it back in the ninety's and the upshot was that they lost seats in the house and newt gingrich lost his speakership i think the you know best advice that i've heard for to for democrats or from democrats from democrats like gavin newsome who's running for lieutenant governor of california who says listen our party needs to focus on economic issues bread and butter issues the

issues affecting the middle class and the working class we need to stay focused on the voters and not be so obsessed with this impeachment you know you ended a impeachment move well i think amy is exactly. back then i would just amend it by saying it's premature to talk about impeachment and she's exactly correct in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight republicans jumped the gun on the impeachment question very quickly the public turned against them the opposition party the democrats of that time circled the wagons and impeachment was doomed as a result of republicans overplaying their hand i would say however the two cases are very different clinton's case involved covering an extramarital affair in the context of a civil lawsuit something that nobody's ever been prosecuted for in this case we're talking about an investigation into the president for obstruction of justice right now or at least according to multiple reports collusion with

a foreign power to upset the government and possibly a long list of potential financial crimes that muller is investigating you put that together with the fact that while clinton's approval rating was at seventy three percent of the end of impeachment donald trump says in the mid thirty's and he's increasingly isolated not just from the business community whose are deserving him in droves the military community who criticized him over charlottesville last week but his own republican senator corker last week saying he doesn't know if this president is competent or really mentally stable and so their cases are very different legally the political context is very legal is very different as well because while president clinton had broad based support amongst the public in his own party exactly the opposite is true with donald trump so while democrats shouldn't be calling for impeachment it should be letting the investigations run their course donald trump is on very very perilous territory right now and he has to say the trump has been a disappointment to you. and serving republican mike right i was

always critical of donald trump i actually don't think it's on a trump as a conservative and he's only recently you know and only recently a republican i have to say i was. very disappointed and dismayed by his reaction to charlottesville i mean this is pretty easy to be against neo nazis it doesn't take great political genius to come up with why does he keep his base why does he keep his base wolf because you know if you remember through the campaign his base they excused a lot of this behavior comments the your member the access hollywood thing because they saw someone who was strong that was like the number one characteristic they were looking for in a leader they also saw someone who was addressing their concerns when it comes to economic and security looking at national security issues and as a dollar terms pollster told me john mclaughlin that that these voters they want to change for them it was a change election and donald trump represented a dramatic change you know they look at the republic the other republican

candidates and what they saw was establishing that donald trump was going to be a break with that both from on the right and the left for these voters and one thing i would also remind our audience is that donald trump supporters early in the republican primary were actually republicans who were more likely to support raising the minimum wage they were union supporters they were supporting increasing taxes on the rich they were not ideological they were not hard core conservatives the conservatives were going for ted cruz marco rubio jeb bush had such as those politicians split that vote donald trump's voters were never the sort of traditional republican conservative people thought amy holmes and julian i've seen them i guess and we'll have more with them right after this. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last wrong turn. your act caught up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest

. i remember when we first met my life turned on each. but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was again still some. my front a few those that didn't like to question are are. the promised to never seen. it sank one does not leave the funeral on the same is one enters the mind it's consumed with this one to. speak to us and we know entertain. aimed at mainstream media has not it's make.

i'm john harshman i'll give you what the mainstream media can't cope big picture will go deeper investigate and debate all so you can get the big picture. of the back to politicking i'm talking with amy holmes political analyst and julian epstein democratic strategist and former counsel to the house judiciary committee all right julian and he has reserved thoughts about mr trump. what do you make of this first and see. well i think it's a complete disaster for the country i think he is there in crude increasing questions about whether he has the competence the temperament to be president i don't think he processes information very well i think he shows a very tenuous grasp on issues like north korea china. taxes health care i think probably

a ham sandwich could be more effective in getting things done than those president at this point because he continually shoots himself in the foot i think amy's critique was exactly on point i don't think he really. as a conservative i don't think he has any course set of beliefs other than things that will feed and aggrandize his own ego i don't think he really ever was a conservative he was for single payer health care just several years ago he wanted pres hillary clinton as secretary of state he shifts positions on every has more positions on issues than kind of in a game of twister i so i think he's a bit of a snake oil salesman and i think he was able to capitalize and manipulate people's anxieties particularly in the midwest about the economy kind of passing them by. and he's accomplished absolutely nothing in seven months now he's no major legislative reform the first time i think we've ever seen that in

a modern president. it's true as amy said that this was a change election but nearly every election has been a change election since two thousand and four. or at least since two thousand and six and in terms of your question larry to amy about why isn't the base those earning him well the base of starting to desert him he's running even now with white male voters and in the recent quinnipiac poll republicans who enthusiastically supported him in january and february were up around seventy nine percent they're down to about fifty five percent so you see the enthusiasm even amongst republicans now starting to wane you see that the fish are starting to accuse her and i think going back to the other question on impeachment i think a lot of republicans you know he attacked the senate majority leader for not getting health care done he had chat attacked the senator from washington state he attacked the senator from south carolina you see you're seeing increasing number of

senators openly defying and rebuking this president right now and i think once they get a permission slip from the voters his numbers are down to thirty four percent if they drop into the upper twenty's i think republicans are going to start. asking themselves would they rather have my parents. as the number one guy rather than donald trump and i think a lot of republicans right now are saying yes to that question i wouldn't go that i wouldn't go that far i think obviously you know politicians are concerned with their own survival and their own preservation and of course they'll be following the polls and you already see republicans you know at least speaking off the record to different journalists reporters inside the beltway that they will be distancing themselves from the president i think we really what they're looking at is what can we do legislatively that doesn't necessarily require the president you know use the bully pulpit where so i think that's what's going not putting the country through the wrenching process of impeachment i think republicans see that that would not be

good for the country repeatedly repudiating a previous election is not a good idea we have a democracy you know a republic for a reason and this can be really you know litigated in twenty twenty or in twenty eighty frankly well you'll have a hearing in management i'm not advocating input i don't think that i would consider any to that place at all but you know i think republicans are i think republicans are starting to tell and this is being reported on widely are starting to tell. reporters that bear increasingly uncomfortable with a guy that they don't think is competent to be president of the united states and if the numbers go down at the twenty's amy let me just ask you are the republicans who answer the question of robert mueller says the firing of james komi was obstruction of justice as many legal experts believe it was are republicans answer their questions when in fact they were the ones that voted to impeach clinton on an obstruction charge that was as flimsy as him just speaking to his secretary betty currie about her testimony listen

a lot of republicans get around that question of obstruction of justice i think a lot of republicans would point to what i did was that when they pursued his friend of president clinton it was very disruptive to the country and to their own party and they can't see that. you know this path forward would be a very smart idea and particularly when donald trump when he campaigned he pulled off a spectacular victory that no one was expecting by addressing issues that these voters cared about so i think republicans their answers this is we need to roll up our sleeves try to get an agenda through and not just you know for president trump actually for their own political survival come the mid-term so they're looking at the debt ceiling they're looking at tax reform they're looking at infrastructure i mean you know that there's a caucus in the house that is. twenty twenty democrats and twenty republicans who are trying to look at bipartisan solutions the head of the freedom party in the house just a few weeks ago i was very surprised by this he said look our approach has not been successful in terms of our you know pushing forward our legislative agenda we need

to change course and we need to reach out to the other side so i think you might see more bipartisanship and really bypassing the president ited states and i mean i just think right now the idea that you're going to get democrats rallying behind anything this president is going to propose or that the president has the temperament and the patience and the attention span to work on any major policy change be a tax reform be it health care be it infrastructure i think the likelihood of that particular with the business community now deserving this president gets less and less all the time but i guess my question would be ashamed wouldn't you say are there when there isn't any but i mean he wanted to work with republicans when republicans are you know are i if republicans have good ideas to lay on the table then i think democrats ought to do that but i want to take you back to a question that you really really skillfully avoided and you had good and that well the coalition is if not all get it no no no no i'm saying that in

a very complimentary way. if bob mueller says that the firing of james komi was obstruction of justice and many legal experts believe it was and the president made you know him. well i would and i even. when i mean time defied even jamie testified that the president you know has the the authority and the right to fire him that he serves at the pleasure of the president that doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice so i would say the weight of legal opinion is on the side that it was obstruction of justice but i'm just asking you a question if mueller comes back and says that was obstruction of justice and your answer to that was well impeachments to wenching for this country to really proceed with what i want to give you is what about what about the rule of law where do republicans answer on the rule of law i mean i thought they were a walk on well there were no laws it was really well to i would have the rhetoric in one thousand nine hundred eighty was i went to law which is also legal experts say that the prize united states can't be indicted while he's you know in office sitting at six hundred pennsylvania if you know i mean these are all obligated can

be indicted damn people well we have started the president again julian you're you're proposing all of these hypotheticals there are plenty of people who don't think that the president committed obstruction of justice you don't think that the moon or investigation is going to turn up anything significant if it did yes that would be a question for both parties to address in a way that is both appropriate for the you know whatever the investigation uncovers and appropriate to the country and moving forward i mean how can you say how can you say that it's not going to turn up anything when all your stuff hold on the campaign chief of staff just had his home raided by the f.b.i. with a warrant which is the first judicial ruling that there is probable cause of a crime. new service nothing significant to be well it may be turned up about paul man a fort it still doesn't mean that it's connected to president trump in any of his activity or behaviors and what we know with the investigation that as you said in this show that robert muller is looking at you know financial improprieties among

trump associates that may have nothing to do with rush i could have done something to do with paul metaphors business dealings ten years ago one of those that have something to do with crimes properties as well when we just don't know didn't the confederacy thing didn't move you in the gut it did larry i have to say as an african-american as someone who grew up in the pacific northwest i do not understand the southern attachment to these confederate figures i believe that confederate monuments are a reflection of a communities values i don't understand why they want to project those type of values and robert e. lee himself said that he didn't think it was appropriate to build monuments that we need to be able to move forward i don't know if you've seen larry but the grandchildren of stonewall jackson grandson of robert e. lee said take these statues down i think it's time to turn the page move forward and you know clearly from what we saw in charlottesville there are far too many people who do believe that these monuments are symbols of neo nazi ism and white

supremacy and this is why we think. the national weather service in mount holly new jersey has issued a severe thunderstorm warning for southeastern berks county in eastern pennsylvania northwestern montgomery county in southeastern pennsylvania northeastern chester county in southeastern pennsylvania until ten fifteen pm at nine twenty two pm a severe thunderstorm was located over adamstown for seven miles southwest of reading moving east at forty miles per hour hazard sixty miles per hour wind gusts and quarter size hail source radar indicated impact minor damage to vehicles is possible expects damage to trees and power lines locations impacted include reading

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teach people about how this country fought and got past one of the ugliest periods in our history but they should certainly as amy says not be these kind of public in public squares in a way that kind of you know defies a reviewer's what these people stood for because they stood for nothing good about his attacks on the media obviously that pays well to this place right that plays well to oh sure i mean if you want to throw out red meat to republicans or conservatives attacking the media is a very easy way to do it and let's face it the media has published a lot of stories about president trump that turned out to be false or unfair and there's a whole laundry list of them and you saw that c.n.n. had to fire three journalists for publishing a piece about anthony's car mixi that one's you know it's not up to c.n.n. standards so he does have a point but he takes it too far when i agree with julian i think that there is a certain sort of reflexive defensiveness you know fake news fake news there is fake news but there's also real news and real reporting that you know we're all in

gauged in and trying to inform the public and in the case of charlottesville it wasn't fake news that white supremacists and neo nazis showed up you know it she for a fight chanting anti-semitic slogans that wasn't fake news and we needed a president to take this opportunity to try to unify our country will news's become panels panels again these are like you know it's a chaotic panels it's almost looks like an airport lounge chair naomi thanks so much and it's funny they are thank you guys and thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me of kings things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag that's all for this edition of politicking. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. you're out caught up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm

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