tv Politicking With Larry King RT August 22, 2017 11:30pm-12:01am EDT
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a push for impeachment who's behind it and why on this edition of politicking. going on larry king late last week democratic congressman steve cohen of tennessee announced that he would file articles of impeachment against president donald j. trump representative cohen says he's doing this with close of the president's recent comments following the horrific events in charlottesville virginia which left three americans dead all a small house democratic leader nancy pelosi announced that she will endorse a call to censure the president also for his response so the violent white supremacist march in charlottesville so what happens after congressman cohen introduces a beach when articles on who among his colleagues has promised support let's talk to the congressman and find out steve cohen is
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a democrat of tennessee ranking member of the house judiciary subcommittee on the constitution and civil justice he joins us from memphis. where has this gone that i view you have you filed any. proceedings. now we have drafted orders for going to be probably for articles and. the drafting stage and we set out today to our colleagues out announcement that we were doing such and asking them if they'd like to see copies of the final draft force co-sponsorship congress great of houston texas has already called to sign on before saying it he supports impeachment it is a good ally we hope to have others. it's just you got to get the language down and we pretty much got it concerning the. komi firing and obstruction of justice the a my humans' clause that the ability to defend us against both domestic and foreign follows and the president is shown inadequacies in both. would you have
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a republican told congress can we get a new or. it won't tell some republicans get on it and i don't think republicans will get on until they see the possibility of causing them to lose the majority they may see that before twenty eighteen it may take the twenty eighteen election and thus either gaining the majority are getting close to a jordi for them to realize that they are in jeopardy and they could move in twenty nineteen but you know larry if i can't condemn the republicans who have a different more difficult time coming out against trump and being from peach mint because their base still supports trop and most republican house members districts are pretty much decided in the in the primary of the republican party unless i get out there and i feel i've felt like i've got a good safe district but if i don't get out there on it how can they get out there so it's taken a step to hopefully move things along in every every great long march start the first few steps or they journalling you all still you know in intimate circles when they're not on the floor. republicans many of them know that this band is not
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capable of representing him serving our country as commander in chief and his chief executive and a lot of the mo that bob corker a senator from tennessee came out and said and very strong terms the same day that i announced my i did set sedition to. put in a feature articles that the president was not capable and he had not shown an ability to have a competent administration i think there are a lot of people that know that from john mccain to jeff flake who wrote a book to lindsey graham to tim scott to ben sass and other senators and they're even ted cruz and marco rubio criticized him pretty much if not if not just a bleakly for the statements they made about charlottesville if you can't come out and condemn without any question nazis and klansmen you can't represent and be the president that states and the there's two different theories on peach mint but the main. overall it says treason high crimes and misdemeanors but if you
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read the federalist papers federal sixty five by hamilton it talks about. support of a concept the george mason had which is maladministration and maladministration basically says you're doing a ph but to save the nation from a president who's incapable of leading the country and making sure the president of the country is in good shape it's not a punishment technique of punishing somebody because he violated a law and then you remove him from office in fact it's not even double jeopardy to be impeached and then tried later it's not a crime it's a it's an opportunity to act on behalf of the country you know the house democrats filed a no confidence resolution against the president in july what happened with us. well it's been introduced it first was twenty now it's up to thirty twenty nine people and myself and that was kind of like impeachment light or would now be considered to censure ship it would need the republicans to schedule it for a hearing it i doubt they will we're asking chairman goodlatte in judiciary to have
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hearings on some of the incidents in charlottesville i don't know that doubt he'll still do that either we're the only committee of standing judiciary and senate and house intelligence and senate and house of the four that has not had any hearings and i think it's incumbent upon us that our representative capacity with jurisdiction over the f.b.i. and over civil rights and we don't have hearings and probably not as well change when you're jewish i'm jewish yes a number of jewish americans jarret in a volunteer trump national economic council director gary clone. he was there on the trip the administration the events in charlottesville should they quit. you know that's a good question larry if i certainly wouldn't they would encourage certain people i wouldn't encourage madis are macmaster or kelly to quit because i think they're the three adults in the room at all times and i think they have a veto or might be able exercise of the. over him do it's up in totally threatening
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the world peace and end of war. you know conan and. i thought minutia and went too far and i think he gave up some of his what should have been moral of the word although i'm not sure you know where he stands in general i thought kerry cohen would quit he didn't they could do more good on the inside than they can if they're out and for that reason i can see why they may want to stay but they both stood up there when he made those announcements and i think it was tuesday or monday at trump tower and they looked very embarrassed and should have been we use sharpest at that press conference. totally he was off the rails and you could see the john general kelly knew he was off the rails his head was just down like what is he doing now we've got this is it was definitely a sure got a moment and the guy was just totally off off script off the rails and and when you just can't he can't condemn we fought wars to defeat the nazis we fought wars to
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the feet the confederates those confederate flags being used by the k.k.k. were and do tend to date and terrorize african-americans and jews they were marching and yelling jews will not replace us and blood and so world that's what we've got with the final line with me i've always thought this man was not capable morally ethically or are intellectually to be president states that did not attend his inauguration because i really think he's one of the worst human beings in the entire world and i mean his life is just been one story after another that's putrid his casinos went bankrupt he couldn't even run casinos well he's not been a good businessman he's not been the honorable businessman he's not anybody you want to have as a neighbor. and certainly not a president other than that or do you like. that what i like about him i don't like anything about him to be honest what are you not going to like about the man he thought that he had to look at the seven deadly sins he covers all of them brighid last slot. he's got he's got it all covered what do you
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make of steve benen leaving. i think that bannon's leaving are probably good for the country he never should have been in the white house nor should steven miller of the gore because there's still some bad apples in there but he was i think like causing havoc and did cause havoc he wants to get rid of what he calls the deep state he's against the globalist to be doing that breitbart breitbart can have an effect on the outside you know it all statement about he'd rather have somebody on the inside doing it out than on the outside doing it and he may be doing it on the outside and trump may get a blue but he may get a ritz carlton treatment steve thanks so much for joining us always great talking to you. larry thank you for taking care of jerry lewis of memory and thank you for everything you've done let's turn now to our panel in studios political analyst amy holmes good to have are here she is former staffer to senate majority leader bill frist and previously served as anchor for the blaze t.v.
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and in washington democratic strategist julian epstein he served as chief minority counsel to the house judiciary committee and is former staff director of the government oversight and reform committee we call them our dynamic duo. what do you make of this impeachment move amy i think that it would be a big mistake larry for democrats to go down this path and how do we know this because the republicans tried it back in the ninety's and the upshot was that they lost seats in the house and newt gingrich lost his speakership i think the you know best advice that i've heard for to route for democrats or from democrats from democrats like gavin newsome who's running for lieutenant governor of california who says listen our party needs to focus on economic issues bread and butter issues the issues affecting the middle class and the working class we need to stay focused on the voters and not be so obsessed with this impeachment you know you ended the impeachment move. well i think amy is exactly correct and i would just amend it by
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saying it's premature to talk about impeachment and she's exactly correct in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight republicans jump to the guy on the impeachment question very quickly the public turned against them the opposition party the democrats so that time circled the wagons and impeachment was doomed as a result of republicans overplaying their hand i would say however the two cases are very different clinton's case involved covering an extramarital affair in the context of a civil lawsuit something that nobody's ever been prosecuted for in this case we're talking about an investigation into the president for obstruction of justice right now at least according to multiple reports collusion with a foreign power to upset the government and possibly.
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and i have to say i was very disappointed and dismayed by his reaction to charlottesville i mean this is pretty easy to be against neo nazis it doesn't take great political genius to come up with why does he keep his base why does he keep his base wolf because you know if you remember through the campaign his base they excused a lot of this behavior comments and the you remember the access hollywood thing because they saw someone who was strong that was like the number one characteristic they were looking for in a leader they also saw someone who was addressing their concerns when it comes to economic and security looking at national security issues and as a doll jobs pollster told me john mclaughlin that that these voters they want to change for them it was a change election and donald trump represented a dramatic change you know they look at the republic the other republican candidates and what they saw was establishing that donald trump was going to be a break with that both from on the right and the left for these voters and one thing i would also remind our audience is that donald trump supporters early in the
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republican primary were actually republicans who were more likely to support raising the minimum wage they were union supporters they were supporting increasing taxes on the rich they were not ideological they were not hard core conservatives the conservatives were going for ted cruz marco rubio jeb bush had such as those politicians split that vote donald trump's voters were never the sort of traditional republican conservative people thought amy holmes and julian i've seen them i guess and we'll have more with them right after this. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last wrong turn. your act right up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest . i remember when we first met my life turned on each. but then my feeling started to change you talked about. still.
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other than things that will feed and aggrandize his own ego i don't think he really ever was a conservative he was for single payer health care just several years ago he lauded pres hillary clinton as secretary of state he shifts positions on every has more positions on issues than kind of in a game of twister i so i think he's a bit of a snake oil salesman and i think he was able to capitalize and manipulate people's anxieties particularly in the midwest about the economy kind of passing them by. and he's accomplished absolutely nothing in seven months now he's no major legislative reform the first time i think we've ever seen that in a modern president. it's true as amy said that this was a change election but nearly every election has been a change election since two thousand and four. or at least since two thousand and six and in terms of your question larry to amy about why isn't the base
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deserving him well the base of starting to desert him he's running even now with white male voters and in the recent quinnipiac poll republicans who enthusiastically supported him in january and february were up around seventy nine percent they're down to about fifty five percent so you see the enthusiasm even amongst republicans now starting to wane you see that the fish are starting to occur occur and i think going back to the other question on impeachment i think a lot of republicans you know he attacked the senate majority leader for not getting health care done he had chat attack the senator from washington state he attacked the senator from south carolina you see you're seeing increasing number of senators openly defying and rebuking this president right now and i think once they get a permission slip from the voters his numbers are down to thirty four percent if they drop into the upper twenty's i think republicans are going to start asking
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themselves would they rather have. my parents. as the number one guy rather than donald trump and i think a lot of republicans right now are saying yes to that question i wouldn't go that i wouldn't go that far i think obviously you know politicians are concerned with their own survival and their own preservation and of course they'll be following the polls and you already see republicans you know at least speaking off the record to different journalists reporters inside the beltway that they will be distancing themselves from the president i think we really what they're looking at is what can we do legislatively that doesn't necessarily require the president you know use the bully pulpit where so i think that's what's going not putting the country through the wrenching process of impeachment and i think republicans see that that would not be good for the country repeatedly repudiating a previous election is not a good idea we have a democracy we have a republic for a reason and this can be really you know litigated in twenty twenty or in twenty eight frankly while you're doing your management i'm not advocating but i don't
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the following counties in pennsylvania chester delaware montgomery and philadelphia and new castle delaware in the following counties in new jersey plan to burlington camden gloucester ocean and salem. if you say i wouldn't have you sorry when it isn't happening but i would have any right to work with republicans when republicans are you know i if republicans have good ideas to lay on the table then i think democrats ought to do that but i want to take you back to a question that you really really skillfully avoided and you're good at that well the coalition is if no i get no no no no i'm saying that in a very complimentary way. if bob mueller says that the firing of james komi was obstruction of justice and many legal experts believe it was and the president made . well i would and even james where to me twenty five even jamie testify that the
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president you know has the authority and the right to fire him that he serves at the pleasure of the president but that doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice so i would say the weight of legal opinion is on the side that it was obstruction of justice but i'm just asking you a question if mueller comes back and says that was obstruction of justice and your answer to that was well impeachments to wrenching for this country to really proceed with well not what do you it's what about what about the rule of law where do republicans answer on the rule of law i mean i thought they were a walk on well there are those who are saying what really will tell whether the rhetoric in one thousand nine hundred eighty will talk about the law which is also legal experts say that the prize united states can't be indicted while he's you know in office sitting at six hundred pennsylvania if you know i mean these are all obligated can be indicted can't be broadwell we have stars as the president is again drilling you're you're proposing all of these hypotheticals there are plenty of people who don't think that the president committed obstruction just as you don't think that the moon or investigation is going to turn up anything significant
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if it did yes that would be a question for both parties to address in a way that is both appropriate for the you know whatever the investigation uncovers and appropriate to the country and moving forward but how can you say how can you say that it's not going to turn up anything when all your staff hold on the camp. chief of staff just had his home raided by the f.b.i. with a warrant which is the first judicial ruling that there was probable cause of a crime. how can you say there's nothing significant to be well it may be turned up about paul man a fort it still doesn't mean that it's connected to president trump in any of his activity or behaviors and what we know with the investigation that as you said in this show that robert muller is looking at you know financial improprieties among trump associates that may have nothing to do with rush i could have done something to do with paul metaphor it's business nearly ten years ago one of those that have something to do with crimes properties as well when we just don't know didn't the
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confederacy thing didn't that hit you in the gut it did larry i have to say as an african-american as someone who grew up in the pacific northwest i do not understand the southern attachment to these confederate figures i believe that confederate monuments are reflection of a community as values i don't understand why they want to project those type of values and robert e. lee himself said that he didn't think it was appropriate to build monuments that we need to be able to move forward i don't know if you've seen larry but the grandchildren of stonewall jackson grandson of robert e. lee said take these statues down i think it's time to turn the page move forward and you know clearly from what we saw in charlottesville there are far too many people who do believe that these monuments are symbols of neo nazi ism and white supremacy and this is why i don't think i'm term got off on that tact. i think it is one of his character flaws i think he doesn't like to be told what to say
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i think he likes to lash out against what he thinks is the mainstream media point of view on this. and i think that he believes that the far right and the far right represented by bennett and others who have had to close a relationship in my opinion with white supremacists were big part of his political base and he didn't want to he certainly didn't want to be told how and why he should repudiate them and this might i think is the tipping point in his presidency and i think it may be a point of no return particularly with his many republican senators saying what the wall street journal said which was the nazis and white supremacists are alone to blame for the violence that occurred in charlottesville and i fully agree with amy's point the civil war historians agree was first and foremost about the maintained maintenance of slavery in this country and the in the statutes that were erected were all arrested between about eight hundred ninety five and one nine
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hundred fifty nine hundred fifteen in that time period in one nine hundred fifty to one thousand nine hundred sixty five both of that those time periods reflected a period of southern resistance. to civil rights laws passed after the after the civil rights law after the civil war in the late eighty's hundreds and then the suit civil rights laws and courts decisions that were currying in the late fifty's and early sixty's and they are symbols of jim crow they are symbols of racism they were associated heavily with the lynchings of african-americans and i think they are disgusting symbols and if there's any place for him it should be in museums to teach people about how this country fought and got past when. the ugliest periods in our history but they should certainly as amy says not be these kind of public in public squares in a way that kind of you know defies
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a reviewer's what these people stood for because they stood for nothing good or about his attacks on the media obviously that pays well to those place that plays well to oh sure i mean if you want to throw out red meat to republicans or conservatives attacking the media is a very easy way to do it and let's face it the media has published a lot of stories about president trump that turned out to be false or unfair and there's a whole laundry list of them and you saw that c.n.n. had to fire three journalists for publishing a piece about anthony's car mitzi that one's you know it's not up to c.n.n. standards so he does have a point but he takes it too far when i agree with julian i think that there is a certain sort of reflexive defensiveness you know fake news fake news there is fake news but there's also real news and real reporting that you know we're all in gauged in and trying to inform the public and in the case of charlottesville it wasn't fake news that white supremacists and neo nazis showed up you know it's in for a fight chanting anti-semitic slogans that wasn't fake news and we needed
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a president to take this opportunity to try to unify our country will news's become panels panels again like you know panels always looks like an airport lounge chair naomi thanks so much and it's time they thank you guys and thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me of kings things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag that's all for this edition of politicking. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. you're out caught up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry but only i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned
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on each breath. but then my feelings started to change you talked about war like it was a cave still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our ark and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with death this one quite different i speak to you now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. i'm gonna do just that and you're watching all of. us washing. i'm john harshman i'll give you what the mainstream media can't go big picture
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