on larry king now the breakout star writer and creator of insecurity. it was. trying to break into the industry and be told no your work doesn't really have an audience nobody's looking at him in creating work online where i had an audience of people like oh this is great i fell late i just was awfully uncomfortable you know because i grew up in predominately white neighborhoods where. you're not like other black. i'm black so does that mean. some black people just be on my. back or do better this compliment you have a. money have a great boss understand that you sing your song on insecure call broken.

don't think of all this said. it and i don't know how you break it but explain it to me all next on larry king now. welcome to larry king our special guest is isa ray the golden globe nominated breakout star writer and creator of the emmy nominated h.b.o. series in secure he said so wrong content company called isa ray presents a collection of essays was a new york times best seller she's been named to forbes thirty on the thirty m. glamours thirty five on the thirty five lists and she recently graced the cover of the hollywood reporter now in its second season in secure airs sundays attempt thirty pm on h.b.o. now this was digital genesis this was a webpage show so i created a web so called the myth of inches of awkward black girl. two thousand and eleven

and this show was sort of inspired by and secure was inspired by that web series but it's a more version that's a bit more grounded and closer to my life what were you doing before you created the world should work and working several jobs working actors no i wish i could get a job as an actress i was working. at a museum i was working in a nonprofit world so how did you get the idea to do web show what i came up with that idea and colleagues you know my most successful web series was my third web series and i created my very first one when i was just a board procrastinating senior in college and wanted to figure out a way to justify using facebook and you tube of the time and was like yeah i can create like a soap opera basically about what it's like to be black at stanford and it was while i was simultaneously trying to break into the industry just tradition traditionally by writing spec scripts and pilot script and things like that and

then being told no your work doesn't really have an audience nobody's looking for that and then creating work online where i had an audience and people were like oh this is great and that first show my senior year of colleagues you know i always remember why i have direct access to an audience i should probably keep doing this and you know then five years later i came up with the awkward black girl series stanford equal to its reputation it was a great school with great people who were it suited to hear how the city was not the you didn't like the long term no that was very. very secluded. not at the time that i was there you know i'm a big food year there were just a lot of asian spots you know chinese food and i was like why can't you do more now it's amazing now the city that they need so how does this lead from a web show to h.b.o. there were a lot of steps in between there are a lot of failures and false starts but really just attention. honestly that you

know once my one time launch my first episode it did way better than my other two have series and you know the first time that i was in some things i was kind of intimidated and. we raise money you know i didn't have any money while i was producing it i just had a lot of help to bring a date i didn't bring it to called me actually you know i i had other opportunities and other networks and then h.b.o. said hey we like this series do you have any other ideas that are with the title. i gave of the title just because that's how i felt i was writing in my journal one day and had an epiphany moment and was like oh i'm awkward period and black and i had never seen those two words together before and i felt like they perfectly describe me and describe characters i wanted to see on television because you know i related to tina fey and larry david in all these you know the white characters that i shared a sense of humor that i felt like i had but i didn't see people so it is

autobiographical. would say without a biographical i would say that it's close to my life for sure you recently said quote we wanted to paint that this character's in between two worlds and is just in a constant state of discomfort she's not black enough for the black people not wide enough for the white people i felt like i just was constantly uncomfortable you know because i grew up in predominately white neighborhoods where white people be like you're not like other black people and i mean i will i'm black so what does that mean and then you know some black people just being like. be back or do better and i was always trying just struggling with what the definition of blackness is and i found myself limiting black males as opposed to realizing that blackness can be so many other things and i think that's what inspired me as of late just also very open about sexuality right i mean yeah to an extent a is other people sexuality more than my own. is your own dormant.

i wouldn't say that but i love that you know i just love talking about it i feel like conversation that was funny what's in store for the second. this second season explores sexuality whether dormant or active and it. just explores you know black women kind of in the workplace you know we tackle equal play this season and we tackle. what i call it the whole phase where you know women go through a period in some time the system life time of sexual liberation ducats the whole thing yeah with with my with apprentice many are seventy million at sixty is their executive producer and other people to get h.b.o. is a terrific place is nice a great place and there's just so much freedom there and they exactly does a really smart like they make smart suggestions and they also know when to get out

of the way of stuff they don't know about well as i said are you originally from here. oh yeah i grew up and went to hell but i live now you live here yeah porn raised from honestly it doesn't matter what i say can. go anywhere i see working which i misread also now. high school kids song stuff like we're going kids so how is it working to be honest. so have you been hit. i want to bring on board. how are you still saying. i guess is easier a the hit show was in secure water career you were going along oh it's a choice of words you were born in l.a. but spent years in senegal i did. all. very young i mean i was

probably four or five you know that when i went to kindergarten out there twice they had me back before i was a beautician yet he still it is supposed to be retired but he's not but yes he's the p.c. hero there he's here he has the clinic in inglewood senegal have a great effect on you. there's some there's a confidence about just knowing where you come from and knowing that you know my family is there was there i think that that influence just how i saw myself in the world you know i'm an african-american you know quite literally and that my mom is from louisiana my dad is being in senegal where your race was the majority. that have an effect that different approach i mean looking back on it when i went back to visit in my you know high school and college years absolutely as a young girl i didn't quite see it that way just felt like the default and so. and i also didn't think about race as much as a younger girl but you know as an older woman yeah absolutely. again it contributes

to the confidence you feel in the comfort i feel around you know my own people mostly in the effect on your life of jerry seinfeld and larry david their sense of humor just in terms of making the mundane and the ordinary and the relatable extremely funny i just i love that i love and i tap into that in my own work with you know something my siblings and i in my family love to joke about are just our observations of people and they have their people and behave yourself though well and you know i just wanted to do that for what i observe you now black people in the workplace and. just other experiences that i've used there's such a thing as segregated you more white you move versus black you know i think that touches on just seinfeld was a very white you know and there are a lot of you know they were in new york and there are a lot of white people and i think her did

a better job at shows like friends and i think growing. seeing that. even in standup comedy special they're always like white people be like in black people be like and that was kind of that kind of represented what the sit com era was to me of just like even executives being like well we can't put black people in this because you know black people don't find this kind of stuff funny there is and there were just assumptions when we were all watching these you know black people watch the most television out of any group and so the idea that we couldn't be the leads in a thirty rock or and obviously that's created by tina fey but we can be the leads in friends because we're not relatable and we don't share the sense of humor i always found into the great malcolm x. and he really pointed things having said what's it like to not see yourself on television. i mean what's it like to live like i had the privilege of being able to see myself in the entire ninety's growing up to see

versions of myself and what i also saw was that taking away was that disappear i saw that disappear an alternative reflection of black women specifically shown on the screen where you know there were black women that i did not know that i did not necessarily recognize that were entertaining but weren't the people that i know and i and that's kind of what compelled me to to create who i knew you put a lot of people on the show and secure you have to because they have to be actually surround myself with competent people so that i also feel more insecure you know. we're all in security are we in this business you have to be a secret you can't you you have to pretend like you're not to a degree which may be. somewhere and the father once told me if he's not holding a script. for another movie use if he doesn't have a script an aerial he's panicked through oh that's one hundred percent real like i was just talking to a producer like i'm always thinking about what the next movie is no matter what you

know how great something is going right now you're always worrying about what's next. not many shows pushing a black woman as a star. in this era you to others say that again it's going to lead to more shows i think it already is i think shonda kind of started the wave with it with carrie and scandal and then you know you had executives saying scandal to hit let's just make more scandals have more black leads and then once those failed they were like well there has to be something else and i think there are more black create is and people of color creatives behind the scenes telling authentic stories and putting themselves as leaders or casting leads you think you must first do no no i was. you know i was inspired first sure. i don't think of myself as the first part of seinfeld and larry david a two of you are kind of heroes but you more doesn't isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you think about

you. i think i think i have a sense of humor first so i think you need it but i don't think of myself as the first anything. coming up. tom. vice who she trade places with for a day or some politics will be right that. the world. according to.

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interrupt their government access now is the time more than ever we need to question more. we're in this post truth world. words have to matter to the out educating people and giving them contacts instead of telling them what to make dialogue is far more valuable than debate. that police already has the start of in securing its second season he tweeted in twenty fifteen the trump does everything that's wrong about america in one person still feel that way again so you're not shocked by any of this i'm still sad i'm still devastated but. not surprised not the best person where do you think it's going. does anybody know i just have a constant question mark you know

a question mark of panic i'm not entirely sure i'm i'm optimistic that you know just the fact about you what i do. what could i be up to make you optimistic i think that we're all conned there were uniting to a degree against him. but it's just a matter of turning that unity into actionable and actionable plan and actionable steps and i just i'm more aware than i've ever been ok we are going to play a game called if you only knew just throw some questions at you you don't have to answer them that's course not a quote martin just don't be nervous ok who is your childhood celebrity crush. dark skinned michael exact thing. why they left him a control. guilty pleasure. there's a song called vanderpump rules that i watch i buy it and then the pump. here would be

a problem rule you call them vanderpump food and it applies to see good talent. i don't know ok who would you trade places with for a day who. she is fun or do something we should all be paying more attention to. that's president and. also luxury you can't live without. massages and best compliment you ever got. now that you have money you look great. strangers job you. have to have any strings never had a strange show. do you have a favorite vice. i love talking to people like via social media you stalk i cyber stalk people. because.

it's entertaining i've had know about them they don't know i don't have to ask many questions it's just it's very intimate when something you wish you were better at life funny is fan encounter. i was going to the bathroom and someone recognized me via my show and said hey broken and they were in the stall next door to me and i thought that those funny it was funny i think. best perk of being a celebrity. free stuff free food when i go to restaurants and they recognize this over me give me free food is there something you long believed to be true and realize wasn't. i mean i do believe in santa claus until i was like fourteen fourteen they did a really good job. you got arguments in school right i just thought that people

didn't know they were cynical i felt sorry for them do you have a boyfriend not answering that. no i don't know not answering it. because this is you said i didn't have to carry the message is this some dry and great secret no is this man anybody's business. ok fine you don't have to tell me i don't care i read about it in the enquirer anyway. we have a couple social media questions for you be new round ass where did you find the strength to be so honest with you art you seem to be so steadfastly yourself and it's refreshing thank you there come from. the necessities just filling my guy who wanted to put what i wanted to see out there you know i was complaining a lot about what i was seeing and you know an internet commenter when i had a blog was just like you talk a lot of math you know why don't you do something and i think that author empowered

me to be like yes and then the validation of people responding to the work only adds to the confidence so you always kind of a stand up person. stand up and without speaking your mind oh no i've been passive aggressive and i think within a certain group of people but i think i've had to come in to openly speaking my mind i'm very reserved in siding for the most touchy will love is there anything that you want to bring from misadventure is a war good black girl too to insecure. yes won't work out. of the more cast members i think we've had like cast members sprinkled in season one in season two but you know in a perfect world they all make up somehow some way and you good boss. i think so i think so and zone very hands on i have to be but i'm also very

collaborative same time yeah good alex jones and we're co-creator larry wilmore ever guest star on insecurity we've talked about it we just have to find the perfect role like jamie he's busy tell ask why can't you ask him. when you see him a lot i'm sure i'm going to see him tonight ask him. yeah you're right tell him i asked him ok we'll do weird black girl is the name i heard you say you were talking about me. couldn't fly i heard you say insecurity can't go on forever so what's next. that's the question i mean i want to do cellmates i want to i want to what do you want to do i want to make films i want to produce i want to do stuff outside of the entertainment industry that i want to just take to meeting him isa rate in ten years that's hard come on all you want to make movies and do i want to

i want i want to i want to have a studio. only assume. you'll make it thank you good to see the new right you'll make it. ok i understand that you sing your song on insecure call broken yeah i don't think i've ever said. it and i don't know how you break it but i mean explain it to me. it's really something that one of my best friends and i just in a conversation came up with she was trying to just figure out like what was wrong i why i couldn't she keep a guy and you know what was it about her bag kind of shiny guys and that repelled guys and i thought girl you might not think it might be broken and we just found that larry is and then started talking in our voice in our vaginas the voices are talking in vagina voices basically and. the vagina was singing the rap song nama so in our lives yeah i mean mike we had badges no voices what i had what

i'd call it where i want to move was so for example we were like oh oh you know that guy was second for me and when he came over i was like it was like i don't think you. and so we just go back and forth and you know the guy was attractive with like on like you know and that's what i have examined it. and your other friends did this with just me and her. to write raps in real life. under the influence of alcohol you. have you recorded i have with my friends you have a brother not so no not public some of them a kind of public. nothing serious that would say do you think you could be a rap singer no no i don't think i have the time i think donald glover ruin it for everybody. what's the work life like each week on insecurity it's a lot of hours but you know it's it's fine you know i'm working with

a lot of people that i love and respect and admire and it's just really a lot of. a lot it's a it's a labor of love do you gather is there a certain what day do you get together and how does it work when you reach scripts well we have a writer's room pretty much six to seven months out of the year and so i'm in that with them basically outlining this so and then we shoot this last this past season we shot for three months. monday through friday and simultaneously edited and now i'm literally editing the last episode as we speak were all around the world around l.a. yeah around south l.a. because that's where the show is centered which is where i grew up and just wanted to highlight a and a part of l.a. that hasn't been gotten a lot of sign in the past this is city cooperate it was been great yeah they're very excited you know city officials have approached and then of course the city of

l.a. it's just nice to have people coming here so used to us thank you so much continued good luck thank you so much the stakes are really i guess this isn't the first step to the season of insecurity airs sundays at ten thirty pm on h.b.o. as always you can find it on twitter kings things i'll see you next time.

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