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billions of dollars of sales profits so the whole game is just slow down. in the documents on dr preston martin other even more machiavellian scenarios were studied. here it was suggested that talks be held with the scientist. and hear a proposed seminar in order to lure her. the aim to influence her and even shape the conclusions of her future studies. the common point of these documents they all come from the same lobbying firm multinational business services. already hired by philip morris to contest the effects of passive smoking on health and headed by a certain jim toth see a master of influence.
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amazingly in washington the heart of american power this lobbyist is still well established. as he never answered our requests for an interview we went to see him without an appointment with our documents in hand and a hidden camera. into the us he works here who are you is the difference in journalist i'm looking for. and i'm looking on the nub. of the new point means no new i was just in for him because i called from france but if you visit incentives these days this is the good news american lobbyists can be welcoming. we even managed to have jim talk to you on his cell phone here here coming here please. jim can you hear
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me. i want to ask you some questions susan system not to. work. because you have this set up a strategy to discredit to work for us come here so i wanted to know more about this. well. i don't know if you're just talking about. me and i know if you do your work in congress i'm going to ask you i can say no i'm going to have to as you believe. understand you if you like the welcoming lobbyist you love the angry why i'm asking you to have no point inductees leave now join each night leave you could lose your yes please please i am motoring you out can't
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just leave now that it's out. of here ok do you understand that you have a tough life. here and you cannot go back. to do you have to end like that. in the end mr trott's he did a great job well at least for the industrialist. back then and he pressed a martin arguments were brought into the media spotlight. by this health journalist on a major national t.v. channel a few days after the publication of the famous study. let's get back to our hot dog study remember they asked the people did you eat a hot dog they didn't ask them did you put it in a bun did you put ketchup on it did you put mustard on and. you might be saying who really cares one way or the other but that's important because it may be that it's
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not the hot dog at all that's causing this increased risk of cancer or maybe it's the bun maybe it's the ketchup maybe it's the mustard so you have to be careful when you read these studies not to say oh this causes this. the powers that be didn't go any farther than one nine hundred seventy s. nitrites file which could have resurfaced remains locked away. you're probably wondering what susan president thinks the woman targeted by the lobby. we showed her the documents and what upset her the most was seeing that fellow scientists had played along with the industrialists. these professors will get paid a huge amount to do review by in this case probably the american media institute i mean thousands and thousands of dollars they probably get more from doing this kind of thing than they do from their regular jobs. seeing your name like this in all. my goodness a i gave a lot of people
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a lot of work. were you aware of this well i was aware that the processed meat community was concerned but not aware of all the extent of this. twenty years on and she had turned the page. not of interest anymore that's how. the public awareness of science goes it's of interest in that it's not of interest seen in all that work but today but it doesn't it doesn't matter i mean it still in the literature and. in may includes people in future and it has influence people in the past and that's fine. but another scientist involved in the case has enjoyed a much more flourishing career. a scientist paid by the american meat institute to
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shoot down susan preston martin's work. david clear fell. today david gergen is head of the u.s. government's nutrition program and he's invited all over the world for a scientific conferences where he gives his experts point of view. totally independent. this week to. introduce reasons why the need is in order to be healthy diet has been just. on that day he was in front speaking to scientists from around the world about meat and the link between processed meat and cancer in order to denounce backed up by a power point the climate of fear panic and even hysteria. and we know because we were there. it was right at the start of our investigation when we barely knew about nitrites and had the need of enlightened specialists to help us. and.
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so there are new reviews published this year that say nitrite is not harmful and others that say it is harmful. i don't think anybody really knows. definitively what but the answer is. a few months after this handshake when we have learned more about the industry of doubt. bells started ringing. so we took advantage of our trip to america to ask him for another interview. only this time with a lot more cards up our sleeve. do you remember. american meat institute no never no i was interested in the scientists was interesting martin yes do you know her i know who she is i do not
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know her personally i do remember reading a paper on her desk for the american meat institute found this and it was prepared for the american newton says fruit. ok there. this is something different yes. this was done twenty years ago roughly so. i had forgotten about that do you remember how much you were paid for this evaluation though i do not as i said it was twenty or twenty five years ago you didn't know when you were working for the american to do this or that philip morris was opening there. i'm not going to say yes or no at this point in time because it's more than twenty years ago did you know that the tobacco strategy motto was doubt is our product no i never heard that no no don't trust your productive to. that was not
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mine and that was not my intent my intent was to do an evaluation. if i had read these papers and found that there were not shortcomings in the papers that they would not deficiencies in the papers i don't think i would have criticized them but don't you think that your point of view would be stronger than your arguments stronger if i hadn't found that you had been won by the american meat institute. no i don't i don't think that. would change it wouldn't change my point of view it might change your point of view that you tend to not believe what i'm saying because twenty five years ago i got some amount of money that i don't remember are. for making progress he can't remember how much but he does remember getting paid. but you have to understand that the industry is
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a money making business so they're very risk averse they would not fund a study that. someone proposed to them that eating hot dogs increases the risk of childhood cancer why would they fund that you know they would only fund something that says proposes that childhood cancer is prevented by eating more hotdogs or there's no relationship you know they're not going to fund a study that. is bad for their business. well at least he's honest much of the meat industry is lobbying depends on collaboration with paid scientists and that's still how things work. during a conference on processed meats and cancer. of french scientists confirmed that. there is no reference on the subject internationally renowned expert. he speaks and
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acts casually and doesn't block it telling us how things work at scientific events . it is just because you don't know supercede mr teach me. it's a. good point. it's a deep hole just comes to me. because if you soon does it will fit because if you all just get into a more fit if you did so i mean. you should. meet. me at the. fifty fifty split. this. is going to be about what you did was a mystery she didn't put on the. make
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this manufacture consent to. public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the financial merry go round the sun be the one percent. time making the middle of the room sit. around the real news room. the current situation is that there's concerns on the part of the four arab countries egypt saudi arabia emirates. as relates to policies of cut up about have to be addressed to have had a very adverse impact on national security in the case of material evidence exists in the face of policies that have adversely impacted has created and has caused
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a loss of life in egypt this is an intolerable situation. and book a clinical place call it a police a key to keep. the let's say i. was just by. it in your heart it was ok to commit they're going to write. a song called involved with such and you don't know pointed out to myself i don't know why he said i feel we should i should think almost like yourself thank you
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when he. was. a few days later professor corp a sent us some emails and photos of scientists he suspects of being close to the food industry. to americans he came across at a conference on meat and cancer. and nathan bryant. as we checked out these scientists profiles we discovered a document which should certainly never have been on the web. internal report issued by the american meat institute. it lays out the strategy for influencing the decisions of high profile organizations.
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this organization is the i r c international agency for research on cancer. this institution based in the front is the worldwide reference on cancer. in two thousand and six i see scientists classified nitrites in the probably carcinogenic category of products group too. and that was bad for business. so lobbyists are fighting to have this classification changed. page sixty four of a document. changing the r.c. nitrate nitrate classification from two to be. possibly carcinogenic.
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the strategy has been a i challenge. it notably involves the two scientists we were interested in andrew wilkow sweet and nice and bright. armed with our brand new file it was time to set off to meet the meat sectors heavyweights. welcome to nashville tennessee the capital of country music and notably the hometown of johnny cash. it's here that the american meat institute is holding its annual conference. in this huge building to be precise. the meat industry in the u.s. is very very big business. all of the world's biggest players are here. smithfield number one imports with a turnover of fourteen billion dollars
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a year cargo the giant with thirty three billion dollars a year in crude alone. and tyson keep all divisions record holder this year will mate with all of our divisions between or poultry and prepared between that thirty seven billion and forty billion dollars in revenue so it's a snowball maybe very small company. and. we checked it's over forty one billion dollars. after half an hour we spot a face in the crowd that rings a bell. that will and they're testing nibbles at every stand. that's right page ninety two of the i.r.c. challenge document here with the short hair the american meat institute senior vice president of public affairs janet riley. is just
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she's thirty i'm lieutenant trying to tell i'm something i'm looking for is posted on to say ten ten certainly question about seduction type found. it's is this document it to you know it i'm sorry. i wanted to supposed to. poke it and i didn't see you registered no no actually it wasn't just so but i have some important question that you keep your business yes of course i have mine step journalist caught just a question but i want you to know what do you know about the eon challenge you know might be octet into your camera and silly know what i'm doing that it's a book not touch and chances think you know this is my study and i want to know who came so much for our interview not me why you disagree with you why you are to. having been escorted outside. this is my press conference ok i've been ordered to show id we try one last time it's close do. what tobacco industry did for
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t.k. that's sure that's your opinion what we're doing is providing science based here if he does this that our products are safe and it's the same rate here but are you paying those scientists know you've got a camera will we know you. look away for such cases we always have a plan b. on the list of i.r.c. challenge scientists there was one who agreed to see us the first on the list. andrew. we had to madison wisconsin. the city in the north of the united states is home to andrew housekeeper and the company of hot dog king oscar meyer who we came across in the preston martin case
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americans and. the scientist worked for this company for thirty years. you know to. he's at the university. but he doesn't hide his proximity to the american meat body. presented with our i.r.c. challenge documents he acknowledges everything or almost. everything so did the meat industry paid you for this i received some compensation for my time as well as the others how much. i'm not going to say i don't know thousands tens of thousands of dollars. small amounts can we have an idea. and it's running not right seems to be a very big thing for industry looking for
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a substitute. has been attempted. and was a tall sally. something as chemically simple as nitrite. and as unique as nitrate having a substitute has not been possible to anyone's ability but if there is more risk of getting cancer don't you think it's important to try to find a solution. now as we're going to disagree because i do not believe that that risk is is true you think there is no risk at all i think the risk is. if it is indeed. on hearing that we pulled this expression. so for andrew wilkow ski the colorectal cancer the hundreds of studies on the dangers of nitrites none of it exists off you go nothing to do with it.
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in the united states it's thanks to scientists like milk that the meat industry has been able to cut another notch in its belt. surprisingly in the health conscious state of california. this imposing building is home to the state cabinet level california environmental protection agency. we have an appointment with sam dell sent deputy director for external and legislative affairs. to show us a document that doesn't exist in any other american state with a shell or not i am. told me. so this is the lists yes it's a list of substances judged dangerous to man by the state of california. to do
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business here manufacturers are banned from using the substances or they are obliged to warn consumers and it's very restrictive because there are over eight hundred products on the list so good example that would be in the tobacco smoke entirely and there's other things like as benzene that would be something you know we have come in things like exhaust and then here we have ants been on the news as aspirin you know it's a special note especially for pregnant women oh here's kind of an odd one but you know these are a breath and you know if you want to eat this go for it but be aware that you maybe don't want to eat it every single day so you don't find ninety. i tried is not on the list. it's been here since nitrites has been targeted but procedures have never been seen through when we believe the chemical meets the criteria for listing we post what's known as a notice of intent to list and that triggers
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a period in which people can submit public comments on whether it does or does not meet the criteria we review the comments before making a final decision to complete. the nitrites here are the comments that swung the scale of the seven contributions six come from food industry lobbyist. and with thirty one pages the winner is. andrew. before the interview we show. our documents on the. challenge. faced with an avalanche of proof gathered during months of investigation he ends up taking out his cell phone to take photos. however in answering our questions he seems less inspired. we.
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it's their business if they think that they can. influence a decision beyond the science but we let the science do the talking do you think it might happen that some times you are many predicted by the industry we. do our best. to make decisions based soley on the science regardless of whatever. pressure or words and said persuasion may be made by a any outside group ok. california will resemble the dangers of nitrites but not before next year. for the lobby it's a mini victory time gained and profits not lost. in europe a new study on nitrite was expected in december two thousand and fifteen almost
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never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each other. but then my feeling started to change you talked about war like it was again still some more fun to feel those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with this one different speeches because there are no other takers. that mainstream media has met its maker. duck duck duck out.
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