greetings and sal you take. this week well the united states government convulses in the horror of having to react to another crisis of whether there are a few other or horror shows that have conveniently ducked under the radar of the news cycles let's start with the recent revelation that according to a bread court judge. the democratic national committee and former d.n.c. chair your friend and mine debbie wassermann schultz bid indeed hold

a bias and work to endorse hillary clinton at the expense of bernie sanders and his supporters despite dismissing the class action lawsuit brought by burning supporters seeking redress for lost campaign donations federal court judge williams lock in his court order states in a value weighting plaintiff's claims at this stage the court assumes their allegations are true that the d.n.c. and wasserman schultz held a palpable bias in favor of clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her democratic opponent but while the d.n.c. primary rigging got off with really nothing more than a vigorous scolding by the judge attorney general jeff sessions and president donald trump decided that a militarized police force is a good police force speaking out the perturbed order of police police convention in nashville tennessee attorney general sessions exclaimed we will not put superficial concerns above public safety the executive board of the president will sign today

will ensure that you can get the lifesaving gear that you need to do your job and send a strong message that we will not allow criminal activity by a once and lawlessness to become the new normal jeff sessions and person nation yes because as we all know armored personnel. carriers and those lifesaving grenade launchers and bayonets are perfect perfect for combating all that criminal activity and lawlessness limits what happens when citizens practice their constitutionally protected rights of freedom of speech and assembly how lawless of them so the d.n.c. gets to keep on shooting a law enforcement gets back to you know gets back their equipment beating on people looks like it yeah it looks like it's time for us to start watching the hawks. as the bottom. like you know i got.

this. week so. well corona watching the harks i am tyrol voted for and. so the big c. will slap on the wrist meanwhile hey let's put some more military gear back in the hands of the polies because they do so well with it they do they really do they love it really. right and you know what your show me earlier today illegal districts had they been great. police and there's a police department that just takes care of the l.a. school district but they gave them. a test for high school get before we get in the grenade launchers for high school kids because we all know that police guarding high school kids in l.a. apparently need grenade blowing right and obviously. law and order yes speaking of

law or a lack thereof federal judge williams lock dismissed the lawsuit the class action lawsuit that was brought against the b m c our good friend debbie. stating in a judicial order the. even assuming that the allegations are true which he's basically saying you got assume the allegations are true that they did do this it's impossible he's saying the judge is saying it's impossible to test any fraud claims against the d.n.c. in federal courts basically telling these people that like look whether this actually happened or not it's not up to the courts to decide whether this was right this is up for you because the d.n.c. is technically a private organization to figure that out now the mc does get public money and so there is kind of a gray area there whether they're public or private this point but that is up for the authors of the b. and c. democrats to solve themselves it's a private organization but you know a lot of private companies i mean corporations get tax breaks technically public

funds are through but they're not a government agency about why this whole act of war if then so many was an act of war you know and we should have done all this if that's all we're going to say and i don't care that it's a political party that or a private organization that's private citizens coming together getting now. these private citizens got together and decided to steal the election for what i did i saw a lot of the action that i think is a whole politics i'm sure the republicans have done and the same thing which is deflect from anything that's going on and make sure nobody one side anybody but the ones that isn't there a little idea the judge did kind of wave a smart a little bit. yeah so lawyers for the d.n.c. as you said had argued this whole thing was they weren't bound by a law to create fair elections even though like we had during that they said well you know we could be in backrooms just decided with a bunch of people smoking and decide we don't have to even have primaries which is a whole very strange thing that's what angered and upset

a lot of the progressive base so the judge kind of said this whole thing about that the argument that the d.n.c. lawyers made about impersonality and even handedness are nothing more than political rhetoric not enforceable in federal courts what he wrote was quote the court does not accept this trivialization of the d.n.c. as governing principles the d.n.c. through its charter has committed itself to a higher principle and quote i had to say the judge has to remind the democrats what they stand for they have to themselves up to hold themselves to our principle what they say they don't have to the democrats say they don't care how beautiful all old voted for these two parties it's absolutely ridiculous the idea that there is no problem i think that's all it is it's there's democratic principles are a wonderful thing as are certain republican principles the problem is nobody's following them anymore and even to judge that you know this judge is like no you know what you know there's a wonderful thing a militarized police. the american civil liberties union agrees with. that through

the media we have an epidemic in the united states of police using excessive force particularly against people of color with this reason and that's mounting at the part of the logic to arm the police with weapons of war so well with the democrats on one side basically said. well actions are kind of we don't care we can be as we want and the republicans and from the other side saying the police. what are there . in an effort to clean up our waterways and cut down on fossil fuels over the last decade governments around the world have started implementing various forms of taxes and bans on those thin plastic bags some of gently nudge consumers in the right direction by incentivizing reusable bags while others have taken a stricter approach implementing punitive taxes are banning and plastic outright no country however has taken an approach to chromium as kenya where after three attempts the government has finally succeeded in banning plastic bags because they're punishable by

a fine of up to forty thousand dollars and four years in prison seriously and not only does the law target stores and businesses police will have the power to arrest anyone spotted carrying a plastic bag on the street so the question of how tough is too tough in the war on the ultrathin controversial plastic shopping bag wow what a lesson i never i never knew. it was good for the environment you know when he was plastered but i didn't realize it was this heavy oh yeah there's no important. measure going to you know whole foods or trader joes with a plastic bag of sugar water orders but instead of just the passive aggressive condescension you get from the person that they can't even bring around bags you. know it's going to be like you don't bring your own bags. police or your borders and forty graham pearman over what's interesting is you're in the u.s. like in most places around the world we get let off easy we you know we'd like to

you know complain all the. taxes you know the taxes we put in to try to get people to stop using force that will work but if you go to a place like ireland thirty seven point is a great hong kong fifty actually there's a city in texas. the charges as much as a dollar every time you use this plus the. many many many countries especially africa ones of actually complete ban is completely you cannot use them whatsoever. for using them but i don't think anyone's really have this every year but for your final throes of the present for using pasta you know that serious one of the. thing is. it's there's a good side the down side of this that helps the environment obviously we should be using these petroleum products in general that's fine but there is a little bit of an issue that hasn't really been thought through is that kenya about three percent of their population actually is employed in the plastic bag

industry which is a tough thing when you're actually having all these manufacturers and people are getting jobs from it. so that's going to be a number a target that you know and you're talking about tens of thousands of workers that are i mean if the back if the ban works that's great but what could end up happening is that you have kenyans who are living on two dollars a day. one more or less but two dollars a day getting forty thousand dollar fines this is a great it's going to disproportionately hurt poor people a lot more than it's going to hurt the people at the top obviously we always see that across the board and i think that's also an interesting microcosm of the we have to stop using certain products we are using you know these plastic boiled radical animals or microbial thing and yeah you know we've got to stop using things but at the same time that we stop using these things and get you know humanity off the addiction to the pigs the damage ourselves on the our image around us we also

have to start looking at what are we going to do to put in place to make up for the loss of job when you say ok over three percent of population can you works in the bad plastic bag making you history. you've got to come up with something but those people to do otherwise like you said just that and those are out of a job because you also have. business owners who have put a lot of money into this and if african country after african countries starts doing this bostic bag bans and they may that's a huge part of a business in kenya and other places there those those business owners are going to be in a large amount of people are going to need help and there needs to be some sort of structure and that is that's where that next stop is you can break a window you can get out to say pass a law but then you have to have that process of what do you want to get rid of the bad thing yeah exactly and i think we i think will see that i think we're going to see the resource resourcefulness step up people's you know humanities resource gas question operator step up and say now we have a better idea because we're going to do and i get all right as we go to break card

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sooner we don't. have the world. you'll get it on the old the old. the old according to. the world. in response to the great mississippi river flood of one nine hundred twenty seven that displaced over six hundred thousand two hundred thousand of whom were poor minorities american poet robert lee frost wrote blood has been harder to dam back than water just when we think we have it impounded safe behind new barrier walls

and lead it breaks away and some new kind of slaughter following the one nine hundred twenty seven flood than president herbert hoover did little to help the african-americans sparking the migration north to more industrialized cities led many blacks to leave the republican party and change the face of politics for a century this week's natural disaster in texas especially the houston area is a result not just of bad luck and increasingly violent storms but a political failing both to the residents of texas and to the land itself so what happened well part of the problem can be traced back to excessive unregulated housing development in wetland areas nearly six point five million people currently reside in the houston woodlands sugarland area that makes up the metropolitan area including and surrounding the city of houston up from around four million people just twenty years ago more people coming to houston to pursue jobs in the booming energy health care and aerospace and biomedical fields meant the need for more

housing and construction workers who would also need housing despite federal regulations governing need destruction of wetlands or saturated lands made up of marshes or swamps he used it has seen over fifty thousand acres of wetlands destroyed or paved over in the last twenty years houston's fort bend county you saw fifty three percent increase in impervious surfaces like asphalt and concrete between two thousand and one and two thousand and eleven during the same time period harris county saw a twenty six percent and crease and the k.t. prairie area. saw a seventeen percent increase of course houston needed homes no one can deny that but where and how those homes were built and the infrastructure around it has put the entire houston area and its two decade economic boom in serious jeopardy so weapons aren't just smelly places where mosquitoes live they play an incredibly important role in the abatement of flood waters and i probably ask yourself how does wetlands help in a flood well wetlands act as natural sponges that hold and slowly disperse things

like rain snow melt ground water and most importantly flood waters according to the university of maryland center for environmental science natural ground cover like wetlands creates just ten percent runoff with the rest being absorbed in the air or ground into the water table but with impervious ground cover like concrete you get over fifty percent run off with only fifteen percent absorbing into the groundwater tables this means that the very flat city of houston is covered in asphalt and concrete to such an extent that when heavy rains and storms come which are more frequent there just isn't anywhere for the water to go so it sits destroying homes and lives regulation should have done its job but as with most environmental regulations no one is overseeing the implementation or administering punishment to those who break these regulations and a lot of people are breaking those regulations in ninety nine it became federal policy that there would be no net loss to wait in the united states that means that

if developers want to pave over a marsh they have to get a special permit and they must create mitigation for the last two years ago the houston chronicle found that over half of the permit records they reviewed showed little to no evidence of compliance with federal mandates compliance could be as little as just creating retention ponds they also found that since one thousand ninety the army corps of engineers has issued over seven thousand permits to destroy wetlands in the houston area and they are in no position. due to budget local politics to change that right before retiring after eighteen years having houston's harris county flood control to historic mike tell them told pro publica last fall that his office had no plans to study the effects of climate change that he doesn't believe in the scientific evidence that tros that development is making flooding worse and asserts that the idea that these magical sponges out in the prairie would have absorbed all that water is absurd here's the thing those

retention ponds gutters and sewers are designed based on the science and natural activities of those magical sponges we call wetlands and well houston hire the floods are last year that guy hasn't got the budget or any staff says appointment in eight in addition republicans in congress are laser focused on removing any even more environmental regulations to building a housing development hundred democrats more interested in clutching to conspiracy theories than protecting lives of the environment it doesn't seem like washington swamp will be very useful and bringing back the swamps we need. most definitely true. to the brilliant brilliant breakdown that you gave of what's going on in houston by also saying that the u.s.d.a. and natural resources conservation service did an inventory back in nineteen ninety two regarding wetlands being converted to other uses and but on the between eighty two and ninety ninety two around seven percent of us wetlands had already been

converted into development that's incredible in. my father's political career i want to get personal my father of political career was based on trying to save a wetland in the neighborhood that i grew up with him when he ran for mayor of brooklyn park back in the only one nine hundred ninety s. he was doing it because the city wanted to put him storm curb and gutters and storm sewers and basically pave everything over one we already had ditches in a well i'm going to act as a natural system you have water to go and heavy storms this is a problem but we've been oring and now it's coming full circle around to buy this in the but it's terrible terrible and there's very and this is the thing that it's not just about the flooding it's you know we can we can do a lot of things to mitigate and we can do a lot of things to help people in these these kinds of disasters and whether it's climate change or not it doesn't really matter there's this is what this is what matters is what happened in houston and the fact is it's story after story every

year in the houston chronicle and all these papers saying this is a problem this is a problem we've been told her kid for twenty years save the well and save the outlands why because it keeps your house from flood it's very simple and the other problem that arises that only fifteen percent it's estimated of people who live in houston of houston homeowners have flood insurance and flood insurance comes out of this federal program that sadly that underwrites most things the national flood insurance program the problem with that program is it's completely out of date with this flood plain information also it's heavily adat. government program that allegedly surprise surprise so it could collapse. but the problem is that it doesn't. doesn't have enough money because they need more studies to update the information on flood plain that's a problem the new administration is saying they want to cut one hundred ninety million dollars from that program and the one hundred ninety million dollars is exactly what the cost to update the information on flood plains it's true it is

going in circles because of politics while people's homes are destroyed is truly despicable of what is going to go back to one of our issues that we talk about here all the time watching the hawks is lack of infrastructure and lack of caring about infrastructure and wanting to spend money on infrastructure going to update infrastructure which i will tell it to everyone here in the u.s. and everyone around the world infrastructure is going to be about the only thing that can help at least delay the apax of climate change whether you believe it's manmade or not but there are going all around us and houston is a good example wetlands were destroyed not replaced adequately here's the major problem you've got now of course there's other mitigating factors true it can be argued but not having a place for the water to go is a pretty big was telling mother nature you can do it better not a great idea. well are good for goldman sachs and found themselves back in the headlines once again this time for conveniently getting a free pass from the trumpet ministrations new round of sanctions against the

beleaguered nation about his way alone and their president nicolas maduro so goldman sachs going to parties of its newfound exempt status goldman the trials and tribulations for the citizens of israel are being exacerbated by the united states to sanction happy mentally our own sean stone recently sat down with journalist and author pepe escobar and discussed the state of affairs in venezuela and what the future holds for the poor south american country. how do you perceive this conflict going on currently because there's a lot of perspectives as far as the fact that the door of the president trying to essentially recreate the constitution creating the super congress that's basically giving him more power do you see. this as a potentially good thing for the country ultimately leading to more chaos and dissension in what could ultimately lead to a civil war shaun of it is well it's extremely complicated i wish we had less like a day to talk about it but. ok the basic scenario.

they called for some seeing that is allowed by the constitution the nine hundred ninety nine constitution that was discussed in approved. charges at the beginning of the church the first job as government in only four months the you know they congregated people they started discussion they made a modifications there was a referendum on the constitution was approved was a very fast process because even as well and wanted a new constitution i thought that there is a previous or yes you can call for a national a constituent assembly to discuss possible amendments to the constitution. call just the latest election for exactly that the problem is the opposition boy caught this from the beginning and boycotted not really as you read it in american corporate media or european corporate media there were

very violent protests if you go to reliable web sites if you go to fin is well analysis in english which is a very very good website that it is also critical of many aspects of the government you have the whole numbers are there proving once again that it was not unilateral riskily its own people what this was was a rehearsal sue prepare western public opinion for something that might happen and what might happen once again is regime change don't forget the venezuela is on their. zero that the whole thing was other cent com but the difference is even if it is well as in sol sco. colombe has a partnership with neat and that dies with nato antics in this so-called arc of instability the pentagon arc of instability this means

that need to. close partnership they are gaming scenarios for regime change even as well this is has been going on for quite a while delete the wargame was in effect a month. one of those stupid names they come up with military resolve military guardian or something like that and there were a gaming with the colombian forces and they were gaming the usual more do you know special forces dropped across the border from cologne going to venezuela they steer up a lot of trouble there really put then surely a response heavy response by the government the next day we see headlines all over the world but during skilling it's own people and then we have bashar al assad all over again so you know it's not very creative but it's always the same modus operandi so this has been this is. in the books mike but.

yeah a few days ago he said yes we can even about regime change possibilities so it you know nazi has it and when you see this from a latin american point of view people in latin america you know even a zoo in argentina where everybody. in america. you know exactly what it's what could happen and there is no south america right america unity at the moment to prevent the possibility of regime change even as well. the noble cassini's. may be approaching its final days before its twenty year old mission is over a boy is a given all he can before it's having orbiting saturn for the past thirteen years cassini has been transmitting groundbreaking images and data giving space scientists an unparalleled glimpse into the distant planets environment earlier this year cassini made headlines when i helped discover that saturn's moon and the

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of the not. a former cia operative launches a fund raising campaign aimed at getting donald trump kicked off twitter and she's here to talk about it that replaying on this edition of. your politicking on larry king valerie plame wilson is a former cia operative whose covert status was blown when members of the george w. bush administration who were motivated by political retaliation against her husband leaked her classified identity to the press that was back in two thousand and three since then she's become a bestselling author of several books including the memoir fair game my life as a spy in my betrayal by the white house and spy novels blowback and burned she's

also become an activist for nuclear weapons free world her latest project is a crowdfunding campaign designed to buy a major stake in twitter and then using that position to pressure the company to kick president donald trump off the social media platform. she says that this is the trump has within the eyes twitter she worries that his tweets could play a part in leading the world into a nuclear war it's dog to her about that valerie plame wilson joins me from son of the new mexico tell me about this campaign and how did the idea come about hi larry thank you for having me the idea came about when his tweets just became increasingly reckless impulsive and of course from my previous life with the cia

what i focused on was nuclear chemical if ration so this is a passion of mine something i care about deeply and i'm working with global zero we set up this go fund me site the idea being to buy majority stake in twitter and have the twitter executives in force their own rules which explicitly prohibit hate speech or inciting violence and particularly with north korea i would say he's making a bad situation worse and that's what we're hoping to do and. we're already off to a great start how do people get involved how do people send you fun as. they go to the go fund me site and it's the by twitter one and then they just walk through it i want to make absolutely clear to your viewers that i am not benefiting financially at all from this if we do not reach our goal admittedly

a billion dollars is very ambitious all that money will go to global zero which is leading the resistance against nuclear war and hopefully moving us toward a world without nuclear weapons poke a you say the term students are dangerous dangerous hall. they make a bad situation that much worse as we know the leader of north korea kim jong un is . not stable and to have this escalating twitter war between president trump and the. un of north korea it i don't want to see a stumble into a conflict that could go nuclear it would be truly catastrophic public opinion so

a majority of americans are critical of trump's use of twitter tom says that his use of it is modern day presidential going right to the public what's wrong with that. well i don't agree with modern day i'm not sure it's presidential i find many of his tweets personally to be offensive. and he has managed to offend many in his own party women private individuals people with jewish backgrounds people of color but that's what not what we're focusing on we're focusing on the most dangerous of all of them to my mind which is existential which is potential nuclear catastrophe the thing is no matter what you care about whether you think every single confederate statue should remain in the public square or you want obamacare care repealed and replaced whatever it is gun

control doesn't matter if you don't get the nuclear question right none of the other ones matter that ari you are a veteran of the cia you know world people you know it's political figures and public figures what sane person would start a nuclear war. hopefully no one the the fact is we're no longer in a bipolar world we no longer have the soviet union on one side the united states on the other for many years for decades what kept nuclear war from happening was the mad doctrine mutually assured destruction you were to your point exactly they figured no one's going to be insane enough to start a nuclear war because we will be annihilated moments later but with the politicization of new nuclear weapons and of course terrorists seeking nuclear

capability all bets are off we have come close dozens of times in accidental nuclear incidents i think we've just gotten lucky thus far. the time has come where nuclear weapons are no longer keeping us safe that that old paradigm of mad no longer applies and that's what global zero i'm also on the board of the ploughshares fund that's what we're trying to do ratchet back. our nuclear arsenal across the board not unilaterally this is not something that's going to happen on tuesday but it can happen over time these weapons have to become absolutely taboo because the destruction we are little human minds can't even begin to understand what they would do in an email statement to the l.a. times white house press secretary sarah hughley sanders called your campaign and

the temp to shut down the president's first amendment rights and an expression of hate and intolerance how you react. i respectfully disagree with this sarah huckabee sanders along with sarah other republican operatives like roger stone have said the same thing again this has nothing to do with the first amendment the first amendment protects people from their government and not all speech is protected when you are ratcheting up in an already very dicey incendiary potentially incendiary situation. i think twitter has an obligation to step in and say to president trump what you need to be abide by the same rules as everybody else you know inciting violence and no hate speech. we do agree that every that you're gambling. with

a lot of tory. is a long shot i would agree it's a long shot a billion dollars is a whole bunch of money i totally get that the idea is to shine a spotlight on how dangerous donald trump's tweets are and it undermines our national security. thanks to people like you we've gotten a lot of attention and i do hope people are thinking. you know maybe it doesn't have to be like this i want people to fear or feel that they can actually do something they don't just have to sit by while we are moving ever closer toward a nuclear catastrophe what scares you more trouble on twitter. or trouble having the new clue codes. i would say the

latter and here's why the way this is a volved since the first time the first atomic bomb was exploded not too far from where i'm sitting in the new mexico desert. it is a volved to the point where we have given one individual and one individual alone this awesome destructive power i think many americans believe that the supreme court has to weigh in or the secretary of defense or congress that is not the case at all it is one human being and i would add that if the president is warned that we are potentially under nuclear attack the president has between eight and ten minutes to decide how to respond we have all seen these so-called nuclear football the nuclear foot briefcase the person from one of the arms for services following the president around at all times. just in such an

emergency and it is time to rethink our policy on this we have many of our weapons on hair trigger alert we also have something called a first you know first use policy or was what we should move to meaning that we would not use nuclear weapons in the first instance we have now launch on warning which is a policy where we say if we believe that we're under attack that we will respond these are all policies that incredibly high in the tension and the potential for disaster in south come. how do you assess the current risk of nuclear conflict is this the heart as you've experienced or do you remember a period where was higher i think this is

probably the highest since the cuban missile crisis which we now know from historians how very close we came to nuclear conflict with the soviet union. north korea is essentially a cult masquerading as a state their number one. their number one priority is regime survival and they believe that they can do that by threatening their nukes threatening the united states with their nuclear weapons i totally agree with my friend and hero former secretary of defense william perry who says look we cannot rely upon china to do all the heavy lifting on this sanctions alone are not going to do it no military option is a good one. the only way ahead is serious direct talks including

of course with south korea china and japan secretary kerry was here last week he makes quite a case what do you make of that. is valueless what do you make of the those year. making headlines again who. yes and dave the m i six officer christopher steele. more more information comes out daily it's hard to absorb all of it and make sense of it what i would say is this as a former cia officer what i find really odd and very concerning is that in the period before donald trump was even a candidate much less elected there was an incredible amount of. cooperation conversations contacts with russian officials i find that really odd you would think that a presidential candidate would be busy thinking about how what pre-sentencing needs

to bring up to where any is to deploy his resources insead what we're seeing is really unusual contacts with various people that all seem to have associations to putin the latest was i believe some emails have surface to surface that. that someone was making a promise that if the trump tower got built in moscow. you know putin would help a left donald trump president whether that has any basis in reality or not it's just one in a really long line you look for patterns and the pattern is concerning and i just hope like most americans that robert mueller the special prosecutor is working really hard with his crackerjack team and get to the bottom of this quickly more with valerie plame after the break. about your sudden passing i've only just

learned you were yourself and taken your last wrong turn. your act right up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry. so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got my chance to. i remember when we first met my life turned on each by. the time my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was a cage still some more fond of you those that didn't like to question or are. secretly promised to never be like it's one does not leave the funeral in the same as one enters mind it's consumed with this one to. speak to you as there were no one there to. things that mainstream media it's not it's make.

i'm tom hartman i'll give you what the mainstream media can't so it's big picture. and when you question more fun with you're looking at the. dog. who go deeper investigate and debate all so you can get the big picture. back with valerie plame wilson for covert status was rolled by members of the bush administration she's off the books like fair game my life as a spy my betrayal by the white house and spy novels rolled back and burned and

activists against nuclear weapons and she's joining us from santa fe new mexico us and john le carré the great spy novel we'll see who was in the british m.i.a. said that putin was k.g.b. once a small always a spy are you still in your heart a spy. i would say in my heart yeah i'm still incredibly curious about people and that is what makes this successful operations officer among other skills but you have to really care everyone has a story everyone you just have to ask what it is and that is the heart of human intelligence i was proud of my career i love that i serve my country i love that i focused on nuclear issues but it ended rather abruptly do you think

that. having the spy in and lead was involved in the election is still involved in the running of the government has something on trump this is your gut feeling do you think that my gut feeling tells me there's something there there's just too much smoke for there not to be something there putin you're right comes out of the k.g.b. you don't forget that you don't forget that training how to manipulate people what's your leverage and he's got that all going on inside of his head i can't imagine that i i don't know that putin thought for sure that trump would be elected but it's a classic what we would call influence operation why not you spread it out you put as many different contacts in toward your target in this case a potential president and see what you get and as it turns out a lot of the people around trump are either not too smart inept or greedy and so

those are all great characteristics to work with when you're trying to do something are you comfortable with the number of military people around the president. no and i come from a military family my father was an air force officer he served in world war two my brother was a marine who was wounded in vietnam so i grew up in the military but we have a longstanding tradition in this democracy that the military is subservient to civilian control and when i see so many stars and bars sitting around his other the situation table in the cabinet room it makes me a little nervous no but in this case it is your idea and add i was good. i just wanted to add that i don't mean in any way to take away from their service to country it's just that this. this foundation that we have that we have

civilian control over our democracy this is one of the bedrocks of this country valerie thanks so much stang's for your time today. thank you larry thank you for having me joining me now is bill breasts talk radio host and progressive commentator and an old friend he's host of the bluebirds show on the young turks network he joins me from washington ok but what do you think of trump's use of twitter does this help his presidency were herded. hi larry good to see you first of all same here no i think i think it hurts his presidency i think it's an embarrassment i also tell you as a journalist who follows the donald trump tweets because i have to i'm part of the white house press corps you know it's a pain in the us because. he tweets nonstop first thing i see on my phone when i

got up in the morning or tweets from donald trump you know i don't know whether ever sleeps but seriously i think there are i think there are problems for a couple reasons one i think there embarrassing to the american public too i really do think they demean the president the office of the presidency of the united states i mean you know he sounds like a. egotistical teenager right is just so happy to see his name out there that he keeps tweeting mostly about himself and thirdly you know he said he has said the tweets are official presidential statements which means that he sees his tweets as having at least having some power and i think people around the world see it god knows what north korea things when he attacks the leader of north korea or any other country or members a ray of the republican senate or says that there are no transgender americans should be allowed to serve in the in the military so i don't what valerie plame is trying to do and i'm all for how about. let's take the other side for

a minute how above here's a president directly communicating with people every day what's wrong with that. because he's telling lies for the most part. and again. i don't you know you i don't think you can trust anything that comes out of this white house from anybody certainly not from the president so he is spreading fake news his spreading false hoods around around the world and again i think we expect the president of the united states and larry i say this is republican or democrat right you know george bush had a certain i disagreed with him on his policy but he respected the office of the of the presidency he did he maintained a great respect and dignity in the office so did his father so did everybody else donald trump he treats it like a place that he's been treating a lot about hurricane harvey how do you assess the smaug his handling of this. you

know i think it's mixed frankly first of all i think the fema has been on the job from the response that i've seen with governor abbott with the fema director bruce lock with. representing the president of course with the local mayors i think the agencies have been cooperating and doing as much as they can to help people down in that area trump's tweets i find it very strange first of all he's obviously fascinated by this hurricane and he if you read the tweets he brags about how big it is it's almost like he sees it as an accomplishment of the trump white house that we have the biggest storm ever to hit in the last twenty years it's like he bragged about this the size of the inauguration instead of focusing on the poor people down there who need help and i mean there's something else he talks about the size the fact that this is a bigger storm than we've ever seen before never makes a connection to climate change of course we're seeing bigger and worse storms

a largely meteorologist all say this because of climate change as hurricane harvey bore down on texas friday he announces a ban on transgender people serving in the military he pardons sheriff arpaio and he parts ways was. what do you make of those three things on that friday night . well you would i for a long time has seen the friday night dump. larry i don't think we've ever seen so much dumped on. and i don't think we've ever seen anybody use a national or natural disaster hurricane to get this bad news out there. that would reflect badly on him but i think all three of those moves well two of the three certainly are a disaster and by the way it was not an accident that he put those out at the time he we knew was going to pardon

a pio we knew he was going to follow through on the direct transgender thing we thought that corker was on thin ice and he just chose a time when he thought that rightly that the networks and cable news would not be paid and would not pay as much attention to it bill when did transgender in the military become a big problem. i don't remember it being a problem. i think if you ask anybody and i have anybody in the military and i've talked to some generals about it too they don't see it as a problem i mean we're talking larry what may be point zero zero one percent right if that and these are men and women who are serving today in uniform proudly serving the united states of america we ought to be grateful to them rather than throwing them out of the military they're in iraq they're in afghanistan they're in game and they're across across the globe i'm sure some in south korea. and you know

i say the same thing about them as the. americans. are all l.g. beauty americans with if they want to put on the uniform and volunteer to serve this country then god bless you and thank you for your service i think this this is this is nothing but pure discrimination i remember evolved to trump donald trump promise he was going to be the most gay friendly president ever and he voc a trump said she was going to hold her father to that promise both of them being made on their promise and the joe pyo part. i got to tell you from all the outrages that that we've seen and heard from donald trump from accusing barack obama for wiretapping you know trump tower which he didn't firing james comey whatever you name it i think this pardon of joe arpaio is the worst. because the message it sends is you can defy the law you can defy

the constitution of the united states you can be an out right racist and that's ok as long as you're a friend of the president of the united states now you know clearly donald trump has the authority under the constitution to pardon anybody who wants which is something we maybe ought to revisit for any president but this is the first time a president has used his constitutional power to reward somebody for violating the constitution if that doesn't turn things upside down. or what does racial profiling discover were totally over the i mean go ahead well i was just going to say remember what arpaio was was found guilty of that the judge said no what you're doing is deliberately racially profiling latino's and stopping people just because they have brown skin they've committed no crime and demanding to see their papers

and arpaio said i don't care what you say i'm going to continue to do it and donald trump is saying ok with me the other thing is larry i think and other people have made this point is i think what donald trump is saying he's this is a message to michael flynn and to paul maddow fort and to roger stone and to carter page and maybe to jared christian or don't worry about robert mueller if you get indicted pardieu. over the weekend said jerry state rex tillerson said the president speaks for himself when it comes to values what did you make of that. my question is so why is rex tillerson still on the job why doesn't he quit i thought it was stunning and he said that on fox news sunday as we know to chris wallace. and what were tillerson in the context right chris wallace asked the secretary of state told us and whether people around the world might be concerned for after what

happened in charlottesville until august and said i don't think i'm paraphrasing but very close to this i don't think there's any doubt that people around the world know what america's values are and that all americans share those values and chris wallace follow up and said all americans even the president and for tillerson he could have said of course the president is right of course i speak for the present and said he said no donald trump speaks for himself. but i don't remember ever seeing a cabinet member break with a president that way they'll always great talking to you hope to see in washington soon we'll see at the prom fave we just got started. i think you know the other day but all your press great guy we thank him for joining us on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at kings things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking.

about your sudden passing i've only just learned you were a south and taken your last to bang turn. your act caught up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry finally i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath. but then my feelings started to change you talked about more like it was again still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never again like it said one does not leave a funeral in the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with death this one quite different i speak to you now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker.

but. i do not know if the russians stick into john podesta emails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims of russia i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing when three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied the deep n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating corporate media has once again proved to be an echo chamber for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally

important. but the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming interesting which. are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture looking to blame anyone for the election of donald trump a lame white people the recent why with the now and scholar michael eric dyson just a moment every publicans have supposedly come up with an obamacare replacement bill

so why i think keeping it secret is conservative ron phillips of progressive valerie irvin into nights rumble later on in the program. at this time eight years ago people in the media were seriously talking about how the united states of america had finally become a post racial nation barack obama had just been elected our first black president and there was a general sense among some people that the nation was finally turning a corner away from our brutal apartheid past flash forward now and we have a k.k.k. sympathisers attorney general neo nazis are on the march all over the country and donald trump the king of the birth is our president how did this happen it happened my next guest argues because white people have never come to grips with the myths they've created about themselves the country they live in or the people of color with whom they share this country with me now is michael eric dyson. professor of

sociology at georgetown university contributing writer to the new york times and author of the absolute must read new book tears we cannot stop a sermon to white america michael eric dyson it is such an honor and a pleasure to have it with you that i could be your most from this is i could not put this book down i'd just and i mean i'm familiar with the content of your i that i regularly do rants that i get the content of this and yet you know i grew up a white kid in a whites you know kind of lower middle class working class blue collar suburb of lansing michigan and never you and i have very different experiences growing up and throughout our lives and and it was so personal it was so powerful i just i just have to say to everybody watching you know particularly if you're white this is a service you know you need to buy this book so forgive the and then give the ad there but the company thinks. so one of the principle concepts in the book

that has not. been discussed that hasn't gotten the kind of discussion i think it needs particularly in the in the so-called mainstream press which is another way of saying largely white press i would argue is this concept of whiteness defining what . can you please refund that for a minute yeah you know that's a great point and you know i think white brothers and sisters are not used to thinking of whiteness as one among a family of identifications racially like black brown yellow when we say race we think of those but we don't think whiteness like men think gender or women we never think mynd masculinity so whiteness is as i've tried to argue this book an invention of fiction something created so that people could make sense of ethnic identities from europe whether it's polish irish italian jewish and the like and when they come to america in the in the if you will crucible of race polarizing ethnic particularity and remaking it is something that is

a fiction called whiteness. people are not born white they're born as human beings they're born with a different characteristics and yet whiteness as james baldwin understood it was a political identity it's a description of a certain set of ideas superiority versus inferiority smarter versus dumber better purer versus those which are more mixed so when whiteness comes into being it comes into being as a result of trying to justify and legitimate a certain relationship of power to subordinate peoples and to alternative countries and lifestyles outside of the mainstream of what was then you know became known as the united states of america and before that in part of this broader him a sphere so white is an invention it's a fiction it's a mythology trying to justify a legitimate a certain place of white people in the order of the universe thinking that things center around whiteness and that whiteness is an inherent identity that is

inherently that is an inherently good and what's what happens is that many white people don't understand that whiteness gets rendered invisible because if you think you're american you know a lot of white people say why can't you people just get over race why can't you just talk about being human because they see themselves as human they don't think that they are quote racist they don't see that you know whiteness becomes invisible which becomes universal which becomes normative which means that you're just human but all of that stuff that's caught up in there is really spoken about goal and that also implies that anything other than whiteness is not really a venue and this is you know i mention my own growing up because. growing up as a kid i never thought about race frankly i mean you know outside of looking on t.v. and saying oh yeah there's the marching going on you know. and and it wasn't until i was in high school that i started interacting with people of color and discovering that they were talking about race all the time and i've never talked about race and that i probably would. forty or fifty years old before it

dawned on me that that was the most powerful part of white privilege was that i never had to think about race and i never had no wonder what impact my race was going to have and i walked into a restaurant if i tried to get a job and go into a store or get followed around in a retail store and wondering if you have enough money to pay or to please stop you wondering if you're going to live it is it is one of the marks of a of a privilege not to have to understand it not to have to grapple with it not to understand it as a privilege you know many white people say to me look you're richer than me you're a professor at georgetown what the hell are you talking about and yet that privilege of in the countering a law enforcement officer and not dying is one of the greatest privileges ever and it has nothing to do with money at that level it's a presumption of humanity i was outside of a eatery in washington d.c. and a young kid was arguing with the police cousin i'm out and i said the most of oh my god they're going to shoot him and then i said well no they're not really going to shoot him he's

a young white kid and the police say the following son it's clear that you're in need you need to go home and sleep it all was like wow can we get that can we get that presumption of humanity and many white people don't understand that that is a kind of presumptuousness presumption about humanity a presumption about you're not out to hurt me you could be my kid you could be my cousin you could be my uncle that we don't get extended to us as people of color and that kind of privilege is deeply ingrained in entrenched you know they say somebody was born on third base and thinks he had a double triple you know donald trump like so the reality is is that i think we're not asked to think about it in your point is poignant earlier many white brothers and sisters don't have to think about race their lives don't depend on it you know fannie lou hamer the civil rights leader said you know the mistake white people made is that they put us behind them and therefore for our survival sake we have to understand what whiteness was about it when white people are mad or not mad when they give us a raise or not are they going to be means our children and that we have to master

the mechanics of white. you know it's in relationship to our culture but many white brothers and sisters have had not to have not had to do the same thing in reverse like your your survival doesn't pan depend upon knowing it's your livelihood is not contingent on knowing black people or brown or regular people so as a result of that there is a kind of privilege that blinds people or that makes them less sensitive to the kinds of issues that black people and other people of color take for granted every day yeah and one of the. is a couple remarkable collection of stories in your book in particular the stories of your first encounter with the police several of your children's encounters with the police. i was impressed struck i'm not sure what the right words by visceral real you know the brilliance of your storytelling i mean you're genuinely brilliant writer but but also the experience of just you do want to speak to that i again you're it's a sermon to what america what would you say to white america about the experience

in your own life yes of color colliding with police yeah you know that's that's a great point i've had that from the very beginning as a youth first encountering the police on the streets of detroit as a young person one of the stories i tell is that me and my brother and another friend were driving our father's car and it had been stolen one point but it had been retrieved but i don't think it was announced and therefore it wasn't taken off the list so i can understand the police stopping us but when i tried to extract my driver's license and registration from my pocket to prove to the policeman look this is really not a stolen car and let me show you brought the butt of his gun down on my back knocked me on the ground and said. move again i'll put you for the lead i'll shoot you and it was intimidating and if i had that experience one time i've had quite a few times that many other people of color the same story my son. my daughter you

know it's it's it's terrorizing you know in the book i talk about the fact that what many white brothers and sisters think about al-qaeda or isis is what black and brown people think about the police you know that great line from jay z. he said back then back when the police were a black man i mean people think oh how hyperbolic is that how dare you make that comparison but if you're terrorized arbitrary forms of authority brought down on your head for no other reason than that you are black or that you look suspicious or that you engender skepticism it's difficult for people to understand just how thoroughly degrading and humiliating that is and how it it alienates you from yourself you know marx talks about you know work and how you're alienated from your work and therefore your labor is foreign to you i think that a lot of people are foreign to their sense of you know race and i didn't see and foreign to their sense of humanity and we are as we are split off i talk about in

the book making us a schizophrenia on the one hand you know we're we're a dog doppelganger i think of our own former selves we want to be sharp and intelligent and we want to be lucid and articulate but we feel that we have to cower in the face of you know white police authority or police authority in general and it humiliates us to ourselves and the knowledge of that is even more stinging and those are the kinds of encounters that are characteristic of many people of color and the police do you do you think the. i'm assuming that you think that. most people of color in this country have some sort of extended p.t.s.d. as a result of a lifetime of trauma and if so or if there's a more accurate characterization of what what can be done yeah it's a great point very sensitive point i think so i think there is a kind of extended p.t.s.d. there's a kind of traumatizing of black and brown people black people who feel that the moment they see the police they're scared they're afraid my my grandchildren now

when they were with their father witnessing the police in the tyranny of that potential terror are afraid when they hear hear the police sounds now in the sirens and see the police approaching and to see that so deeply ingrained in my my grandchildren is dispiriting it's discouraging it's disconcerting and it is important for us to acknowledge that these kinds of lethal practice is are something we can do something about but we have to be conscious of them first we have to acknowledge them and so many people are bent upon denying the legitimacy of the experience of so many african-american people you know i'm reminded of president obama when he was in office he kept saying you know black people are not just making this up and the reason he kept saying that is because so many people were thinking especially white people that it can't be like that it can't be that bad it can't be true you must be doing something you must have spoken you know harshly to the police or something they just can't believe that this kind of

brutalizing ritualized terror would be brought down so yes there is a kind of psychic distortion and trauma that is endured by by people of color you know and i was reading an article over the weekend and it up reading michael brown and sandra bland's we kapadia pages they've been rewritten so that the first three or four paragraphs are all casting them as as demons essentially we have about thirty seconds left the demonization of black america is that it's a real i mean it's one of the most devastating consequences. of an unconscious whiteness in the privilege it takes not to hurt or harm and so or demonize itself but to cast aspersions on the the character of people of color especially black people is an extension of a certain logic of whiteness that really has to be unmasked and dealt with and there's a real way michael eric dyson for it is an honor to have thank you sort of how you can see you. mike pence apparently used a private e-mail when he was governor of indiana and was hacked as well where is

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well go back to the big picture if the republican party ever had any sense of shame those days vanished a long long time ago or to report out this week in the indy star vice president mike pence used you guessed it a private e-mail account when he was governor of indiana as a star explains pence communicated via his personal a.o.l. account with top advisors of topics ranging from security gates at the governor's residence to the state's response to terror attacks across the globe in one e-mail pence's top state homeland security adviser related update from the f.b.i. regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror terror related charges oh yeah if all that wasn't bad enough pencils account was also hacked that's right at this is literally what republicans thought hillary clinton should be thrown in prison for and her email wasn't even hacked the utter hypocrisy of republicans would be shocking if it weren't so damn predictable what's wrong.

with me for that i had trouble around philip's republican strategist to gavel resources and valerie urban senior advisor for the working party's family thank you for both for being here could i mispronounce the name your company gabble gabble as in a load of thank you running great to have you with us for joining us so here's a clip of mike pence talking about the hillary clinton e-mail case back in october here again a double standard where the american people believe that there's a there's a different standard for hillary clinton and for the clintons than there is for the rest of us. so you know apparently that double standard i mean should should we be locking up my pants so you know. they're actually you know they're there people are chanting that it seems you know with both sessions and pence well tom and tom price for that matter lied about his you know lied to congress as well shocking

politicians lying but in a way i think there's a there's a significant difference between the governor of indiana and the secretary of state especially when you're dealing with the type of e-mail traffic that was going by princeton have a server sitting in his bathroom and some know he ran it through a.o.l. or any a.o.l. employee could look at his e-mail actually know what it was having a good sense to lock it down and know it then unknown it no void the entire experience now that you know when she decided she said it and she submitted everything there the clinton when you're the secretary of state you're dealing with a much higher level of intelligence when you are the governor of indiana so i think we're comparing apples and oranges but that's ok it makes great television but when you're talking about the quantity and the quality and the product of what each of those e-mails and what they were disclosing i think get a little bit bigger scope to a smaller scale so you're just fine like that's being a hypocrite. doing what he was doing and i don't know he did

a poorly i think all got hacked no i think i think there's a difference there is a huge difference between somebody who everybody has a private e-mail account i think what the thing is when we're talking about during secretary clinton's time there was not only the fact that you were voiding as the second you know you know state dance and all around the not a lot of there is the you're fine with the it's now hypocrisy i don't see this so you're fine with it whatever it out are your thoughts on this i mean i think it's pretty extraordinary it's complete and utter hypocrisy for mike pence and his friends in the republican party to go after hillary and basically start this whole thing about. lock her up when we're saying a lot of hypocrisy among republicans right now on the hill everyone from the president of the united states to the attorney general and a whole lot of other people it's really pretty extraordinary for people to watch the television and get

a little confused about like what's real what's not real what's true what's not true it's ok for you but not for hillary i mean this is outrageous well away but wait what i mean if you're going to talk about you know how about locker up let's what it was all about e-mails we're talking about clinton donations that are tied directly to official actions of the state department we're talking about all i've got about the reading it not only on it and not let me say there are good only that he know his dad has returned i mean look at your return i said i don't know if it's not about its record as well you know what i would love if you're going to let me get this right you're upset the hillary clinton might have gotten paid to give speeches that money came in the clinton foundation and you think that there was a connection between that i absolutely know i know you're totally right connection but it was just area so there was never an investigation here actually it was there was a recession about grandchildren though there are those there's a risk that with there is never an event that. you're not allowed to talk to the

russian ambassador the waiters are aware that there is a lot into the morning and it's about a just ongoing criminal investigation run your city you know it's just fine or you're excuse me you're condemning hillary clinton for taking money from special interests at the same time that the sitting president has dates on the hotel down the street that has a lease that says it's illegal for him to own it i'm condemning hillary clinton for the fact that we have no why would you condemn donald trump it's not his hotel he used to vested him so to his you know how it is the family i'm sorry the social security number that is still associate with that hotel is donald trump's personal social security number he has not goes to that hotel or anything else. but they are moving along republicans apparently have some kind of obamacare replacement bill the only problem is they're not letting anyone see it even a veritable capitol hill treasure hunt led by democratic house minority whip stanny oyur failed to come up with the goods on thursday hoyer and a group of democratic congressman were finally given permission to view the bill in

a special room in the capitol but when they got there they couldn't find the bill even republicans like kentucky senator rand paul have called out the republican party for its secrecy paul put out a series of joke tweets this morning asking republicans in congress to show me the bell this bill is going to affect the lives of millions shouldn't we see it this was the big republican complaint about obamacare if i remember right that it was done in secret now tom you know that you have the policy of the democratic party on capitol hill if you have to pass overhaul the health care legislation first before you know what that was nancy pelosi telling the fact that matter is it was it was litigated in public in committee everybody knew it was exactly when we got on the air force nobody knows what's in the republicans why are you guys hiding it we're not it's not a matter of how do you have to finish the bill you have to show bill we're trying to untangle some we don't ask you don't want to transparent process democratic party had seven years to destroy the health care system i'm going to the store today i think what we're going to hear in thirty days is that the republicans are

starting to change their mind about repeal of obamacare when they're finding out that millions and millions of people across this country are basically up in arms about losing their their obamacare which they did know a lot of people didn't know the cia was obamacare more than half of republican voters stood up real well more than their voters absolutely so i think they're like highlighting this bill because i think what's going to come out it's going to be obamacare called something else it's going to call you know what is right for going to do rather than they're going to tweak around the edges i mean they don't want to you know people are mobile and get out of a hose to health care we support medicaid we support. medicare always supported social security is just got to be economically feasible so again you know i mean privatizing social security and medicare you baby lockley medical create i mean the head of the entire system the huge set up the democratic party set up i don't blame you two i think you probably could have done

a better job what they did on capitol hill is collapsing you're talking about here this is the republicans wrote really calamitous is the republican concern there i mean it in a place in massachusetts the heritage foundation came out with that name one hundred eighty six richard nixon proposed it in one nine hundred seventy two we've got this is we've got all they are it is the republican solution that's why i think that's probably where it is there is to put a sticker over the original olive and so you think this is what you can start your own credit auction and democratic option is single payer please we can receive. you get a seven year start on destroying the health care industry we're going to take more of about thirty to sixty days worse to fix if it's been destroyed why are the profits and the stock prices of health insurance companies higher than they have ever been in the history of the united states is pretty sure it would because you're talking to the middle america who actually has to support the funding of this bill in this car so let's get it saying students are college i want a business let's get the banks of the business let's take that five hundred eight billion dollars a year that we spend on administrative expenses in our doctors' offices hospitals

and profits for the for the these banks the call themselves health insurance companies and get rid of it we can use that five hundred eight billion dollars that's almost the cost of the pentagon tonight and they do not only that i mean let's talk about medicaid because you just said something a little while ago republicans did not support medicaid if we were able to expand medicaid in all fifty states it would cover more than half of the people who don't have health insurance coverage right now and the fact that was republicans might be responsible well they're not we're not so dollars are republicans i know that kind of goes against the last of the democratic party there is nothing there is a responsible somebody on their i mean somebody has to say you go at the end of the day and that's the problem with obamacare it's all those ones paying the bill. and the ones over pay so you're destroying the industry you're destroying mom and pop organizations and businesses across the country that's why you have done so. if you are into that he takes team was no mustering does it worry you are you going to try admitting that it is not how you or your argument so if republicans are physically

responsible and why is it that medicare part d. does not allow medicaid to medicare to negotiate drug prices why is that you guys are you know want a five hundred eight billion dollar subsidy the health insurance industry why do you want a three hundred billion dollars subsidy to the fossil fuel industry why why would the republicans all i see is crony capitalism i disagree and so on what do i mean running capital i know you've got your there's no there's no question there is crony capitalism washing d.c. and it has to be fix but the problem is we are going to be affected by republican we can't fix eight years of destruction. and so so are you ready to say no more crony capitalism will get rid of it will it work we will allow medicine that i know you're going into the defense budget and totally vamping the entire procurement system you want to try to four billion dollars it returns on tractors you're going to get bread or donations to the trauma care how does it drive into our lob i want to know how it is draining the swamp you're creating two more layers of government

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names such as the fraternal order. of old knights oath keepers made up of current and former law enforcement and military veterans and proud voice these groups seek out street confrontations with left wing protesters some of whom have formed counter groups such as the black bloc and the fascists. and redneck provoke the right wing vigilantes whose violence and racism is incited by donald trump and a host of proto fascist pundits the news outlets has become emboldened threatening to tear apart civil society or to correspondent on your panto looks at the profusion of new. right wing hate groups. the united states has a problem with white supremacy earlier this month that problem reared its ugly head when several white supremacist groups convened on charlottesville virginia to protest the removal of a statue commemorating confederate general robert e. lee on saturday august twelfth a white supremacist named james alex fields charged his car into

a crowd of anti-fascist counter protesters killing thirty two year old charlottesville native heather higher the southern poverty law center claims that tracks nine hundred seventeen hate groups in the country ranging from the american classic the ku klux klan to neo nazis that to the modern phenomenon of the so-called all right the first inception of the k.k.k. was founded in eight hundred sixty five and the s.p.l. see estimates it currently has up to eight thousand members nationally a google trends topic search for kook klux klan reveals a moment of renewed interest in the k.k.k. as reported by the washington post google searches spiked in two thousand and eight after the election of barack obama the first black president then introspect again in march last year when donald trump was slow to renounce an endorsement from former klan leader david duke it peaked again around election day in november and following the events in charlottesville more people are searching for the k.k.k.

the group in charlottesville also included neo nazi. and members of the so-called all right movement which praised for his response to the tragedy which unfolded the president blamed on both sides of the protests you had a group on the other side they came charging in without a permit and they were very very violent i've condemned many different groups always a group on this side you can call of the left or you've just called them the left that came violently attacking the other group i think there's blame on both sides but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides thousand divisions grow in the streets even as confederate monuments come down it seems white supremacy in the united states isn't going anywhere. thank you anya i'm joined today by a drama baracoa he was the green party's nominee for vice president in the two thousand and sixteen election he served as the founding executive director of the u.s. human rights network and is currently an associate fellow at the institute for policy

studies in washington d.c. we've seen a rise of what has been part of the d.n.a. of american white society for a long time these white vigilante groups all right groups that are now walking into the streets looking for. physical confrontations with any fascists black lives activists and others how do you assess this phenomenon well as you indicated in your question your comment it is part of the history of this country that violence has always been at the center of this settler colonial experience of violence both official and unofficial it was the militias that were part of the process of clearing the land of the indigenous it was militias and various paramilitary forces just interrupt you there there's a lot of people don't know that some of the worst massacres of indigenous

communities you know were not carried out by the cavalry they didn't shy away from genocide you know but you're right from private militias raised out of denver who then wiped out entire indian camp those kind of private militias but also just local. initiatives by settlers to get rid of the local indigenous problem so that's been part of the the us experience of the paramilitary forces that were part of enforcing the racial colds and the configurations of power in the south that became the centerpiece of the totalitarian experience for african-americans that is always been the as you say the d.n.a. that's been this is characterized race relations here in this country so today we have it will be see is a new. embolden radical right that feels that they have now the political space and the justification to ally themselves with this reactionary

up in the destruction and to carry out the desires the aspirations of the white race this right that wants to make america great again great again for home for themselves yes they see the u.s. always as part of their. their nation or you had to do was get rid of those pesky indigenous people and to marginalize black folks and to terrorize immigrants this is seen as a white nation. what period in history we have to go back a few decades to see at the highest levels of government including withdrawn the stuff is being not only lauded but incited and we have so called media outlets from fox news to breitbart. that function as propagandists for white supremacy they really do you know but there's been this collaboration even with the democrats

i mean for example in two thousand and nine there was a very important report that was produced by the department of homeland security that talked about the rise of the right. dana five the right as really the most important threat to national security in this country but that report eventually ended up being suppressed by the obama administration because the republicans in this weird strange position said that this was an attack on them and therefore they they bear it the report now the issue is this chris if that report would have been properly disseminated and people would have been alerted to the fact that you had this radical violent right wing developing in this country perhaps when. i walked into that church maybe the. parishioners would have been more on guard. but that's what we have in this country

that basically we are expendable and so for political expediency the obama administration suppressed that report and we were now put on alert to this rising neil fascist movement how dangerous do you think it is. i think it's very dangerous but in some ways it's actually less dangerous then the solve right wing as our call them that is the the inability or the reluctance on the part of most people in this country to deal with the underlying the logical justification for this violence the the you normalization of white supremacy this notion that this in fact is a white nation. and that it has the right and responsibility to not only keep people of color in check in the u.s. but around the world how do you explain the fact that you can have the truth of

ministration deciding themselves that they can punish the assad government because of their alleged violations of some of its international law and get away with it would almost no opposition so this whole white father this part of this does this racist idiology this this american exceptionalism exceptionalism if you will that's been part of the american idiology and has been normalized and accepted by all richard hofstadter in his last book on violence writes that these white vigilante groups whether they were the slave patrols of the klan or the gun thugs that broke the labor movement the pinkertons the one felt's have essentially tacitly serve the interests of the ruling elites although they're not official organs of government and that gives the ruling elites a kind of deniability and yet they are a vital instrument for control in times of radical form is that what we're seeing

i think we seeing some of that but one of the things that we need to be soo point out is that the consolidation of the of the right as a movement connected to the trump phenomenon has a really congealed yet even though. they are playing they're almost playing an independent role if you will but i don't see the real consolidation of a movement yet but we do see with some of the activity i think the the what could in fact develop into something really really dangerous where you see groups like oath keepers most keepers is made up of former law enforcement current law enforcement and military veterans a kind of american fry core group that. and they may not be related but they're certainly related to the internal organs of oppression. most definitely but

if the if they had their that if they are if they have an ability to really get out of they themselves into a political force then there's still the possibility that they can be somewhat contained but i don't want to downplay the potential danger of these groups and the very fact that they have they have a strategy to if we treat it to expand within the repressive apparatus of the police forces and the military it does make them a formidable force have to be watched very closely what's the response how should we begin to respond well we have to. continue to educate people on this threat but i think we have to also go to the core of the the justifications and how they explain their existence we have to point out the similarities between the wanted to make america great and the. posture of the democrats who talk about

american exceptionalism i me two sides of the same white supremacist calling so this this battle over ideals is a battle of consciousness has to be front and center in the current struggles because these folks feel justified in their activities. and the only way that we're going to be able to counter that is to go right to the heart of how they explain themselves to themselves and to the world right when we come back we'll continue our conversation with. the mission of newsworthy it is to go to the people tell their side of the story our stories are well sourced we don't hide anything from the public and i don't

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violent white supremacy groups but look at the condition. in many ways implanted by the democratic party establishment that gave rise to the dress that well you know it's been historically has been a bipartisan. effort to control it to contain. the populations of people color here in this country specifically black folks and in particular when there's been political motion on the part of black folks when you look at for example the the counterinsurgency that was directed at the black liberation movement about cointelpro cointelpro this was a a bipartisan effort to basically undermine the black liberation movement by using every dirty trick type take one can could imagine including assassination and it was fully justified in terms of what the defense of the state and the nation so

this is no this is the attempt to say to protect the white supremacy the state is something is at the heart of the it is logical justification for this this country and it's something this shared by both parties so you know we could look at an addendum and confront these more obvious examples of white supremacy as violence but you know i'm concerned also about the violence of the state the justifications for for supporting white supremacy the ability of the state to be able to. project its power globally and with sufficient and overwhelming support from the american people so we don't begin to confront those notions we can't explain why we can have a unanimous support for the slaughter in gaza the support of the israelis saluting hours including bernie sanders then we can understand what is in play here in this

country it is logically how do you look at the difference between a figure. like hillary clinton and donald trump. well i see the the the hard right and the software as i called it. the crude hard right of the dollar trump and the consistent soft right of the of the neo liberal hillary clinton but is there really much of a difference in terms of policy well there's some differences in terms of the forces the social base of the trunk the ministration i having some elements that really are concerned with america first of those midsize and large economic interests who's more concerned about the u.s. economy than the global economy so that's a direct contradiction to the transnational agenda that hillary clinton represents so there are some differences what about for let's say oppressed people in

particular african-american people or is there a difference the only difference is that we have the more crude expressions of white supremacy under donald trump than we do under hillary clinton and is some ways a more dangerous element with if hillary clinton would have won because we would have the continuation of policies that would have continued with the with constraining. economic aspirations it would have provided cover to the continuous suffering of black working class and poor people in this country without the corresponding opposition so in some ways the neo liberal agenda with the face of a barack obama or hillary clinton is more dangerous than the policies and the face of donald trump you're watching the empire disintegrate what we're doing is not sustainable militarily or economically and when societies to senate great they

cough up these mutations where do you see us going. unfortunately i see it getting worse before it gets better but i do have hope. but we have to be prepared for for the war that we are involved in a week those of us in the in the black community we have net confuse. what is happening and that's why we are desperately attempting to try to reorganize ourselves because we know that we are in a war and we have to have the ability to be able to defend ourselves as we tried to build a more effective opposition. what we need to do though is to help for our allies to understand the terms of this war and to confront directly the ideological justifications for white supremacy because if net then it will be it won't just be donald trump building this. new white united front but we

see and we have seeing the same kind of sentiments cropping up in the democratic party when you have democrats including people like bernie sanders who say who told us that the reason that hillary clinton lulz was because of identity politics and that resonates the way it did with people began to look at the fact that maybe the democratic party was too concerned about black folks and women but of course. that's a lie because look at two thousand and eight. group of americans who suffer the most economically are african-americans so that's completely a false narrative but that narrative has been effective and has been a narrative strangely enough has been embraced by elements of the so-called left in this country so until we began to really seriously confront this issue of white supremacy and all of its manifestations then we are going to be will be very difficult to build the kind of oppositional move that we have to build in this

country now we are going to end up going through a neo fascist phase i think but if we can survive that i think we will i think that. my sons and my daughter is in their lifetime they're going to see some real fundamental change because this thing this unsustainable it doesn't have forty more years. is jackson mississippi a kind of model for you should explain what's going on in jackson what jackson mississippi is a model in the sense of how we can use the electoral arena. was one aspect of the strategy plain about how to the basically right now we have an election where. the son of. who won the marriage ship four years ago but who died after eight months in office we have another opportunity now to seize a local local power if you will to experiment or how we can use their space to in

fact shift power to the people and he doesn't talk a little bit about transforming locally because i don't know if you agree but i think that radical change is going to. a place like jackson it's not going to come from a green party candidate running for president i think you have only right to be on the board of directors of cooperation jackson which is the the nonprofit arm of that of that activity building cooperatives organizing and building people's assemblies having an independent social base that is. committed to building independent political power with running the as one aspect of that broader struggle but is all about building power is all about building a new kind of could not economy is about building dual power while we also struggle for radical transformation and you're right those are the models we have to look at that is the route that we have to go in this country in building

a real radical movement and that that's what scares the state they can and that's why we have these efforts that are preempting these democratic experience this where the states are going directly into these local governments and taken over passing laws to make it very difficult for local governments to pass progressive legislation they are they fear democracy that's why we have to push for real. popular democracy and that's what jackson is really all about. and do you see this as a network that spreading i mean jackson is probably the highest profile but you seem that's. spreading across the country many people many organizations are looking at this model and because of the fact that one can that criticize the jackson experiment as being some petty bourgeois deviation we have more and more

people in the black community for example who are looking at the electoral arena in a different way as a space they can be contested as part of a broader strategy of building power and you have other progressive people looking at jackson so this model is has the potential of being replicated in various parts of the country but we see jackson is really critical because it is location in the south and this stuff is still a key region. to organize if we're going to have real transformation here in this country and that's why this issue of violence is so important too because the south is also a key base for this kind of white vigilante military violence and so we expect to have seen an uptick of that also in the south and we prepared for that. possibility what is that preparation. is making people first aware and it is.

engaging in conversations around in the for us to be prepared to defend ourselves. politically and otherwise. have you seen an attempt to on the part of the white supremacy state to roll back the games in jackson there was attempt already there was made of last year to go back to the state one of the most important. economic elements and that is the airport this attaches to the jackson city government and the state made a move to in fact take that back but that was being backed temporarily so the audio that we think is going to be pursued by the state of mississippi is to try to dismiss engage from the jackson city government those very valuable economic assets. in a small as a city goddamn and i mean every word of it is that well that's where it's going to

happen really is it really is but you know this issue of violence this issue of the connection between these paramilitary forces and the state is something that we've got to talk more about because it is a model for the other side also and we've got to be really prepared for that development taken place here in this country thanks that was associate fellow at the institute for policy studies. vigilante bands of white races throughout american history have served and continue to serve the interests of the capitalist state they're used to make sure the dispossessed and marginalized remain dispossessed and marginalized vigilante groups in america do not trade violence for violence they murder anyone who defies the structures of capitalism even if the victims are unarmed the vigilantes often working with the approval and sometimes

the collusion of the state and law enforcement agencies are rarely held accountable there capitalisms shock troops in. illogical vanguard used to break populist movements and terrorize minorities they revel in a demented hyper masculinity they champion a racist nationalism that is fused with the iconography language and rituals of the christian religion and they have huge megaphones on the airwaves funded by the most retrograde forces in american capitalism to spread their message they are the bedrock of a new american fascism. thank you for watching you can find us on our t. dot com slash on contact see you next week.

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