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john oliver of marti americans. are apparently better than. the sea people you've never heard of la jack the. president of the world bank very. seriously send us an e-mail. small children from mosul arrive late baghdad or finish artie's helping to find their relatives we also bring you were reports on the struggles of children in water or in iraq. vulnerable for abuse for trafficking. or for. the danger that children are exposed to. first the russian journalists working for the country's channel one is deported from ukraine the security service is warning this will happen to anyone they deem anti ukrainian. germany's foreign minister says it is time to
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kick america's nuclear weapons out of his country the issues of several that have emerged in the run up to the german general election. very good evening to you my name is neil harvey you're watching r.t. international. the battle to force islamic state from wall to iraq has devastated civilian lives particularly those of children is continuing its campaign to find the relatives of children abandoned by their parents fighting for i saw more of these children from mosul were recently brought to a baghdad orphanage. and you come on here. and you. will be especially the.
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good. new will change. the girl's name is had her foot was badly burned the boys called mohammed he has a knee injury both of the children still under a lot of stress and refuse to talk with the kids who are with them say they're from chechnya if you think you might recognize either them please get in contact with this on children at r t t v dot com artie's correspondent brad has the if takes a look now at the problems children face in war torn iraq. these children have seen more bloodshed and agony than most adults will in a lifetime nearly ninety percent of children have lost a member of
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a family either they were kidnapped or killed and when they were escaping from the fight many of them have lost family members they were shot at from behind or falling on booby traps it has been a horrible experience. so this helicopter flights that are. dropping down on the floor and carrying some of them my some of them feel when they see for a mask some of them feel when they see you know people that they are not comfortable with some of them shut up and say no what for quite a long time until they could actually opened up definitely they go all the extreme distress and also physically unfortunately many of them are wounded. many of the hospitals who visit confirmed that. the biggest number of civilians they have in the hospitals are children traumatized in mind and body but alive
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lucky by local standards though let's be frank stuck in orphanages and refugee camps in iraq and you believe given the sheer magnitude of the problem thousands and thousands of orphans and little. do you believe you can adequately help them we are helping those sold and we see certainly we don't have enough resources the children are almost everywhere but ultimately the support comes from family from government and the extended family that once we connect children they are everybody scheme to receive them and the support of the problem is made. king the connection to all of these orphans iraq e so many foreign children of isis fighters. and how big it is much better of foreign children were reunited with their families
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they will have problems here with documents in schools with health care they need their families love problems is putting it lightly in iraq tribal culture venerates blood feuds and revenge isis harmed millions there are those who would use these children who hate them for what their parents did. vulnerable for abuse they are vulnerable for trafficking. or for. any danger that children exposed in today's technology any. bad group. could get those children and harmed them some of these lost children a raped their assaulted abused and abandoned killed for their organs hated for the sins of their fathers the un and unicef do what they can to protect them
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but there are too many getting them out is a reward unto itself. we helped identify and reunite a number of these shoulder and yet it isn't straightforward unicef for example once these kids identities protected fearing stigma or exploitation we know we tell our children. if we do not allow our children to normalize tensions that we did not know how do we think of allowing a child that had gone. crisis is. to expose him to become a it's a hard choice you can show their faces for everyone to see and let their relatives
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recognize them or pray that they find themselves one desperate young refugees among the rocks millions more i guess. for many be iraq across the border in syria the battle faisel the defunct capital there is also taking its toll on civilians the un's undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs says dozens of civilians are likely being killed every day the u.n. estimates that an average of twenty seven people are being killed in iraq every day up to twenty five thousand civilians still remain trapped in the city and they're increasingly exposed to the crossfire of the ongoing fighting they risk being killed either by airstrikes or by eisel snipers or mines if they try to flee. what car is the biggest eisel stronghold and an operation to liberate it is currently underway at the assistance of u.s.
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airpower we spoke to locals a managed to flee the fighting here's how they describe the situation. the u.n. estimates that an average of twenty seven people are being killed in iraq every day up to twenty five thousand civilians still remain trapped in the city and they're increasingly exposed to the crossfire of the ongoing fighting they risk being killed either by airstrikes or by eisel snipers or mines if they try to flee. ok let's discuss what is actually happening in iraq are now with must gerry's the chair of the islamic human rights commission must do good evening to you or you or to what extent are you shocked at the numbers of civilians dying when you consider just the sheer scale of this operation in iraq. absolutely i think is shocking is shocking. not just. so many people are dying where innocent
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civilians are dying this shocking that this whole thing was on the from the beginning i mean the creation of isis was something which was directly connected to . the policies of the west and the way they make sure that in many countries in the middle east or to truly shattered and there is no rule of law and order is no sir continued he and this sort of havoc has been a breeding ground for. and now we're seeing that as the disk use of getting rid of the scene over bombing the discriminately bombing which kills again many civilians and his people it is outrageous these policies have backfired and the reality is that those who are suffering moves on to innocent
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civilians who in did name. and didn't even know of bringing democracy to the region all these policies were unleashed against syria iraq and libya and we're still continuing the similar policies and the expansion elsewhere this is outrageous let's see what could have been done for example in racquel to minimize civilian casualties. well i think to start christmas shouldn't have i don't know sort of the arming off the dietician do you know and allowing to get access to military equipment access to money for oil and so on and so forth you know to be in a position to transcend their lives in this way but then also i think what you're seeing there is a lot of policy came in in one aspect if there is any operation by russia or syria's then that west screams that ordinary civilians are being
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killed but then when the west's allies on the leadership of united states goes and indiscriminately bombs areas then you know there is a silence this side is deafening the reality is that as i said all these policies are ignoring and did their lives the importance of the lives of civilians if the civilians were whiston the civilians there would have been a huge interest and huge. taking into account the needs and aspiration and indeed their safety indeed i will say that even if there were animals there would have been more care taken and but it seems that you know there are expendable. ordinary civilians be it in iraq or be it in syria or big in
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libya and i mean you know whole of the middle east it seems that there are expandable than the this value that is the thing else and i think is that policy that they are thinking we should be creating the environment where you know we are seeing and casualties every day and more and more people dying and we don't even know who they are you know we know the name of every single soldier wriston soldier . who dies in any of these war period afghanistan or iraq or anywhere else but we don't even know the numbers of the civilians who have perished in millions thousands or hundreds of thousands and this is really the heart sort of disgraceful this whole operation attitude that these that use of be underaged is and i think you know really this is a disgrace to the humanity of the whole world thanks for joining us on our three researcher jeremih guest chair of the islamic human rights commission. ukraine's
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security service a russian journalist who has been forcibly deported from the country twenty one year old. who works for russia's channel one is based in kiev and received death threats because of her work r.t. and their culture has the details. russian channel one said that anna was taken right in the streets by a group of unknown man all contact with her was the last stand the channel had no information regarding her whereabouts. literally disappeared in central kiev she was alone and was heading home when she was detained by two men with taken in. and driven away that's according to eyewitness news she received threats and insults and you only managed to do three reports she arrived in ukraine and. now ukraine security services claimed that everything was conducted according to the law and also in a statement that was released. this meaning different taishan will happen to as
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recent go person who they see as someone smearing ukraine so basically everyone whose position they do not agree with now a few words sound the background of foreign acquitted by the way she is a russian journalist born and the south and russian city of atlanta and her last support said that were based on the current situation in ukraine it was also revealed that soon before she was detained she received threats in just a few days earlier her name was added to the database of the website peacekeeper now this website publishes personal data which is almost always open illegally anyone the people behind the website or its contribute to this consider enemies ukraine now this website has cost some controversy in the past at least two ukrainian public were killed days after their home addresses were published by this
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website by a peacekeeper. journalists covering ukraine have been deported before two spanish analysts were reportedly sent home just last week in the last few months to journalists working for russian channels were also deported for allegedly gathering info for negative coverage on international organizations have repeatedly called on kiev to revise its policy to journalists on wednesday's case the organization for security and cooperation in europe called on ukraine not to arrest or deport journalists from other states earlier this month the committee to protect journalists called on the country to encourage different points of view meanwhile a cease fire designed to enable children to return to school bus been violated in eastern ukraine it was agreed upon by the warring parties on august twenty fifth that was ahead of the new academic year that starts in two days' time russian foreign ministry can then violation saying provocative fire is coming from the
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ukrainian forces called on kiev to abide by the cease fire and expressed hope almost as will be taken to ensure peace on the ground. germany's foreign minister says that he'd like to see american nuclear weapons removed from his country gabrielle made that statement on a visit to washington where he met with his u.s. counterpart rex tillerson auntie's peter all of explained what we saw on this visit this official visit to the united states by zick mark gabriele was right at the very end he came out and he said that he would fully support what martin shultz has said in the past that u.s. nuclear weapons it's time to open dialogue about getting them off german soil of course i'm convinced that we need to finally start talking about arms control and disarmament once again in this regard i agree with mr shultz is point that we need to get rid of the nuclear weapons that are stationed in our country. well it's understood that there are around twenty u.s.
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nuclear warheads in germany based in the southwest of the country and just last week the s.p. candidate for chancellor martin shultz the former european parliament president of course was down in turkey have it right in the southwest of the country giving a speech about how it was time to get rid of these nuclear weapons we can hear what he had to say right now. i would. dream of the nuclear weapons currently stationed in germany well sick mark gabrial has said on defense in the past that the us is demands for a two percent of g.d.p. payment by all nato members was unrealistic for germany and it does seem that along with martin short step pushing this no two nukes policy really because it's one of the few ones that they can really go with the german chancellor on the s.p. day the closest rivals to angle of merkel currently trailed by around fourteen points
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if you look at the latest opinion polls in nuclear weapons is really the only position that they can attack angela merkel on the german chancellor is accused in some circles here in germany of following the american line far too closely particularly when it comes to nuclear weapons and the esprit de want to set themselves aside in doing so they've got to put themselves in line with what has the party of peace really how they're going to try and market themselves with just under a month to go before. actions take place here they're really far behind they're going to have to push very hard over the coming weeks if they're going to try and topple angola merkel from her position as german chancellor. a new report by swedish police says that there's been a dramatic increase in so-called no go zones across the country over the last two years the number of what swedish officials call vulnerable areas has now reached sixty one also up to five thousand criminals are believed to be living in them
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making up some of the two hundred criminal networks can think of their problems in all the districts which are heavily populated by migrants remain the same. they sell drugs openly they carry weapons i have heard that there are so many weapons in kissed that they could take over accused in a few hours. there has been quite a lot of shooting very brutal mistreatment of entrepreneurs' a lot of property. that.
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we need to make clear shift in direction we cannot continue in this direction ten more years so i didn't used to do more we need to do more we need to focus on the serious here the problem is that cultural differences and that these immigrants who come to sweden to not want to integrate or some of them don't want to integrate we see this in in is facially many of the european countries where they have taken a lot of immigrants we don't see it in for example poland hungary but in germany in this country where i live in denmark we also have not courtrooms in copenhagen for example and in sweden also so especially in the places where they have taken in
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a lot of immigrants if we see these problems also in france and belgium and in sweden government people didn't want to admit that this is asked. up until they one did don't want to mention their ease no goals some say as noble sometimes. the u.n. secretary general antonio good terrorist says that he hasn't seen a humanitarian crisis like the one in gaza for years while the picks up the story. yesterday i was in the rubble of two very very. unfortunately to witness one of the most dramatic humanitarian crises that i have seen in many years working as a humanitarian in the united nations the un chief after spending several hours in gaza on wednesday has called on the israeli authorities to lift the siege that has been in place on the coast along clave for the better part of ten years in the visit by
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the un chief comes amid a spike of tensions between israel and the united nations earlier this week the israeli deputy foreign minister warned that if the united nations did not change what she perceives as a bias against israel or there is what would stop its funding and support of the international body that the israelis are not completely blameless with evolution one eight six zero course for an immediate cease fire in gaza that would see a full israeli withdrawal would lead to food fuel and medical supplies being allowed to enter gaza this is not the case there is a dire humanitarian situation inside gaza as we heard from the un chief and at the same time there were thousands of people who are prevented from exiting gaza to receive much needed medical care on the israeli side there is a twenty year old boy who we caught up with who is suffering from chronic heart disease who for seven months has been refused permission to leave the coastal enclave. my sickness is tightness in the aorta valve it's a chronic disease and
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a congenital defect the referral procedure is very important because i must leave to have open heart surgery and replace the defective ralph models with from february until now we've applied monthly to get his permit he was supposed to have his surgery in february his muscle has to stay strong if it weakens hugh will be in serious condition he will not be able to have any surgery after that gaza is often referred to by people living there as the largest. present in the world a place where people are deprived of basic needs. dozens of people have taken to the streets of paris to protest against president emanuel micron's new labor law which is intended to make it easier to hire file workers a recent poll found that sixty percent of french people are worried by the proposed changes demonstrators are also outraged by my choice of labor minister namely
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a multi millionaire whom they argue doesn't have workers interests at heart a myriad politico isn't the only controversial face in the french cabinet also on the question of the ministerial credentials of a naturalized publisher of belgian origin and an olympic medalist. reports the protesters think he's failing to represent the people. the. demonstrators have come out again in front to show how exactly they are with the money on that once one perform the working code they have been shouting that they will raise those who want him to which we do to find out in france on thursday they have this quote i'm on your back on this being a man who not only supports business and wants to it's the right. this is what people have been saying to us said that. it takes work in the workers who are against it because it's a dog it has no
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a share now and we can share the work. of the big bosses and those who want to come public services social protections and everything achieved by workers i don't agree with that song. it's about ideology to be able to sound quirk stop work in fact he wants to get rid of employee protections all together it's a big attack of the hierarchy corporate deals will now take over those are some of the reasons why the demonstrators feel so. nationally against these reforms to the working code but not everybody is unhappy with the plans to reform the working crew here in france cruciform says suggested will mean. more ability to hire and fire people to negotiate over salary in terms of additional hours that people work and that's why the head of the employers' federation has actually come out not just in support of this reform but is actually emanuel not going to go all in when
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he introduces that working reform some people have described this as being a bellwether for macaroons presidency because this is his first major time to pass a big piece of legislation here in fronts but recesses have failed so means the scene will be able despite his continuing plunging popularity in the polls in the polls to be able to push this reform through and to appease the french people. ski altie paris. a five year old british girl has reportedly been removed from a muslim force the family after a judge ruled she should be returned to her grandmother as aunties and explains the case spoke to debates about the media's coverage of it. this case involving the foster care of a five year old christian girl has certainly gotten some traction here in the u.k.
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this started when the times began reporting on the case of this child living throughout a period of six months according to them in two sets of foster care muslim families and according to the times they cited things such as the parents not being able to the foster care carers not being able to speak enough english the child being forced to remove her cross they also reported on the fact that they claimed that she was not allowed to eat pasta court carbonara because it had bacon in it and that the foster carers insisted that she learn arabic now this of course was to picked up by other news outlets and created quite a bit of controversy here in the u.k. as well as lots of public reaction we do know that the muslim council have been saying that this was an attempt the coverage was an attempt to demonize their faith they said that some of the coverage has been appalling we do know that m.p.'s have been calling for an investigation into this case and also some people have been speaking for the need to give as much attention to muslim children living in non
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muslim families now that said we do know that the council involved in statements including to us have said that the some of the reporting has actually been according to them inaccurate well we cannot go into details of a case there at all scenic kamisese in the reporting of that for example the child was in fact forced to by an english speaking family of mixed race we do know now that reportedly a newspaper regulator is going to be looking into the coverage of this case however we do know that a judge today in london did rule that the girl is going to be moved to live with her grandmother citing the need for culturally matched policeman in terms of religion and ethnicity. pilots coming into the russian city of sochi is being confronted by not just one but three tornadoes and you can see them here with the play. making its approach. passenger that's probably a pretty worrying see what might even say almost apocalyptic the pilot. to land the
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time after time so we're going underground on the day of the richest horse race in british history the epsom dog be coming up at today's show brussels backing corbin we speak to the former vice chair of the conservative party about trump and paris and whether the european commission is trying to manipulate the u.k. general election and we are defeated not to make all candidates that goldsmith who is contesting a key marginal constituency. that's next week you can lection why the original costings in the conservative manifesto don't look back in anger ahead of tomorrow's
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ariana grande their benefit gig legendary filmmaker and journalist john pilger on whether a smoking gun connects to raise a made for the manchester atrocities all the civil coming of a days going underground but first could next week's general election be even more exciting albeit with more human life or death consequences than today's darby race to the southwest of london juries amazing company tories have you turned on their manifesto even before the election and they've reportedly seen the biggest swing away from a party in the lead in history jeremy corbyn meanwhile has been deserted by most of his parliamentary colleagues because presumably none of them believe in the policies he and his close knit leadership has advocated over the course of his campaign according to opinion polls which have been consistently wrong of late jeremy corbin's party leads the tories by maybe fifty seven percent when it comes to young people while if only the old could vote to raise them a would win a landslide in scotland where a scottish labor leader favors old style tony blair liberalism labor appears to
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face a wipe out from the s.n.p. let alone even the tories but there are some questions that few of asked in this general election campaign take this from a state mandated b b c this week which has already been done for bias against corben frail weak and fighting for their lives. these are the faces of yemen's latest crisis tens of millions of civilians face calamity but who is to blame the b.b.c. appears to suggest the catastrophe is natural britain's channel four news goes further the strongest evidence we've seen has actually been in had data it was from a bomb that was dropped in twenty sixteen on a containing food containing rice on the markings we could see afterwards indicated that bomb was manufactured in the u.k. in may twenty fifteen twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen two years when theresa may . was in government so why does mainstream media not confront the incumbent government ahead of the election especially since jeremy corbyn for labor let alone
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the s. and p. and ukip of the lib dems have all lost questions about the devastating impact of juries amaze oh i'm selling policies and aid that contributes to the conflict well we spoke to labour's shadow chief secretary of the treasury peter o'dowd about saudi arms on wednesday's show later we caught up with someone responsible for aid in the british government former secular state for international development and the former vice chair of the conservative party andrew mitchell we spoke to him just as news of doldrums decision to renegotiate a new paris climate deal was in the was and let's just quickly begin on these reports the donald trump is going to renege on the paris climate deal what's your reaction but i think it will be deeply regrettable. the rules on the changes that was set in paris which was a remarkable achievement having gauged tremendously with the chinese for making great progress in america to turn its back on that i think it will be a terrible thing to happen but one should remember two things i think first of all
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is the disagreement in the trump family about these matters we must hope that they are not yet decided and secondly of course in america individual states have a role to play and so it would not perhaps be the disaster that it first appears but it would be a retrograde step given the tremendous amount of agreement that was achieved in paris let's go to break the drays ways that all of these acts have been deliberately time to reflect result of the general election will take place when we have the june referring to voices emanating from brussels and european commission's was is now saying that the date of the beginning of negotiations may change jeremy corbyn is elected thinks week what's your reaction well the british public the voting public in britain are being asked to make up their minds who is going to negotiate this very difficult agreement and my proposition to my constituents. the proposition which i think we face in britain is we need the best possible people to negotiate that tough agreement and in my view it is on daschle to reason
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may and david davis they are already very deeply immersed in all of this and i profoundly hope that it will be those two who are negotiating for britain after the eighth of june it doesn't make any difference to openly get a longer time to prepare the some of these utterances from the commission i think i'm helpful to everybody the date has been set eleven days after the election if the commission was to change that or if a different incoming government was to change that that is a matter for them maybe not in the killing of very uneven with the individuals which we in the general election campaign it's no emerging with the home office at all the british newspaper the inquiry under the aegis of then whom secretaries i'm a commissioned by david cameron into the funding of jihad islam is a group we know never be published is that because the resume has always supported saudi backed islamist groups some groups maybe even that are implicated in the
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mentions ritual today. i'm sure it is not and i can't possibly comment on that in any respect to talk because i have no knowledge of it but i think you are right the appalling atrocity. which is being condemned around the world was a terrible experience clearly for everyone it matched all those for involved but above all for the attack on innocent children and jawing on nights for which there can be no possible defense anywhere at any time yet but of course it's become an election issue because goulburn is related to foreign policy what do you make of the spectators peter oborne who's been on this show saying british citizens run down to the encourage you traveled to libya to fight in the civil war to get rid of gadhafi in the war of course supported by tourism well i don't think there were any encourage meant. people travel to libya those days i was in the cabinet at the time libya was an extremely dangerous place and the british intervention was
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a humanitarian intervention to save the lives of thousands of people in benghazi who faced a bloody massacre at the hands of gadhafi and that was the reason for what was essentially from britain a humanitarian intervention would have supported the rebels which is robel goes on to say we didn't cause you would have been a six terrorist suspects released from control due to restrain them. it was released by to resume to them travel to libya and back. as an outstanding british journalist and we live in an open country where these things are evaluated under hers but i'm in no doubt having been part of the cabinet the intervention in libya was right above all because it was a humanitarian intervention designed to save lives the failure at the end of the campaign to build a new libya was because the all the efforts of the international community under united nations leadership with very strong backing from britain came to nothing because there was no peace to stabilize and in order to have that sort of
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stabilization build a new stability you do require a peace which tragic you never materialized in libya so it was a tourism a wins that may destroy in that case it was the richest country in africa destroy the country was on the tourism and i think one of the first things that resume said when she became prime minister was that the era of interventions afghanistan and iraq those sort of interventions was over it was a point she emphasized in one of her first speeches and i don't see any reason why that policy is like change under mitchell thank you. another tory we spoke to after our interview on wednesday with labor's shadow chief secretary to the treasury was the defeated london mayor oral candidate zac goldsmith who is contesting his old seat of richmond park a key module constituency in southwest london in next week's general election thanks for being on going underground again we had the secretary of the treasury on
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recently and he said why is it the tories haven't published. the accounts for this manifesto they're putting forward to the british lecture at this election where he you have to ask him that question i wasn't responsible for getting the manifesto together i've a bottle here in richmond park move right down to the y. one of the few seats that will probably determine the outcome of this elections and my job is to try. ensure that i win here the reason i get the majority she needs because without that majority i don't see how she can i don't think she would easily be able to negotiate a proper grants and she supported usually in supporting it with a list of the candidates of the end of this segment to how helpful was a dimension tax in the or a chance to win you no doubt my view is that the policy was poorly explained and that this does no doubt has caused look just leninist policy taking the assets away from that thing that i think bush was a i think that it was poorly explained to such an extent that it became very easy for opponents to scam on and it was there's no doubt that there are people have
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knocked on doors and the people who believe that just simply by dint of being old are going to lose their homes the reality is that the proposal which is not a complete proposal does she make clear that the proposal is an improvement on the current situation at the moment you can lose everything down to a loss twenty three thousand if you end up in a cab of them under the proposals that in the manifesto you lose up to the last one hundred thousand pounds is more than four times better from that point of view there will be a cap i can't tell you what that cap will be i wish i could i'd love to be able to tell residents what that will be i imagine the cap will be around seventy to eighty thousand pounds which is more that's what the. proposals. suggested and i think there was a consensus more or less around that figure but it's not for me to predict because i don't know i think you're going to resume his chief of staff nick timothy's finished no i didn't and i think that this is i think the policy could have been better explained and i think the policy decision and the election you don't get everything right. and it's a it is a snap election it's
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a quick one but things like that do you have an absolute you haven't read every name in a political party that hasn't hasn't missed explained the policy at some point during a campaign what is there why is things like the need for voters to have id when they go to the polling booth why is that in the manifesto. have been that many. case is before and i don't see why it's such a controversial proposal i mean we need to. i think eventually we're going to move to different systems of voting in any case i think you probably have an electronic voting but before you can begin to move in that direction you've got to make sure that the opportunity pool is as close to eliminated as it's possible to be what about these changes in the manifesto from what minister said the man of his years as a radical welfare reform where is d.w.p. sector damian green only recently said no more welfare cuts what does it mean for the radical welfare reform doesn't necessarily mean cuts i mean those are two separate issues and i think that the majority of the reforms that are needed. have
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either done happened or they are happening now trying to create a universal system which makes it easier for people you know take the so-called bedroom tax for example rezin a little support for people who are on waiting lists to get homes but equally. you know there have been cases where people have wanted to change arms wanted to downsize have not been able to and it's still faced the penalty that's how the policy i'm certain that that is not what was intended by that policy said you know there's a does it as policies play out into improvement to find she needs to him and one of the jobs of an m.p. of a good m.p. at least is to pick up on where these things are happening take it back to ministers and law and find you and that is that is the job of any good m.p. regardless of what party they belong to predict the controversial bedroom tax but it's a use of words in the matter give us give you that example any of this is an example that people understand sure ok but in the manifesto it says for instance that i mean previously theresa may said no hard border between north and south out of my festers as fiction list a border as possible and what why these different i mean manifest to him what you
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as a man has been saying i think that's probably a reflection of the fact that we don't know what the final outcome of the brits gauche asians are going to look like and you know it's not that there is a maze holding the cards close to the chest it's a case that you know if i were negotiating with you to buy this bottle of water i mean i'd have an idea of what i'd pay you'd have no. what except that neither of us know where the three each of us is coming renegotiate that's what happens we want to have a situation where we have as clean a relationship between north more than on in the rest of on as possible what eventually looks like i don't know but it should be here that it shouldn't be hard border i don't know region of george osborne to any advisory role here because you always been slamming your immigration policy as economically illiterate i mean is and i'm not the person is recruiting advisers to government i wish i were of the kind of well we don't know what your role will but i will i can tell you that i macand she's going to campaigning for you here she persists it really matters and it matters a lot but i cannot so that kind of question clearly and i can i could you could i
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could guess but it would not be healthy to do so but you know even on immigration the thing that i think most people agree on in the party is that we need control of raw borders but there's a lot of discussion and even disagreement about what kind of immigration policy or what immigration policy should look like i mean my view is that the students learning has should not be included in the target i've always been i think we should have as many foreign students as possible so as a studying in egypt and universities. because i think they had to up the country that they had to stay here and do incredibly well they go home they form a little bridge between our countries and that's a healthy thing that's a difference of opinion rather people in the party who disagree very strongly that the parliament is a battle of ideas and i hope to be about a few days' time taking part in the back of ideas like elsewhere thank you very much other candidates in the richmond pa constituency etc only for the liberal democrats kate jewett of labor peter jewel of ukip will be speaking to a live demo candidate for twickenham vince cable this coming monday after the break
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britain's was terra trustees in seventy seven we all john pilger britain's foreign intelligence services were complicit in the magister attack all the symbol coming up of bob jones going underground. the outgoing american ambassador to russia has given a series of farewell interviews on the state of u.s. russia relations it all boils down to we have a problem and russia needs to fix it does blaming the other side stand a chance as a political strategist.
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welcome back ahead of next week's u.k. general election jeremy coleman is fending off accusations that he is a terrorist as well as a pacifist but the legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger has just written an article arguing that the causes of an atrocity commemorated tomorrow at the one love man just a concert in england are being suppressed to protect secrets of u.k. foreign policy the smoking gun he argues in terror in britain what did the prime minister know is that tourism a was british home secretary when libyan is the most group members were allowed to travel unhindered across europe john pilger his latest film is the coming war and china joins me now john thanks for coming on before we go on to the unsaleable as you say in your piece your reaction to the atrocity in afghanistan america's longest war it's horrific but predictable i mean the extraordinary thing about afghanistan but afghanistan was invaded on a lie the the devastation caused by the invasion in two thousand and one had this terrible ripple effect right across the country so
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here is one of the seven wars the longest war that the west now has fought in the modern era sixteen years one of barack obama's seven wars. and what britain is still with five hundred troops why and dad it was it was labor labor's war all will be had not well it wasn't he'd labor's war and it was it was very much tony blair's war it was one of his forepaws and gordon brown's war i mean the two parties in this country in terms of there are the. four for a foreign policy for those violent or sometimes indistinguishable well let's get to what theresa may said of the manchester atrocity as she said we struggled to comprehend it but we can continue. take on and defeat the ideology that often fuels
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this violence what do you make of what's razor make said well it doesn't make any sense because what the manchester atrocity. demonstrated as indeed the july the seventh two thousand and five bombing of the london underground demonstrated is that the rock of british foreign policy is briefly lifted and we see the cause and effect i mean it's no that's not an opinion you only have to look at the the. all the establishment. organizations from from chatham house right through to the joint intelligence committee. there is almost a unanimous unanimous understanding that what these atrocities like manchester and london in two thousand and five what they have it in common is that
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they are the product of british foreign policy of being where we shouldn't be and it's this basic truth and it is a truth that has become beyond sayable in this election the unsayable by to reason mehan the whom so able by germany colp and i mean jeremy coburn has said that the war on terror in his opinion has failed but even doing a little r. is cool been said that he was immediate use of us about excusing terror what links possible links if we look at it at the bench as your example take me can you trace between dres amazin secretary and the atrocity well for one thing this group the libyan islamic. fighting for l i f she has been in manchester for something like twenty years according to french and. elegans it was british intelligence the tried to get these so law office it's what hobbyists
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as they are in manchester to assassinate colonel gaddafi they are in play were implacably anti kadafi they were quite dangerous people some of them a number of them were under control orders and when in two thousand and eleven. the united states and france and britain and eventually nato invaded libya which they'd long planned to do anyway africa's largest producer of oil these to loftus wahabi is in manchester known as the manchester boys were told they could go to libya raise them a stamp there possible it's to allow them to go i do not i don't know i don't know whether she did that it doesn't work like that but it was the argument blair was and he used to argue well i didn't see it you know what jack straw said i didn't
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see it but they are the people ultimately responsible she was the home secretary and the interior minister. responsible for those control orders and they were lifted by m i five one of them to talk about going to heathrow airport where he's stopped by counterterrorism police and he gives them a name a number an m i five they call it he sits there white and they sell that fine fine off you go to battle. they want to do overthrow gadhafi and these people we use how do you think if it's in the debate he may have traveled to syria from as a british subject as well to support what in effect was the british position just to support the rebels that was the route through once gadhafi was overthrown. these people who now were. at the very least al qaeda affiliated were on their way to syria that was the next stop and so many of the libya the manchester boys if you
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like to use it you're never ended up in syria fighting the west war all fighting the west the efforts to wave the threat of the government of a sad he was the next one. these it's a complicated story most certainly but it has strands running through it and the strongest strand is the support of powerful western governments like the british government the u.s. government the french government for what they call assets for these terrorist assets if a baby was known to the authorities why was he able to do what he did and it's quite interesting to see that now we have. in contrast to a leak from the united states last year which caused a great deal of panic and wide hole that produced pictures of the apparent detonate at that use but now we've gone back to the original learned wolf spin. the police
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are saying to him it was just an ordinary criminal really paid the intel. i was gonna take no more no more than the hello everyone and almost certainly he built the bomb himself so the original spawn story which is so proud and transparently nonsense has been given to us again but when you look at the faces of the twenty two dead children in manchester you can truly understand why you can't compute in the heads of journalism the news room that even the possibility that when the baby could have been a british government asset well of course but when you look at the faces of children who have been bombed in some dusty rocky scabrous village in yemen lined up before they are buried can you then think that the cluster bombs or the hellfire missiles whatever killers
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children originated in this country. the product originated and the collaboration and we have in yemen now british military advisors in riyadh assisting the saudis with their bombing raids in yemen that is having a devastating effect on the children of that country all children all people have a right to life and i don't think there should be any discrimination but we need to find out why this terrible event with its devastating human consequences happened in manchester do you think juries of a obviously may have been home secretary when m i five allegedly dropped their investigation into the baby but then on the other hand presumably the intelligence they were going to go on that would say there are so many jihad is now in this country so many of them is in this country that therefore they don't have the time to follow anyone so don't come to any conclusions that the men just with what is they paid for if they don't if they have the don't have the time. i mean they are
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a security organization. this l.-i f.-e. group has been around for some plague like twenty years but it is it's a strategy of been it's absolutely perscribe it is asia by look or just government describes prescriptivist private and describes it it's a it is wanting to build this extreme islamic state across the world and that it follows is inspired by al qaida suggests it's probably now inspired some of the members inspired by isis who knows bot. the point was that this community from which it appears it appears and we are not absolutely certain that some on the bt came was well known to the security services in britain. and. certainly some of those who went to libya in two thousand and eleven were
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encouraged to do so. by the security services because the aim was to overthrow gadhafi and that happened when david cameron went there and all the crowds were cheering among those crowds no doubt with some of the the man just the boys there are a lot of al qaeda inspired people there as well and many of those people were trained by the british s.a.'s. this web of collaboration for oxy power in the middle east invariably will produce this kind of violence and what we've seen since nine eleven is that the violence has come home and it's come home not only to the united states it's come home to this country it is very briefly no one got into trouble for british funding of al qaeda majid dean in afghanistan do you expect anyone to get into trouble the british funding of what is the mists that ended up i would not just reference i
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mean the british role in afghanistan was was virtually the beginning of the british role in operation cycle which which was devised by zubrzycki who was president carter's so-called national security adviser and in the end through the copper and reagan is these these the fanatics the mujahideen the creation of. a kind of support structure for extremism that would would work on behalf of western powers got something like five hundred million dollars from the united states we know that to be true and we also know that the british security services were deeply involved all across afghanistan. right through right up to the the western invasion and two thousand and one and then beyond that . and we have to take responsibility for it but it has to be debated like we're
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doing now it has to be discussed. we can't walk around with hands over i was. it's absurd that the people who died in manchester and the people who died on the london underground and the people who died in the twin towers were almost children in the am i'm not gonna be all that does a better job thank you. hope you enjoyed that requested favorite show from the latest season of going underground we'll be back with another great season of going underground on saturday the second of september but till then keep in touch by social media will still be reading lol your communication with the team.
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on the beverly hillbillies the t.v. show. the family tree came from bubbling crude oil that is black. while in the opening credits that t.v. show they show the beverly hills mansion and that mansion has just traded in the market and took a huge discount many many many millions of dollars and it's poetic justice jed clampett the original oil baron in los angeles his mansion is getting hammered in the market so obviously it's not working anymore.
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more children from baghdad all finished helping to find their relatives we also bring you a report on the struggles of children in mortal. abuses there are a lot of trafficking. for. any danger that children are exposed to. plus a russian journalist working for the country's channel portage from ukraine a security services border this will happen to anyone and to ukrainian. germany's foreign minister says it is time to kick america's nuclear weapons out of
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his country issues one of several that have emerged in the run up to the german general election. very good evening to you my name is. and. the battle to force islamic state from war torn iraq has devastated civilian lives particularly those of children continuing his campaign to find the relatives of children abandoned by their parents fighting for. more of these children from mosul were recently brought to a baghdad orphanage. and they're coming to see you. and you. will be especially.
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this. new you know scum is good. and you will change the story. this girl's name is her foot was badly burned a boy is called my he has a knee injury both children are still under a lot of stress they refused to talk but the kids who were with them say that they are from chechnya if you think you might recognize either of them please to get in touch with his own children r t t v dot com. america's the take so that now the problems children face in war torn iraq. these children have seen more bloodshed and agony than most adults will in a lifetime nearly ninety percent of children have lost a member of a family either they were kidnapped or killed and when they were escaping from the
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fight many of them have lost family members they were shot at from behind or when they were falling on booby traps it has been a horrible experience. so this helicopter flies around. dropping down on the floor and some of them my some of them feel when they see for a mess some of them feel when they see you know people that they are not comfortable in with some of them shut up and say no what for quite a long time until they could act what opened up definitely they call the extreme distress and also physically unfortunately many of them are wounded. many of the hospitals as we visit confirm that. the biggest number of civilians they have in the hospitals are children traumatized in mind and body but alive
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lucky by local standards though let's be frank stuck in orphanages and refugee camps in iraq and you believe given the sheer magnitude of the problem thousands and thousands of orphans are little. do you believe you can adequately help them we are helping those sold and we we see certainly we don't have enough resources the children are almost everywhere but ultimately the support comes from family from government and the extended family that once we connect children they are everybody scheme to receive them and the support of the problem is made. king the connection all of these orphans iraq so many a foreign children of isis fighters. and how big it is much better a foreign children were reunited with their families they will have problems here
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with documents in schools with health care they need their families love problems is putting it lightly in iraq tribal culture venerates blood feuds and revenge isis harmed millions there are those who would use these children who hate them for what their parents did. vulnerable for all abuse they are vulnerable for trafficking. or for. any danger that children exposed to in today's technology any. bad group. could get those children and harmed them some of these lost children a raped their assaulted abused and abandoned killed for their organs hated for the sins of their fathers the un and uni said do what they can to protect them
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but there are too many getting them out is a reward unto itself. we helped identify and reunite a number of these shoulder and yet it isn't straightforward uni set for example once these kids identities protected fearing stigma or exploitation we know we tell our children. if we do not allow our children to normalize tensions that we do not know how do we think of allowing a child that have gone. crisis is. becoming it's a hard choice you can show their faces for everyone to see and let their relatives recognize them or pray that they find themselves one desperate young
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refugee among the rocks millions more i guess. for many be iraq across the border in syria the battle for eisel to fight capital there is also taking a toll on civilians the un's under-secretary general for humanitarian affairs says that dozens of civilians are likely being killed each day the u.n. estimates that's an average of twenty seven people are being killed in iraq every day up to twenty five thousand civilians still remain trapped in the city and they're increasingly exposed to the crossfire of the ongoing fighting they risk being killed either by airstrikes. eisel snipers or mines if they try to flee. operation to liberate iraq being assisted by us power we spoke to locals who flee from the fighting here's how they described the situation one of the planes bombed
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us heavily this happened in downtown mission that ended around i still slaughtering people that as many were killed and houses were destroyed in a coalition shelling targets civilians hit civilians four story houses full of people all over the neighborhood certainly many have been killed among the my cousin died in rock in an airstrike in the war situation it's very difficult to protect all civilians but they are striking to keep it especially when it is not targeted accurately eat it does create huge casualties and destruction when the civilians especially in urban areas we are seeing casualties every day and more and more people dying and we don't even know who they are in the we know the we seem to be journalists and soldier guys running these we
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were being afghan song the our group anywhere else but we don't even know the numbers the civilians will carry it really in houses and there's of thousands and this is really the sort of this craze for. ukraine security services say that the russian journalist has now been forcibly deported from their country twenty nine year old. who works for russia's channel one that is based in kiev received death threats because of her work within the culture has the details. russian channel one said that anna was taken right in the streets by a group of unknown man all contact with her was the last stand the channel had no information regarding her whereabouts. literally disappeared in central kiev she was alone and was heading home when she was detained by two men would take them into a car and driven away that's according to eyewitnesses she received threats and
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insults and you only managed to do three reports she arrived in ukraine and. now ukraine security services claimed that everything was conducted according to the law and also in a statement that was released. this meaning different taishan will happen to go person who they see as someone smearing ukraine so basically everyone whose position they do not agree with now a few words sound the background of fun acquitted by the way she is a russian journalist born and the south and russian says she of. and her last support said that were based on the current situation in ukraine it was also revealed that soon before she was teens she received threats and just a few days earlier her name was added to the database of the website peacekeeper now this website publishes personal data which is almost always so pertain to
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illegally anyone the people behind the website or its contribute to this consider enemies ukraine now this website has cost some controversy and the past at least two ukrainian public were killed days after their home addresses were published by this website by a peacekeeper. well journalists covering ukraine have been deported before for example two spanish journalists were reportedly sent home just last week i mean one the last few months two journalists working for russian channels they were also deported for allegedly gathering info and for negative coverage well its national organizations have repeatedly called on kiev to revise its policy towards journalists following wednesday's case the organization for security and cooperation in europe called on ukraine not to arrest or deport journalists from other states earlier this month the committee to protect journalists called on the country to encourage different points of view you are ceasefire designed to enable
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children to return to school has been violated in east ukraine was agreed by the world parties on august twenty fifth ahead of the new academic year starting in two days and the russian foreign ministry condemned violations saying provocative fire is coming from ukrainian forces and it calls on kiev to abide by a cease fire and expressed hope that all measures will be taken to ensure peace on the ground. now a new report by swedish police says that there's been a dramatic increase in so-called no go zones across the country during the last two years the number of what swedish officials have called vulnerable areas has now reached sixty one also of the five thousand criminals are believed to be living in the making of some of the two hundred criminal networks currently active that the
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problems in all of the districts which are heavily populated by migrants remain the same. they sell drugs openly they carry weapons i have heard that there are so many weapons in kissed that they could take over accused in a few hours. there has been quite a lot of shooting very brutal mistreatment of entrepreneurs' a lot of property. that.
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we need to make clear shift in direction we cannot continue in this direction ten more years so cited needs to do more we need to do more we need to focus on the serious here the problem is that cultural differences and that these immigrants who come to sweden to not want to integrate or some of them don't want to integrate we see this in is facially many of european countries where they have taken a lot of immigrants we don't see it in for example poland. but in germany in this country where i live in denmark we also have not in copenhagen for example and there in sweden also so especially in the places where they have taken in the not enough democrats if we see these problems also in france and belgium and in
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sweden in government people didn't want to admit that this is. ashley of property so did don't want to mention. no goal some say there's no calls from. the u.n. secretary general antonio good tourist says that he hasn't seen a humanitarian crisis like the one in gaza for years obviously picks up the story. yesterday i was in the rubble of two very very limited hours unfortunately to witness one of the most dramatic humanitarian crises that i have seen the many years working as a humanitarian aid in the united nations the un chief after spending several hours in gaza on wednesday has called on the israeli authorities to lift the siege that has been in place on the coast along clave for the better part of ten years and the visit by the un chief comes amid
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a spike of tensions between israel and the united nations earlier this week the israeli deputy foreign minister warned that if the united nations did not change what she perceives as a bias against israel or there is what would stop its funding and support of the international body but the israelis are not completely blameless with evolution one eight six zero course for an immediate cease fire in gaza that would see a full israeli withdrawal would lead to food fuel and medical supplies being allowed into gaza this is not the case there is a dire humanitarian situation inside gaza as we heard from the un chief and at the same time there are thousands of people who are prevented from exiting gaza to receive much needed medical care on the israeli side there is a twenty year old boy who we caught up with who is suffering from chronic heart disease who for seven months has been refused permission to leave the coastal enclave. my sicknesses tightness in the aorta valve it's a chronic disease and
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a congenital defect the referral procedure is very important because i must leave to have open heart surgery and replace the defective models with helen from february until now we've applied monthly to get his permit he was supposed to have his surgery in february his muscle has to stay strong if it weakens you will be in serious condition he will not be able to have any surgery after that gaza is often referred to by people living there as the largest. present in the world a place where people are deprived of basic needs. dozens of people have taken to the streets of paris protesting against the president a manual micron's new labor law which is intended to make it easier for companies to hire and fire workers for a recent poll found that sixty percent of french people are worried by the proposed proposed changes demonstrators are also outraged by matter of labor minister namely a multi-millionaire who may argue doesn't have workers interests at heart muriel
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penick oh isn't the only controversial face in the french cabinet also on the question of the ministerial credentials of a naturalized publisher of belgian origin and an early pick medalist is artie shaw that reports the protesters think the mantra is failing to represent the people. but the demonstrators have come out again in front to show how unhappy they are with emanuel not once planning perform on the working code they have been shouting that they will resist those with the intent to which we do to find out in france on thursday they have described a manual my own as being a man who only supports business i once took the rights of look at this is what people have been saying to us said that. if you tax work and the workers were against it because as it has no
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a show now we can share the work. represents the big bosses and those who want to cup public services social protections and everything achieved by workers turns agree with that. it's about ideology to be able to sound. in fact he wants to get rid of employee protections all together it's a big attack of the hierarchy corporate deals will now take over those are some of the reasons why the demonstrators hey i feel so passionately against these reforms to the working code but not everybody is unhappy with the plans to reform the working through the front. suggested. as well have more ability to hire and fire people to negotiate over salary in terms of additional hours that people work and that's why the heads of the employers federation has actually come out not just in support of this reform but is actually
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a manual matter going to go when he introduces that working reform some people have described this as being a bellwether for my presidency because this is his first major attempt to pass a big piece of legislation here in fronts but precesses have failed. still remains to be seen whether michael will be able despite his continuing plunging popularity in the party in the polls to be able to push this reform through and to appease the french people so much. see paris. america's brown university part of the country's ivy league his long mate fixing historical injustice is one of its key priorities but now it found itself on the defensive after native american set up a protest site on its campus they claim the university occupied lands stolen from that tribe hundreds of years ago and now they wanted back.
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people think that. without permission they would take the communities they were taking. i. we've done everything possible. to the powers that be. were just in vis a vis the. brown university says that it has warm relations with local indigenous tribes raising awareness of minority group issues during annual meetings and making headlines after renaming the columbus day federal holiday to indigenous
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peoples day last year however the university is refusing to yield to the tribes demands. the pa cannot get tribe is not recognized by the federal government or more importantly by the other federally recognized indigenous communities there is an important technical difference between holding need of ancestry and holding nation status and that is at the heart of the issue here tribe members have been staying put in the camp for more than a week now they pledged to stay on as their case goes to court the co-founder of the code pink activist group thinks the university's progressive talk is just a facade talk is cheap in. the in thing now or corporations university. sports associations to talk that talk about how progressive they are to adapt the language. but when their call is for land to be given back or poor reparations to be
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made for slavery or anything that involves actual financial restitution that's where the line crossed. germany's foreign minister says that he'd like to see american nuclear weapons removed from his country. made that statement during his visit to washington where he met with is u.s. counterpart rex tillerson ought to speak to all of it has more but we saw on this visit this official visit to the united states by is it mark gabriele was right at the very end he came out and he said that he would fully support what martin shultz has said in the past that u.s. nuclear weapons it's time to open a dialogue about getting them off german soil of course i'm convinced that we need to finally start talking about arms control and disarmament once again in this regard i agree with mr shultz is point that we need to get rid of the nuclear
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weapons that are stationed in our country. well it's understood that there are around twenty u.s. nuclear warheads in germany based in the southwest of the country and just last week the candidate for chancellor martin shultz the former european parliament president of course was down in turkey have it right in the southwest of the country giving a speech about how it was time to get rid of these nuclear weapons we can hear what he had to say right now is. true of the nuclear weapons currently stationed in germany well sigma gabrial has said on defense in the past that the us is demands for a two percent of g.d.p. payment by all nato members with unrealistic for germany and it does seem that along with martin short they're pushing this no nukes policy really because it's one of the few ones that they can really go with the german chancellor
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on the s.p. day the closest rivals to angola merkel currently trailed by around fourteen points if you look at the latest opinion polls in nuclear weapons is really the only position that they can attack angela merkel on the german chancellor is accused in some circles here in germany of following the american line far too closely particularly when it comes to nuclear weapons and the esprit de want to set themselves aside in doing so they've got to put themselves in line with what has the party of peace really is how they're going to try and market themselves with just under a month to go before the german parliamentary elections take place here they're really far behind they're going to have to push very hard over the coming weeks if they're going to try and topple angola merkel from her position as german chancellor. joining me now live from berlin and seraph's back from the german branch of war resisters international also what you think the s.p.d.
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and the leaders there are trying to achieve with this. well actually actually i see some of what they're doing is genuine. there is a long tradition in the s.p.d. . sometimes going against what the us wants that was true in part with the iraq war was true before with willie brown in his detente attempts with russia and of course they are playing to the huge. pacifist sentiment in germany that's against war against atomic weapons and the s.p.d. already at the end of june did the same with weaponized drones they decided to vote not to approve. weaponized drones from israel on the grounds that they had weapons on them that they were going to purchase for the military so we don't know of course this is election time maneuvering but there could be more to it do you think
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see the situation. with the current chancellor as you will she have to change your approach towards military cooperation with the united states well actually chancellor merkel has also on a few occasions said no to the u.s. for example when president obama wanted was talking about having weapons bring weapons to the ukraine situation she said no they didn't go along with the strikes on libya for example but i think she's less likely to do so then the social democratic party the s.p.d. and of course then you have the two opposition parties the smaller opposition parties the green party and the left party the left party is very firm on its positions against work. what about the fine donald trump is demanding two percent of g.d.p. be contributed towards military spending i know that's quite
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a lot of people in germany will be a big issue come the elections. i think it will also be an issue again we never know whether peace issues are enough to actually change the vote significantly we do know that during elections politicians all over the world certainly in the us talk peace and later they don't follow follow that sometimes once they are elected. but i think this is an issue most germans do not want to spend that much on military and just getting back finally again to what the foreign minister asked for is it possible how hard would it be to remove u.s. nuclear weapons from the country. oh. i would have to be a fortune teller to know that exactly we don't know what kind of pressures the u.s. would bring to bear but the first step would be of course to say clearly the german government to say we want you to remove these weapons and then we don't know what
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kinds of things might go on what kinds of threats even the two german companies on wall street some people would be worried here but i think it has to be tried i think it's time to end the nuclear weapons development and to end the threat of nuclear war and above all i hope the s.p.d. will also join in the call to sign on to the nuclear agreement that is being negotiated in the united nations so far germany has not signed on to even enter those negation negotiations so i think it would be also be a good signal if they did that. good to get you we appreciate you coming on all exceeds international i guess they'll respond she's from the german branch of will resist is international. thank you guys for staying with a saving of about the very latest news headlines.
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hello and welcome to cross talk were all things considered peter lavelle fifty years ago the american naval vessel u.s.s. liberty was brutally attacked by israeli forces the attack on the liberty was one of the worst assaults ever carried out on a u.s. naval vessel in peacetime and committed by an allied country since then the survivors of this unprovoked attack have been seeking justice. crosstalk in the u.s.s. liberty i'm joined by my guest ken o'keefe in new york he is a political analyst and the ex u.s. marine who renounced us citizenship in greenville we have philip nelson he is the primary author of remember the liberty as well as author of two books on lyndon johnson and in lake jackson we cross to daniel mcadams he is the executive director
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of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate phil if i can go to you holding the book there in greenville you've written about this. just real quickly i know it's a there's a lot of detail in the book is been told is very good but a lot of our viewers have never ever heard of this event so could you in a nutshell tell us what happened fifty years ago in the mediterranean go ahead. well it's a long story and i'll try to condense it as best i can but it had to do with an attack that had been preplanned i believe for many months maybe two years in the planning yet it was it was portrayed as being a spontaneous war and that egypt had attacked israel. that was anything but the truth and and in fact since then most of the subsequent leaders of israel admitted
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that menachem begin for example admitted that others you talk are being admitted that that it was that it had been provoked by israel against syria jordan and egypt for many months the us everything came off the track when when the war commenced ten days earlier it was scheduled had been scheduled for months to start on june the fifteenth it started on june the fifth because of all these provocations that works so effectively there was beyond there expects spectator ok ok ok but let's let's talk about the attack itself what happened how this ship was attacked by israelis give this you know five major points what happened on that day go ahead ok on that on that day after surveilling the ship for several hours about six or seven hours starting at six in the morning. up to
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thirteen at least twelve or thirteen overflights of the ship some as low as a thousand feet. by by different israeli aircraft. they were doing that for a purpose and i believe the purpose was to map out exactly where the strategy we're told that is what what vulnerable points ok additional before and how we're going on ok phil phil i want to get i want to get everybody in here because we got a lot to talk about here ken phillips the expert on what happened here but you know again i want to stress here that this assault in peace time by alleged ally on an american naval vessel it's not part of popular culture or popular common knowledge and then there's a reason for that isn't that true go ahead ken. what yes if we could just recap briefly this attack took place over two hours on
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a clear blue sunny day this ship was an allied ship of israel the united states had been supporting israel hand and foot to that point so when the israelis were doing their overflights all the americans were waving to the israeli jets to the point they could actually see the pilots in the cockpits they were that close this attack occurred over about a two hour period thousands of rounds were fired fifty caliber machine gun napalm rockets they were brought in submarine they brought in torpedoes i believe four torpedoes were fired at the u.s.s. liberty one of them hit it was an act of god that the captain managed to avoid three of the others if that one torpedo would hit fifteen inches over it would have hit the boiler room and that entire ship would have song another aspect of this is a blatant war crime whereby when the captain actually gave the order to abandon ship all of the life rafts that were launched in the water were shot out of the water by the israelis that is a patent war crime the real objective here was to frame egypt for having been responsible for this attack to kill every single member of that ship over two
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hundred and ultimately because they were not able to sink the ship the phantom jets that had been launched towards cairo which were nuclear armed were not able to be used but make no mistake about it i believe having read many of the details of this and read filled toney's actually book what i saw all that day that it is absolutely clear that the only thing that saved us from world war three at that time was the fact that ship did not sink and there were witnesses and it also brings a very interesting subject about a russian ship that was in the area and may very well have staved off the sinking of the ship as well call this a late an attack it was a false flag and it didn't go according to plan but daniel you know wouldn't when it's ever mentioned that read an article and how it's just a few days ago it was a mistake it was an honest mistake that's what he's being fed to publics right now whenever it cut pops up go ahead daniel. certainly that's the word that came down from l.b.j. on down the you know the commission of inquiry the court of inquiry was told before
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the investigation what the conclusion was to be and i think he was quoted at least maybe apocryphally saying i'm not going to go to war or embarrass an ally for a few sailors so that was obviously from the top on down you know admiral admiral mccain the father of our great senator from arizona was obviously was involved in the coverup as well but make a good point earlier most of america doesn't know what happened i have to be honest i have to confess i didn't know anything about it until i was up on the hill probably fifteen years ago and someone dropped off a v.h.s. how old it was yet what happened i put off watching it for a while because i had no idea what this was all about when you finally do watch and get the whole story it's extremely compelling why is it i mean it for me this is been a conspiracy of silence for fifty years i mean i know that you've worked with survivors i mean and philip giraldi and ray mcgovern you write eloquently about it and i'm very thankful for them but you know you guys are having
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a hard time getting your story out it's amazing go ahead fill. ok well the reason for that was because of the cover up there was a media immediately in vote by president johnson directing it to the joint chiefs to robert mcnamara to. john mccain the second the father of the center and it was so effectively and so brutally enforced all of the survivors were threatened with prison time if if they said a word about it to anybody including their wives their mothers their fathers and anybody and right immediately after the attack after they were all they managed to survive this they were all dispersed throughout the world on different ships so that no two of them would be together anywhere and they were watched very closely to be sure that they did talk and that that cover up still persists today that's the reason that ninety eight percent of the people have never heard of it and those
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who do have generally accepted the canard that it was was just an accident it was not never an actual can't plan for at least two years one of the interesting things ken is that the us s. liberty is the most decorated ship i think in an american naval history they gave them all the awards all the acolytes but they did it in secret they did it behind closed doors i mean they got these they got some kind of recognition but absolutely zero public recognition because the true story would come out this is not a mistake this was an intentional attack and the implications of that attack we feel to this very moment go ahead ken. yes indeed and there are court transcripts there are transcripts of tapes between the israeli pilots and the command centers in israel in which the israeli pilots are actually squashed i mean the orders which are to attack because they understand very clearly that they are attacking an
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american ship and the orders are repeated by the command centers in israel to indeed attack the ship there is no accident here and where this becomes really relevant is that for a long time israel and the jewish supremacists how would it say tannic mass media that we have which pushes agendas like weapons of mass destruction which results in the death of a million to two million people in iraq a country completely devastated that same power structure remains in place from one nine hundred sixty seven to this day and the cover up of nine eleven and israeli mossad agents involved in nine eleven which is indisputable by any serious investigation remains the same in the real point here is that israel can do anything including murdering thirty four american service members in cold blood and attempting to murder every single member of the u.s.s. liberty so as to justify a policy which would have sucked american sons and daughters into a third world war because israel does not have the integrity nor the courage or any kind of author whatsoever to go and attack its enemies itself it uses america and continues to use america as lambs to go off and fight their wars so that israel can
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expand this is the bigger issue and the u.s.s. liberty as long as the american people refuse to face this and actually make sure that justice is served we're going to continue to get more of the same but these false flag endeavors to sacrifice more and more americans and let us not forget the twenty two american service members a day that commits suicide because they've been sent off to fight israeli wars and you know daniel and when i when i understand the lyndon johnson's reaction the president the time he was a coward he was simply a coward. he was a politicians don't take extra that say saudi arabia that's a repetitive yeah go ahead. but you know there is their business unfortunate taint you know and i think it's one way of keeping the conspiracy of silence there's a taint of some sort of anti semitism if you bring it up you know i just met a liberty survivor in april he was at one of our conferences here and you know this man had not an anti-semitic bone in his body what he cared about when the people he
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served with on that ship when he cared about is having some a good knowledge meant of what happened some validation of their experiences for the historical record to be corrected that's what he's looking for and that's what's normal and that's the grotesqueness of this entire cover up is because it didn't allow these soldiers and these sailors to have closure that's why they suffer from p.t.s.d. times one hundred they couldn't even talk to their wives about it and that's the most cruel injustice i think of all ok gentlemen to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the attack on the u.s.s. liberty fifty years ago stay with our team. welcome to the wonderful world of blood donation i come here every three weeks to get my
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here's what people have been saying about exactly the same people on. the only show i go out of my way to you know what it is that really packs them. yap is the john oliver of r t americans do the same. apparently better than. i see anybody had ever heard of love back to the night. president of the world bank they . were. seriously send us an e-mail. welcome back to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the attack on the u.s.s. liberty fifty years ago.
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ok phil i'd like to go back to you in greenville it seems to me and correct me if i'm wrong that the the us turning a blind eye to this gross injustice done to the sailors of the u.s.s. liberty that night it's seems to me an interesting point of departure because we have seen how the israeli lobby influences american foreign policy actually even drives that some people would say in the middle east so if you can get away with committing murder and i think that on the face but that's exactly what it was committing murder and you can get away with it you can get away with just about anything else go ahead phil well that's true and it's obviously an atrocity that come out be forgiven in any way but it's important to for me to stress the fact that all of the other books ever written about the liberty. sort of skipped over the involvement of lyndon johnson and our book does not do that pen's much of
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the responsibility on him i believe that having surrounded himself with with very overly zealous zionists as advisors. knew numerous men i'm not going to name all of them they're all in the book of course but. i believe that they that he through them and their counterparts in israel had planned this action for up to two years and i believe that the sinking of the liberty was was a piece that johnson personally and vote i believe that it was all driven by his desire to have another landslide election the following year in one hundred sixty eight just as he used the previous false flag attack in one thousand nine hundred sixty four called the gulf of tonkin as a means to ensure himself
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a landslide election in that year that that's what this was about for him i think that no one has ever produced any kind of rationale that that that israel could possibly benefit from such an attack a lot of things have been projected in that article you one of you mentioned and horowitz just two or three days ago. it was written by by people who and quoting michael oren who had been the previous ambassador from israel to the u.s. . he had written a book as well as a jay cristol both of them are filled with the lies and deceit that were planted at johnson's order fifty years ago. and i'm going to go here i'm not understanding the product. can i please ask are you are you suggesting are you suggesting that israel
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was simply manipulated by lyndon johnson and that israel wasn't very much having a huge interest in getting america into a fight with egypt are you concluding that lyndon johnson manipulated israel or am i mistaken here forgive me if i am. i believe that that part of it was was primarily advanced by johnson and johnson himself for his own personal reasons the by the way you have you have to remember that it was the fourth day of a six day war the war was essentially over that already beaten egypt they were they were having peace negotiations at the un well i mean phil you're the expert on it but it really is a lot of people would say is that taking out the u.s. is u.s.s. liberty we didn't die the americans knowing exactly what the israelis intended to do as that war was coming to an end ok and like taking illegally seizing arab territory palestinian territory the golan heights i mean there was
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a lot of the israelis didn't want washington to be listening to what their plans were at all it seems to me logic would dictate that. ok let me go to daniel didn't i really i could and i have to well that is a theory that has been proposed ok i'm right and there are others and daniel let me go to you again i kind of want to stress you know that this is kind of a ground zero moment here because ever since one thousand and sixty seven we've been able to see you know it's wag the dog dog i mean our eyes do not understand the how america benefits from its bizarre close relationship with israel what does the u.s. get out of it what has it ever got out of it except for a lot of pain a lot of blood and a lot of wasted treasury go ahead daniel. well unfortunately you're right i mean the liberty liberty attack was sort of ground zero and what has become a very unhealthy relationship between the u.s. and israel it's
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a one sided relationship as you point out what i think the israelis are in that if they can do something like this go test with impunity they can do literally almost anything and unfortunately i would blame israel less than i would blame the cowards in congress the cowards in the administration the cowards in the media who are too afraid to question this for fear of being tarnished with some bad words they're afraid to do this you know members of congress have said behind the scenes you know gosh israel lobby is so strong they'll never go out in public and say you know it's it's it's something that's top six on our own government and i think that's where the focus should be why are they so afraid you know they might lose their job they might get voted out of office you know it's pathetic you know you know can i i i seem to recall the congressman running for reelection saying you could never be too pro israel in a congressional election i think he's probably right. listen i really need to
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may pay my respects to the u.s.s. liberty survivor's guilt or any and all of those who know damn well that that attack was carried out by israel and i don't and i for one second that lyndon baines johnson is a first class traitor on many levels and a pervert to boot so i'm not in any way defending that traitor however to suggest that lyndon baines johnson manipulated the israelis into wooden tack for his own personal gains is insulting and absolutely contrary to the facts as i mentioned earlier their radio transcripts which are now a matter of public record in which the israeli pilots themselves are saying or questioning the order to attack what is clearly an american ship and the order is repeated to attack that ship so please don't tell me or anybody else that lyndon baines johnson manipulated that it is insulting now i'd like to get back to another point as well which is that of course as soon as we talk about the jewish state of israel and the jewish supremacists talmudic ideology which effectively pits all of
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us the rest of us the glory as cattle to be used and we look at the actual pattern the lavon affair the u.s.s. liberty and direct direct involvement in nine eleven in fact it was a joint operation between us intelligence and military and its rating mossad agents lists audience who were arrested on the day with explosives in their bands celebrating and high fives all of this on record israel has continued to get away with their false flag but if you asians in order to use american sons and daughters as cattle to be sacrificed for their wars and i really seriously resent the idea that lyndon baines johnson did this and manipulated israel i find that really disgusting and borderline treasonous myself no serious historian can seriously put that board and i imagine that book has one hell of a lot of tap dancing in it if indeed that's what it says phil not i don't know what percentage of the documents that have been released do you see that ever happening were yourself another. writers would have access to more of the documents because
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it because it's made a long conspiracy i know that in two thousand and three that there was some kind of investigation it was admiral moore that was involved with that i mean when with do you think the public will ever have access to that or are you even convinced those documents even exist anymore well there was one document that does exist and it was discovered by accident by james innes when he was at the l.b.j. library of all places. which which was a document dated april the twenty seventh of one nine hundred sixty seven almost two months before the attack the clearly showed that that operation the larger operation not the attack on the liberty but the plans for the six day war which was called front let six fifteen were discussed and somehow that document was misplaced and a virtually put into a file the liberty file that was at the l.b.j. library and missed by everybody until about nine hundred eighty eight when james
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arness discovered it he showed it on that video the b.b.c. video dead in the water and it shows that that that committee the three zero three committee it was called was discussing. the operation and that someone noted on that memo memorandum. it was it was basically the minutes of this meeting. handwritten on there is that there would be a submarine and u.a.r. waters united arab republic that's egypt. and so how that is positive proof that there was there was something on the agenda that was a continuing agenda item and who knows for how long because the rest of the documents have never been. released probably never will be. and and it hides the fact that it was that three o three committee headed up by walter ross now and there were
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a number of other people of course this have the cia helms mcnamara they were all on this committee it doesn't mean necessarily that this other piece of it the u.s.s. liberty attack was was ever known to all of the people in that committee but certainly some must have and then he had to let's talk about no it said i have no idea is in the other the other the other where we're rapidly running out of time here daniel. what do you think give me your assessment here let's say somebody in middle america is flipping the stations and they suddenly see us talking about this what do you think the average response will be they'll probably think it's a movie or a docu drama i suppose go ahead daniel well they probably won't see it because trying to prevent arche from being seen in the in middle america but if they did they probably feel they were in a minefield that something that they've never heard before and you know that's what
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makes it such an unhealthy relationship that we can't talk about these things in a rational way the issue is we are still seeing the same players in the same place today and see israel doing cross border attacks on the syrian army in defense of in offense and defense devices we see the u.s. and russia playing that we see us being on the verge of world war three once again that's why it's important for us to look back objective lee on its three and take a lesson from that so that we can survive you know into the next year without a world war and that's what i'm of what i'm afraid is not happening. ok gentlemen we've run out of time here i want to speak to directly to all the survivors of the u.s.s. liberty and their families i'm very happy we made this program and i hope it gives you a little bit of comfort many thanks to my guests a new york greenville and unlink jackson and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember.
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