ok. greetings and salutation. as you know our watchers this week we saw north korea test launch a ballistic missile that flew directly over the japanese island of hockey to its action brought condemnation from the world over including the united nations' own security council as well it should. but but there was one rocket launch in august that didn't receive nearly the press or condemnation but probably should have given its payload and that was the united states test flight involving b.

sixty one dash twelve and what is b. sixty one dash well as well tragically it's not your favorite vitamin and who it is the most dangerous nuclear bomb in his story yes in history featuring an adjustable payload yield that can jump from the equivalent of three hundred tons of t.n.t. to fifty thousand tons of t.n.t. who just a little doozy just took a joyride from the nellis air force base to the tone pot test range in the battle in an effort to test its non nuclear function is a lovely very lovely but no good story about bombs would be complete without some mercenaries after all bombs and mercenaries and burst nerves go together like mint jelly and lamb chops. and interstage right erik prince yes the founder of the controversial blackwater mercenary force that came in the in came into implemented during the u.s. occupation of iraq took he took to the new york times editorial pages on wednesday

to make the case for a mercenary sorry contractor plan for winning the war in afghanistan writing faced with two choices pulling out entirely or staying the course i argued strongly for a new approach a third path and they bet you can't guess what the prince of mercenaries recommended third path. my proposal is for a sustained footprint of two thousand american special operations and support personnel as well as a contractor you know less than six thousand people so in this world of rising temperatures and rising tensions what do what are we offering the world. the killer bomb was a mercenary forces. sword so let's let's let's bring a little sanity back into the game and start watching the whole. you. know what it . looks like the real thing is what. lies at the

bottom. like you but i got. to. believe that. well below are the words of the hawks i am tired rolled her up and i'm having a wallace with a two thousand military six thousand six thousand mercenaries what you think well a great plan and a great plan it's costly little but i think it's incredibly costly and i don't think that the united states citizens and innocent civilians in afghanistan are going to benefit from this but i think erik prince is going to benefit from it considering you know a mercenary makes at least a hundred thousand dollars a year and he's making between ten and twenty percent of that is a kickback from the united states government so we have six thousand we're talking

about at least six hundred million dollars every year just. so a billion dollars a year and if erik prince gets ten twenty percent of that it's great for erik prince however not actually great for what's going on in afghanistan yeah i mean i look at it like this eric says look you know he's making the argument that look we can do more of the same which is basically what the pentagon has trouble doing is just you know throw more troops in there and throw more than a few more that's more of the same and he's going to making this argument that look you could put a smaller amount of people in there majority of them mercenaries and we can you know work with the afghan infrastructure there and actually get the job done of disrupting terrorism which yeah eric that might work but i got a better option and even better option than the other ones put on the table how about we just leave oh you just say you know the american adventure in afghanistan just isn't worth it anymore and let's go but we can't do that because of you know

minerals and poppy fields and all the other funny things over there that we need to kind of quote unquote protect yes. erica also but i'm sure this one to you said he and what i loved about his editorials he never kind of brought up his own interests in this it was more like yeah my great ideas just go he's a culture and he also says that you know supplemental air force in afghanistan you know flown with the afghan markings. it would include a contractor safety pilot next to the afghan pilot but all the decision making in that plane would be done by the pilot not the contractor. but whatever kind of fails to mention in his that is again. he kind of has his own air force you know air for and he got in trouble freezing you know jeremy scahill exposed the burns was building a private airport in the intercept in a very good very good article so again this is more of you know aerial benefit money yeah yeah erik prince and makes my money makes more money and i'll be talking

a lot i'm sorry i just go out on the. the thing that i have to bring up one of the quickly remember that erik prince is just doing what lockheed raytheon all the others do every single day there are reports of the new york times they just hire think tanks and lobbyists right and also really essentially does the same thing as a raytheon it's just not selling tomahawk missiles he's selling people and bodies and life and renting them out to the highest bidder which to me is strange because i feel like this whole push toward these mercenaries is really what's going to end up happening is we're going to lose the best people we have in the armed forces because why would you work for the united states government when you could do the same job you were doing in afghanistan and make three times as much and a better benefits very prince it makes no sense what you're saying is all of these soldiers that have been trained by the united states military various arms are good enough your guys who are former military who got all their training from the same

place are better to i want to i'm confused by that maybe it's i want to throw my wording by you in there prince is kind of justification of you know the way it doesn't is a lot of weight for it he argues the criticism if you will criticize him for the argues that quote just as no one criticizes you one must because as members of the space x. hopes apply american astronauts no one should criticize it private company mine or anyone else's for helping this or grieve multigenerational. your. boy by now we know this is you know you do not equate the idea of delivering food and science supplies to the international space station astronauts and bringing satellites into orbit with you going over and killing innocent civilians because that's what's going to happen and then when they get caught doing things they're not supposed to which air currents has been caught and has various iterations of his company get caught over and over and over doing things that

aren't right that are on ethical and make the entire united states look bad. who is going to pay for it then taxpayers or we go i remember not to. the prince to. hillary clinton is finally stepping forward it was scott said no she won't be on an apology tour for never bothering to even put one foot in the badger state during her election no it isn't a series of town halls where she could speak with people about how they've been affected by nafta it isn't even a tour of the families who lost loved ones in the various interventionist wars she spearheaded and fan the flames of all in washington she is selling her book that's right hillary no dairy please clinton will be performing live at the riverside arena in milwaukee wisconsin on nov ninth that's right one year and a day after her second presidential campaign last hillary clinton live is a fifteen city book tour in which the big h. will read from her book entitled one big and her p.r.

team says she'll let loose and tell her audience is quote personal rod detailed and surprisingly funny a story is of course if you want to be part of the whole areas hillary's spectacular spectacular you might need to dig deep to start at around fifty dollars and go all the way to a whopping fifteen hundred dollars for the v.i.p. planting of a ticket which includes front row seating a backstage meet and greet with photo and a sign to book but don't sweat the cost because in some cities the v.i.p. tickets are inexplicably tax deductible in the amount of four hundred fifty dollars ignorance of the massive massive insult hillary's campaign was to the poor blue collar workers of all races and rust belt states probably won't endure her to many but trying to profit off of the very people who meant nothing to her when it mattered to them just proves exec lee what happened. oh why

oh why oh up as order comes your harken your book now you decide to show up in michigan. wisconsin and all those states you kind of ignored on the campaign trail when you were the big money you know donations and this is a mood thing it's not what most politicians when they want to really realize that their careers is kind of their political aims or it was a they go to the book writing for you know words like rahm or write a book about all the great things i do in this case we're able to do because everyone else with me i know you well i mean you have to the truth is and everyone in wisconsin knows this shit about not hard to do as it was stand up and i've said it before i keep talking to people from my home state over and over from both sides of the aisle everything i hear about why they didn't vote for was because she didn't show up she did not show up that was a major issue so it's kind of coming your nose at the people in wisconsin by showing up now especially near election day she was the first major presidential candidate of a major party to not campaign at all in the state of wisconsin since one thousand

nine hundred seventy two and there hasn't been a republican hasn't won a presidential election in wisconsin since one thousand nine hundred four a time of the top of the remember remember. it's not hillary's fault the russians did it. right when you were going to. do when you were going to durance alerts because it starts in washington d.c. and. december thirteenth in vancouver three there's like three or four stops in canada. does crisscross the country in places that she didn't go to the again like you're saying michigan she lost by a small margin wisconsin she lost by a razor thin margin that she showed up over the. top tier packages of theirs go around for go for about three thousand canadian dollars for two seats or american dollars or twelve hundred dollars a pop is a lot of money raking in on the goodwill tour or what happened to the what happened

to our which seems where this feels a lot like the cher farewell tour you think it's going to be and it's not be out and it's going to keep coming back like i thought this was going to be if not like what is she going to do vegas now we've already had a court say that you hijacked the primary there you go for you hijack the primary i think i think we're good we can we finally be done with the clip after this and this really for execution of a book can i say the thing that bothers me the most is that she's selling this book and making this big deal about oh he made my skin crawl and oh he was behind me and what should i have done you should have stood up and turned around and said something when i was hovering behind our report you were in the position to be the person who tells every little girl and every woman that it's ok to turn around and say back off when someone makes you a little bit earlier it would have been brilliant but she didn't she chose to say nothing and now it's all oh well once again pulling out feminism when it's

profitable for her pulling out these things oh and also she's she's releasing a children's for a very version of it takes a village during the same time a starbucks so yea you know we go back to taking it well there's probably going to be a cookie rest. and when there is no politics you can make money while you are in office and make money while you are out of office and how is that different from the republicans how is that i mean everything that. we're ours how our system works that's the tragedy of it that this is it this is what you get this is a career politician at their finest and well you know the choice is where i was calling from golan that's the worst turn you could possibly come up with as we go to break our watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter see our poll shows that are tea dot com coming up we've just discussed one of the biggest silent epidemics in the world as the co-founder and chairman of one mind the egg one and the oxen that's going to miss the state to watch.

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world come along for the ride. yes. mainstream media often covers exotically named public health scares such as bola and and for one reason or another the media has finally caught up with the opioid epidemic that's been ravaging parts of the country for decades but what is still tragically absent in our public health discourse is the topic of mental illness to discuss the silent epidemic in more detail we sat down with parents tagline founder of one mind whose mission is to alleviate him and suffering from the diseases of the brain by funding scientific research into the causes prevention and new treatments leading to cures for brain disease and injury and ambitious mr mission

certainly so how does one mine tackle this challenge. well we've already got a twenty three year history of doing it taro but we've got a long way to go so. this our journey began with our son who had a typical psychotic break from schizophrenia. and we were fortunate to have the resources to get the right there and gnosis and get him on our program of medication he wasn't well but he was able to go back to school at dartmouth college and graduated on time with honors in a dual nature. we at that point in time said to ourselves you know what we're weighed more fortunate than most people we've got to run towards this problem instead of away from it so in the last twenty three years we've been funding scientific research both at an individual scientific level and

a large scale project level i'll tell you more about that later to really look at everything from the structure of the brain to the circuits of the brain to the chemistry of the brain and try to. and what causes these illnesses and then what treatments can we have that will be better for people and finally how can we actually begin to talk about cures for these illnesses in our lifetime well it's incredible great great great work a very fascinating story here and that and the numbers on mental illness now are staggering and maybe the numbers were always there we just don't know how many and all of that but in the u.s. every year you've got nearly eight million people suffering from post-traumatic stress two and a half million experience traumatic brain injury and forty four million going through some form of mental illness is is mental illness and mental disease is the unspoken epidemic of our country. absolutely it is

a national emergency and i think that we've been afraid to acknowledge it or talk about it i think it comes from several things first of all i think people believe somehow or another they are to blame or there's some fault or shame in either having the onus or not doing enough for the people they love about it secondly i think there's been a long time a belief that there was nothing we could do about this is the most complex organism the body you've got three trillion synapses in your head this is an incredible wiring diagram and people probably believe there was no way we could fix this in third i think it was just easier not to talk about things and so the data wasn't either available or people just didn't want to come forward but it is absolutely a ear data i use that one number sixty million people or one in five people have

these illnesses it is absolutely something we need to solve let me give you another data point which may make it even more profound for you so every day about. people will die in a car accident about fifty people will be murdered and you will read about every one of those as front page news in the local newspaper or even national news the sad story is more than a hundred people take their own lives because of their brain illness because they don't want to live like this is all that is and for everyone who is successful any more than so every day two thousand people put themselves in this position and we are not doing clearly enough about it to make that number reduce dramatically or go away while mental health inevitably ties into many other

sidle and health related issues you see mental health the onus is on often correlating closely with homelessness substance abuse. would how do we go about kind of tackling this problem one minor going about from a from a medical lindemann from that and trying to find the funding and put the funding forth for that but. what are other stuff active solution of this is finding effective solutions to homelessness and others some of these other problems help also lead in to fixing the problems of the mine that we're facing. i think it's it's a chicken and egg thing seventy percent of the long term population are there because they're mentally ill. i don't know how old you are but it wasn't more than about twenty years ago that we had this great idea of shutting down all of the know how in the country. say money for budget purposes started here in california went to

new york and the whole idea was that families would be able to take care of their loved ones and more money would back away look at what that did not happen so people. or are there on the street are there not because they want to be there because their families can't cope with them we haven't had health care plans in corporations and otherwise that had parity for people with a mental illness by parity i mean that if you have the same duration of care or level of deductible for any other illness we've just passed recently a law that says that will happen but we're still not there in most states so you have inadequate health care coverage a problem that so big that people and families can't deal with it and we have in. the health care system itself in dealing with these people by closing this centers themselves so it's you know it's not an intractable problem but we have to get way

more serious about it you know or for us to make a difference here. just another data point for you so twenty percent of the prison population are there because they're mentally or the number one dispenser of psychotic drugs is not mass general or mt sinai hospital it's the l.a. county jail and with people are in cars to rate it and get treatment they actually become stabilize they go back out into the system don't have adequate care and guess what the number one resume of this prisoner is a male either a bipolar either alcoholic or drug addict so it's a real societal problem we need to make it a priority and we definitely do well i'm old enough to remember that the whole thing with reagan shutting down mental health and then all of that and it has been pushed more and more on families but then the public funds to help families and to

support them things that that people have put into the system and should be there for us aren't there what what is how is it so important that we. someone equalize the playing field not playing field for everybody whether you're poor or you're rich if you have a mental illness that should be taken care of either by insurance or price and some kind of public funds what do we have to do to get people's mindset there that it's just like any other dizziness. and you said it exactly right to be very it is it's just like any other organ in your body is so that's why we call it brain health or brain disease because somehow if you use the comp do the term mental it seems like well maybe you've got a problem with character or you just don't know the american way in which we get up and do things no matter what. you can't you know when you're a diabetic you have to have insulin any you have depression you need some way to

balance this ms line and the sara tone and the dopamine in your system so these are chemical disorders they're not character disorders so we got to start with that let everybody understand that and nobody did anything wrong secondly let's not do things with the affordable care act that reduces funding for this sector of people because this is the even as bad as it is it could be dramatically worse we're all we are trying and new direction also you think of it is it makes a lot of sense we all spend most of our waking hours not at home but at work and the workplace is the place in which mental health brain health has got to become a priority so we've launched a program in addition to our research called one mind it work and we're trying to promulgating a standard to be a year for all corporations to deal with people in the workplace with these

illnesses and what it involves simple things like strong messages no stigma no discrimination is people when they have these illness. even though their health care plan may cover it they are afraid to come forward is guesswork big think jarosz now i'm going to get put the back of the line when it comes to promotions they'll think i'm weak not be a member of the team we have to eliminate that we have to stop so bring the behavior of the people who stay up all night in work days autonomy with no rust as good corporate behavior that's not good behavior because people can't be well under that kind of stress and stress is the enemy of these illnesses so we've got to have health care plans we've got to have environments in the workplace we have to have awareness that these are illnesses chemicals not of character and no one should

ever let anyone who has an illness not go get help go find it you can find a way somehow some way to get it we have organizations like the net mommy and mental health of america that have resources at a local chapter level that if you can find them in the yellow pages they were help people get out. as the public's understanding of bitcoin and blocked change starts to develop past the initial stages and dubious puzzlement the corporate world is beginning to wake up to the world of crypto opportunities and in the lead is burger king russia introducing the aptly named whopper calling a loyalty were its programming to ministers as many start as crypto currency with its own block chain russian fast food lovers will now be able to scan the receipts to collect a coin for every rouble they spend amounting to a free whopper for every five or six they by experts are cheering on the idea of crypto currency rewards programs pointing out that consumers would be able to

convert and exchange their coins much more freely of international points and many expect airlines and other big chains to soon follow suit but not everyone's on board by a predictable set of pessimists comma. in panic that the move to crypto currency combined with the pro program rolling out in big bad rough means that black or coins may soon be used for money laundering and collecting ground somewhere acking victims or i russia taking over the world one will watch our world board's point at a time totally. yeah that's a big deal over just what amounts to a kind of. a lot of burgers you know you know. they're going to be dead before you can have your winnings great heart attack city there i directed maybe that's the playground only script old girl oh no all that's what it is we had planned. it all the hackers high cholesterol. all right everybody get out of doors over the very

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a headline and used for the benefit of people in the media and people in power is looked at is very one dimensional plus we have somebody who is just such a bold faced lie as trump is. diplomatic discourse is. placed atop it's next on larry king now. to larry king now our special guest vic manso the grammy nominated rapper hailing from chicago illinois following the release of his twenty thirteen mix tape in the main taped vic emerged as one of music's most sought after and critically acclaimed axed he's since been signed to jay z's rock nation record label and work closely with all of us like kanye west chance the rapper and. just today have a few vics revealing new full length album the autobiography is available now and

you've been working on this for a long time how does it feel to finally have the world know it's a room. very releasing. personally and. i almost feel like i made a lot of close friends in people that. purchased and really are living with the album because it's. is often so partisan of the things i wouldn't tell somebody unless i was close to them what made you do it it was really my way of coping with everything i was talking about and been able to come to terms with the learn from it grow from it felt like i had to be transparent and confessional in order to move past so it was really cathartic very cathartic how did the how did the connection come with jay z's rock nation

label i was lucky to find out there working with rock nation jerseys company would be like working with my own people it didn't feel like i was stepping into room of vultures and suits nothing against suits i don't wear. it like i said you know it's a record label helmed by. arguably the greatest rapper so there's an understanding of artists there that i find to be you know very freeing in a corporate setting especially you recently said i really did make a conscious effort was to try to be understood i was leaving no stone unturned i feel like i had to be unapologetically me i had to be able to show all my truths the autobiography concept gave me license to.

use literary tools like illusion in flashback in foreshadowing so there's times they might be in the middle of a chronological storyline but throw in. greece and i go back to to a memory from five six years earlier and it's not right back into the present day and look like a book so oftentimes it is in chronological order though you're very open about his struggles with depression drug dependency was that hard to sing about talk about off on actually easy to talk about easier to talk about than please say. rap subjects in a list of things because you know i'm talking about the things that are closest to me to things that are that i've experienced firsthand and for me that

was easier to put reference simple real emotion then you know maybe just make a song about partying where you do you do pressures a young man i started to deal with mental health issues in high school in more so as i became eighteen nineteen twenty in step in in adolescence so these are things that have been close to me for a long time if you try to do treat it well you know i didn't for a long time in a lot of this album is about those paths that i went down trying to self medicate and when you see something on a song called rolling like a stone or it's maybe on its exterior. he didn't a stick and like just excess and drug use but underneath the surface

is is something that i was trying to heal pain i was trying to heal bust self medicating and i think a lot of people are doing this right now as you see we have an opioid epidemic in. a mean we've had america uses drugs and prescription drugs like none other you know so we've got a lot of people in our country and in our culture that are trying to cover something up and i want to try to feel better everybody's don't feel about it in the black community things like depression and legs are played down one hundred percent because. as black men this is an idea of masculinity that oftentimes is misleading that we've been led to believe is how we have to act. you know i mean i'm not going to go down a full history lesson you know but the traditional avenues for being

a breadwinner being a man in the black community was stripped from us and provided for your family and. and bringing home the bacon for your family is something that was there was often like out of reach for black men so we had to develop certain other ideas of masculinity that often are very hyper masculine very aggressive and leave no room for vulnerability and i believe that that leads us to a place where we're not able oftentimes to be open and be honest about things going on in our brain because we don't want to appear weak in youth you feel that if you if you give any sign of weakness that you'll be torn down do you think that will get better as a society molds together more you're the product of an intermarriage there's a lot more into the twenty years ago you think there's going to change i think is

going to change if we change it and that's why i'm trying to take the steps that i take to just open up the conversation and de stigmatise so and things like that to help in the black community because it's not going to change if we just allow it to fester how long you've been sober i haven't been using drugs for a year and a half maybe i'll just stop i had somebody in my life there was that was. selfless enough to look past the hurt that i caused them from a hard place and help me to be honest about what was going on in my life and in. the seek psychiatric help and start talks with their peers for real because i was in the same low i was like man i'm not going to talk to a therapist i'm not crazy. you know. and. somebody was able to the this woman in my life was able to just you know help me go

seek help and help myself as your success hoped i don't think success helps things like that at all i think a lot of times it can just magnify what's wrong. you know you see artists passing away too early from drug addiction in suicide and from lincoln park has killed himself and you know success doesn't help those that it's assessed it's whatever you have and magnify the put it underneath the magnifying glass whatever's going to actually worse just makes it better so if it's if there's issues the issues get bigger you grew up in chicago the city that produced some of the greed artists in your journey. what was special about your program. you're going to have. next it's a good place i think chicago is unique

from new york city in l.a. in there. you don't grow up with hollywood orse or stardom in reach really you know you not see in billboards for the newest netflix special and i'm not saying everybody that's in new york does which is see a puffy hop in that i'm a bad x. it's just like is very midwest is midwest it's authentic you know it's concrete and i feel the perspectives that come from chicago are often guided by that with that kind of like i see real ism city a big shoulders or about the rap on chicago that it's a violent city. the for those of trump attacks the users example all the time people getting killed the mayor emanuel he won't obey a federal law that requires attorney in the grounds. i mean look at that i think

the violence in chicago is often sensational as it is turned into a headline and it's used for the benefit of people in the media and people in power. is looked at as very one dimensional without really observing the factors that have created this violence and observing the fact that you can live an entire life in lincoln park chicago another hear a gunshot but be in a different neighborhood and here go to every night so you have these communities that are stripped of of everything they don't have organic food there's no produce the school systems are broken the schools are closed and the textbooks in the schools that are open are from the one nine hundred eighty s. and you have these people in

a toxic environment they grow up to do talks of things i think it makes perfect sense i don't think it's it's good in in any sense of the word but it makes sense and is by design done trump a-z. of disappointed good or is expected. i think is as expected you know what i would say that he's clearly. he's clearly in office for you know his parsimony in for it is financial gain and we don't know the full game yet but there's a lot of nepotism going on in it's it's hardly presidential but i had to come to terms with the fact that nobody getting into office. as the president of the united states is really like my candidate nobody's really representing me or my people so our win is not on net stated no obama do i don't really believe so i lived i

live five six blocks away from barack obama's home and so i watched my neighborhood not improve in my city not improve in my community not improve maybe get worse in the that obama was in office in iraq is i recognize he's the president of the united states but i don't think that obama's agenda was very often. you know to represent the people and do well by the people feel like he was often times very careful with what he said with regard to race if you met with trump would you discuss these things with him. i don't have any interest in meeting with trump no no i mean you know i think that we have somebody that's just such a bold faced lie. as trump is. diplomatic discourse is. wasted time wasted time when we were turn big

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podesta emails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims. i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied to be n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating corporate has once again proved to be an ethical government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming indistinguishable. with mensa great gifts great to have them with us how did you find music. i found

music through musicians just people that impacted me to pocking con men and kurt cobain and see me enjoy nicks and prince and david bowie and all these people that really made me feel away as a kid and i wanted to impact people the same way how did you break in spite of being me just stand true to myself and make music that was different from other people who also in the album discuss the trials tribulations of growing up on the south side your mother was from upstate new york you write she's of german an irish descent my father was from gonna live in a two parent household i start to get old i'm kind of being hit back and forth like a ping pong ball because on one hand america views me as this general blanket term black and a home mommy but i have found for the. you still live with that. because there are still who would think that i've been able to in adulthood turn it into

a strength so as opposed to like us in. a sense of suffering and i'm able to have a perspective that it's dualistic in can see in a city for what it is but also look. in your good profile police haven't we are. how you respond odom early age that. police that's where you start to listen and n.w.a. and i started identifying before that i didn't really i don't really understand certain things about rap music and i didn't understand the aggression a lot of the signs and around time i'm twelve years old and i start realizing that i'm being treated differently than you know my white friends is just when this which went off in and out aggression came alive in me are you all really looking

forward to making new music. and thinking about new music. just trying to put myself in some positions to learn from the world around me like i take a lot of enjoyment in going to places where i can help and people are struggling like. flint michigan or stan iraq in all those things influence what i do so i'm ready to get back out into the world and start talking to people again used to justin bieber and they've got cancelled yeah you know why. i think he was just exhausted i believe he does. and on decently well and i read a statement that he made a couple days ago just saying that he wants to put his health. at the top of his priority list and i respect that any collaboration's in the near future if you like to collaborate i'd like to collaborate i don't know about collaboration in the near

future i really just been focused on is right now but i do have some collaboration's that are in the pocket let go so it's going to be a big hit and i will play a game of if you only knew i just threw some strangest fan encounter. a kid is go saw me enter in my house last year and was driving a delivery truck he got out the delivery truck somehow made it on to my next door neighbor's roof and in climbed over to my roof there's a fire law that you can't have a roof locked from the inside for some reason basis so he came into my house and then i come out of my bedroom and they be in my underwear and is just this dude standing here and he wants to rep for me. and i'm like. this way

i got it you know doesn't the bed. what's a superpower you wish you had. if i could choose one superpower i would choose the limitless ability like the movie where he takes the pill that makes him utilize all of his brain so i would have a subpar like super human intelligence or something just to be able to use. not as interesting guilty pleasure. yes but see. the moment you knew you made it up into that for me as an ambitious person macon is a continuous pursuit but one one who was significant to me was performing at lollapalooza in scarborough as a music festival last summer because when i was a kid i heart muscle pretty badly sneaking in a lot of problems or trying to sneak in. and then you got to form that here most

under-rated aspect of chicago the lake first job you have that scrubbing the chili pot. at the organic deli down the street xenix if you weren't in music what do you think you'd be doing i think i'd probably be in tech oh yeah or or journalism i thought of writing a person you could switch places with for day. best piece of advice you ever got it was a bell writing music and it was from a guy named mike posner and he said to sell as much truth in every line as possible what was the worst piece of advice. biggest risk you've ever taken i guess it was a pretty big risk to. you know from my family's perspective to forgo

gone down as occasional route and you know make make a real life out of revenues i school yeah i did someone from history you'd like to take to lunch alexander hamilton. did you see the show a bunch of times three times four times place we'd like to find you on your day off jamaican restaurant anywhere. sigrid talent karate some questions for vick man serve from our social media t.j. so i've heard is there an artist you're dying to collaborate with. three thousand of our cast he also asked what was the most difficult song to write off the new album the most difficult song to write was a song call. down for some ignorance i think just because. the subject matter was so close to me still it was kind of like hard to be

objective and step outside the world per se. joe gaily on the larry king no blog we see a lot of musicians jump in front of the camera do you have a desire to act i want to do i want to do a film about the current state of chicago because i feel like people have tried and it hasn't been right you want to direct a film or be in a film or what problem being a film are you thinking about work tomorrow i've been thinking about i've got some titles swimming around in my can dawson on the larry king now blog what was kind us like to work with and your plans to work with them again. kind a west is a. great collaborator he really has a strength for seeing the strengths in other people so that's something that i learned from him and. the question was do i plan to work with him in the future yes is easy to work with nothing about chi is easy you know i think that's clear

but that doesn't take away from the genius of his process chris on the larry king or bob i was your lollapalooza said was chance the rapper what was it like to be out on the stage with him in your home city and any plans to work with chance on new music that was good i felt that that was. the necessary moment of unity for our city because it's often very divided in being picked apart by a lot of people and yes we've been talking about making new music what's special about his talent suneet as an artist you know and i grew up with chance so i know him well as a parson and i think that he's dedicated to there's a lot of a lot of real things a lot of things that people are bringing into popular music my gear on larry king now blog would you ever want to branch out of rap work with the north as from

a different genre. one hundred percent you know a definitely do a lot of collaboration with people outside of i don't really see music so. based like i really collaborate more often with people that can finally k.j. i'm turned sixteen on twitter where you see yourself in ten years as things i'm trying to build right now you know schools in scarborough. ten years or so between albums so. about ten albums nineteen albums in your major figure and i thank you you thank. big thanks to my guests nick men so be sure to pick up a copy of the new album before the movie it's available now as always you can find me on twitter and kings then said i'll see you next time.

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maybe even your car for more of the startling revelations from vault seven leaks i'm joined now by two people who know this topic better than anyone john kiriakou is a former cia agent as well as a whistleblower who went to prison for exposing that agency's illegal torture program he's also the author of the forthcoming book doing time like a spy out the cia taught me to survive and thrive in prison also joining me tonight is journalist and author james bamford who wrote the bestselling classic the shadow factory the ultra secret n.s.a. from nine eleven to the eavesdropping on america among other books john james great it's a great honor actually to have by. both of you here when it's i want and respect and this is a topic into which i really wanted to do a deep dive so we're going to do it for the half hour. john if i can start out with you walk us through this what what has worked the leaks in fact revealed here what is the problem and what's wiki leaks has told us definitively in my opinion that the cia can hack our i phones they could hack our google android phones our samsung

smart t.v.'s perhaps even our cars and this is. really in defiance of any logic american laws it struck me when i first read the documents how less than a year ago the f.b.i. was paying apparently millions of dollars to hackers to help them get into an i phone owned by the san bernadino. shooter when in fact the cia had already hacked the i phone and was not even sharing that information with the f.b.i. one of the things that i think hasn't been addressed that i think is very important is with this this information is the cia spying on americans are they having our i phones and our android phones we just don't know now you said the cia can does that mean that they may i mean is i mean that they have the technical capability or the legal well they've apparently had this technical capability at least since two

thousand and thirteen according to wiki leaks so my guess is as soon as they figured out they could do it they implemented it i think we should assume that they've been doing this for years you know james this is these documents are mostly technical in nature but given recent revelations from the n.s.a. and the snowden documents and everything else. how solid do you think all this is how real you know how confident should we be that a this is all real in these these are capabilities and b. that the cia wouldn't use them against people in the united states i know it's. i always used to say we're not we're barred from law doing domestic surveillance i seem to recall during the bush administration there were you know there was some wiggle room given to them but i frankly don't recall the details maybe i'm not even recalling it right if you could set me straight here right well they're not supposed to do any spying within the united states and you know it struck me about

this just apart from the technical side which. is very detailed but the whole idea that all these things are leaking out so much so we've got. millions of actually more than half a billion pages of documents have been lost in the last and now last few years now mark lost has been intercepted or you know the n.s.a. in the cia have lost. these pages now what was lost here what was given to wiki leaks was details about how you hack into these phones and so forth now if if the security is so bad it at the cia who knows who else might have gotten this information if it's so easy to get that out of the building this information could be going to hackers or to criminal criminal gangs that are using this

material to hack one government right so you're building up these systems these tools in order to break into telephones and t.v. sets and other things it says we can't we aren't using it domestically but if all this stuff is getting out how martin who worked for the number of contractors for n.s.a. and so forth was arrested last year for excell trading taking out of the agency fifty terabytes half a billion pages of material and some of that were tools also so you get all this. coming out of the intelligence community that could be used against us and. we're supposed to feel safe because of that and these are at least from what julian assange said these are actually weapons i mean these are potentially tools of war with the weapons or the kind of cyber.

cyber weapons or what was used against iran the stocks and so forth these are more defined as tools tools for getting into telephones as opposed to weapons which destroy physical objects and that's what happened with stuxnet although the idea of hacking a car. that could indeed be a weapon that can be in an assassination sure if you can hack into a car's. auto drive auto pilot feature and drive a car you know off the road into a tree off a cliff a bridge whatever and they're not having any record of it i would call that an assassination tool i remember a reporter in los angeles car went out of. blanking on his name but ended up hitting a tree and killing him yeah well that was the reporter for rolling stone the articles

on michael hastings i think of michael hastings. right he did all the fantastic reporting from iraq on. general what was name was who had to resign after that crystal crystal river. not to say that that was necessarily an assassination or that it was done by the cia or anything but that is the kind of thing exactly. and that's that's pretty amazing. james to follow up here's a clip from former cia director michael hayden talking about fault. there are there you are. want us to spy on you one of us to have the ability to actually turn on that listening device inside the t.v. to learn that person's intentions this is a wonderful capability so wonderful capability what's your response to general that it's ironic that michael hayden saying that since. the law in the

first place in. bugging americans on behalf of the bush administration during and after nine eleven and so forth one on for years. but yeah the problem is that you've got an agency here you've got so many agencies that are involved in cyber now the n.s.a. is normalcy involved in cyber planning cyber. tools different player using cyber tools to get in a lot of different places including places in the united states cyber command which is actually using cyber as weapons around the world in case of war or even conflicts different places and now you've got the cia developing all these new tools and potential weapons. to use for cyber but you know where's the oversight on

a lot of this you know very little oversight but we've got an awful lot of material that could be used against us or may be may be used against us now now that the and james i remember your first book puzzle palace. back in the eighty's is key to my mind it was an extraordinary i think was really the first tell all book about the n.s.a. . the you know we always thought of the n.s.a. as the guys who were listening in and the cia is the guys who were talking to the spies and running foreign intelligence but now the cia has their own military drone program i don't know if the n.s.a. does. this is not the drones use a lot of a lot of what's on the drones our cameras but also signals intelligence in other words he's dropping they do a lot of these dropping with the drones but there was the run by the seattle are the are the lines between these two agencies getting blurred. the division of the lines is that n.s.a.

uses all its cyber activity to go out and plant malware over a million places now according to one of the snowden documents malware in large. cross points and telecommunications world in order to try to scoop it all up. that's the n.s.a. the cyber command to launch cyber weapons to actually use the cyber as a authentic weapon to destroy things or break things whatever and the cia is to well the cyber command does it during a time of war supposedly or authorized. actions the cia is used for covert operations that's why cia was used for the stuxnet operation against iran and where the n.s.a. goes for the big picture the. whole networks and so forth the cia has been

developing these individual hacking tools to get into individual phones that actually bypass the encryption. people think that you know if you have end encryption you're protected but if somebody actually can get something into your phone or into your computer that bypasses that intercept communications before it gets encrypted now there's when you're typing on a keyboard. and if you type in a wireless keyboard in you have a bluetooth and you have something that picks up the bluetooth. between the cube tween the keyboard and the computer then it's not encrypted you're just you know hitting the letters the way the person is going to read them through markable john you were in the cia how how different is the cia now from what you know of it from the agency that you left unrecognizable you know for so many years for many decades

the role of the cia was very simple it was to recruit spies to steal secrets and then to analyze those secrets to provide the best possible information to the policymakers to then make the best possible policy now it's a paramilitary organization it's a cyber military organization they have their hands in everything and now when we think of cia and cia officers overseas we don't think of of a james bond like character at a diplomatic cocktail party going after a russian or an iranian we think of drone operators we think of of people working in cubicles writing malicious code and we think of what we're learning now from the likes of wiki leaks and it's a completely totally different place than it was even ten years ago it's remarkable one other problem with that is that you know we've got all the drones over

afghanistan iraq yemen and all these other places they're really sophisticated drones now i mean botting people on the ground following them and so forth now onesies conflicts wind down if they do which hopefully they will but once they wind down. they're going to be coming back to the united states and a lot of law enforcement organizations are going to want to use this in the united states is the same thing we've seen with all these weapons of war all exactly teams are now right and these companies have that. financial capability or these. these states now have the financial capability to buy these right and the defense contractors are going to want to continue manufacturing more with john kiriakou and james bamford. board.

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people. and welcome back the big picture i'm talking about the vault seven cia hijack hacking leaks the cia whistleblower john kiriakou and journalist james bamford james you were you were just talking about how some of this stuff these these these weapons of espionage coming back to the united states you know they were just like we've had tanks come back an armored personnel carriers and so forth and you have local police departments now getting some of these armored police armored personnel carriers well we've got these drones that have been developed that are nor mislay sophisticated because. they've been used in wars for now fifteen years or so.

and things quiet down if we start pulling back from the middle east we've got all that. technology that is probably going to go to local police departments state police offices or the f.b.i. or and the problem is we don't have a legal infrastructure for regulating these things there's a lot of this fair number of regulation now on eavesdropping because of all the use dropping scandals but there hasn't been any cme those yet on the overhead imagery and therefore there is no real focus on. i'm creating laws preventing that and so that's an area that i think congress should start looking into that is that is remarkable john i want to play a clip from joining us on just your take. the cia developed giant oss and all the what appears to be the largest arsenal of trojans and viruses in

the world that attacks most of the. systems that journalists people in government politicians ceo's and average people use. didn't stick to it lost control of it and then. appear to have covered up that fact. so what does songe mean when he says the cia has lost control of these well tools once virus is out there once it's infected a computer or a system it's out there and it's not in the cia's control anymore now by their very nature these are these are unclassified malicious programs right you can't classify it because your intent is to put it out there but say you're you want to infect the system in the middle east or the somewhere in the former soviet union once it's in

that system you've utterly lost control of it and that's what's happened in cases like the stuff stuxnet virus for example and god knows what other what other malicious programs the cia has put out there hasn't the stocks i respond re weaponized a couple of times yes it has it comes back now every every eighteen months or twenty four months you know it was one of the problems the intelligence community. gave their word of honor to the president that these things will never escape once we put them in the where they're going in iran and to attack the centrifuges and they didn't escape and they attacked i think it was one hundred thousand computers in the air it didn't destroy him but it did affect them so these things you know the intelligence community promises one thing in the next time you look at it there they've escaped so so james how should in your opinion and i want to get your

opinion on this too john how should congress you know the lawmaking branch of government how should they be what what what kind of metrics what kind of corridors barriers what should they be putting in place with regard to oversight of the spectrum of technology. well i think the problem is that a lot of the people in congress don't have much of a technical background there and they're for. backgrounds that don't lend themselves to knowing much about cyber or how how this works and then there are that many of them and then those that are in there i don't think have the intention of really protecting the public that much they're in there because a lot of their constituents happen to be defense contractors who are making a lot of money creating these things was much different back in the seventy's when frank church created basically the intelligence committee community or the intelligence committees and then his idea was to stand between the intelligence

community and the public and now pretty much the intelligence committees are there to protect the companies and the agencies from the public it's kind of regulatory capture john your thought guy group with that i think that we have a serious problem where it comes to oversight you know frank church is gone otis pike is gone and the likes of mark warner and. oregon ron wyden just can't stand up to what the earlier generation of oversight leadership just to say they're not try and there are other wyden has been so outspoken he's worked as hard as he can and same with mark warner they work as hard as they can but there's no institutional will to really stand up to the cia on capitol hill you know when you look at dianne feinstein for example or richard burr

they are literally nothing more than cheerleaders for the intelligence community that's not a weinstein was hacked by the cia was and that was when she was investigating that's right and that's the only thing that turned her around and that really wasn't her anger her eye or wasn't directed necessarily at the cia as much as it was directed at john brennan because because it was brennan that ordered the. the hacking of the senate's computers and then he lied about it and then lied about it remarkable which all i think is more evidence of need for oversight even if it's highly classified we never know about it and this is an ongoing theme you know everything that the cia tells us is a lie they say there's no torture program that's a lie they said that there were no secret prisons that was a lie they said that they weren't rendering prisoners to third countries to undergo torture that was a lie and now they want us there they said they weren't hacking to send its computers that was a lie now they want us to take their word for it that they're not using these these

malicious weapons against americans and yet everything they say isn't a lie i mean those i grant you though these major issues we need a c. and we are not in any sure without a doubt but we need this the n.s.a. and the cia to be targeting our enemies abroad not to be collecting information on american citizens and that's what we consistently bump up against and to the extent that that gets done that should be the role of the province of the f.b.i. presently have you know it all although i'm guessing that they're probably using the same tools and the so the james for the average person who you know. probably most people are are not in a circle where they're bumping up against anybody who would cause the cia or the f.b.i. or anybody else to be seriously looking at them but still it's this kind of creepy feeling a and b. a lot of people actually i mean the old if you play the game you know six points of separation a lot of people know somebody or are neighbors with somebody who might actually be

the subject of something how to how do people avoid their their personal and private information getting hoovered up here. well speaking generally both the n.s.a. and the cia not just these recent leaks but particularly n.s.a. which has that enormous capability to suck up everything from the points that were communications lou. basically the major communications links. the problem is that they have these target lists and a lot of the target lists have people on there that shouldn't be on there i mean there were one million people on the target list at one point i mean that many there is no fly list they know of no fly lists and so forth so. you know the problem is that if you say the wrong word on the phone or you communicate at the wrong place. you may be put on the list and you won't know it until you're bumped off an airplane or sometimes you don't know it all you know your son or daughter

applies for west point or annapolis or something and they get turned down because they looked up on the list and you're on the list and you're not told that that's why they're not going there so there's a lot of things that. people don't realize that. they could be affected by this kind of what i want to up one of the big revelations james was that signal confide that some of these encrypted products for personal communication that are probably frankly used more by you know teenagers in law for adults having affairs and things like that rather than spying but the very vulnerable as well as that is that very much the case yeah well the whole idea is to make virtually everything vulnerable. on the positive side because of the snowden leaks there was a very big. movement domestically to bring in

christian into center stage and everybody becoming aware that encryption is out there and you should use it plus at the same time it was made very user friendly it's much easier now for people to use encryption so. and to some degree these new leaks from wiki leaks of the cia hacking tools kind of show that because they're they're going. after the individual phones. and shows because they're they're not able to hack entire network at the end encrypted and so they have to go after the individual phone so. i mean that sort of the. bright side of the picture i guess for the moment john we have about a minute a half the documents talk about the u.s. consulate in frankfurt being a cia hacking headquarters and sensually what does that mean. there are three holy of holies that you're told about when you first go to the cia

three things you can never talk about sources and methods liaison relationships and anything having to do with n.s.a. . i think this would fall under sources methods and because of my previous trouble with the cia i think i should not respond to that question james any thoughts just well frank offer is always been a big for the cia the n.s.a. they've always had a huge hub there poor until it is because there's great. electronic infrastructure there or is it because after world war two that's where they put a lot of the. where they built a lot of that intelligence infrastructure is there a sense actually germany couldn't say no yeah and i mean berlin had had a fair amount but it was frankfurt was much easier to get to you know and it became west germany exactly. remarkable james john thank you both for being

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making it nearly impossible to prevent or even predict who's most at risk drug companies make billions of dollars marketing treatments for self worth with medication carrying a certain amount of risk and while some drug companies have been honest about the risks of their drugs period others have tried to cover up the dangers in order to score a bigger profit tonight we'll tell you about one of the latest arthritis. drugs has killed hundreds of people and how that company behind the drug tried to cover up the truth and later in the show i'll talk to you about how an old dupont plant contaminated the river in virginia now they have to pay forty two million dollars to begin correcting their disaster so go anywhere america's lawyer starts now. rheumatoid arthritis is

a chronic disease affecting more than one point three million americans and as much as one percent of the worldwide population the specific cause of rheumatoid arthritis isn't known and there's no known cure for the disease rheumatoid arthritis is one of the most common auto immune disorders and symptoms are triggered when a person's and body's attack this in no view joint fluid causes chronic inflammation actimel is a suppressive medication used to treat the symptoms of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis the medication was first approved by the f.d.a. in two thousand and ten the drugs been marketed to doctors as not increasing the risk of heart failure stroke or lung disease which competing drug makers admit rheumatoid arthritis medication usually does the problem is that it temora absolutely does carry those risks and the manufacturer seriously misled the f.d.a. and doctors in order to sell its drug according to medical journalism organization

stat patients taking it to our fifty percent more likely to suffer a heart attack or stroke than patients using enbrel or a competing drug in fact stat analyzed more than half a million reports of adverse events during treatment with rheumatoid arthritis drugs and found evidence that the risks of heart attacks strokes heart failure and other conditions were high or even higher. or for some patients treated with that timmer than they were patients treating with competed drugs in other words out and now they out now lied to the f.d.a. and medical doctors about it ten resigned years the failure of that tumor to carry a proper warning is lead doctors to overly prescribe this medication to individuals who are susceptible to heart in lung injuries and it's led doctors to fail to monitor these patients more closely for potential harm drug makers roche and genentech the manufacturers of temora are now facing thousands of lawsuits plaintiff's attorneys claims that roche and genentech failed to properly test the

temora before placing it on the market they failed to warn doctors and patients that the medication was just as likely to cause serious injuries as competing drugs they concealed evidence of the dangers of the drug from the government in the public and the drug makers misrepresented the safety of the medication in its marketing material and publication pretty much a grand slam of frog patients have a right to be able to make informed choices about what medications they take but when you have a drug company that hides the real dangers of their drugs from doctors it becomes impossible for consumers to make an informed choice and make no mistake that's exactly what big pharma wants because second people the very time they start questioning the safety of a drug the profits of those big drug companies begin to fall.

joining me to talk about this is attorney and dr john risto know john let's start by talking about the condition itself rheumatoid arthritis this disease affects millions of people across the planet yet it still has a bit of mystery as to how ill when it's going to strike somebody you know is that kind of a quick take on it. it is in fact. it does affect predominately women and it's been estimated that approximately one to three percent of women in the united states are infected with this disease as has been mentioned there's no known cause it's in the classroom matic diseases and it's a form of auto immune disease meaning it's where the immune system of the body actually turns on the body itself and stead of attacking bacteria or virus or x. in this agents it actually attacks the tissue within the joints of the body itself

well there's some good medications out there but part of big pharma right now it seems like they're trying to capitalize on on a problem and really they're doing it with a drug like a temora and the only way i can look at these factors to say they've got a company that totally misrepresented the truth about the drug they were selling to millions of people all over the globe what your take. well they had that apparently so the evidence is coming out now to showing that the risks of these very serious adverse events associated with the drug is at least equal to other class the other members of the class of drugs that are used the d.m.a. r.d.s. or disease modifying anti rim addict drugs and these other members of the class are recognized as carrying specific wrist including cardiovascular events such as heart attack and stroke and a form of heart failure and including in that is

a very serious condition that affects the pack reus inflammation the packages are packed three otitis and what has been analyzed now are the reports to the f.d.a. as adverse event data base and the reports being sent in by physicians and patients are showing that these serious adverse events with other drugs. are also being seen with this drug and even at higher levels just how does a company just get away with lying about its clinical zomi that's what happened here we had a company that said look we're different we know that rheumatoid arthritis treatments carry risks but we're different because ours doesn't how does a company just get away with that new case that tenor of the company seemed to downplay the risk but they did the they also told physicians the risks were decreased with activity isn't that what they represented to the american public.

exactly and looking at their clinical trials which were broke typically short in duration so if we're going to start getting adverse events with a particular drug then you want to be able to see drugs that are are powered enough to find these meaning there are enough people in the study and that the studies are conducted for a long enough period of time and first of all it's important to recognize that rheumatoid arthritis carries with it a in a hurry an increased risk of cardiovascular events now the manufacturer may say aha and this particular case individual with a heart attack or a stroke it might be due to the rheumatoid arthritis but when they're taking a medication that increases that risk that's putting that person at obviously an even higher risk of it and it's well known and it's reported from the clinical

trials that it tamra increases the blood levels of all of the cholesterol is in our body meaning the low density lipoprotein known as bad cholesterol and total cholesterol levels and it's well known that cholesterol levels and elevated l.d.l. those are associated with heart attack and stroke john i don't get too much. in the weeds here let me let me stick to what what people need to know and that is the f.d.a. ok they see their rep the f.d.a. hears this message from the manufacturer and that is that gee whiz everything's ok now the f.d.a. knows that they weren't told the truth what does the f.d.a. do now to correct the problem is in a kind of publication campaign or they get into television are they trying to correct this big lie that's out there what's happening. well there's not much happening the f.d.a. has required the manufacturer to conduct post marketing approval studies meaning

phase four studies but that something that many times is not done and can take many years to conduct and in the meantime there is not been a safety alert sent out to physicians they're not being told to evaluate the patients for any of the signs or symptoms of these cardiovascular events that we're seeing with the other drugs so the f.d.a. once again is falling down on the job. well i mean that you bring up the point there are things that can be done once a product is put on the market you can then say ok well we have to do some things now to correct our screw up to begin with when this is another major mess up by the f.d.a. where they're not doing their job there's no other way to put it they could look at the clinical they could see that the clinical were gamed they could have seen if they were missing they could see and if they were stents of enough do a lot of things they could they could look at the power aspect of the studies that

were done but so here they now mess up again the f.d.a. messes up again what and they have ways to correct it they can send out alert letters as you point out they can say they didn't start a public service kind of campaign one of the things can they do john. well there is that they have many things available to them as you just mentioned the public service campaign can be important every patient has a right to know of the serious affects associate with the drugs that they're taking these adverse events that are being recognized with that temora are inherent in the entire class and the other drugs are warning out so the f.d.a. should be sending as we mentioned a safety alert to the doctors so when doctors are putting the patients on these destroyed they're now monitoring them for the early signs and symptoms of cardiovascular disease interstitial lung disease and pack three otitis all of which

have been found to be increased when taking this drug ok now you're sitting here both is a medical doctor and an attorney in both of those wearing both of those hats what is happening with the drug industry in general to where we it's almost weekly where we do a story just like this to where we find out they just haven't told the truth a drug manufacturer has again lied to consumers consumers have died because the company has lied f.d.a. has dropped the ball because the company has lied what is this trend that we're seeing in about thirty seconds or so what your take on this has turned. big pharma is going to continue to do this because of the monetary advantages for as long as they can we can go back to vioxx and in the clinical trials of vioxx they knew there was an increased risk of cardiovascular disease they hid from the f.d.a. and so it came out in the public as more and more people took these drugs it's

exactly what we're seeing with a camera right now the reports to the f.d.a. itself is showing a markedly increased risk yeah and it seems to be what we have to live with i tell everybody unless a drug has been on the market for more than the ten years why would you take a risk with the drug john thanks for joining me coming up dupont is saying forty two million dollars to restore a virginia river poisoned by mercury from a plant that is home that's next. on larry you're watching our america question for. for decades the american middle class has been railroaded by washington politics.

big money corporate it has drowned out a lot of boys that's how it is in the news culture in this country now that's where i come in. i mean it's still on our to you america i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk in the straight. what it will. du pont is set to pay more than forty two million dollars to restore the south river in the wildlife along that river they've been poisoned one one of the former plants in waynesboro virginia was responsible for that high levels of mercury were detected in the one nine hundred seventy s. make it dangerous enough that you couldn't eat the fish in that area for many years joining me to talk about this is john rocker sea news attorney with the environment america john my first question has to be how mercury poisoning in a river and the fish swimming could still be

a problem since this is dangerous levels of mercury were discovered in one thousand nine hundred how how we still have to worry about this why are people longer still having to fight this problem what you know why isn't government done something about this mercury is what we know as a persistent bio cumulative toxin persistent meaning it it stays in the environment pretty much forever bio cumulative meaning it goes up the food chain from the insects to the fish to predators like eagles it bio accumulates there and so and it's also a heavy metal so it stays in the in the sediment for many many many decades this is a huge problem it's going to be very difficult to clean it up. yeah i've dealt with du pont in the ca litigation up in ohio all along the ohio river valley and here is my tell you going to tell me this is sounds familiar it's as if the company understands that they can externalize all of their risks they can simply

put their garbage into somebody else's property and that's the equivalent of one neighbor saying you know i really don't want to have to pay for sewage i think i'll dump it monday abers pool that's called externalizing risk you're just shifting the risk and in the end the taxpayer has to pay for this isn't that exactly what happened here i mean dupont says you know we're just going to take the ship the cheapest route will it taxpayers pay for it we're going to run the risk of harming the health of of citizens all in that area mercury's extremely dangerous causes all types of physical illnesses but they let this go on for decades what your take i mean is this isn't this pure purely simply externalizing rich risk and cost absolutely this a classic example of a polluter x. turn allies in risks as you say and let's remember that this particular dumping episode all of this happened before our landmark environmental laws like superfund

the clean air act the clean water act the safe drinking water act and so forth and so on these laws are designed to ensure that polluters cannot just shift to the risk and don't their pollution on the rest of us that's why it's so important that we enforce these laws and enforce the ability of ordinary citizens to go to court and get justice when those laws are broken. but let me ask about the justice look if i did this to my neighbor i said you know i got some kind of mercury business i want to have to deal with doing what i was for should do but i put it into my neighbor's aco for i could go to prison for that for decades they could throw me in prison now the truth is we know who made these decisions the documents you're going to show it the all of the everything is going to lead us in the right direction of who is responsible for this what has the department of justice done if anything in

regard to what what's happened here where more talk about killing entire species along this river what's your take. well i'm an unaware of any criminal prosecutions in this matter the settlement that you referenced earlier does require dupont to pay more than forty two million dollars to start cleaning up this mess and i'm not suggesting that that is sufficient or enough to deter polluters from similar actions but i do believe it is an important step in the right direction by fish and wildlife services in the state of virginia and i don't get me wrong good job ok i'm glad that was accomplished but at one point don't we have to try new don't we have to change cultural. tendencies but somebody's got to go to jail when they hurt people somebody has to go to jail when they destroy our commons and they know they're not supposed to this is a company that made forty two million dollars while you and i have been having this

conversation and so if you have a company that's a repeat polluter they were you know time and time again you see them doing the same thing at some point don't you say you know we got to have a perp walk for somebody so maybe the next generation will say you know i remember the story of uncle joe having to spend five years in prison for making this wrong decision maybe i should make that decision what is your take on that i know you are very successful in the area of environmental law thank you for what you do and even you've been so tied into it i want to know your take on it because that's mine i absolutely agree with you that there are cases where criminal penalties in addition to settlements for cleanup are warranted i think that the deterrence value that you talk about is critical and we see this across all kinds of industries right you were just talking about the drug industry a couple of minutes ago we could talk about wall street and so forth and so on but

certainly the pollution of our rivers are lakes our streams even the sources of our drinking water are serious enough threats to our. health and our natural heritage that for sure individuals culpable should be held accountable to the maximum extent of the law i agree with you there you know we've we see so many times i could name half a dozen cases i've been involved with where there's been big big companies dupont type companies dow chemical kind of companies where you see the media unwilling to jump in there and really tell the story because of political influence dupont has political influence with this representative or the senator or regulator the media won't pick up on the story because dupont may be a huge advertiser for him and every night they're appearing on the news and somebody else on the fiftieth floor he does the number counts says gee whiz we can't run that story about dupont because they're not advertiser did you did you run into any of that with this story because i got to tell you something i did not

know about fisk and this is the first information i have about this case and i'm a person this involved with environmental cases often what's your take. well i i can't comment on this particular case i'm unaware of any particular influence on media outlets to refuse to cover but i would say that oftentimes state local officials and media outlets are not necessarily jumping on a story about a big polluter that's threatening drinking water or threatening our the air that we breathe and that's why it's so important that citizens have the right to bring suits under the clean water act and under the clean air act to hold these big polluters accountable we in fact our state affiliate in texas environment texas just had a case against exxon for thousands of violations of the clean air act at its huge refinery in texas there and at the end of the day after nearly

a decade of litigation there's nearly a twenty million dollar penalty for exxon to pay as a result of its now thousands of violations there but as you point out that case did not necessarily get all of the media attention that it deserved early on so it's very important to take on these big polluters. yeah the media is more concerned with what kim carr deshon one to an award ceremony last night thank you for being out there you're very effective your organization is effective and i can just tell you without what you do we would be in a lot worse shape environmentally throughout this country thanks for being us being here sure mike. while disney company is facing a federal lawsuit for secretly collecting personal data from kids who are using one of their numerous gaming apps the lawsuit alleges disney shared that illegally with advertisers well they never once sought out the approval of parents george and now

to talk about this is legal journalist trial lawyer magazine journalist in very good legal writer molly barrows molly what exactly does the lawsuit allege that does these doing this time i say this time because they've been in the news quite quite often when yes you're exactly right now actually not too long ago they were in trouble for something similar what they're doing now this lawsuit a federal class action lawsuit filed in california alleges that disney and the software companies that work with them on these gaming apps were illegally spying on these kids learning their habits gathering information and in turning around and selling it to third party advertisers and marketers who are trying to target these kids elsewhere on line or perhaps even their parents because you know a lot of times they're on their parents' digital devices is this kind of a back door to the parents it's another word information is what disney was after now let's not limit the information to what the child has in a school lunch the information goes on to what where does mommy and daddy bank

that's or what kind of core do they drive so this is nothing more than just a black hole that leaves right in to the parent's life the entire family's life i don't understand i mean you know if you look at this if we had a stalker but we just had some some character out there stalking your child trying to find out information about a child are there laws against that i mean there's. talking loosely yes i would be held accountable criminally even just for the intent of trying to deceive or pursue somebody in a predatory fashion show how is this different i'm not following it other than as a corporation isn't the difference you're correct in this lawsuit specifically is saying that they have violated the one thousand nine hundred nine children's online privacy protection act which basically says any company that markets technology like these gaming apps to children under the age of thirteen have to get parental permission verifiable parental permission and basically they're saying that that's not what disney's doing nor the software companies that help them build these game apps and it's not just this one game out it was one in particular that was by far

doing the majority of the stealing of the information according the lawsuit but it was more than forty gaming apps so they're collecting a lot of data and as you know that comes up in any number of lawsuits and accusations of companies stealing your information any time you download an app they want access to your photos your and your contactless this that the other night as you know you can gather so much information about people spending habits and then target ads accordingly and so that's what they think that they're doing well i just want the obey the law i have her move into disney used computer you know i started stripping information about disney were they investing were they putting their move their money what have they been up to in the intertainment business i go to prism i mean there is no difference here there are hurricane by way of moving into these people's lives with a computer game for god and children especially because they're the easy ones to target and it seems innocent enough on the on the outside but again anytime you download an app whether it's a child doing it or an adult at least the adult has enough awareness to say hey

maybe i don't want to download this app or i don't want to do this because the m from a show that they want access to is not something i'm comfortable with the kids you know if they're not getting permission from their parents or looking over their shoulder yes i just want to get the palace pets and i just want to play so of course if there are parents devices are going to able to access all that information in the sausage just wants them to obey the law that maybe that law needs to be. they need to take another look at that children's online privacy protection act i think because it's come up before in other stories with daniel america's a lawyer i'd like to know how many times disney has had people prosecuted for going into their private business this is just this is just another double standard that we see so well off me of course defend themselves just to be on the ad to get the other side and they say that this is just a misunderstanding of cop is that children's online protection at present checks act again and they are looking forward to defending themselves and court oh gee we didn't know how could we understand that we only have what ten thousand lawyers work with us well finally tonight some good news for fliers fed up with the abusive

practices from airline companies the u.s. court of appeals for the district of columbia ruled against the f.a.a. the dismissed the petition asking the agency to stop airline companies from shrinking seat space for passengers this came as airlines were seeking to reduce leg room and seat size which is being done so they could make more money per flight and once again ignore the best interest of passengers so an organization called fliers right petitioned the f.a.a. to create minimum seats standards which the f.a.a. flew out and said you don't have a case here well the f.a.a. said that testing and data doesn't show any danger to passengers to be packed into an airplane like dead sardines in a can in the appellate court disagreed with the f.a.a. is take on that in a statement they said while we don't do not require much of the agency at this juncture we do require something and information critically relied upon by the

agency that no one can see does not count very smart ruling hopefully this decision will help empower citizens to make airline businesses play fair and no longer let them do what they want to do for their own profits it's become an industry that is right at the edge of lawless conduct it's just a matter of time. that's all for night be sure to check us out on our new website it a mall where you can actually talk to an attorney about any of the stories we cover on this show and find us on facebook at facebook dot com slash r t america my passion tony and this is america's lawyer where every week we tell you the stories that corporate media has ordered not to tell because their advertisers won't let them just like this if they a story have a great night. in

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