forces it's not something much appreciated apparently north of the border the scottish government is urging the. government to reconsider these cutbacks and is calling for fresh discussions on the closures on those two particular in parts and one sense is going to be the withdrawal of the armed forces for the first time in history highlands they're all needy in fife and the other aspect of course is the economic impact to puna local areas but cutting the u.k.'s usable military capability is seen as a price worth paying by the so-called deep state in britain who would have thought this man would now defacto support britain's arguably depending on washington's approval capability to destroy the world the clip is courtesy of a newspaper that used it to damage jeremy corbyn in its campaign to unseat him as leader of the british labor party israel security. the ability of a society to provide housing health care social security jobs

education. for its entire population or israel's security to spend a phenomenal amount of money which damages much else of our industrial base on weapons of mass destruction that can only bring danger and threat to the rest of the world well we recently caught up with a tireless campaigner against britain's weapons of mass destruction campaign at the edinburgh festival the scottish politician tommy sheridan was expelled from a historically right wing labor party in one thousand nine hundred nine and he has been to jail for his opposition to british nuclear weapons well ahead of the sixteenth of september i'm with tommy sheridan near it the bar of the gilded balloon theatre in edinburgh told me thanks so much for agreeing to speak to us teresa mayes government maintains absolutely that it is westminster her government self who controls the nuclear deterrent here based here in scotland. should myself healthy. warning because there's a lot of course we don't have

a new independent nuclear deterrent we have nuclear weapons the pin an american trego formulas and think of the bases the ministry of defense absolutely refutes what you just said of your the minister of defense refuted the there was an accident say five lean and several months ago until freedom of information request was able to assure that they would lie and i mean the mislead all that they the minister of defense misled this about weapons of mass destruction in iraq so the idea of the going to mislead is about who's control in nuclear weapons is no surprise tell me about you've been jailed for protesting for as they tell me about fazli in scotland and the nuclear submarine base and safe safe it all is up there given what is going on in the world rate know. we could be exterminated as we speak because let's face it we become

a legitimate target because of the presence of nuclear weapons for to me it was here from edinburgh and glasgow we get an argument all the same that we should maintain this to ted and because it protects jobs no that's the fairing has a running course of one thousand million pounds when billion pounds a year and it got in ts are on the photos and jobs i asked the leader of glasgow city council how many jobs they could mean teen in the beasts of one billion pounds a year and he told me twenty thousand jobs we should be investing in jobs hospitals schools not and euclid weapons i know your arguments are backed up by research so make up it against the arms trade and so it would presume we contract as involved in the plane nuclear base would say it's an advertisement for british sales right around the world that the submarine is there. well the reset

isn't just by talk but a campaign against the arms trade the scottish tree jinyan kong race in terms of the jobs argument the done a major major investigation into this whole argument about how many jobs so many jobs and they come up and said our own four hundred our own four hundred are directly responsible for trade and when you denied then some of the contractual jobs are in the better at rises at its best and we need to have some moral arguments and i remember martin luther king once making the point that when science to think poa runs. we end up worth gay did miss a obs but mass gay did maine and in reality what we have ended up here as we have ended up with on a corner me and a country like britain and america the true largest sales of armaments across the water world all they want to do is see the everybody and then go on about host

terrible little so in the war the truth is we profit from war that's why there's so many wars the use to me adams because of war no the me where the sale even of the labor leader gerry corbin for many decades ricks has made in the personal points in the book his favorite to be the next prime minister what do you think about the fact that the murdoch's l a times some time ago said it interviewed a seam is serving general in the forces saying that there would be mutiny in the military if germany kovan was ever to become. prime minister the british establishment which is rotten to the core and completely utterly undemocratic will do all in its power to stop jeremy corbin ever been elected just as the that all in a power to stop scottish independence let's face it here when in september two thousand. and for team scotland was on cusp of buddy king one of the more

successful and longest seven imperialist organizations in the planet the more globalized and the thunder not the give us every single lie every single thursday all of the bullying that you could think of and all of the to try and maintain this on equal but union know that they would not only have gracie they won but they would when the next team and then release into jeremy jeremy he knows jeremy noise and he thought he doesn't talk much about drug nowadays and well but well it's jeremy and let's face it is arguing he realizes that this shouldn't be able to i think isn't wonderfully compassionate a particular mine he's a man who is on a integrity command of his eels and i hope sincerely that he becomes the next prime minister of britain my what

a with jeremy and he knows this better than me you know love advisors and i'm sure join mcdonnell in particular will give him this advice has not till instincts to build but a gees he as a compassionate man which makes them a forgiving mind and he will i think try and bring people into the tent rather than it's called them from the taint but the lessons of history of there to be read you look at what's happening in venezuela in relation to our gooney or proximity to build our new society not just in venezuela but across latin america and perhaps more do too and a lot of clyde took or made the some of the opponent highly that they have to destroy this new movement destroy this new hope sometimes some things you have to expose what your opponents are up to and meet people know what that are up to and you. schooled them from poa jeta me i hope those lessons because ethie is ever on

the cusp of taking poem but i think the forces of reaction will become vicious against them an f. you consider what happened in the seventy's in relation to the fia our own government when openly most botton if you read these memoirs talked about ho the pla and the coup the british coup which was two or more through with their idea of a woman and a government do you think the law meet and just note the client who overthrew a potential corben government of course they are all on this over the some of the guardian newspaper quoted sources maybe official from the u.k. judge that inquiry into british secret police infiltration of a thousand political groupings that were that were infiltrated by british secret police the names of the groups weren't released do you think your groups you've been associated. will be on that list of justice pick for ever if you could ever

releases people and scotland who are aware of some of the political bottles of personally been involved and against the regime and the people's will know that i accuse mob of illegally tapping foods of illegally bugging cowards of illegal infiltrating movements with either of the police and special branch and to be quite frank i was recommended for the wait cooper to good in new is these people know don't accuse me of needing the weight brigade to lead me are we to the neatest asylum because everything i said was happening so from my point of view there's no don't the left and protect eleven the three g. new movement as a riven with the tape of infiltration boris johnson the foreign secretary is reportedly signed off on on keeping secret evidence of sex just a jack straw on his role in the. the use of boards to kidnap people for torture was

what happened about that in school and you know do people know here where the and the breath were pressed for example to glasgow airport is currently being used by the americans who we don't know for certain we have videos leaks including from wiki leaks which a left and i remember when i was in the scottish parliament up until two thousand and seven we were reading these things in two thousand and five two thousand and six and we were asking the scottish ministers to assure us that scottish airports we're not being used for rain deshon for eleven effectively illegal kidnappings to talk to individuals and the scottish menace those were the knee and bought us a position that they could not get as those got in teeth and just finally i mean as far sectarianism goes in in scotland it was now scotland being a factor run by. in a sort of coalition party like the d p previously linked to to

paramilitaries do you think they'll ever be a johns of us james corden least that you're here in edinburgh well know if they do you had this we of course and we should be recognizing the giants that james calling lee ward's eve is someone who supported the unity of the catholics and the protestants together he was someone who was scottish he was an irish people think it was an irishman he went over there after ireland to try and unite the three junior movement and connolly wasn't a practicing catholic he was always a practical he was an upright some calvin a tall he actually oppose a legend because he thought religion was misleading the walking classes he talked to the need to raise the red flag rather than just the tricolor and ireland then i think here in scotland we should have the ability to recognise that he is a mine of beauty historical importance or was born the i'm not

a million miles from where we are we should be a great thing statues and recognizing that he stood not for sixty eight in his i'm not for the diversion of the walking class but for the unity of the walking class and that's the tape of politics surely that we should be trying to implore people to in brief i the idea of hoop one feel hope for the future and a society that's beast or put people not profit tortured and thank you. after the break unemployed in undervalued how three decades since award winning playwright jim cartwright's debut play road thatcherites policies are still ripping apart the social fabric of the north of england plus fancy being a spy is it my five is recruiting new agents we are whistleblower on the machine why does the agency fail to stop terrorists on their watch list. committing attacks

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who probably global need coffee cup the dalai economy in the bushes up the on sobs knock up the supposed it to me of a good part of my blood. is a tourist phobia fulfill phone tone identity. seemed wrong. just don't call. me. yet to say proud. to come to advocate and in again from an equal betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. welcome back one year ago hugo survey revealed that

a majority of those who support jeremy corbyn leader of the british labor party believe that m i five spies are working to undermine him by inference british democracy itself well twenty years ago my fives only measure went on the run for exposing alleged criminality by britain's secret homeland security organization she's been in london to speak about russian going that she joins me now thanks for going back also before snowden and julian assange is wiki leaks there was mercial and shayla just describe what happened twenty years ago when you were on the road yes david shayler and i both worked and i five for six years each three different postings and we saw so many things going wrong at the time which we raised internally and were told to shut up and not rock the boat and we decided to go public to report these crimes now under u.k. law the official secrets act one thousand nine hundred nine that would make automatically criminalize if you bear in mind in the one nine hundred ninety s. it was probably the only decade that was marginally ethically golden in the one hundred year history and i say this because the cold war ended and that meant that

they'd stopped investigating political activists in the u.k. largely it meant that they were put on a legal footing for the first time it meant it was a notional oversight within parliament with the i.c. intelligence and security committee and they were no longer involved in issues like enhanced interrogation techniques they learned the hard way in the northern ireland issue that they cause counter reprisals so fast forward after nine eleven and you look at what's gone wrong again not just within the u.k. the u.s. intelligence agencies but also the u.k. intelligence agencies where indeed m i five has been implicated in torture which issue which q. has been building up these mass surveillance programs which have only after sixteen years of illegal use been legalized was the main thing that you expose them. to the case that made it quit was when david shayler who was head of the libyan section in one thousand nine hundred ninety six was officially briefed by his m i six counterpart about a plot to depose or cessna colonel gadhafi of libya. and in this case and i six it funneled up one hundred twenty thousand dollars to al qaeda associates in libya to

carry out this proxy attack as we've seen since gadhafi assassination by the very same back groups in two thousand and eleven we've seen what happened to libya it's fragmented it's become a haven for terrorists it's kind of stepping off point for the mass migration into europe get off he for all his faults provided stability for his countrymen and he provided a bulwark against it was that the same plan that was in the works of the one go in pieces of paper being shuffled about in there were five things due to the structure i think was exactly the same plan it was done in full glare of the world's media with this nato humanitarian intervention ism when david reported his story it was this massive secrets and he had to go to prison twice for exposing this so the moral slide in those intervening years of the lack of shame of what the intelligence agencies now do publicly i think is very concerning for all our democracies you mentioned torture in northern ireland to resume only as prime minister because of our alliance with the party linked to protestant paramilitaries today used to call and talk about atrocities committed by the ira apparently there

were connected with there were five even though you could tell me right well if i did i would automatically be arrested and prosecuted under efficient secrets act and you quite possibly would also be arrested and prosecuted under section five of the n.s.a. and this is about enough law but what they're actually proposing now is going to law commission review just this year they are going to strengthen make it more muscular and what they're talking about is instead of a whistleblower facing two years we would automatically get fourteen years in prison and journalists two could face fourteen years in prison for reporting the crimes that were exposed by was very good the geneva convention or whatever it was not clear exactly and i think one way to question people might have about recent terror attacks atrocities why is it the always we here knows the people that commit the atrocities well it's not just m i five this is a pattern that's emerged across europe and across north america. and i think one of the explanations and this is what a number of n.s.a. american with lawyers have also said is that because we've got these massive alien

flaws now which is creating this tsunami of information on all of us the actual target is information is being overlooked and not followed up effectively the only thing that makes intelligence work different from police work is if you are doing preemptive targeted work to get the preventive intelligence to stop atrocities to stop attacks that is what intelligence agencies should be doing not just spying on us all missing the information and then saying after an attack we can find out who did it find out what the connections are that's evidence of police work is not intelligence work you've been told before about every six information operations department placing stories in the media deliberately to benefit whatever policies they have what you think of the new boss alex youngers as propaganda from hostile states poses a quote fundamental threat to european democracies many of them people thinking he was referring to russia perhaps this very every intelligence agency is going to try and do this try to gain leverage an advantage but for the whole of the western media hypocritically just to focus on what russia might be getting up to and also

inventing stories about them in the process of creating this fake russia gate narrative is the height of hypocrisy and i think people should stop being naive about our intelligence agencies being the goodies the russians the chinese are always the baddies they're all doing same stuff they all have the same role to protect their own nations and just finally arguably the every five plot of the didn't get it that way five husband got germany corbin if those who believe that i was trying to destroy german corben are right it was a mature actually these intelligence agencies are less and was very much so i think the public very well aware of how fake news works they're not a stupid is the main that many people in the media and government like to think but yes in terms of what they might be doing about corbin i can't speak about that i've been out of the service for twenty years however i do remember working andrew porkers the new head yeah i remember him as well but i do remember there were only mr working enough to david it which was the kind. fashion section counteracted it and section david tonight or a whole range of different files held on people who then became government

ministers many of them in the labor party and yes caught in in the state did have a file so perhaps there have been we haven't any measure. well for the failures of mass surveillance to the success of mass movements as the united states elevates the achievements of trade unions and workers rights today on labor day but across the pond british politicians lauding the shrinking disparity between former mining communities in the north of england with the metropolises of the south of arguably failed to acknowledge the growing inequality across the u.k. as average salaries in the midlands wales no higher than they were in the southeast of england almost twenty years ago joining me now is award winning poet and playwright and chancellor of the university of manchester who thirty years since playwright jim cartwright's debut production road came to the stage in bodies the narrator scullery of the royal court in london until the ninth of september eleventh thanks so much for going back or let's ignore the fact that among the reverse reviews the even the daily mail like you in the player in the play about

the plays a one road in a town in one thousand nine hundred six which is when margaret thatcher ravish to the northwest of england and i know that because i was part of it i lived there then. there's about one road where a series of incredible people. have had their livelihoods taken away from them. really afford to live in the way that they'd always known it's almost as if somebody is coming to their homes and taking away everything that they need taking a bit of the electricity away taking the food from the cupboards offered them a hole so that they can get over some of their own pain etc it's about the demoralize ation of people and the poverty of aspiration. tragic that play set

among. the black monday stock exchange crash of eighty seven already the big bang in the city that it looks like no ninety six. it looks so much like twenty seventeen this is what people are saying in see in the play that don't tiffany at the royal court saying it's worse now yeah yeah and hopefully playwrights who are writing about now and poets who are writing about now will speak with the same kind of anger. as jim cartwright spoke in this play thirty years ago i think that's why it's find in relevance with the audience is of london and of england it's because it speaks to now the place speaks to. you know there was a fire in london in a block of flats. which i'm sure you've heard about we started to ask the question why don't we know about the people who were inside that tower how how they become

so invisible this play is about people who are not see and i mean there are obviously mass council local government cuts to pay off all the losses from the city of london your character says the town like the sign has been broken for years and we have this welcome to lancashire here i mean right from the outset the whole town is broke well this sign is interested in welcome to a place where everyone matters and the people in the road at the. royal court. they are they feel that they don't matter anymore you know like she was a place of industry where there were mines and there were the mills that's where i was brought up and people out of sense of purpose a reason to live and if you take away that purpose from people they also start to lose a reason to be might or if you haven't seen the play but you do do

a dance with a shopping trolley it's one of those moving things i think in the play yes. describe what that during that scene if. there is a character called valerie who speaks of what it is to be the one i thought of a horse been who was strong and who was a worker and who no longer works who drinks a lot and comes home and she's waiting for him and she is she she wants things to be as they were and they're not and he hits he drinks more he the family structure is crumbling and she's alone at home waiting for him and speaking of him and she answers speech with camino before again can we not and at that moment the music of swan lake fills the

theater. with an empty shopping trolley very symbolic of what was happening to that road time in the economic depravity and. she disappears and i dance swan lake with a shopping trolley with one thing in it which is a music box which i had found in a derelict house and. the trolley at some point lifts off the ground and i'm i hold it and spin it around and around around this incredible music and. yet it can be able to medical so many things if that's right consumer. movement so it will just finally one thing does come to the rescue just reading how i was that that was the only have occasion of some kind of root out of the misery of of neo liberalism i suppose

northern soul. it was a direct connection between soul music and the north west of england i don't know how it happened but black musicians would travel from america where the time they couldn't get the same they had to sit at the back of a book they couldn't drink water out of the same water fountain as a white person it was basically apartheid that was happening in america but those black musicians would travel over to england paid for by the people of the northwest performing in the clubs in these working class clubs i can't believe i'm saving now but this is what happened throughout the northwest of england throughout lancashire right to the heart of this play one full song of otis redding fills the hearts of these characters gives them hope and release all of the tensions. thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday

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