strategy to cause fear they decided to increase the threats new tax on all citizens who want to vote to decide their future and they've done it and it's not an x. tonight it was at the beginning of this week which is going to be decisive because we're proving the referendum law. ok to discuss the issue further not joining by an advocate for scottish independence from the u.k. jonathan shafi jonathan welcome what do you expect the i come up today parliamentary session to be an catalonia. well i think fein wising the detail of the referendum and that will take place in the first of october but i think as you can of story just pointed out there what we're looking at is a kind of ratcheting up of fear of there's been eighteen occasions in which the spanish status and to fiend in some way or another to prevent there being a referendum and that goes along say the whole cds of other replace of measures which have been deployed smeaton politicians we see today and of course

intimidation of that vests and so on but there's a huge movement as we know in catalonia for catalonia independence and their demands of a simple one that democracy should have the last word and the last word should therefore be given to the people well spain's president indeed has already said that he would reject any catalan decision to hold a vote are they going to push ahead anyway. well i think the point where they are going to have to keep pushing and they're going to have to use a whole range of tactics and i certainly think that holding a referendum well be an extra piece of evidence that the people of catalonia want independence but more than that i think it's no getting to such a state of tension between the spanish state and catalonia that actually something's got to give and i think the base way to resolve this and i think democrats across you know have. i have

a duty in fact to stand up and see that the base we have is over in this is to load democracy to take place in the hands of the council and people. of the spanish we just brought right to the break whether we like it or not jonathan shall feed from the radical independence campaign thank you this hour and that's all we have for now see you often are. an option or times you were going underground as today russian president vladimir putin and the japanese prime minister shinzo are meet to discuss korea involves stock coming up on the show is a mafia like cartel turning the screws behind a brick set franco frattini italy's forward foreign minister gives us a cautionary tale of how a paris washington by the conspiracy brought down the italian government and his

take on britain's post brooks it's a bible and is ice is the new one direction for some british muslims we speak to award winning stand up comedian. about blaming the kardashians for young british women joining isis down there as a regional actual to a kicks off at ilkley literature festival in the next few weeks from the headlines we reveal hillary clinton's curious combination of facts and spin on the royal father the baby who is great with a chopper all the more coming up in today's going underground but first u.k. prime minister trace of me off to no doubt congratulating princess diana's son on soldering another baby will be protesting nuclear proliferation on the korean peninsula at today's prime minister's questions that's despite her proliferation of nuclear missiles for all we know off the coast of pyongyang on submarines which she says she would order to fire to kill millions she has previous on supporting british catastrophic foreign policy and it's in that context that you will answer

questions with seemingly no one says about the ongoing brics it negotiations before the summer holidays foreign secretary boris johnson said the e.u. should go whistle if it wanted money from the u.k. . is it entirely appropriate question well the chief negotiator has replied to johnson on the do. or is not any. just clock ticking and as the clock ticks who better to explain the mafia like power of european leaders than italy's former foreign minister and someone who like bonnie has served as the e.u. commissioner then judge franco frattini he was also a candidate to be nato secretary general and he joins me now from rome greg thanks so much for coming on the show what's the michel barnier like what do you expect him to tell the u.k. when the ranks of negotiations resume in ten days or so well i don't meet each other very well used to be my call there just for i mean is there used to be my call there or around a table of european commission is

a very tough negotiator to point that to be to be taken into consideration and one thing is to defend european interests why are negotiating if framework agreement or any number of agreements dead are not to the detriment to european cities and other think that would be wrong would be to punish u.k. i think michelle will go along that line defending europe while not punishing u.k. very very diplomatic response by any of course was appointed in the french cabinet under sarkozy and some alarming accusations food one but it from a bomb as former treasury secretary tim geitner saying psycho's the muckle. barney is boss has sought to conspire to overthrow your then leader silvio berlusconi and while i can shore really askew me showed barney and

being a part of dead game cold he was parked for shore because the former treasury secretary said something that i lived through at that time and the italian foreign minister but deep you know during the g twenty. meet the nice and the presidency a presidents article o.c. the trio son coles the law guard and merkel has a lot of they try they try to push all their d'italia in government to accept their monetary fund and to accept each only the so-called troika berlusconi been mentally refuse such as possibility and opportunity dead would that be a nightmare fall into a lead at get ball meant cording to what the former treasury secretary spelling in his book obama said i cannot go fodder i cannot even bulls even set

i don't want to have my hands with the blood of mr berlusconi effect ok that sounds asuka's is going to langley merkel is still there god of course is still there i mean are you saying that these sorts of people conspired to overthrow italian democracy because merkel is still there she is a strong but in this brics of negotiation in debt in debt mom meant marco became much more prudent and has the time to earn some cause he was not as he thought anyway merkel said if the reasons that a refusal from the chalion government we cannot impose as you say mommy tabby the presence of troika and these is why debt d. don't happen with each other he than the government of mr monti came is this recent either the past history but that tamped failed because

before that mr obama and after that ms america wet became reluctant following the very stronger position from lerner's gold he's lost a lot of the reasons why our government shall go down it kills up. speculation because of this thread but dad had been such as a temp gauge during bowls troika need to eat fortunately we do not accept and it's now two years since the body of three year old kurdish refugee alan kurdi washed up on the shores of europe a testament to the fact that your and your leader berlusconi's policies from libya to syria as regards what the was doing have been vindicated. well i think what happened in the late as. late as either or two years ago three years ago last year is here was very detrimental fall into lee

and for europe as a whole there was a wrong policy concerning immigration every few g.'s crisis each only has been left alone will no doubt all the now with the new president of france and wizard new position taken by merkel of germany things are moving in the right direction but only because the current government of italy and particularly the minister of interior mr media and the prime minister ginty lonny are doing what we used to say even as any and single we have to have before they reach the china schwartz not after these wasn't a serious mistake doing nothing until they reach sicily when they reached easily

they are not in italy they are in europe now they are working on the all region countries on the transit countries by promoting a prescreening of aspiring migrants and refugees to understand who are entitled to reach europe and who are not these is the right policy but unfortunately the toll ears and ears for a few are maisha of this very same people principle these are new repeat problem this is not a c.c.m. or any. difficult for a united european union then given the behavior of germany in other countries towards italy during this this horrific refugee crisis. well i think germany realize deep a dramatic impact of refugees cries is only when they sold the squares of munich and the squares o.p.m.

full all migrants leaping into squares and in history it's a riding through the so-called bold kind of grooved never before they had to realize it real dramatic impact that he suffered for years in sicily in companion to roll mean men nor do peter he only suddenly day realize oh all of these are a problem also for all three year olds so for him gary also for germany indebted more meant they sat is the moment to open the doors to chatter know the migration and refugees through legal ways legal channels by helping translate counties like jerky or origin countries like shot or need jack well nigeria all had bad moment mirka chand their opinion on debt

fortunately she changed that very late ok the let alone above are those african countries and the and the core could libya was arguably of course syria trump is cut off funding for the cia backed is the mists of trying to overthrow assad how big a mistake was it if people like to raise a may to support the white helmets and other islam ists to overthrow assad in syria while a look italy had been requested many times to provide weapons to so-called rabbits we always refuse data request coming from president obama's united states because they used to respond gulag de de la. ah de rio it defending liberty and rides or are all still jihadist groups ready to transform their

five for liberty in another jihadist option unfortunately we were right and mary was wrong in providing weapons in helping in giving money because doles so many rebels truly to be jihadist linked to north route to i'll hideout and so on and so for obama administration made any number of mistakes in syria trump and ministration be showing still unclear to see show the only positive thing to do is to walk in coordination with the russian federation on the corolla and the well known of nato policy if it is we've indeed helping those so-called moderate rebels seize the enemy as russia if you had become secretary general of nato instead of against ultimate what would you be saying about the threat posed from russia to the you know well russia is not if an

eight at all to do european union we are looking now at serious international cries is the latest on the north korean nuclear bloddy for asian we have been looking at the proliferation of diversion and we had been fighting in a cold war atmosphere against the russian federation and that on the contrary is one of the strongest fires in fighting diet and stop the lies in the middle east so it has been a mistake made by nato it does mean any state by refraining from good cooperation and going to had we don't all strategy of containment all easy i was alarmed a lot of those who signed the prouty got him out. remember when building shape and and said in the future it will be culture we will be cooperating always against terrorism unfortunately tried to get him out of some meat you seem to past and

current situation is much more patterns frag over t.v. thank you after the break from russia with love but is it from some trip a why would reading stand up comedienne zimmer's it thinks the cold war is being waged not baltic borders but the white sandy beaches of the cold does or on from the headlines we explore a political power lies province and the war games which may not be war games much longer coming up about to going underground. in moscow with. mark zuckerberg at first but. arguing about artificial intelligence

is going to destroy the world. says maybe we'll mark zuckerberg is already the world so why does he care let's find out. welcome back to the mass killing of civilians by the u.s. u.k. coalition continues in syria something that may not be so emphasized by today's report published in geneva on human rights violations in that country but every one of the tens of thousands of air strikes by aria and u.s. planes represents profits for the arms trade something that will be brought into sharp relief as london hosts its largest arms for next week difficult questions of a britain's arms trade alone arguably to resume trying to sell weapons to saudi arabia's. foreign minister in downing street recently are often put to one side in mainstream media instead there's arguably the demonization of islam and muslims one award winning stand up comedian and actress has emerged sets out to deconstruct the

myths of mainstream narratives and we caught up with the edinburgh fringe where she launched her new show with love from sam to pay it to his internationally until may twenty eighth. i mean a noisy gilded balloon tears are in edinburgh with the comedian. and your new your new comedy show this touring all around the country maybe around the world and around the world obliquely addresses the problem of russian in full generation around the world and russia in portray should everywhere i mean my show is called with love from central pay and the russians are just everywhere i've been on holiday to south of the precinct india pakistan all of ructions the whole world is turning russia they even running the american government they're everywhere. exactly this is true now you are famous for having to change the titles of your shows for fear of of death. yet and your venues in which you do your shows by have

already die of people who only kill me in russia when they've seen when they've heard about what i've said about them and we will have to get cover from the russian embassy on this of course in britain my last show that i did was called the called actually and made me do it and it was a satire about ice it's about why i thought that young girls were going to join isis which is because i think that they think that the mental health which a lot of them all you know they see these men and all yes a bit of war on your mac childcare it got guns all yeah the one direction for some young muslim women i think seriously it was sexual i don't think it's anything to do with religion or politics and i think i'll go to you know the kardashians made me do it because when these three girls first have to go to syria their parents were called into the government by britain and said. why would george is going to syria and the sister said a comment just on why she's gone she used to watch the kardashians you know and that is what they told the government of our country a clear cause of it i mean i blame the kardashians for everything but not isis used

to call it the same sure that you go the road to baghdad used to be called the road twelve baghdad a after you know the founder of isis so-called so-called self appointed and that if they had just told you the they were worried that they might get killed so they said can you tell it it down so i changed it to the confessions made me do it so now they've got the kardashians after them which is a lot more serious but you know any of the comedy shows in the plus fifty years that have had this problem i do yeah i think reginald d. hunter had a lot of controversy with his the titles of his shows and people because they use the n. word in some of the titles of his show so he got a lot of stick from people you call with. that because everyone knows the jewish contribution to humor is disproportionate then in comedy and you said it's about loving through dr james in that it's the muslims will go to the jewish contribution to terrorism i was to get all that to be won i'm going to fight

a little bit what do you mean about comedy during dark times in that way well obviously we're living in a dark time not just the way we look but it is a dark time generally trump and everything and russia running america now i mean it's very serious business the russian government doesn't believe it but there you go in course russia denies everything but they all in full tracy everywhere i mean not just in all sushi but in you know on oh you know they're on our beaches and they're in our governments or in our politics and they're everywhere you look it's only when people used to say that about us goddamn everywhere now is the russians there are very everywhere ok what about what happens to a young comedians career when they keep making jokes at the expense of they die by the time like rape because they're decided. arabia do you ever think that you know maine will be a great idea to tell jokes against one of britain's closest partners overseeing a very on ice is not really fans of my comedy they don't like

a lot of they don't really like it have a bit of a joke and a human like that they're not really into comedy and they never really come to my shows and so they don't even know what i'm doing which is great it's the only news journalists know that there have been british attempts to overthrow the government of syria oversleep why is it in the real housewives of isis which you were you were involved in i'm not in the real housewives i want to know i'm still single i'm not in the know did in the us was about the isis don't want which it would have been to go once a wife who's a comedian i've tried i mean i've tried i've tried all watched we all watched by the way in areas where battles are going on against isis so. i mean they can always write in if they are talking like her but these people are not educated they call read they can write they've got no sense of huma they don't have sex they don't have relationships that's why they're blowing people up well we'll invite the sister to one and try and refute those claims. you greg dyke the former director

general of the b.b.c. said that the statement a to b b c is hideously white. sixteen years ago since i don't generalize that white is that much better than i like my western was is it much better for a dangerous woman in britain oh my god it's white to them white the problem is i mean i think i'm white i mean this is a this is a problem you know i go on stage and i think i'm white and i talk like i'm white and i'm totally unaware of my color so i don't get gigs in jobs and then i realise i'm not white the course of a salary is recently released at the b.b.c. my boss and mine didn't make it nearly expect when it's about women of color getting a look in when it was white women that with the scandal was about over them this is pay at the b.b.c. the thing is i know. i've got some friends who work at the b.b.c. asian women and you know the like they don't do they don't just do one job cleaning stink no they're broadcasting they're being promoted now and the thing is you don't really see an asian woman doing one job she just said because she loves working

it's nation work ethic i know i'll friend a she should present five different programs on t.v. radio she didn't even make the list and her father is really disappointed because she does lie why are you not on the list or the white women are what you feel yeah you know so we need to be able to these this because it's a measure of our success but we're not on the iraqis to do with i mean it's a model you know and i feel feminism is a white thing for white middle class women about white middle class women who love signing petitions that's all they do so determine sign petitions well we'll have all the details of your upcoming shows around the country and maybe why when i go there i know that i need to watch audience because already with the money to pay for the tickets to come and watch me so i do need the white people ok well but everyone as well that up at our website shows you. that interview done at the edinburgh fringe festival and someone who's off to the edinburgh fringe is never to pick broadcaster and former liberal democrat member of

parliament at the fringe this year performed last year oxidants even the all that's just terms is a more serious issues on this from the daily post but yes soldier you don't want to cover are soldiers british soldiers going to the killing of pregnant women in yemen you want to cover this soldier stick to the story you got here often daily posts in my story you don't like nice it's a nice story for anglesey helicopter pilot expecting far child one of your favorite royal family members here as you can see the duke and duchess of cambridge i think it's very interesting that any of this is even from the mirror saying that the two child policy to raise them is government because of austerity is it i mean how is it they manage to be able to pay for child. i think she's off saying i think they can afford it you are saying we're going to forward it to hold on a second for your the one of the names of these people bring untold happiness to the country that is sure now if you thought the same happiness some people would

celebrate if you had three children and tourists really no one visits paris given that they executed in their oil. is that what you are almost treason that you're implying that be our king for the royal family be happy with the country the majority of whom are still royal it's get with it suck it up and see what the latest poll of because of the women religious fervor during the first forty eight hours which said something different nothing to do with it nothing to do with just forgotten about our daily lives or even we've made our day and it was treated as a matter ok let's go to something more serious now and perhaps return to war who knows was this could be the case politics home says do you need a place shin fein for deadlock at the storm and talks this is the long running deadlock the paralysis at the hands of nor the night in politics what's good shout of more than a minister shadow sector stay for normal for ten years we were delighted when we got the peace process going on we got the good friday agreement this isn't so tidy but on the face of it what it looks like is

a difficult situation so much better than what we had before the house shouting than shooting and we're nowhere near that shooting environment at the moment also there's a subtext here insiders have told me that shane fein who did fabulously well in the assembly elections are pitching for majority if they play their cards right they could be the biggest party in northern ireland at the same time the do you can see that coming as well they're playing brinkmanship and hardball with each other ironically they agree on some of the fundamentals they're both socialist parties they both like to have a big handout from westminster but this is a double edged sword on one side and the longer it goes the more dangerous it is in terms of peace long long european socialist bertie the d u p a clearly left wing because what they support but in terms of what the mix of the two. things nationalism and left right wing economic policy are two different things and this is the irony adult son surprising but the d.p. and chin fein have very little difference in terms of wanting state funding the

difference here is ideological in terms of united ireland but also very practical one of them wants to come out on top and at the moment it's not clear who that would be is better to be on the eve of a return to war than within the war itself i think it's true yes ok let's go to this one because apparently it was of you or the other politicians in parliament that help for the peace process i love this story the news web the n.w. says why did hillary clinton endorse this terrible media starts out with it but what i'm talking about here is very it's come up with wonderful idea you can have authenticated factoids and not making up the wordplay and use real news factoids factoids so that if you tweet something or put it on facebook it can have an authentication code to proving through it's true here's a slight problem it also says and i quote a media platform for the sixty five point eight percent that's the percent they say voted for hillary clinton now call me old fashioned in the old days when i was in politics sixty five point eight percent would have been a majority it's not in this so it's been

a better than true college system well ok plainly that i was about the very desire you on here but the point about the very day is it says clearly that you get an authentic ancient code so you can match it up to show that it's not fake news so i saw in the other day lembit oh big. actually making starting accusations about your private life and that very people who just forge the code put it up and you put in more love it reminds me of the corbin warnings one of which was called unlikely to explode at very high temperatures warns me this is the same kind of thing it's an invitation for mockery but it will be on the cd but it is a reminder that we can all be great grateful for her because she apparently was instrumental in the northern ireland peace process wonder if that could be verified after yes because hillary clinton has me to buy a new will peace prize winner exaggerating her claims are being held. in all the knowledge you remember her did you hang out with her i didn't hang out with her but she was there while bill clinton definitely did have an impact made a difference technically she made a difference as well i suppose because she was physically there but the extent to

which northern ireland would be in a better or worse place without her that's debatable widely seen as a monster everyone presumably by these two stories is reminded that had she been president of the united states during the current korean crisis we might have to be in even doing this paper review i suspect we don't have an authentication code for that one that's going to punch this one isn't much to laugh about kind of punch reports what the media isn't telling you about north korea's missile tests now we all know we've all seen that north korea arguably sent unarmed rocket flying right over japan causing the air raid sirens to be set off a highly pretty provocative he's a madman he's crazy all you're talking about. kim not donald well by the way by the way donald this is all you hear just as yet nor the not the allies to south korea have been launching the most spectacular war games along that demilitarized zone to show force against kim jong un to show what he could face

well that's right and of course that's correct but to say that say to your well i'm on the side of actually truth authentication code coming up now to code for seven three to four do you think you should show force to kim jong un and threaten his country which has twenty percent of its population was killed by britain america or you shouldn't it's a completely meaningless to set all these bombs off along the border this isn't for north korea's story well seoul doing that well it's not really seoul it's washington and so their problems on all sides is like charlottesville actually far simpler than that what we've got here is massive saber rattling not for the home market on that peninsula it's for the world stage both sides know they've both got nuclear weapons that's not the determinant this is one of those classic examples when a superpower is trying to threaten another state and lo and behold when the other state threatens back. that's the story when it's right the history and at the moment it looks like america thank you for the show will be back on saturday. prime minister's questions returned with a new pencil cases. of the day u.s.

cobra helicopters fired on a crowd of civilians reportedly killing one hundred women and children as part of the u.n. peacekeeping mission. demonstrating the deployment of a u.s. defense system inside. the united states military base in. is hit by a suicide explosion the taliban claimed responsibility it was in retaliation for an offensive leaflets distributed by. government forces with russian support.