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the u.n. security council approves new sanctions against north korea over its latest nuclear test with kim jong il earlier threatening washington with pain and suffering if the resolution passes. pro independence protesters take it to the streets of barcelona on catalonia national day just three weeks ahead of a succession referendum bandha by madrid. and terrified regretful and looking for a way back home the families of the eisel finders await their fate in a refugee camp in iraq and he is among the first news networks to gain access to that camp. the un has. these women's faces not to reveal the names
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and most importantly not to tell anyone where they are being held. and broadcasting live from our studios in moscow this is our international john thomas glad to have you with us and the u.n. security council has unanimously adopted a new sanctions resolution against north korea resolution prohibits countries from buying textiles from north korea or issuing new work permits for north korean workers also puts a cap on pyongyang's oil imports but this is a big step back from what was originally proposed by the u.s. or just give them up and explain. this is a very different resolution than the draft that was circulated by the united states the original draft of the resolution that the u.s.
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circulated have actually called for a full oil and natural gas embargo against the d.p. r. k. forbidding north korea from importing any oil or natural gas well the resolution that just passed is far different simply caps the amount of oil and natural gas that north korea can import now the original draft that was being circulated furthermore called for a freezing of the assets of kim jong il and an a travel ban on north korea's leader forbidding him from leaving north korea that was not included in the resolution that just passed now immediately after it was unanimously passed by the fifteen members of the u.n. security council quite a change in tone from u.s. leaders regarding north korea we heard nikki haley speaking before the u.n. security council today and kind of calm tone saying that the north koreans have not passed a point of no return that there are peaceful and diplomatic solutions to the crisis but we've heard some very different words from nikki haley herself as whether as well as other u.s. officials in relation to north korea let's take
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a listen to what was said today as well as what has been said in the past few weeks we are not looking for a war the north korean regime has not yet passed the point of no return if it agrees to stop its nuclear program it can reclaim its future if it proves it can live in peace the world will live in peace with its nuclear threats show that he is begging for war a massive military response of the regime both objective and overwhelming the shield stands guard. and the sword stands ready. they will be met with fire and. we also heard from the representative of the russian federation now the ambassador for the russian federation he talked about how russia's opinion and russia's perspecta. if has been and russia maintains that it is not acceptable for north korea to have nuclear weapons furthermore he went on to emphasize the
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proposal the double freeze proposal put forward by the united by the double freeze proposal put forward by russia and china calling for a freeze in provocative military drills in the south and in exchange for a freeze on nuclear proliferation and provocative activities from the north this is the ambassador of the russian federation speaking before the u.n. security council. it's a big mistake to underestimate this russian chinese initiative it remains on the table at the security council and we will insist on it being considered now the resolution that was just passed emphasized the call for the six party talks to resume from day one russia and china have called for negotiations and a diplomatic solution to the crisis and an easing of tensions on the korean peninsula and it seems that that view put forward by russia and china from the beginning of this crisis has prevailed with the resolution being passed by the fifteen member body the u.n.
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security council michael maloof a former pentagon official and richard becker from the answer coalition give us their take on the new resolution. i think the countries that are that would be most directly impacted on this namely russia and china really sought to show dissatisfaction on the one hand but not so much that it would cripple the the cripple know the north korean government to the point that it would cause kim jong il and the leader to lash out militarily and that's why you see the sanctions that were originally proposed by the united states being heavily watered down so they can at least show some degree unanimity on the one point but not so much as to bring the regime to its knees i think that they wanted some action to be taken and they knew that china and i believe also russia would not call on with what the draft was it was really recipe for extinction for north korea korea has
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also said that if there's a peace treaty signed between them and the united states and there's a halt to those maneuvers they would suspend nuclear and missile tests but the united states has brushed it off as absolutely unthinkable and so i think that's the real reason that we have an ongoing crisis following the approval of the resolution china reiterated its call for a double freeze plan on north korea also saying that the u.s. south korea and other players should avoid actions that could make the situation worse that's after the north korean leader even before the vote warned that washington would pay a price artie's course one on a par on bill imports with more from seoul. considering this sanctions resolution passed by the u.n. security council is the toughest to date concerning north korea's ballistic missile aisle and a nuclear weapons program. is furious before the vote even took place the government
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issued a very harsh statement warning they will act tough on the quote u.s. gangsters and promised. pain and suffering. the fields calming measures to be taken by the d.p. ok recalls the us the greatest pain and suffering it's has through its entire history despite much talk out of seoul underscoring their commitment to a diplomatic solution this week it was announced by opposition along makers they will include requests for u.s. tactical nukes in their twenty eight thousand budget proposal however they say while they would like more sanctions any additional actions taken against pyongyang will need to include russia and china. i refer to the need for tighter sanctions and belief in the china and russia are sticking to the same position but what concrete measures need to be taken is something we must discuss together. this
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week a delegation of opposition lawmakers from seoul will head to washington where they will likely make this request for tactical nuclear weapons china is on the record saying such an act would be a red line as there stonily against the presence of nuclear weapons on the korean peninsula so if such an action is to be carried out by the trump administration it would surely only inflame tensions further in seoul on your part until our team. switching gears now pro independence protesters are demonstrating on the national day ahead of a succession referendum in just three weeks time local journalist you. know has been following the protest in the cut along capital for us. i so we are here in perth i got the you know what i being a massive concentration of people just so their support on the independent this movement. today on the eleventh of september the nation and they have got their own
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you know it's just the peak of many of the firm protests that have been a curing throughout the year there are a lot of people there's families their friends that have gathered here what they see as that peak that killed me nation what they've been fighting for all these years. just three weeks before the steel i legal referendum. got on so ready to go they have been fighting for these for a long time and. it would be independent this movement has been a race name for the past five years catalan government announced in the referendum on september sixth the very next day the spanish high court banned that move by the referendum is still set to go ahead now at the start of next month and catalonia says that it will declare independence within forty eight hours if there is a yes vote. and when the referendum first took place in catalonia back in two
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thousand and fourteen it was purely symbolic and authorities in madrid and weren't too happy about it they slammed it as unconstitutional and even threatened to kick the legendary barcelona football club out of the national league however that did not scare the lawn leaders or harmed their popularity after the pro independence party secured a majority in catalonia as parliament insisted the region would succeed anyway in march this year madrid up to the pressure and even bardic out a lot of officials from holding public office for organizing the referendum so why does spain fear the vote well there are a number of reasons to take a look at those if catalonia gains independence spain would lose almost seven percent of its territory and the richest part at that it will also lose over seventy million people or a fifth of its tax earnings twenty percent of exports would also go as would one third of spain's olympic medalists in addition catalonia a year round tourist destination attracts
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a quarter of all of spain's holidaymakers so pro independence feelings have been growing for a number of years with protesters pushing their messages through colorful headline grabbing rallies. jonathan shuffled from scotland's radical independence campaign group believes economic factors are driving europe apart. should appear experiencing the it is forms of fragmentation and i think the root cause of this is the economic crisis of
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two thousand and eight as the steady to measures that we've seen tea place what's happening is that people are looking to have more control over the leaves are looking to have much more of a c. in terms of how their lives are run as a back against what they see as corruption taking place at the highest levels of government and of course as a result of that. national movements and movements for independence can tap in to not take old frustration tap into that tape of energy and we saw that in twenty fourteen and scotland we see it now in catalonia all politics is unstable just no. more than a thousand wives and children of suspected eisel fighters are waiting their fate in a refugee camp in iraq after the terror group suffered major defeats arche is among the first news networks to access that facility our correspondent rob ghazi have sent us the following report which contains the first onscreen interviews with
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people at the camp. mommy as much of the more i. get says china. because it's because it is such a dumb was a victim but also to the earlier this year this woman's husband was killed in mosul he wasn't one of the good guys he was in a slum extent fighting until you know it was important i guess for that visit. with the food left. they had nowhere left to run the wives and children of presumed isis fighters finally surrendered the biggest concern now is safety and security the u.n. has asked us to blur these women's faces not to reveal their names and most importantly not to tell anyone where they're being held because isis so do a lot of hatred in iraq they spilled a lot of blood and there are people here who would come over just to throw
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a grenade across the fence we filmed these women. in order to avoid unnecessary attention for their room safety the first thing many told us is that they never wanted to be here in the first place. like the killing. them women. conceded that reasoning at the gun use english effectively teaches that with them they're not but. almost all of these woman a foreigner as a dead giveaway isis encouraged bringing families over there terrified they fear the iraqi army they're even scared of aid workers and the goal is to.
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get the first. can someone. tell us this is. what you do it's a no brainer. some school just does the fetches and that's all she gives out is the registrants unit known to china she didn't have to have some of the bad ones on the any such as if she had said yes until a bit nuts and then your bill of us mostly just as if it's not pretty it's not. finite is it do you have my alice in yet another sitting. up with. the woman we found russian speaking but the majority. there are also. new right europeans africans. asians americans many iraqis see them as something. too far gone. too deeply to forget the ideology. is at a loss it was something. to
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. keep. busy and that's what the damage that's been doing enough but. let's see if you think for a moment not so i let you me i'm not a young person if i'm pluck up. that much ok that. you have a problem is the kids there are families from dozens and dozens of different countries currently held by iraqi forces among them more than a thousand children and many of the orphans many will be able to tell you their names because of trauma or age and getting them out is paramount. you can't have that feeling. now when you
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can but for many. family groups including the un around the clock to establish identities but it's slow and dangerous work and falls to the woman to contact relatives let them know. not if i didn't hear. mama. believe some of these women may be telling the truth. may not they've. just by being here some even took up. and it'll be up to cool it's in iraq in their countries to establish guilt and the children. are essentially hostages in a way they don't even understand. from iraq well earlier we talked to political commentators. about the problem of coming back
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. well i think the most important thing we have to do is avoid these people coming back to our countries these people have joined a terrorist organization they wish to join a state that isn't the united kingdom isn't america isn't russia isn't even chechnya these are people who are dangerous extremist terrorists and what i hope will happen and i sincerely think that all of our country should support syria and iraq ensuring these people are prosecuted or brought to justice what we're talking about wives and children of isis fighters who have gone out to syria to iraq to kurdistan and have been found themselves inadvertently getting in broiled as part of as much a victim as anyone else has been in power these atrocities certainly the wives and children innocent victims in this play these are. children mothers who are claiming that we came here innocently we came here we followed the husbands they have been
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killed in combat we are left stranded here with nowhere to go and they are please no risk to the state it's let's be clear what the argument is making is that you are an adult have chosen to join a terrorist organization just because you're married you should have no responsibility for that whatsoever i want me. to terrorist organizations but i want to know if you make your own piece of this they signed up for you and besides so let's be clear on my position and let's be clear what i look at you actually look a little like your name for yourself as a giant for the majority of iraq just take the air piece out i keep talking the position of the majority of british people in my view is that they do not want terrorists back in the united kingdom they do not want the wives of terrorists back in the united kingdom but there may want the children who are entirely innocent to return to the united kingdom and with that in mind i put my ear piece back in these women many of them will be innocent people the children the innocent people they
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didn't sign up to a terrorist organization it's not like the. in a club where you sign up to get a membership form they followed their husbands into a war zone people who have not committed any wrongdoing who are no risk to the state the answer is to integrate them we have the national security apparatus in place to be able to tackle these issues right now we have got very successful models around britain we've got very successful models around europe it works if it's done carefully but the answer is not just to exclude everybody all we do is create more problems for the future we create increased terrorism we increase the threat it's very clear in british law that the islamic state it's a terrorist organization and joining a terrorist organization is a criminal offense so there's no argument that it's i merely went to meet my holds but if you are a consenting adult and you went over to join the islamic state you are a terrorist and you want to face justice for that at the end of the day we see families torn apart we see women quite rightly just say neal who have been raped misused abused. and those who just want to sleep shows to go that are absolutely
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nothing wrong so the idea is we need to bring these people back and show them some love show them some tolerance absolute they'll be armed no doubt interrogated by the intelligence services find out what they know but the idea is not imprison them not leave them stateless not leave them stranded we bring them home. a new round of strikes is said to hit france's unions continue to show their rage at emmanuel mark ronson new labor reforms the latest poll shows sixty percent of those quizzed are worried about the president's plans which are due to come into force next week artist boyko has more from paris. his popularity really slumped over the summer he's now got the lowest approval ratings according to one poll of any french president at this point into their presidential terms and one of the biggest reasons for this slump in the ratings is the labor law reforms that he wants to push through that's going to make it easier if he manages to push them through to
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hire and fire workers especially for small and medium businesses he was elected on a pro-business platform and he wants to give small and medium businesses greater flexibility here in france to allow small companies to bypass trade union agreements and here in lies the problem the trade unions here on happy about these reforms they see all this is an attempt to weaken their influence and to diminish their power here in france where they traditionally have rather a lot of it french workers very highly protected with the labor laws as they currently stand but there is high unemployment here in france that is something that emanuel macron has said that he is determined to tackle by pushing through these changes to the labor laws the two big trade unions here they are going to be calling a general strike and they're going to be demonstrating on the streets of many cities here in france including paris against these reforms emanuel micron himself
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remains unequivocal he says that he has a strong mandate in order to push through these reforms in order to implement these changes to the law and on friday he had a thing or two to say about the people that oppose him take a listen. i will be absolutely determined i will not yield in any way not to sarkozy. not to extremists. but actually the french government spokesperson tried to backpedal a little bit on those comments by saying that i. he was referring to former presidents over the past thirty years as. chirac who didn't have the courage to push through these reforms they were always watered down in some way and he said that courage takes great risk nevertheless on the socialist leader here in france he had a quick witted response to. take
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a listen to what men and sean had to say fools cynics slackers all in the streets on twelve and twenty. alcoholic's people who are nothing illiterate slackers the declarations of love from across to the french are multiplying emanuel micron's team spent a lot of the summer courting some of the trade unions here in france and making peace offerings and it appears to have partly was one leader of a rather more aggressive trade union here has said that they will not be participating in the strike and that there's no point starting a fight when it's already over so you can see my team has been using this sort of divide and conquer approach towards these reforms towards the trade unions we've got reaction from human rights and civil liberties activists yes or latino who says that this is not the first time ron has used insulting rhetoric and that he is just
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carrying out e.u. commands also show the same use the same kind of rhetoric you multiple times before the remember people are the two of us we are speaking of both when talking about the fact the reward is that the way you make fun of the african immigrants a drop in the sea and so we see it differently but there are no from coming from the money would call him that he has no respect whatsoever to do with whoever doesn't agree with him for him to show so much aggressiveness towards a very defiant public opinion shows dot emanuel is not actually governing the country for the best interests of the population but actually implementing european directives of those ahead but he may do if the if the employer is a federation and the other point is don't quote me when a call for go to dutch he's actually uniting all of the opposition against him. switch gears and go to the us now police in portland oregon took seven demonstrators into custody on sunday after
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a patriot prayer rally was met by counter protest the city's waterfront. officers arrested two protesters inside the park and several others in nearby streets after they started leaving authorities also said that two officers were injured in the incident the patriot prayer group plans to hold two rallies on sunday arvin evolve vice chair of the libertarian national committee thinks the
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culture in the us is leading to conflict. when you have a culture that's going towards violence you can't just kind of shut it down preemptively even though we have a right to a sprint free free assembly we have right to the right to free speech and sometimes people in their incorrectly believe that it also gives you a right to violence unfortunately we have more and more people who are not understanding the separation between disagreeing with somebody and thinking that it's ok to use violence to shut them down and so we're seeing is something happening at the cultural level where people are embracing violence. does it for me and my own call it will be here in about thirty three minutes with a full look at your news international.
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manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. in the final. we can all middle of the room.
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blow in welcome the cross talk we're all things are considered time peter lavelle what is the real function of media in the west today to inform citizens or parrot the interest and policies of the political elites it would seem corporate media can't get enough of war. across talking the media i'm joined by my guest here in moscow christopher he is the director and writer for the duran dot com we also have victor old habits he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spoke nick international right as always crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want they always appreciated first story i'd like to talk about the military exercises russia. will be conducting in about a week's time it's called. which means west two thousand and seventeen and the well .

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