hello and welcome the crosstalk we're all things are considered really well what is the real function of media in the west today to inform citizens or parrot the interest and policies of the political elites it would seem corporate media can't get enough of war. crosstalk in the medium joined by my guest here in moscow i was christopher he is the director and writer for the duran dot com we also have victor although he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spook nick international right there's always cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciated first story i'd like to talk about the military exercises russia. will be conducting in about a week's time it's called. part of which means west two thousand and seventeen and the western media is all up in

a tizzy about it why do well it's not the first time it's really extraordinary let me just remind you that in two thousand and fourteen when the events around ukraine happened mrs merkel said would you there's not going to stop here we're going to talk about muldaur we're going to talk about georgia and ask serbia what kind of come next ask serbia and all the balkan nations and the quote so not to happen to moldova now if it happened to georgia since then everyone forgot of course what mrs merkel said no one. wards but now we have a new threat you know and immediately of the german defense minister or through on their land says that there are violent hundred thousand birds but in reality there how many. thousands you know this is where you are the seven hundred there's really the minds of the early ages there was a book by robert count. separate historian who did the real wrote

a book about how americans and the europeans should behave in case the serious actually in the lead and occupy their country is now we're talking about the times of mutually assured destruction there would be no you know that would be impossible literally but still the point was to scare to scare people care to scare people and this is exactly what is happening again to the point of these stories all across the european media all across american media is to scare people into believing and russian media is the greatest conduit for exactly what i want is really interesting is that if you read these warmongering scaremongering articles no one ever reflects upon that these are military exercises within russia and be a ruse with beer russa's permission and it is this is happening every few years there are outside monitors international observers here i mean there is no i don't

see what this headlines are all about except would be interesting just to scare of course russia is not allowed to have military exercises with the border sentry that's not allowed but it's a great it's a question of course and of course from what products are standing there counting the hundred thousand number there even counting troops who are at the bases monitoring the exercises i would think basically all the troops in the area and they're saying there's a hundred thousand of them i think the bigger story is how the mainstream media in the west simply cannot count seventeen intelligence agencies one hundred thousand troops i mean everything seems to be you know totally you know above board. that's a story it's always inflated and they're always projecting more than than what's really happening to scare people well sometimes nato can calm so i feel nato had eighty five military exercises during the last six months on the border you know with russia in the book that's not to mention not threatening right yes no and any one hundred twenty thousand nato servicemen to be. but you know these excite

because as we all know the nato is uniquely defensive alliance it never it. was the people in libya about that when i read that if you're going to fly as much and yugoslavia just. need to do is if you would a defensive alliance so they can do whatever they want including imitate in attacks you know the the so-called exercise in the baltics you know cold challenge i guess. fiendish and swedish planes took part in it and that lead to the legend of the exercise was overpowering you know a horse. so it is if you can read about this you know. you know the legend of these. maneuvers and russia for the first time in several months has its own exercise and that's aggressive you know they say that it's a preparation for an attack either against ukraine or against it well it shows all

of this shows here that nato is necessary that's what this is all about you let's change gears a little bit guys as i was reading an article in a conservative news dot com by. robert perry how regime change wars led to korea crisis suggest to our readers to have a look at this here. this there's no when you look at media coverage of north korea there is no back story at all and he almost never very rarely even mention the years of the korean war itself we have to point out to our viewers to during that conflict there the united states air force destroyed every virtually every single standing building in the country in the first year of the war in lasted three years the war isn't over there is an armistice here but if you take a look at the way the north koreans look at the world libya iraq. then all of a sudden their thinking is a lot more rational because he's crazy right know it's actually a very rational foreign policy you know the korean war is the forgotten war and

that's what the mainstream media wants the public to understand that it is a forgotten war so they don't publicize it much it's very cartoonish all the sudden you know this another dictator has just magically sprung up in another country far away for which the u.s. now has to take care of him so it's the same story just recycled over and over ok what else is recycled your dream is that you know the north koreans that they won't negotiate they're irrational they have proposed the freeze for freeze a double freezing no ending the military american military exercise with the south koreans would they have what twenty four thousand troops there are stationed there you have you have a good part of the american navy around the arena and installed and you're asking them to stop their testing ok that's pretty fair russia's proposal china's proposed would you would know that from reading the washington post of the solution is simple the. american south american side simply doesn't talk to the north koreans there are no talks you know so when they see him going wouldn't talk would

negotiate them he can say refuse to have a negotiation. and i would say that you know very strangely he may be you know the board is create a new security system in the world why the short ugly. because basically if you have like the wild west you know there are two ways to have security either have a good sheriff and then it makes sense to legalize weapons or if the sheriff is mad or an adequate then let everyone have to be buried so that's what i'm doing on this and let everyone have weapons and then the wars will stop in the same way shootin stopped in the american wild west when people had weapons so there are two points here coming up but what. if you. just became president there were. members rumors in the state department that indeed north korean delegation was

about to get visas to come to the united states people from the north korean institute for american studies and their foreign ministry and care for and you go she was normal serious negotiations but then suddenly those visas were revoked they were not given and the administration decided to go the other way so that way this administration works is one story we up the stakes and to see how he can push the north koreans into a more about the negotiating position for himself but it doesn't work that we're going to seriously say my way to the highway was that you know she ating and i want to that is that's one of the reasons that it doesn't work with the north koreans is because they are actually very pragmatic the are very rational in their foreign policy and that's exactly the reason why one of the reasons why i don't like libya iraq which actually thought that it would go along with all the conditional disarm

that that nobody whether that north korea fully and completely understands how to sort of additionally yes but the interesting thing here is that you know when you look at this coverage of the media loves this big they love the ballots they love you know you have you do the caricature of a crazy dictator and you know without any kind of context what's going on here a caricature of blood china's role in all this its primary interest is not to see a collapse of the north korean state that's a nightmare for china last time i checked north korea is on china's border not on california's border and all the blame is being put on china for not settling the dispute with north korea so china's an interesting fall guy for all of this but if you go back to put some context to what victor said you look at you know trump trying to negotiate this and he can't negotiate because his cards are on the table in other words the u.s. history shows what happened in iraq was a disaster they got rid of their weapons and a disaster. libya the same thing a disaster we could even throw in syria let's not forget that the u.s. pushed chemical weapons to be destroyed in syria but russia came in and protected

syria the oversaw the destruction the chemical weapons and when push came to shove russia came in and protected assad from another us mistake and now the u.s. feels regime change so now that syria has been to north korea sitting there and saying ok you see the pattern here obviously it was going to how do we go to learning. you know with all of this years now exists after the international agencies after the u.n. security fight officially certified that syria no longer can no longer possessed chemical weapons the united states kimi and again and at that the syrian air force be saying there were chemical weapons there and you know he wins a little bit of a pretext to think that if north korean propaganda probably the would use the same argument as national rifle association in the united states if the sheriff is inadequate the sheriff attacks the city and soon all of the other people who gave up their weapons then let everyone have weapons and this is the logic which is

forward now of course i feel russia and china do not support this war are we so they want to see you made it very clear here dissatisfied with the world if you really do agree machine that's another thing that's not reported well i think that the russian elite and the chain easily if they want to return to the ward with international war with a good sheriff with an adequate share of the problem which there is no way to question you know still unfortunately say in all diplomatic could you know that we are absolutely against nuclear proliferation and that where i don't accept the nuclear status for north korea i think the wall should prepare for the what and there was is indeed a walled where small countries will have destructive weapons if you're going to go just like you're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the menu state of north.

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welcome back to cross like where all things are considered i'm bitterly beltre mind you we're discussing the media. here we still want to have a comment on north korea just going off of what dmitri said russia and china in the security council cooperate with the united states when it comes to resolutions are north korea what happens to them they get slapped with sanctions so it just goes to show that you can't trust the sheriff in town so well we're going to see what happens at the next security council meeting very strong. bad feelings because the latest deeds will be pushing for inspection north korean ships bringing your arms and your north korea and that means freeze in twenty five million people the same you know it is reminds me of i was watching a nikki haley and she had a little squabble with the north korean regime and you know he was the only person i know that has a ph d.

in hillbilly studies i mean you know this is just not the way to to run a foreign policy had to put that in there. let's switch gears a little bit to syria. you know half a year ago this was the headline everywhere. you know we're russian killing civilians you know the assad killing his own people. the war has tipped into the other direction i think is pretty obvious here but you would know that from mainstream media you would know that from cable t.v. would you what happened in syria last time i heard over a half a million six hundred thousand people returned to aleppo oh i thought they were supposed to fear mr assad i mean their whole media narrative has collapsed basically the message from the new york times is stop telling me peace is coming back just like their main message for mr trump during the talks with which is stop . telling me that i want honestly yes i want thanks to you and you're going to be

held to account for that and this is in the detour you also the new york times you are absolutely right you wouldn't you wouldn't know that the situation is improving from the western media i have to learn the situation is improving problem the had all of their. positions negotiating so-called supreme council here last all of that stuff on diffused the you under presented to on syria for what staffan de mistura basically said to their position you have to admit that you didn't win this war with president putin so immediately they said you're a new and russia has won this war for russia so the war risk i mean to end there and right there on the lawn it in the you know the never say the hope to win it for the syrian people this is just how bad coverage of that and somehow refugees are common to this stalin back to the dictatorship. instead of these nice there's

another angle to that story and that is remember in two thousand and eleven when the war was just starting with american and western support going to the factions in the syrian opposition to some terrorist groups they wanted to structure the story as another fight of the government forces against terrorists but the fight of sunni much surety sunni maturity right began and i will buy it and shia minority supported by outside powers like iran is out of exactly and the end of the south constantly well with russia supporting the government the entire sunni arab world is going to align against russia and they're going to create russia and are going to be consequences of all kinds of for proportions for for that what do we see to be with the war ending with the syrian government the kink they're taking back to you from all kinds of terrorist organizations like like isis. different.

what is actually happening suing you qatar is actually a closely alliance more closely aligned with iran. and russia then if you are still before in fact before it qatar did not have their interests there in tehran now they do it with judea with jordan russia has either the same or better a better you know every single program i say crosstalk rules and effects but you know what the other phrase i think that i've used. the second most common phrase of use in this program is the law of unintended consequences it's called blowback and so now you see you know all these states are now fighting with each other so at first they had an enemy and in syria they had a common goal and out the syrian war is coming to an end they're fighting amongst each other and thank god the syrian war is coming to an end thank god assad is going to stay in power because we're not going to have a black flag raised over damascus and this is why the mainstream media will never report but unfortunately there is

a negative aspect of what you just said is that i first see. one more russian and you're right and this we have a few more months for the administration to try to find some kind of rationale to overturn the nucular agreement the only thing in foreign policy that barack obama did that i agree with ok but they're looking to overturn that iran will be next and when israel did commit an air strike in syria from lebanon so they syria from lebanon the story the official story from israel change that first they were bombing a chemical weapons plant then they were bombing hezbollah so you can see the israeli press working with the mainstream media in the west to adjust their story away from chemical weapons which no one really wants to hear anymore two or more where we're protecting it gets hezbollah we're fighting has blood that's we're fighting in iraq well i would say that there is also the war on the reported. in the western media

in one for example of russia and. the russian aviation destroyed their minister of war or the so-called islamic state who is none other than groom or old high level. former tajik special forces officer trained into the us who basically defected due to the isis spoils and fifteen in order to fight their asses regime and who could please don't call but you rush really. georgian descent who also fought against russians band who volunteers police in the glorious ranks of the islamic state after wards fighting terrible on a prediction here ok a few years when the syrian war the bloody syrian civil war will go but you know it will be part of history and the people there will live in peace. the official american way of framing historically framing this war would be that it was the united states that defeated ace it was the united states that defeated noosa it was

the united states that conducted the peace negotiations and then we beat russia and maybe some other countries scoped out but not so much that's how it's not so the shot western audiences think about the second world war exactly no and this is that you know think the normandy landing you know saving private ryan in the russians that a little bit on the other side of course was the americans that i've heard that. you know it's already happening mr monk or on the french president is already just saying call the political structure or syria should be formed after the war instead of apologizing for be it's basically supporting an armed insurgency in a sovereign country he's now down in there how they should organize their well demon if you appear realist habits die hard ok well really just like mrs merkel in the wake of the beginning of our program we've had mrs merkel defend in serbia from russia you know. ten years or twelve years off to do. when you board

was full of it sort of it together with other western nations. it's media coverage of the they don't there's never been a war they don't like. what right is this is it just hits i mean it's eyeballs i mean war is popular i mean because what i see in the mainstream is that it's just a p.r. arm of the neo cons to you know you know they're crawling out of the swamp and they're making you know they're getting their fix to the levers of power again and the media are in lockstep with these this ideology that let's not forget that all the media in the us is controlled by six large corporations and all those corporations have ties with the military industrial complex so everyone that's that's reporting on what's happening in the world they know that it's good business to report on war and it's going to lead to a promotion are going to get into you're going to be spin saying the news on fox and understand b.c. you're going to have a chris hayes or rachel maddow or jake tapper they know that by reporting on war they're going to get

a nice big promotion that's also face it all these people that for example promoted the war in iraq from bill kristol to bear not only others although there they get they get editorials in op eds in the new york times they are talking about syria now they're talking about north korea all these guys that you know they're in the never you know how do they never they guess got a little bit more gray hair you're absolutely right from two thousand three all of them it's the same people same people people look this is how it works it's really very simple so josh rogan gets a call from a source in one of those seventy in syria says that they're so good that doing their job analyzing everything and he knows he can write the story what he's done that if he doesn't write it the right way. he's not going to get another call and maybe if he doesn't get another call then his job at that publication of where he gets it will be jeopardized. if you if you said jeopardize what i think is really

interesting german it kind of an echo but what you said here you can be wrong and there's no downside i mean it's not always a great if you know you can actually be the greatest job in the world if you don't ever have to be right you just have to parrot what you're told good but i mean the stuff i will these people is getting more and more aggressive i couldn't believe my eyes today i read and the total in the new york times the of the morning it said the wide close and it's a lake is in certain federal agencies and that's the beginning well that's probably all the people of that said when i told and that's lake it's you know that's not going to this is going to be a. bit like the north korean is they should have been here because the problem is not just the influence or. the problem is that these people think they have when they do all of that gives them the right to at dag creature size destroy anyone including the white collars of the elected officials who you know and their

language is becoming more and more aggressive simply because of impunity you can publish a new fake you so i could put you think it's also a sense of powerlessness as well i think there inverted here because something must be done this is that the system like this is a hole and legacy i read something must be done and we give you an example you know how the new york times and the washington post kept saying if gay athletes come to the russian olympic games they will be arrested you know they came in no one was arrested no one apologized and no one was reprimanded for basically reporting false information but you can be fired it if you write something good and bold putin above would have been a point or a bit of pain this was really a remarkable story and we're going to go to concrete examples phil donahue who was once the number one talk show host in the u.s. was fired because he openly disagreed with the iraq invasion that's case number one brian. williams who was the n.b.c.

anchor and lied lied openly i was caught for it what is he doing now he's back at m s n b c anchoring the show on that point joining me live from run out of time for this segment of the program many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here or to see you next time and remember. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your

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