i got. some. on larry king you are watching our america question more. i do not know if the russian state hacked into john podesta emails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provide credible to support his claims. i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied to be n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating corporate

media has once again proved to be an echo for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming indistinguishable. time simone del rosario filling in for lindsay france you're watching boom broadcasting two of around the world from right here in washington d.c. coming up on the show software meant to block viruses is getting blocked by the u.s. government says a moscow company becomes a casualty of russian meddling concerns then falls florida farmers lose up to

seventy five percent of their orange crop after hurricane winds right off the trees hands off the wheel that is the transportation department decides companies developing driverless cars themselves we have that a whole lot more so stand by start right now. i. the trumpet ministration ordered all government agencies to wipe off its networks a prominent anti-virus software for fears that could jeopardize national security the maker of the software is a moscow based cyber security firm the department of homeland security issued its directive wednesday over concerns russian intelligence could compromise u.s.

systems through that software u.s. intelligence agencies have reportedly tried for years to determine whether senior executive at. are working with russian military and intelligence it's a connection the company rejects its c.e.o. stating his business is caught in the middle of a geo political fight eugene kaspersky said it's not popular to be russian right now in some countries but we cannot change our roots and frankly having these fruits do not make us guilty there is no evidence to confirm these false media reports because the lab does not have inappropriate ties to any government the company is a world leader in cyber security and says it has more than four hundred million users around the world but unable to shake these allegations this is just the latest hit for its u.s. business last week best buy announced it was pulling kaspersky products from its shelves. while d.h. s. has given federal agencies thirty days to identify kaspersky products on its

systems and says it must begin discontinuing use within ninety days the move comes as the trumpet ministration and u.s. government as a whole continues to come under fire for lax approach to cyber security risk management firms security scoreboard recently government third to last in overall industry security rankings so to talk about the holes and how to fill them i'm joined by sam curry chief security officer at cyber reason i want to start first by talking about our top story do you think the decision to pull kaspersky is based on any actionable intelligence. or is this more of a risk based assessment it has to some degree be based on information that we don't have access to right a lot of national security is done in the intelligence community through classified briefings and to some extent there must be some fear here however because person is a company that's been around for a long time has been doing quality security research i think everyone is interested to see how this plays out but the government has to act to make sure the software

on the networks is understood and are known quantities now the white house cyber security coordinator rob joyce he was asked whether there was a smoking gun that led the white house to this decision and he said as we evaluated sec knology we just decided it was a risk we couldn't accept so could there be a smoking gun we're not hearing about or or is it really just something that they decided based on all of the rhetoric that's been going on with russian meddling that this was something they had to take care of well he put it well right i mean to respect his decision and the thing is we don't get to see outside of the government what those factors are there might be one there may not be one and it may be more than that but i would expect the dialogue to evolve over the course of the next few weeks and months that says what's he going to take for companies like that should others others appear to be able to meet the risk management the government puts out and say yes it's acceptable or not and you said it yourself he's been around for a long time they are a world leader when it comes to cybersecurity me anti-virus software have we seen software companies at the same level as conspiracy be involved in spyware in the

past it's not spyware so much spyware usually involves the after and person identified information i think perhaps ties with espionage or with nation interests is going to be the concern but again we don't really have much time a tree there we've seen other companies that have come under the under the gaze of the government before and say do you have back doors and certainly foreign provenance software is always a concern we can't speak to what developing conditions are like and even manufacturing in other nations and so the government has to pay close attention to supply chains especially in a globalized economy. we can get software anywhere and from any number of places but for this for that matter there aren't that many government agencies to the best of my knowledge actually use kaspersky at this point and i would say that there's really three theaters here there's within russia there's within the u.s. and then there's the rest of the world. has a very strong presence in the rest of the world but i certainly see other brands as the big brands mantei virus and similar type to companies inside the u.s. federal government well let's talk about the federal government and cybersecurity

when a quarter of the members resigned last month to his advisory council it was in part because of president trying to response to charlottesville but it was also because of cyber security in that resignation letter they said you've given insufficient attention to growing threats to cyber security at the critical systems upon which all americans depend including the election system or what's your take so far on the trumpet ministration of the attention it's given or lack thereof to cybersecurity i can't speak to what maybe is on trump's agenda any given day the president probably has a lot of things to trade off but he expectation was that he would have something when the first ninety days and he didn't come with something until may and i think that probably surprised if you people in this day and age we have to get cyber security right we all want to embrace what the technologies that are rolling out everything from you know clouds and internet of things we want to embrace that and that's beneficial to all of us as human beings it behooves us to get the security right because if we don't we're not going to enjoy those benefits and i think it's

very important for the government to come out with statements and they have in may about how this will be approached so i think probably a few of the things on the agenda to start with but now we've got some guidance and i think it's time to start responding to it and start to fill in the gaps when it's not just the trumpet ministration obviously this has been an issue with the federal government for years prior you know security scoreboard at the ranking that i mentioned as we introduced this segment the government was ranked third to last but it used to be ranked last and it still found that the government was lagging. when it came to replacing outdated software patching current software there was a host of ip issues how do you tackle those problems at such a big level well governments are very big organizations and their networks are huge the executive order actually highlighted the fact that risk management is needed in the nist framework is something that has to be adopted but also the systems have to be upgraded upgrading can bring issues new systems can have new vulnerabilities and they can connect new features which can be exploited but part of the executive

order from the trumpet ministration was it's time to start tackling some of these things and right now they're doing those investigations and coming up with the plans he asked for so do you think that this executive order that he put into place do you think it's making waves right now through the agencies it has to within the agencies are now going to be held responsible the highest levels for their cybersecurity strategy that's a big part of this but they've been given timelines anywhere from ninety to two hundred forty days depending on the part. plans and this is really now about one hundred days and it's now going to start to see them and so you should think of it is the assessment in the planning phases will be ending and it's time to start trying plans and start executing on them because otherwise the results will be there well and as you said the first deadline was ninety days and we've already passed that has everyone met their deadlines well i haven't been following it and tracking it as in who's doing their homework or not but this is what the media and the pressure be paying attention to some of them are ninety digital deadlines some one hundred twenty and some hundred fifty and ones actually two hundred forty these are again big things to get the policies right and then it's up to frankly to have

a debate public debate with all the stakeholders and say so what are we going to do our reaction and improve critical infrastructure in the government's infrastructure that's what i'm looking forward to seeing and hopefully we'll get some actual action and it's something that we need to be. think about what just happened with equifax what can we learn from hacks like that while the x.x.x. is a hack is one of those things i have a pet peeve by the way which is people who aren't in the inside of it they shouldn't be commenting on it i'm waiting for data to appear and frankly one hundred forty three million people's identity and their information we still don't know who might have it and the extent to which it might be used so i've see a lot of opinions circulating but really equifax is the ones who know about it and i would say that this type of hack makes the world less safe in general but it also is a big threat to privacy the sorts of information that somebody like an actual facts has can be used to make information about all of us more readily accessible and cheaper and that can be very dangerous as well so i think attention is needed for privacy reasons equifax i think still has

a lot to say to us about what happened and i'm waiting to see how it plays out over time as far as the government is concerned which agencies do you think would be the biggest targets and the most dangerous for hacks are the ones that might have the most impact perhaps well there's always those that are in a war fighting capacity we worry about those you should think of nation states out there developing cyber capabilities they're using it is you call it an extension of politics by other means right there's new tools available in the war chest both for cyber conflict which is a form of really cold war but also for hot conflict that kinetic battlefield in the cyber intersect so most battlefields of the future will involve a cyber dimension so i would say we need to make sure we can wage war we can defend and very importantly we can protect our infrastructure we can protect civilians we can protect our constituents and trade and so on so i won't guess which department will be the worst they'd all be pretty bad if they were sick if they were significantly targeted but we do need to make sure that we have resiliency and we know where a single points of failure are as

a society and real quick i'm sorry only about twenty seconds to answer this one but when it comes to cyber security should we be working alone on this or do we have international partners we should learn is never a good thing alone international cooperation is always good intercompany intergovernmental communities are always stronger and frankly less us and them more coalition building i think is needed on all fronts ok sam currie chief security officer at cyber reason thank you so much for your time today. citing national security concerns president trump has blocked a chinese backed investor from buying an american computer chip maker the chinese company canyon bridge capitols partners was looking to acquire portland based. semiconductor corp now it's just the fourth time in more than a quarter of a century that a u.s. president has stopped a foreign takeover of an american firm over national security concerns the white

house said the deal is fraught with risk of potentially transferring intellectual property to china and is concerned about china's support of the deal considering the u.s. government's use of lottie's products that china is already the world's largest chip market and it's been looking to build a domestic supply here in the united states but a u.s. government panel that reviews foreign investment proposals had already given the deal the thumbs down and trump followed suit it signals the administration's attempts to closely scrutinised any takeover deals coming out of china and china commerce spokesman meanwhile expressed concern over the u.s. creating a fair and transparent business environment saying that while the u.s. has the right to conduct security checks on sensitive investment it should not be used as a protectionist tool. the u.s. had no problem making deals with a different asian country this week but just how lucrative it remains to be up in the air on tuesday president trump welcome malaysian prime minister to the white

house we're talking about trade very large trade deals were working on one deal where. between ten and twenty billion dollars worth of boeing jets are going to be purchased ok but just hours later the tentative deal struck between boeing and malaysia airlines hardly soared even close to those numbers trump mentioned the current sale of sixteen planes is worth just three billion dollars still malaysia's prime minister put more promise in the air saying there is a strong probability the country will add twenty five more seven thirty seven's in the near future so trump's ten billion dollar figure could become reality now malaysia airlines is trying to recover its reputation and win back its riders after two deadly crashes in two thousand and fourteen time now for a quick break stick around when we return puerto rico plagued with calls on washington for more relief after hurricane irma and the bodega battle store owners fight to stay in business like entrepreneurs try to replace them with the now as we

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florida was looking at a very promising orange crop this year then hurricane arma hit and winds ripped off as much as seventy five percent of the fruit from trees now this could prove catastrophe could catastrophic for the state were agriculture contributes more than one hundred billion dollars to the economy each year and then there's always the danger that in the mix of all the disaster catastrophic loss that we're seeing in the keys which really need to focus on all the other parts of the state margaret fulton gets lost and. it should have been a comeback year for florida growers after a decade of decline and it's not just oranges suffering grapefruit and sugar cane suffered. as well for oranges harvest season starts in a couple of months and while early year estimates put yields at around seventy five million boxes which would have been six million more than last year now growers

will be lucky to get even half of that on wednesday the department of agriculture announced it would loosen rules to give farmers easier access to federal relief funds following hurricane arma an attempt to keep farmers above water when much of their crop is still under it. also looking for relief is puerto rico on thursday its governor ricardo rosello met with white house officials to discuss the impacts of hurricane erma but on top of relief money the governor had a laundry list of things to discuss here in washington joining us for more on that now is machining first let's talk about hurricane i mean how much was done to puerto rico well during that press conference today governor of sello said that the total damage is now estimated to be around one billion dollars which is up from the initial estimate of six hundred million dollars he did and the size of that arma luckily didn't hit puerto rico as badly as it did to the other caribbean nations which is why puerto rico has been taking in refugees from those countries they've taken in two thousand and they're expecting another two thousand by tomorrow and

then an additional three hundred that after that but still you know they are very reliant on theme aid in order to help all of those refugees on top of the communities in puerto rico that were hit really badly and they also announced today that president trump will be making a trip to puerto rico the days aren't official yet but sometime soon to help the government there assess the damage and even if they were hit hard we know that power has been an issue on the island and puerto rico's government run power company has been getting a lot of attention but what can you tell us about that so which is the state run electricity company has been suffering with the rest of the government in terms of finances in fact right now they have about nine billion dollars worth of debt and even before they hit about twenty percent of their users have lost power so for the past few years that they've been struggling with a financial crisis this debate about whether they should privatized has sprouted up and it's become a very very divisive issue in puerto rico politically and there was

a rumor going on after that was intentionally delaying services to sort of build up support for privatization whether it was price partially or a total takeover so at the conference today i asked the governor about that and this was his response. the first. so being the absurd notion. that people were going to. leave the. bridge possible so that we can have those cheap as possible you know we have a brother. so he clearly denies any truth to that but you know it's important to keep in mind that he took office in january and in the past he has been quoted as saying that maybe could become an opportunity to deal with the verses another continuing problem so those are you know obviously very vague words but privatization isn't necessarily off the table in the future and if you talk to

people on the island they know that they have been incredibly burdened by their government run utility program so always two sides to a story out there aside from when it comes to hurricane earl and the governor also mentioned at this press conference you had a few things he wanted to get done with congress what can you tell us about the proposal that he has yes so the government of puerto rico basically wants to work on three specific things with congress they want to work on health care especially right now during the storm since i'll be having refugees coming in and many of them will need immediate care but also in the long term they want to be able to provide better treatment there are so puerto rican have to travel to the mainland to get help they also want to continue working on promises which is the bill that was passed last year to help them sort of rein in their crisis which you know part of it has been implemented but there still is a lot of work to be done but they really emphasize that they want to be considered in the tax reform that is allegedly being discussed on capitol hill right now and today at the conference the current governor spoke but so did the former governor and he emphasized that puerto rico is a part of the u.s.

and needs to be considered in the tax reform debate. very good with the states. being those go. we will be with are we going to see them believe we will be there for the world. and. are they going to be ready for. years. but for now we don't. believe you are. so their over again theme today was that puerto rico might be a territory not a state but the problems that are there are domestic they're not foreign issues and they want to be included in any of the sort of reforms that are happening in congress we'll see if washington hears them. thank you so much for reporting on that for us.

well whether the government takes a hands on approach with puerto rico is one thing but it's taking a hands off the wheel approach when it comes to autonomous cars the transportation department revealing it will allow the companies developing driverless cars to self police its safety measures that announcement of course getting mixed reviews let's bring in legal and media analyst lionel of lionel media for his thoughts on the matter why don't what side of this do you fall on a whole let me tell you. as a lawyer a trial lawyer this is the greatest thing ever oh i mean i i hate to say that somebody is going to have to suffer for the. simone you have no idea how horrible this is going to be this is going to be i mean you talk about from one catastrophic from to this first if you get

a chance to read the transportation department idea they said in order to improve technology which could save thirty thousand or lives a year we're going to allow you to develop this technology on your own or that of the oversights just do the say and let us know and we don't want to wimpy because this is so important to save lives by providing you with the only oversight and let me ask you something and how forthcoming do you think they're going to be when i mean they the the autonomous you know car driving society but oh likely do you think of all they're going to say wait a minute we just found a glaring glitch that could cause hundreds of people injured let's let the world know about it because after all we are we promised the world that we would let them know or would you say. but that one will it get to that later so i

think we know what side of it you stand on line on but there is something to be said about regulation sometimes standing in the way of technological advancements is this a case where the transportation secretary in the transportation department as a whole is just saying maybe these car companies know better about what is needed to develop this new industry. absolutely there's a tremendous balance i want you to wonder step number two but think that you know when you see these recalls now look at this can you imagine first of all you've got to you have to have a tremendous sense of self respect to drive that but there comes a bone drive it on our own if you want to get in that that's fine oh by the way some other me ask are you going to have a level one or level two is your car going to be totally autonomous or are you

going to be able to override it so much i'm a control freak i'm going to need to override it line on how about you out well what happens is you're going to be in this and you're going to ask yourself why am i buying a car now i might buy get because of performance acceleration or am i buying basically a living room i'm buying based upon the seeds and how many gadgets are you look at because i am giving up driving think about this what i used to look the car the speed the power because you're driving along and that car may tell you one day you're not going to go over thirty five i don't care how fat no i've got to go it's an emergency sorry no no you don't understand here let me this is the wrong way sorry i got a better one for you let's be real conspiratorial shall we oh boy let's assume you're of a demographic. of the type of person or

class or whatever in various countries not here of course and you decide you want to go to a part of the country a part of the city part of whatever that you've never been to and you punch in the coordinates and it says no. you're not going to you've given this up you have given up this autonomous it's autonomous not you you've given up your ability to go where you want to go do what you want to do all of that over with because the allure right now is that this is think about this your own private home james i don't have to drive and you put me down that was nice lionel i can't lie. you know why because you don't see the horrors of the future as i do and you i am here you always see that lionel and we appreciate your insight on this legal and media analyst lionel of lionel media always

a pleasure having you on thank you so much sir thank you. ok a self driving car may sound nice to some maybe not lionel but automation has its downsides and a new concept by two former google employees may be a prime example of that the idea here is simple do away with your local corner store or your bodega entirely instead of an actual store you'd buy from a five foot wide pantry box using an app that's called bodega now the boxes are already being tested out in the bay area they're found in apartment lobbies dorms office buildings gyms now it sounds convenient but there's a lot of mom and pop store owners that are really not happy about the added competition now these are people who have already been facing higher rents and competition from delivery services meanwhile these vending machine like but they won't have to pay for retail space at all so they'll have a clear advantage here and then there's the people that are bristling at the term bodega in general it's it's thought to be taking aim at the shops that are run by

the immigrants that these bodegas naturally popped up in these neighborhoods and these boxes are likely going to put them out of business own fact the company has even apologized for hitting a nerve but it will be up to consumers decide which bodega they want the. single interaction or just a grab and go box all right thank you so much for watching us today be sure to catch us on directv that's direct t.v. channel three two one that's where you can find our t.v. and if you miss us there you can catch us on youtube that's youtube dot com. thanks so much for watch and see you next time. for breakfast yesterday why would you put those for.

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being. from contends with more moves from special counsel robert mower while hillary clinton pushes her view of what happened in the twenty sixteen campaign it's all the latest on this edition. of politic and on larry king according to multiple reports the trump campaign is begun turning over documents to investigators working for the office of special counsel robert mueller the reports contend that this is all part of mr miller's investigation into possible collusion between them from campaign and moscow.