there's always going to be somebody else one step ahead of the game. we should not be. normalizing. we don't need people that think like this on our planet. this is an incredibly situation. on larry king now probably brothers through. everything in our lives it's very unexpected there was no trajectory that said what we're going to do but even being born. we were complication and the doctor didn't know there were twins with i was one baby i was born doctor left and then the nurse called him back and i think there's another one and he was born as my mother saying. you know. now it is a lot of cities first time homebuyers so they just can't afford to get into the market so work. which you know it was funny to me is a lot of people spend more time kicking the tires of a profit maker buying a wal-mart than they do about it like some people walk into a house they don't know you could lose your shirt you want to. watch your back is

most people don't know that's people think now there's nothing that can be done with this house i can make any house beautiful we can find any house. you have to just ask yourself is it a good financial decision all next on larry king. drew and jonathan scott real estate moguls authors emmy nominated t.v. personalities hosts a slew of massively popular t.v. shows including probably brothers and brother versus brother and co-founders of scott brothers entertainment and scott living the forthcoming collective memoir is called it takes to our story it's available september fifth and the new season of property brothers buying and selling airs wednesday at nine pm on h g t

v how did all this start. that was a start at seven years old and we started our first business we were always a little go getters actually go back even further start when we were born what happened at birth i won the original brother versus brother competition i was born first i was sitting on your head in the womb for nine months yes she was born with a little but imprint on his head and everything in our lives it's very unexpected there was no trajectory that said what we were going to do but even being born there was no ultrasound when we were born unless there was a complication and the doctor didn't know there were twins that i was one baby i was born doctor left and then the nurse called him back and i think there's another one and he was born to my mother saying. yeah. you know what did they call you other you know they just what did you dad do so before we were born my dad actually came over when you're sixteen from scotland and he was one of the cowboy he's watching old cow with movies and he did he became a cowboy the rocky mountains and that's remote my mom they fell in love they moved to the west coast were born in vancouver and he started writing in commercials as

a stunt man and he became you know the it was a go to the labatt's man at one point and he then started doing more acting and eventually started directing as well in t.v. and film and he actually tried to dissuade us from doing television because he said there's frankly a lot of real in the t.v. space anyway you want to make sure that you're working around people that you like and so regardless of his influence away from it it's still sort of drew us in as he retired yeah he's eighty three he retired years ago growing up he actually gave up being in the industry just to raise us and we had a ranch we grew up in a ranch and so he just worked the ranch so how did this housing thing go to college you know well we did but have originally actually we were actors as kids johnsons and illusionist so we had all these creative outlet some a director and we did we did want to be struggling artists as young young adults coming out of high school so we actually were looking were seventeen for where we could make some money to fund our own endeavors our creative endeavors and we heard real estate was a great way if you ever saw those infomercials that had the guys at the boats and

the babes and behind and they would make millions with no money down and so we. bought the infomercial like let's do it and most of us misinformation but we got just enough of a nugget of an idea we bought our first house at eighteen years old what did you. want to do the age seven we started our own business hangar business right and that was we just saw these crafts that these people had made where they weave nylon around a hanger like oh we could do that and so we started making these like mad at seven years old the entrepreneurial spirit came into the when we were doing the houses bought a house at eighteen and fix that up too and we've been over cheever's our whole lives is t v goals real estate a method of getting in just like showbiz well they were originally real so it was a way to fund us we wanted as kids we want to make our own films and so at the time we thought if we could pay for our own films then we would do that and then it just ended up taking off and i would never thought a million years that people would pay to look at this yes although i never thought it would happens in the era of real say what your expertise was to us pull on the shows we showcase john has a license contractor and designer and i'm

a real estate agent but in reality what we've been doing since the beginning which you see on our show brother versus brother is that we've both been renovating the house as we've both been doing the real estate side and so yeah we showcase his talent as a licensed contractor and we showcase me as the license way back in the beginning drew actually used to get in and do all the work with me and admittedly did not enjoy getting dirty i like my manicures now a lot of guys do this right fixer uppers what brought you to do it on television you know we were actually approached to do it because we when we started renovating houses we you know saw that there is potential to have a big business there we licensed or as a realtor i went to school i was actually going to school for business left that went to college for construction design we started our company around or for ten years and then we were approached to do a show of actually i was approached first this other true talent here i was approached for a show called realtor idol it was basically american idol for realtors is the dumbest idea ever but then from there i told my brothers a contractor and then they pitched us what we were already doing with families helping them buy a place and renovate not that i think the peel was that we don't take ourselves too

seriously. we love to have fun and you know i think some people in design especially they take themselves too seriously and you know what if as a family renovating a house if you're not having fun with the process something's not right you don't have the right trade you know ready to run whatever it is so we the families we work with we just have so much fun we aerate over one hundred fifty countries now and i love when we can be overseas we were just in barcelona a month ago and people are approaching us we don't even speak the same language yet we can see that we've inspired them it's a book about it's obviously you know we should be like ninety years old for the amount of things that we've done and people wonder all how did you get to where you are today and you know what makes you stand for what you stand for and these are stories that nobody has ever heard before that really give you a good you know perspective of why we are the way we are growing up i mean the influence from our parents sort of we were always different kids we you know we got along with everybody but we sort of marsh our own beat in and it shows sort of how

we shaped ourselves to become who we are today. so. the main area we grew for the family separates clary was kid storage so that we can close not arc it doesn't even exist you know we want to see kids' toys everywhere and my headache right now is that they cannot agree on where to go i'm taking a half hour north of here so that's going to have the property but lara is not going to have it all well i just get to focus on the simple things like finishing the drywall you have to deal with psychological and emotional issues exactly i think i need to play a little bit of every word all by yourself. don't you heard what i just made of the doors and be professional yeah this is. serious business i'm going to go to my house tour and then you sit here and fix your hair because it's a mess. you know that tyler i wear the tie on the fashion brother only she t.v. you still buy foreclosed properties and fix them up on occasion we did a lot anymore because we're to fifty renovations you're for the shows but if we see

a property that we think right now we found a house through his fiance found. incredible ninety five year old house here in l.a. and so we're doing a top to bottom got on that property and it's just a gorgeous home there are opportunities before close of the foreclosures but the one problem is a lot of people think that's where they can get the deal and then they end up getting themselves up and pay more than the house would actually just sell for in the regular market the house buying today is kind of common in america right everybody is obsessed with real estate even people who don't own it yet want to talk about it people are always looking at things they can do with their own places so i think that if you thought of any subject that people love to talk about the most i would say is probably real estate was there the biggest buy in the life it is most people realize that is their biggest purchase in their life and it's their base investment the tough thing is now it is in a lot of cities that you know first time home buyers feel they just can't afford to get into the market in l.a. new york san francisco it's expensive so we're we're trying to inspire people and educate people as to how they can stretch a budget how they can get into a house will work for their family without blowing which you know it's funny to me

is a lot of people that spend more time kicking the tires of a coffee maker they're buying at wal-mart than they do about it like some people walk into a house not just buy it they don't know that you could lose your shirt there are so many problems you have to come across that's why you have inspected exactly you want to have professionals around you to watch your back as most people don't know about that stuff was your first deal the very first deal for the first house we purchased it was actually a two hundred thousand dollars house it was across the street from the university of calgary we had moved to calories it was a hot market in the mid ninety's and they were canadian and and so we were kids first year university straight out of high school and we end up learning a couple of things of how to get in a property with no money down so we used and assumable mortgage we took over sums mortgage we used vendor financing from the seller and we bought this two thousand our house for two hundred fifty dollars down payment the person who had built it had a stucco fetish everything was stuck on the walls inside and this is the roots everything was this was a big piece to renovate and another little tip actually that we learned and that was the last time we fell victim to this is if you ever tour a house and every window is open and every plug has an air freshener in it this is

a cat. had sprayed over everything in the house and so that was a nightmare to clean and try to mask smells or did you make on it so the first house we actually sold it a year later for a fifty thousand dollars profit and that was when the first light bulb went on for us to say ok this real estate thing because we've never made money like that before and allies were high school kids before that and so we thought this is some we could do do we go to the club and just i think your head john of the john there when let it rain i reinvested i have a friend who's probably the most famous realtor in beverly hills and malibu he's also was called the second best realtor in america could wrap up for next to me and the wall street journal and he said the joy of a realtor is first got to patients is. you deal in the happiest moments of people's lives you turn over a key. they're happy when they're moving in that thing when they're buying and the seller is happy it's always a win win right why do you do you really interesting are you therapists you know

you say that we are always called therapists because we don't just deal with those happy moments with you know getting that your new keys when you're doing a major renovation that can be one of the most stressful things even buying and selling to be the most stressful thing especially in relationships or even if you have kids if you're renovating so you have to be a therapist ability the stress off the shoulders of the buyers i thought it was demo therapy is the best therapy taking a sledgehammer and just busting out an old has never gone through a wall that's the best therapy if you've never tried this i will get you a sled like to break down a house oh my gosh it's because people think now there's nothing that can be done with this house i can make any house beautiful we can find any house and we can polish it make it beautiful you have to just ask yourself is it a good financial decision would it cost too much to make the house beautiful again but i tell you there's potential in any space you did have you dealt with multimillion dollar homes we have i mean right now the house that we're ready baiting here in l.a. it's a multimillion dollar home we've done a few others in new york in connecticut different areas up in vancouver as well

everybody everybody thinks that their house is completely nique that nobody. it had a house like this the issues are going to come across they think it's unique but it's not we've seen it all we've been renovating houses building houses we've come across everything since the mid ninety's so really we see a surprise that we haven't dealt with a tip for a first time home buyer trust professionals you want to bring people in who know the things that you don't because nothing will derail a renovation faster if you take it on yourself and all of a sudden you start to encounter problems you start to lose trades you'll double your budget in your timeline in no time is it true you want to do a talk show is that your next goal yeah well we get asked all the time and we've been approached as well and we come from an improv comedy and sketch background we love live i mean we're actually doing a book tour we're doing a live house parties the scott brothers house party that would be kicking off this month in september and it's exciting for us and we just love the opportunity to be out there face to face and feed off that energy i think the main difference from doing television especially a renovation type show is you don't connect directly with people you still talk to

people through the t.v. screens but being on stage live with somebody like what i used before magic or whatever it is i think it's different is to connect with somebody directly but what's one little bit of advice you give us because we've been watching your career our whole life has for you had to be sincerely curious and you hopefully you have guests who know more than you do don't boast on this long questions don't show warmth be involved in the get go on interview all kinds of people. and as twins you probably can fire back and forth right oh don't you used to the national banter if you read into things that he's thinking yeah it's so funny because it's like we'll say when you have a best friend and you finish each other's sentences when you're identical twins it's times one hundred so there's a lot of times where we'll have a whole conversation in front of somebody we know exactly what each person is thinking it's just like sort of like but then again. coming up we're talking big ricin secret towns with the stock brothers to some politics with up to maybe guess

that's next. people have got to know whether or not fair present or support american people deserve to know your difference at this point does it many must guard against the military industrial war we shall never know gulf. war you should know that there is still yes we do but we must really think oh yeah. future doesn't. take long.

it's called the future we don't need. every the world should experience fleas and you can get it on the old low. the old according to just. come along for the rye. there's a real irony going. to think that it responsible points need people and there is always what i think that's always been something dealing with the baltimore area now wholesale surveillance you feel you have already while those who intend to size less than trump has used social media well i always our lead story goes it's garbage real genuine. that will be very successful stuff brothers my god probably brothers brother versus

brother the forthcoming book good takes to our story. probably brothers buying and selling the new season of that is wednesdays at nine pm on h g t the couple things on the in the area of canada do canadians raghad us so i believe differently than a lot of things i mean i think the navy is a more laid back you know there are a lot laid back very people think canada so different than the us we've lived in the us for eight years johnson's been nearly ten years there are a lot of similarities but at the end of day they're very proud as well and so they you know we live here they're probably mention canada ever in interviews and what we're doing but it's it's a great country lately i've had canadians tell me with every breath because we have a normal leader. or somebody who sees was up by a twitter like trudeau well you know the interesting thing is i haven't followed a lot of canadian politics at the end of the day i think that the leader whether they're american or canadian or any leader in general i think it needs to be somebody that should lead by example is somebody that you would trust to come into

your house and babysit your children and i do think that there are a lot of policies that you see coming out of the kid in government that are a lot more considerate of their neighbor not a fan of mr trump but you know we've definitely had a disagreement and we have a few but i would definitely say that justin trudeau has better hair than our president and you both environmentalists right very much so i mean they're not going to be disappointed leaving the parasitical of course but it's really nice though to see everyone else is picking up where they left off and i think there's so much that we have to do instead by at least on his head lead by example and so even though we're filming for a she t.v. for our show here the renovation we're doing everything that we can to show that we're doing green the climate reality john that was just with al gore what two weeks ago it's fascinating about pulling out of the paris accord as it was just a letdown to the majority of the american people was also let down the rest of the world because they do look to us as a leader but it was interesting because the reactions the opposite of what we

thought it was going to be people were so appalled by the fact that you know. you know they were aggressive goals they were very very realistic that it's actually had the opposite effect helped yeah it's almost like the whole every action has a reaction ok we play a little game of if you only knew all right ok secret talents secret talents of ping pong have a ping pong nerd you know it's less for majestic a lot of people don't know you biggest risk of a taken oh man i would say a movie in las vegas you know the economy collapsed and i gave up everything i came to las vegas and started fresh i want to say we had left me well that's when i'd gone from calgary at this is ten years after high school i moved back to vancouver to pursue acting and actually that was the launch for property or others because if i didn't go back there to start auditioning again we would have never been to approach for the show childhood celebrity crush. christina applegate who's from facts of life joe overplayed joe had a big crush on you guilty pleasure haunted houses diskeeper is their escape always

give it others caper you have to do one with us because you need to have intelligence when you're in the room if you ever heard of them skate escape or get locked in a room you have to solve riddles and puzzles to find hidden clues and hidden keys to get yourself out if you don't get out within an hour they kill you you never want to be the dumb friend in the room with everybody because you'll be ridiculed but we have done them all over the world what's what's on your bucket list. i can check this interview off for a bucket list one hundred percent leaving interviewed by larry king on a person you'd trade places with for a day michelle obama we've done some work with her on mosque just seeing things that we don't even know are coming down the line something you wish you were better at. taking down time and enjoying. personal time yeah something really in do you work i am deaf there workaholic what do people get wrong about canada. we don't live in igloos and take sleds with dogs to work i think it's that we're so different from americans you know i think we have more similarities than we have differences but people seem to focus on what the latter did wrong

about twins were not attachment umbilical cord let's test if he feels that yeah yeah i'll think. yeah people are names wrong all the time that's the one thing i never really get it's jonathan scott if you want in real estate or would you be done. really magic i love magic just always love that love that look of what i do you know be acting and directing scripted full time that's my other big passion and so you might both still be doing that someday right i think yeah i mean we see those ghosts you could be very successful and still do well those so that's exactly it and we still do our production companies covers entertainment still does some scripted people can have many passions and told me something people don't know about you i'm actually a very shy person like of right if i'm not with people that i nor what not i'm not the guy to ever be out in front of people i like to sit back and listen to people he leaves out to me some people don't know about me. i'm addicted to sport i like i

like all sports. playing watching hugely do when you see other magicians do tricks do you know how they do it most of the time yes and i can still enjoy it regardless of whether or not i know how it's done but you love it i love it when somebody stops me but oh there's some tricks that you know you couldn't do. that master magician oh it's because even even the stuff i used to perform when i was performing full time i would be able to do it today because you have to practice like any sport you have to practice to be good at what you see too like some of the sleight of hand there are people take d.v.d.'s or c.d.'s and then actually make them appear in the literally do about one hundred in a row that that takes time that's it's like it's like a sport to be able to practice to get that first of all finding a d.v.d. today yeah. he was of so. media questions for you lorna what's your favorite thing about your job and what's your favorite thing about your brother ok you first our favorite thing about the job actually i would say is that i get to work with family

like we shoot we do fifty renovations a year we have we do more content than any other host on the number one a week yeah you think you get annoyed with each other but we just laugh all day long are one big happy family crew i love the moment that we finish the design and hand the keys over the homeowners and they give you a big hug because you're changing people's lives so for me that's the most validating part of what we do how do you know what to charge we don't charge our time so we just for the show yeah so we do it for the show and for a she t.v. but the you know the homeowners they get a lot out of it that you know we basically pimp ourselves out to get discounts for them so that everything we can do to reduce their budget help start the ones out to we want to be able to give to these families who thought they'd never be able to get what they do another front lawn if you had a bigger house that you had redone to live in which one would you choose i would do a castle i were scottish i have always wanted to take a castle and restore it its original beauty but add all the modern amenities that little organ music playing the fantastic the hearst castle and that's an amazing

property if you've been there i haven't yet but the amazing sounds become it can you tell us something cheesy about your other brother. something cheesy. and funny actually about john and i tease him about this all the time he has this thing where he is like nails on a chalkboard if you listen to somebody brush their teeth but it's like over the top of him he will really shiver and he'll run these are a show. same for you fall out the house oh you. know about him for drew something people don't realize he wears a garter to hold his shirts down it's like art it's like a reverse garter on his legs that holds his dress shirt from one talking if you do you have not used these this is apparently all the rage now your men don't it. i mean that's exactly it it holds a bomb the sure if you've ever wonder how i'm so polished on it she t.v. that's him but you don't want to walk in on him while these dresses are better than holding your socks up as a skirt actually reverse character design

a two one one to a two what are some unusual d.i.y. projects you have seen clients try to do in rows and renovation. yourself so yeah we had this one homeowner i'm buying and selling that we were working with we were what come in to consult with her for the first time this is we're fixing up their house to sell for top dollar and she had this it was dark broken tile piece of tile and she had a hammer with this dark black grout and i thought we thought she was taking it out because it was a dated feature i'm like thank goodness you're taken out but she's actually putting it in thing it's adding value and so that's something i think what you like personally has no bearing on what your house is going to sell for you have to think of what buyers the longer we've been doing these shows the more i've realized people have awful taste terrible awful taste and so if everyone was a designer everyone would have a beautiful house and we've got or not so i like it the people can use our shows as inspiration but shouldn't you design your house for you not about selling it that would come later well buying and selling is what we're doing that show that's literally just propping your home to sell for top dollar off so if you're going to

be staying in a house and living there yeah you can do certain things but we always say don't do something that's so personal for example we have this person who they built a secret compartment off their. master bathroom to get into their star trek paraphernalia room it's really weird and very specific but that's something that will never add value in the end don't go spend a fortune doing something so unique and different that it's going to cost you a fortune to renovate about and not even just for that too you got to think about your family your home the whole purpose our philosophy is your home should make your life easier so if you have you know four kids three husbands and six dogs you're going to be you know trashing the hardwood floors if you want hardwood floors so there's products today that are like single board laminate that are indistinguishable from engineer hard what and they're one hundred times more durable so there's there's ways to design a house a little step function for your family so our advances in technology have also come into homes so he absolutely especially for being eco friendly you know when you're looking to reduce your carbon footprint you're looking to reduce pollution you know v.o.c. there may also products today that do

a phenomenal job and even solar solar is i mean the cost of solar has plummeted even subtly if you want digital blinds you can digitally close the blinds in your window nowadays you can check your fridge or fridges that have cameras inside so i'm at the grocery store and you can check your shelves to see what you're missing it's great tech you can watch larry king on your bathroom mirror while you're brushing your teeth of you know that you can do any glass surface you can digitize and make a t.v. that is not in the technology exists at l.z. of our company at what age did each of you have u.f.o. should date and where did you go john there was the dawn one before i was i was hardly awkward i was a kid. i remember the very first thing i said the girl that had a crush on her on the swing set in elementary school and she had been seeing this other kid who was away and i said to her if if you kiss me right now i'll never bug your talk to you ever again and she said well how about you kiss me and we stay best friends you know my first day was a drive through i went to a drive in movie theater so that was you know they got you know i don't remember

the movie was back then he was so awkward guarantee to do not half back to what is it like to have your brother and fuchsias just two more as clients for reggie. for renovation job it is like this. no it's not about so we have i mean it's their house i'm actually leaving a lot of the design to them to bring in influence of things that they're looking for fiance linda is an incredibly creative person so i love working with people who can make decisions and people who are as creative as the linda also went to school for architectural design so having her myself and jonathan working together three minds are better than one for what we're trying to create not do this if your shows are real right they are realists there we get that all the time when people ask for their that's why we get really emotional shows and finally one i just became a real estate agent shawna starks any advice the big thing i would say is you get the experience by joining a team instead of trying to go out on your own it can be more expensive that way to learn from a team an experienced real estate agent if you can and remember that you are your

own brand so you have to build your brand over and above the brokers you work with your your own brand and your best business is going to come from staying in touch with past clients you're not just servicing people to buy their home you're staying in involved in their lives so that you're an advisor and anything really does a great thank you so it's a good letter and thanks to my guest john a good man to stop the memoir it takes two was available september and probably brothers buying and selling is one of those days at nine pm on h.g. to be and it's always fun change things see you next time.

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