time after time say we're going underground as nato nations provoke russia with u.s. led war games across ukraine coming up in the show as trump provokes nuclear holocaust with north korea by denying pyongyang a peace treaty a d p r k advocate warns the world of the annihilation of both guam and okinawa u.s. bases and thirty five years of the day that u.k. u.s. backed israeli defense force its focus on the massacre of up to three thousand palestinians and lebanese refugees we speak to the tony award winning director of

all is low about the forging of peace was like do you know what you have for breakfast but i think you want to steer clear of it advice on breakfast at this week's u.k. pm queues all the ball coming up in today's going underground but first which is more dangerous to british national security this is. the test of a hydrogen bomb designed to be mounted on intercontinental ballistic missile with a pathic success or this. the support on the ground for families in the initial hours was not good enough people were left without belongings without roofs over their heads without even basic information about what happened what they should do and where they could seek help juries in may there the british prime minister his chief of staff gavin of barwell is alleged to have sat on the report on fire safety before the grand tragedy which killed at least eighty people in west london over the summer well britain certainly looks like it is preparing to defend itself from north korea the united states is fully entitled to defend its own territory to

defend its bases and to look after its people but this involves asked london is closer to north korea and its missiles the los angeles but its defense against austerity that kills from greenfeld to the thirty thousand killed by cuts to health and social care budgets according to the u.k. royal society of medicine this is the retired judge appointed by juries are made to make decisions about what causes grenville i'm well aware that the residents want a much broader investigation whether my inquiry is the right way in which to achieve a time more doubtful and that's before he gave his extraordinary press conference this week well given the british government sees not of sterett is the enemy but north korea i'm going to talk to one hundred out of bed or so who facilitates visits to the d.p. ok he joins me from tarragona in spain unanimous decision at the u.n. security council we're being told in western nato nation media

a great victory for nikki haley america's ambassador to the united nations who knows british foreign secretary boris johnson would do the sanctions that we voted for mean for north korea. well they mean basically nothing north korea is the more sunshine country in the well we have been. around those sanctions since nine hundred forty eight and they will only give us more strength and determination to develop for nuclear deterrence do you think it surprises the north korean leadership i mean we're obviously washington knows that sanctions against say cuba haven't worked since the their revolution in the fifty's of course they can impose sanctions from united nations but life and international commerce is very different where the countries say in the security council later they will be finding things in reality so are actually international commerce going to be stopped so what we are going to seize i know there are big failure from the british of the united

states until they really realize that a negotiation is the only option but western media and western politicians say that north korea doesn't want to negotiate and just wants to explode hydrogen bombs. are all we have been demanding final peace treaty that would soon end to the korean war that the united states started in ninety three so we always are to all the presidents of the united states we have been offering to possibility of signing a final peace treaty i mean even developing relations i didn't go about the level that have been we we have in jefferson clinton in the ninety's so we have they want to continuously that we want to live in peace but what we are not going to do is to be invaded like the united states have made libya going to stand or our. of course trump hasn't mentioned any negotiations final statement goshi asians or north korea but he did say as

a candidate you've got to give kim jong un credit how many young guys he was like twenty six or twenty five when his father died to take over these tough generals and all of a sudden it's incredible what do you think kim jong un thought of trump saying the kim was a pretty smart cookie. well except that no. we of signal we don't get that he wanted to engage that he realized that the previous administrations in the united states had no sex. so we thought at the beginning that he really wanted to know what went into seeing this young people in the machine but as he is the bella being he's presidency we are seeing that many of his prophecies are completely wrong and talking about yuri and other these saying they're our leader is very clever or he would be all in or to meet person so he is really

a person or at least continuously bouncing from one step to the other is very unpredictable but. not very predictable he said we want to be big forty eight north korea will continue developing it. to protect itself from the u.s. invasion and deal united states he. took your e.g. to us that he is not going to attack in libya obviously britain played its part in wiping out twenty percent of korea's population but when i put. the point through the leader of the westminster parliament or body committing on the d.p. r. k. lo dalton. talking about the provocations alleged from war games on your on the north korean border he said i want to minute what about the famine organized by the north korean government that killed two million people and what about killing draw and killing kim jong il's eldest son can join them in kuala lumpur using weapons of

mass destruction of the port. well it's completely fake that he was a kenyan now i mean such a ne'er agent was never very fights or nobody saw that supposed to be never agent more that person was not there or that it needs from already there when she was identified we don't know the name in use on passports that borneo the north korean nation less making trade with china west never even the possibility for diplomats in kuala lumpur other countries to access such florrie so it can be completely many related it has been in control kind of a horror story science fiction because if such never agent was used in such a big airport well i don't want it has to be quarantined for a long time and never happen so they are really just program now from which the media as usual where they said that our generals die but suddenly after one week

they receive data in the here and ninety percent of the names of north korea are faith i know usually they're running docs from united kingdom nuclear power that is no more the nice thing it's nuclear submarines and it's nuclear you silence so has nothing to say about this or a nation like north korea who will never allow the kind of interest interference in internal affairs of the country yet media doesn't talk about the upgrading of trident as printed for a shoe of course but british defense secretary said michael fallon said london could be a target rather than los angeles what about me we're just hearing. allegations in the western press that north korea could retaliate for us legit aggression by cyber attacks on western interest. in the out sophisticated is that weaponry well it's very very close and this shows. how much

is that propaganda going on and holywood her decision against north korea every day one day they said we have no electricity we have no internet we have no computers we're starting today and the next day they say we are talking sun pictures next day they said we are the best talkers in the world one day they say the info out of north korea next to this is that all of the out there one hundred thousand people in north korea that are working overseas so they are contradicting themselves going venous really they are ridiculous they have no idea what is the p.r.c. how the p.s.p. things and how we are really in the country and of course we have a very good terrain i will and people that have access to the internet and we can really wear one doc have a hack at our back or now or no objective but obviously is not going to be shown to be just for something ridiculous like by in any case they look at the ignorance is the biggest power that we have now the hydrogen bomb is social ridiculous or wrong

and to say that we are going to bag longer whatever not we are going to attack eat we are invaded we are going to answer by these joining the military bases of the us in the pacific like. yellow one on okinawa after we are talking about their military one of their whatever that they are not the people protesting the base in okinawa presumably gives them warning before you blow that up. yes or about we're not going to enter into war i mean i have to tell you something many people don't know is that the u.s. is really big house for negotiation right now well being is the big dogs around the emperor that billionaire be showing to the world how powerful the east and making america strong and great again but i mean the other side our diplomats are receiving continuous requests for negotiation from the secretary of state so one thing is what appears in the t.v. another things their diplomats they are being read or negotiation to us is finally

and briefly. perhaps many would accept that there we had only one side in the western press about north korea what did you make of these are allegations by amazon's washington post newspaper that accuse you of breaking into a journalist was it in pyongyang their hotel room well i again had it's a journalist not only one there was one cases to see if you could be for maybe she knows morse that he didn't fulfill all the requirements and also into the country so he started to spy and feel only person i know on that case because i was responsible for his pisa i had to confiscate those that material to bring it to the court so after our people checked the material and discovered their real who foresaw and humour's was a spine was not journalists there he was given the option of signing an apology to leave the country and leave the material into the well the way he will be sentenced . so that's what happen on

a single piece but you have to take into account that they bring media almost on a monthly basis to north korea so well you i mean obviously you see your role as counterpunching against western propaganda as you see it about the d.p. ok what is your role at the moment within the administration as it were. i work especially for the committee for cultural relations with foreign countries but they also are part of a great for me to see the country might work used basically as a reach for everybody that needs a watch to conduct north korea in any kind of project or idea so i yes basically the person in the middle that makes things happen when someone wants to go to north korea want to do something it's difficult to approach the embassies you don't have much personnel around or you don't know where to go then to contact me on a forward to the related department so i kind of reach for the country including journalists of course which are very soon also another australian channel

struggling to make you know commentary about the great joke out a bit of thank you after the break we speak to the director of the tony award winning play all slow about one norwegian couple's dream of peace which good to do in accord signed between israel and palestine twenty four years ago this was to raise a lady friends her record from jeremy corbyn to the united nations at the last pm cues before conferences and told us about going over part two of going underground . in case you're new to the game this is how it works the economy is built around quite recent operations from washington the washington post media the media the. voters elect. to run this country business because.

you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before . prescribe medication is widespread on the u.s. market and a frequent cause of death and. i just felt like everything was ashes my family was literally coming unglued i had actually planned. to commit suicide watch all who has made antidepressants so commonly used we were doing what the doctor scold us to do we were being responsible and what the real side effects. was. what i did was. legal drugs. just because something's legal doesn't mean it's same. welcome back today marks a quarter of a century to the day since britain was forced to leave something called the

european exchange rate mechanism a precursor to the euro currency it came out of the desperate attempts by the then conservative government to stop the free fall of the pound tycoon george soros is that of pocketed a billion pounds by breaking the bank of england but today those who supported britain joining the euro have different questions the kind of questions one might expect from what used to be called the hard left from the prime minister explain the logic behind treating european trip planning knows as an economic threat while at the same time being completely relaxed about european ownership and control of the railways the water system the electricity companies that run didn't do you the last week the takeover of one of britain's few remaining technology companies of beaver isn't is a question to begin to divulge to big business paranoid about people the former u.k. business secretary and now new leader of the liberals was asking his old colleague

in the david cameron coalition to raise a may of pm queues over there it's not unusual for a libertarian cut to say one thing before the election and another officer or. so many liberal party huge turns in recent years for jeremy corbyn he appeared to be asking a foreign policy question as he name checked the united nations but he wasn't talking about human rights abuses abroad sponsored by the u.k. government the united nations committee say and i quote the government policies of caused grave and systematic violations in the rights of disabled people we've seen punitive assessments in sanctions cuts to disability benefits and the bedroom tax that is disabled people point to. now live in poverty at the weekend mr speaker we were told that the public sector paid a big dropped on monday the prime minister's spokesperson said it would continue as planned yesterday they said the page was over but later found out that we found

out the police and prison officers still face a real terms pay cut so could the promise to tell us what the position is at midday today theresa may wasn't going to discuss austerity and she seemed quite understood by the un criticising britain for her treatment of the most vulnerable in fact she appeared proud of forcing those who should not be working to work for the time that we have been in government we have been seeing more disabled people getting to the workplace we have. crucially we have focused the support we're getting to disabled people on those who are most in need and we have increased the amount of support that is being given overall to disabled people so they gain the picture that the present is not a fair one and presumably neither is the picture of a britain abusing human rights painted by the united nations i have a. thirty five years ago today british armed israeli defense forces catalyze

the killing of up to three and a half thousand palestinian and lebanese civilians in beirut known as the sabra and shatila massacres. was part of the i.d.f. that violence is against the palestinian liberation organization ongoing war that continues to threaten the lives of civilians today this week also marks the anniversary of the one thousand nine hundred three also the accords a brief treaty between israel and palestine which is the subject of the tony award winning play it's on of the national theatre in london until the twenty third of september the blaze tony award winning director bought the joins me now thanks so much for coming on the show so tell us a story of a couple in love we involved with yeah i mean yeah you know i'm the story of oslo was one of those things that my playwright had to rogers and i were really incident because it's it's got all the perfect ingredients for theater as a neutral observer kind of like a proxy for the audience this norwegian couple. who decide to begin a back channel peace process with no one's permission not their own governments

permission israeli or palestinians permission and within nine months they have the only peace agreement in the region in the history of the region really that's worked in any way so we when we heard about all this we just thought this could make up a great great play and we call it like an intellectual thriller i have to say it's fascinating at no point does it sound like. now and politicking in the middle east you know the actual couple yeah i do yeah with it came up and you know you have rose yeah it actually turned out that i'm my daughter's best friend in second grade had two parents who are from norway and they happened to be peace negotiators and so i met ty and mona at school in new york city it's a kind of a new york city's times story and we would go to soccer matches and tire problems and would tell me crazy stories about middle east peace which most of the other parents weren't discussing and from there we kind of brought them in and introduce them to j.t. and i thought we could make

a play in features of the beginning with a. glass and seems to say is this is a sociologist it comes out of the play now and he just has a different name. here of how the peace negotiations should should work yeah he has a theory which we stayed in the play called gradualism which is which is different from what other people call total ism where most of us when we think opposed to peace negotiations are huge conferences with people on two sides of a table the press everywhere staring at each other going through working out issue by issue gradualism was to take small groups of people away to private settings without any media attention and begin to build trust and have them talk about their families and eat dinner together and live together and work through their issues and it was just a completely he he did it as an organizational psychologist seeing how people actually behaved and learned and built actual trust so we use that as a way of setting up how the play works i remember one of the go she asians came out

late to a child's toy to stop working and you'll play food and the way food is you know there's no mediator in that room but when they come out they eat when they get them out they eat and drink together and they talk and waffles norwegian waffles are a big part of the play because at certain points under great tension they sit and eat have desserts and do that and when they arrived and also to begin with they fought over everything and it's a little hard to understand exactly how much pressure the negotiators were under because it was secret. the people showing up from the p.l.o. are you know on and house on this for literally their own lives were at stake and the israelis it was illegal to even speak to the p.l.o. at the time under very little under israeli law so all of it was completely under the highest stakes you can get and if you're making theatre you want it to seem really scary so it's weird because we started the play before the last election the united states and we thought it was about house and israelis by the time we opened

on broadway it was about republicans and democrats for us it was really and yeah because you know the differences got so intense that people were coming to watch like had. you get impossible enemies into the same room to have a conversation about something we had the drone was a democrat i'd want to point apparently he was and then you know so these things are always crazy but in our country right now it became very intense for audiences to watch i mean you do this global war doesn't seem to be naive at the beginning but then you see what great success comes of is the aries trump of course just seems that when he said i think we can work a middle east peace process that similarities between i have no similar first of all he i mean i don't think is expecting to make any money out of any of the deals that he's making i don't like a little trouble the program to yeah yeah yeah you know i think the ambitions and idealism of that when his company actually yes it on jobs could be nothing to do with yeah correct. so i don't know i think their idealism was quite refreshing and

ninety three was a time when people actually remembered you know i grew up remembering people wanting to seek out peace wanting to reconcile differences and that's gotten harder and harder so we we thought we'd find a story to make that happen and that's what will what's great about being in the theaters we can create circumstances for people to participate and that helps them remember and experience the stakes and what's involved in coming to real agreement which is which as you say you remember the seventy's henry kissinger arguably did the great thing when he opened china up to the united states in this play he doesn't come off very well of course they need legal the millions killed in the end of china as well as well. in this play we try to portray people as they are talking about them so we don't have in the long little guys the woods you use about yeah we don't have we have it appealing to the actors and it's kissinger we just that's the characters have opinions and they get to enjoy them. in any bush just like this you're going to get judges of bias both sides and what you've would so far but i

mean did they could to me when i watched it the right of return of palestinian refugees almost thrown away in a line in the play well it's because it was a key element in the negotiations so it's not thrown away but it's required to be a concession right before the larger agreement could take place so it's so hard with something as vast as this for the dinner plates just mentioned very briefly and as it is and it's mentioned as a key moment in order to make it possible for there to be the possibility of gaza and jericho so if you if the palestinians don't give up the right of return and there would have been no palestinian authority or god search so they're all little bit linked and so now these two characters one of them is just having taken a position as a norwegian about his london yes correct that's right and tire runs the international peace institute in new york city the russians manifest themselves as a because of their education of the palestinians the americans. kind of sinister and at the same time seem to control things at the last minute well it's funny well

i do think there's a couple of interesting parts about the american you know that it no i don't think so i think it's important especially for american audiences i think what was important for j.t. was to take america out of the conversation so you could have a conversation with an american or relation to israel was very close very and involved so i think the play was trying to put the focus on the norwegians approach and bring them together what is true about all slow is that the americans handled it very how to get lee once they knew you know in other words they said they came in and they quietly took charge and they made the agreement come together in a way that was quite deft on the part of warren christopher and and president clinton so their party was moving the norwegian offices with this stately home wherever it is that the first meetings are good what we actually had was really innocent as revelations we had president clinton and mrs clinton come and see the play which they love very much i asked president clinton did you know in advance about about what was going on and also he said of course we knew but we thought

since it was going well we should stay out of it because they did know despite all that i mean i don't want to you know see a order in that he seemed to have very very strong to me obviously great command of the situation and was very positive about and seemed highly nuanced about how to handle these kinds of situations it was it was really fascinating to talk to him he'll get i mean you're a woodward anyway this is an award winning you're going to make a film out of this i mean the film industry and this process are arguably very related steven nugent is a treasury secretary supposedly introduced bradley had an educated julie you're going to be able to make a holywood version of this without seeming pro israel. i don't think there's any question we will make an extremely balanced. conversation here because that's really i don't our experience of working with the film industry in terms of beginning to put together the thing everyone's interest has is in the powerful. accomplishments of oslo and that means hearing both sides of the story so i think

that that's going to be a deep and profound feature of the film and of course it stops at the shaking of heads so what's your feeling now about the failure of the whole process well we were interested in making sure that people saw that it was possible for the very impossible foes to come together and find agreement. and we are very honest in the play about the consequences of oslo and and what followed i'm pretty positive about the situation because it's only been seventy years which is an incredibly long time of world history of course believe a strong solution is still possible but both sides both sides have to want such. thank you that's it for the show we'll see on monday when the u.k. shadow minister for fire and emergency services chris williams and blames the fire in london on forty years of a neo liberal deregulation and. even touched by social media a film of the one hundred twelve years to the day of the book the swedish war that . was multiple before the us house un-american

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