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a heavily outnumbered group of russian military police were powerless surprise attack by terrorists in syria. thousands gather in boss alone to protest against spanish police arresting cancelling is junior economy minister as madrid turns up the heat over the region's coming independence referendum. trump slams iran syria and north korea in his speech at the u.n. general assembly but its overall tone sounds remarkably similar to the speeches of his predecessors. in america we do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone i do not think that america can or should impose our system of government.
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that's it for me for not a day or two to we'll be here in around an hour's time with all the latest news stay with us. hello and welcome to crossfire for all things are considered. the one word that describes american politics today is divisions the line that divides liberals from conservatives is deep and even worrisome to make things worse there are some of the same dividing lines within the major political parties can these breaches the mend .
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cross talking parties in crisis i'm joined by my guest new york is a conservative political commentator and in percival we have ned ryan he is the founder and c.e.o. of american majority origin and crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate steve let me go to you obviously woods we've seen what the result of the last election cycle actually going all the way back to two thousand and ten is that we have the growing divisions between the parties and but one of the things that really concerns me is the divisions within the parties as well we have a sitting president. nominally head of the republican party has very little support in congress to get his agenda done which the american people voted for there's no doubt about that but also we have in the democratic party will hillary simply will not go away and this. new attacks on bernie
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sanders i mean one would have thought it would be time to start healing i mean you know in the republican should get in line instead of aligning themselves with sometimes democrats. responding more to donors and their own political future here so you know do we have the two parties that are really kind of diffuse right now we don't have a very clear mission because we have individuals that do but we don't have the parties doing the same thing and needless to say the democrats have absolutely nothing to say go ahead. well yeah i think the democrats are are in bigger trouble i'll get to the republicans in a second i think the democrats it's been what how many three four congressional elections in a row that have resulted in in the. where we are right now with the congress being overwhelmingly in the house republican in the senate of course i mean this is going on election cycle after election cycle and the democrats don't seem to get it now in the aftermath of the clinton wing of the democratic party notwithstanding the
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fact that hillary not only won't go away but now she won't rule out contesting the election if you can believe that one who is the leader they have no direction they have no but say have no leadership you've got bernie sanders he's a socialist you've got a little bit warren you've got the black congressional black caucus you've got you've got schumer you've got pelosi they're all over the place now as far as the republicans go with it but every very disheartening that the leadership hasn't learned a thing going. against did a great job and they're going to head in part going to go ahead though i do want to jump in again and but highlight the fact forget about the democrat party at the federal level they have been absolutely devastated at the state level as well between twenty ten and twenty sixteen they've lost about eleven hundred seats at the state and federal level if you look at the governorships there's thirty four republican governors and i you know there are seventy of the ninety nine state legislatures that are now in republican hands and you have over twenty five trifectas meaning republican governor state senate and state house in republican
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hands the democrat party has been devastated six years again because there is no really strong message that resonates with the american people but you're also talking about there is some fresh there are some fractures within the republican party but the point that i want to make about people call it the trump agenda no republicans across the board ran on tax reform and repealing obamacare this is not just trump's agenda this is the republican agenda so when you look at the i call intentional inability to push for this agenda i'm not really sure. what republicans are thinking because guess who is on the ballot next year they are not trump and so they better figure out for self-preservation how are they going to get some of these things done again repealing obamacare and moving on tax reform you know steve that you speak i speak to that because it's unlikely because what's really quite remarkable because meds absolutely right for seven and half years they said you know let's get rid of obamacare and now it's dropping into their hands and and then you have again the divisions within the republican party you had john mccain i
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think out of spite more than anything else not really it's beyond comprehension sometimes i don't know if you saw his speech i mean there were snippets of it there were real a real statesman and then he ended up really being i'm sorry a jerk on this on the floor of the senate i mean this is the thing that i'm talking about because there is there is you know when you cut the cut cut underneath the president here and his agenda no one is winning the republicans are winning the democrats only and the american people aren't winning either i mean i don't see any real strong responsibility and you know i can i can take it or leave. it that's a totally different issue here but i'm talking what people ask for from their elected representatives go ahead steve well i like the fact to a degree that the republicans don't march in lockstep like the democrats do i mean there are some things to be said for marching in lockstep because things get out of
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it that the republicans took the credit of some of them don't i mean there's a lot of different factions within that party however having said that seeing the opportunity that's been presented with the kind of victory that donald trump won with what he has brought to the table how he's energized the country energized the base and having the house and having the senate to have people like john mccain and he's certainly not alone thwart the health care almost singlehandedly as you point out and do it with the bitterness and do it with a vengeance against donald trump and to hear people like the leadership like marc. cottle go after trump and pull ryan criticize trump at every turn at every tweet and i mean this is beyond real political differences within the republican party there are people and the leadership is included that just don't want to see donald trump they think he's an aberration and they think he's going to bring them down and they don't realize they're bringing themselves down that there's a huge misreading of the electorate i think if go ahead ned jump in go ahead. no i
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would argue in fact i agree with steve that they need to understand they are working against their own interests forget about the fact that there is there is some strong personal dislike of trump within the g.o.p. establishment in fact it's becoming very apparent again as i said the paul ryan into to a greater degree mitch mcconnell there has been a certain inability and it's been intentional the past the thing that i will say though is as you start to look at where they're at right now with the cassidy graham bill you're looking at tax reform i think they're starting to at least understand that twenty eight thousand is coming and the american people have a very short fuse these days if they will not pass a legitimate tax reform and legitimate health care reform they're going to be in trouble next year and i would say again paul ryan has to understand there are no givens that people will simply vote for republican because they're not democrats people want to see legitimate reform again the working class there's a reason that six to eight million of the working class that voted for obama voted
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to turn sixteen they want to see something that addresses their issues which again are jobs the economy future security immigration all of these things and the argument i make to a lot of these g.o.p. establishment people that are struggling with the trump agenda you know what follow the agenda and i think he can take them to dominance of decades if they will simply pass the three big things tax reform health care reform and immigration reform you know steve one of the things that's interesting and maybe but maybe you know this maybe i'm going to hang on you know you know one of the things that i think interesting since hillary clinton stole the primary from bernie sanders we would have had bernie sanders and donald trump but what i think is really interesting is that really should might my mind because this i'm not really in nam merge with the parties ok i'm more interested in the outlook and that we would have had very starkly different outlooks in that race and i think it might have been healthy for the country to see what would have played out because it was the middle. more
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definitive but of course hillary cheated as she always does and her husband always do ok and they continue to do ok and i think this is one of the things that is very telling about the establishment parties they are not listening to their electorates on left and right go ahead steve well i think you're absolutely right i mean again i think hillary is really in significant i think the democrats wish she'd go away and they some have said so said some of said it quietly and i don't think there's a clinton wing of the party any longer i just don't think there's i think there's too many wings of that party and i think they're going to suffer for it big time however i do agree that if and i don't see this is what i don't understand republican leadership and republicans in congress and in the senate have to know that if they don't get things done if they don't pass tax reform if they don't repeal and replace obamacare then they're going to lose control quite possibly of
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the house and maybe the senate they have to know this yet the year is gone by they took their vacation they're doing nothing that the leadership is bad mouthing the president is that all turned around in a way team they should've known they never should have gone on vacation because i didn't do any work here let me let me go to ned before we go to the break here i think there is a clinton wing of the democratic party and it's called the mainstream media they're the ones that continue to support her failed unpopular agenda the media is doing it go ahead. well i would argue again the a lot of us have viewed the mainstream media is the p.r. arm of the democrat party but i would say i would actually agree that the clinton wing is shrinking this is not the same democrat party that it was twenty years ago i mean it's the same name but its essence has changed i mean the democratic party right now i believe is being devoured inside by its far left donors and by its far left grassroots and i truly believe that in two thousand and twenty the democrat
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party will actually put up someone so far to the left of mainstream america that you will have those clear choices that we didn't have in two thousand and sixteen that's a very good point and teeth are also is a wing of the democratic party i would i would argue steve i'll give you one minute before we go to the break go ahead steve one minute for the break yet no i could i could not agree more i mean you talk about how the parties changed since bill clinton he's had to apologize for signing don't ask don't tell he's had to apologize for welfare reform he's had to apologize for that criminalized the crime bill and and putting people in jail everything he did he had to say i'm sorry a badge and how would change from the days of kennedy i mean john kennedy would would would would know what right had he was looking at so he i believe by in two thousand and twenty and beyond this party is falling off the cliff that's absolutely the case you know and bill clinton never apologized for what he should apologize for gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll take care of what it's going to put on parties in crisis.
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the cold war hard sell you on the idea that dropping bombs brings peace to the chicken or forcing you to fight the battles that are going. to do so for the tell you that the because of the template for. my eyes and tell me you pull it out. of all that we already know what. prescribed medication is widespread on the us market and a frequent cause of death at that point in my life i just felt like everything was ash and my family was literally coming unglued i had actually planned. to commit suicide watch all who has made antidepressants so commonly used we were doing what
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the doctors told us to do we were being responsible and what the real side effects . was simply alter what i did was done on a cocktail of legal drugs. just because something's legal it's saying. welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle turn to remind you we're discussing parties in crisis. ok now i'd like to introduce doug we in washington he's a presidential historian and a former white house adviser to two american presidents and also before i want to plug his book here game of thornes inside story of a hillary clinton's failed campaign and donald trump's winning strategy all right
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in the first part of the program we're talking about the problems that both major parties are facing here i want to change the gear a little bit in give this to you is there such a thing is trump ism and will try if there is will trump ism survive donald trump go ahead doug. heye peter i was listening to part of. part of that conversation earlier and i felt the one thing that was missing is that both parties republican and democrat are so corrupt there are a wonder of a gamble who are thank you the legislature and the wonderful people who are serving the agencies of government then and some of them are extreme. really honest but there are so many deals going on i'll hire your nephew please hire my wife and pay or ten times what she's worth corrupt the level of corruption is so great who cares whether you're a democrat or republican i just want my money that's what's going on and donald
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trump represents a threat to both democrats and republicans and big companies who are on the make who are on the take they gave money to the clinton foundation they expected it back one hundred times over with government contracts corporate welfare now exceeds welfare for the poor so donald trump represents not so much a new party or even a new philosophy he is the great disruptor he represents us threat to the corruption that is reached a level like brazil or congo even though it's legal ok well what i would if i go to steve here what i like here is that you have you have to you have two visions there you can watch the president on twitter or you could watch the emmys ok i'll decide for the viewer decide which one will lose you'll be forced to lose your lunch here but you know. you know steve one of the things that i think is really really important here is that like him or dislike him respect him or disrespect him trump
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has figured out the toral strategy for possibly a generation to come ok and i think that's what's really significant here ok is how his appeal maybe not his love personal appeal but his approach to politicking on a nationwide scale and i think that's the most significant thing about trump ism go ahead steve. trump ism is being unafraid i knew that of the seventeen candidates up on that stage for during the republican primaries the only one that could beat hillary clinton was donald trump because i knew he would say things and go places that none of the others would if they others would act like john mccain and mitt romney and or you can say that and or you better not bring that up donald trump is unafraid and that's what's driving i think the leadership of the republican party crazy because they still think that if you act civil if you do i don't have anybody don't offend an independent just played by the republican traditional playbook
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which loses and the media will love you and everybody will love you and that's not it donald trump is proven that does not exist anymore and people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and others just can't accept that and well except that they think that when trump goes somehow someday someway you know i.z. he doesn't run again already you losers or whatever they will be back to normal they will never be normal again you know in an idiot i might think the average. voter doesn't want to be loved i think they want to have a functioning economy and solid borders ok and a future to look forward to i don't care if i am loved ok i think that this message here again this is the media that does this this is the media that does this all the time i'm offended i'm offended i'm i'm offended by the media and what they concentrate on what two scoops of ice cream who's standing next to whom what is this all about is it's like criminology in washington it's ridiculous here and i
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think that's what i'm agreeing with what with doug said here is that you know in your face this is what we're going to do you're with us or you're not with us and if you don't like it voted out ok that's as simple as that we don't need a conspiracy theory like we've seen for the last year go ahead and. that's right no but there are a couple things though the dog hit upon that i think you need to consider when you're looking at american politics i actually wrote about this a few years ago it's people want to look at as a republican versus democrat i think you need to look at it more of the ruling class versus the non ruling class versus the american people agree and if you start to look at that framework and understand the republican establishment democratic establishment there's a certain status quo that they don't want to see change and i don't like it when it's called trump ism because the thing that i think that donald trump has hit upon that the american people have embraced is a common sense approach i've said it's not republicanism or democrat as it's american ism and that's why i think that you do have the ability don't call it
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trump ism but call common sense american ism that will last long beyond donald trump's presidency because people are realizing we've entered a little bit peter i call of post party era where people will still register as democrats or republicans but there won't be a strict party allegiance they will want leaders that will actually come up with ideas again that the american people think put them first and not a ruling class or not other interests but the american people who provide the tax base the funds or government well in the in the last election and so it's true is that let me just go ahead real quick steve jump in i was going to say with all due respect i don't think that people care that this guy's son is being hired by this congressman if you hire my daughter and i'll give you this i just think they want they elect people they expect them to do what they were elected to do and and keep their promises and all that other stuff gets pushed a little bit to the side i don't know if it gets pushed to the side here let me go back to here i mentioned the emmys here already on this program and it seems to me
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that this is. the heartland i mean rich people giving each other awards for really mediocre acting ok and other forms of entertainment and or wearing beautiful dresses you know i think the heartland saying i'd like a nice dress too i just want to decent job. ob ok and i i just think this is stark polarization in the culture right now culture matters i think the democrats don't have a clue about that go ahead. totally agree i think it's part of the secret to his election success it's the drain the swamp i mean the rich got richer the poor got poorer under two presidents a democrat and republican at an accelerated rate and if the rich got richer because they outwork the poor or were smarter than the poor would have fixed except it but seventy three thousand pages of regulations to open a manufacturing firm in the united states you know why not because they care about
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meeting all these issues and conditions but because they want to keep you out and you start a hamburger joint in america today your tax money will go to subsidize your competitor down the street he'll get a one hundred million dollar interest free loan from the federal reserve you got to pay for the notes to get money from your relatives to try to get it started or a bank it's a corrupt system and it's it's reached the point that it's touched me i lost the value of my home i lose the value of my four a one ks so now i am mad i didn't mind you would you hire in your nephew or your niece and all the corruption and tell it hit me yet but now it's hit me and i'm mad you know me you know net it's you know it's a private club but we're not invited ok that's that's that's absolutely clear ok and it's not based on merit whatsoever it's based on what your values are perceived
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values are ok and this is what i do group think in the elites and i throw the republicans in there too ok because they're fat and happy i like how the way things are working ok and again i were really want to go back to the media i think this is the media perpetuates this narrative. ok they don't they got the election wrong they got the polls wrong and i think they're really still very wrong but they must pay a price for it go ahead though and you look to the you know i'm all about a free press i'm also about press and if you look at the percentages of negative coverage of about donald trump there's not even they're not even trying to be objective they are trying to drive a narrative and this is why i've said that a lot of these people claiming to be journalists are in fact opinion this and people that are saying the reporters are actually just giving their opinions and trying to drive a narrative and that's why i totally agree with steve bannon when he said the media is acting as an opposition party and at some point that the american people are
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tuning them out and that's why you're seeing the rise of some of these other outlets whether it's bright board or other outlets that are trying to report news and saying we're being honest about where we're coming from yes we have a certain worldview but we're just trying to report the facts and be objective at least on some level the mainstream media has has left behind any objectivity and they are working as an opposition party and i think a lot of you see the american people going hey we want we just want to hear the facts let us make our own decisions for ourselves ok but apparently but apparently and to go out and wants to make those decisions by the way don lemon on c.n.n. doesn't believe they even exist here doug address that issue i guess i must have you know i had eye surgery a happy year ago i guess it didn't work because i watch one clip after another you know of people dressed in black using and using the bike chains to slug people in bay seem to get off the hook go ahead. yeah i think anti flu may come back to bite the democrats because the republicans have been clear trunkless been clear
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rejecting the k.k.k. and rejecting right wing is scream of screwups but i haven't here heard a very clear resoundingly. rejection from the democrats of and teeth a so i think it's going to stick to them i just want to say because your earlier talking about the media there's motive that media is tied up with the corporate world which is then if it's from the corruption in washington i'll scratch your back you scratch mine years ago when i worked in the white house of george h.w. bush when i first went into my office in the white house i had people coming out in the sit down next to me saying well you're going to support this you're going to support that so why would i do that i believe in free enterprise they said because the liberals do it when they're in power if we were the service don't do it when we get in power we'll get left behind so i was astonished that was years ago that's much worse now i want to go to stephen give steve the last word i don't know if you saw the clip about nancy pelosi to talking about dhaka and she was shouted
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down by people demanding that eleven million people be amnestied i think the revolution is eating itself last word steve go ahead well this is a very good lesson and one that republicans should have learned a long time ago and john mccain especially after he ran for president he became when he was running was an enemy he was great to the media before and after they loved him before and after but when he was running they hated him no matter what donald trump or any republican does on dhaka on health care on anything if they give into the democrats this much if they let dr people stay here but they don't let their relatives in but they don't let the parents stay but they have that thirty seconds after this legislation the democrats in the medieval say well why didn't they do this why did they do that you will never look and you will never get credit. what you do never a very spirited debate gentlemen we're brought out of time many thanks to my guests
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opinion christians are really deeply into trying to with each other i think. the world. thinking about. having interests. opposed to those of other nations to one side has to work with the opposite. that's really exactly the world. isn't relevant to the. like so many who tumbled into the world events depressants without forethought david calm i coded so unaware of the potential dangers. when i was a paxil we had no idea katrina delusions or none of that was having the power to me for so many years you just assume my doctor knew best and then about the side
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effects the hard way it's like you just made it into a busy worrying when everything happened and i had just finished grade a it for my friends who knew my father they just knew that something was wrong because they knew who my dad was and you just would never in a million years think that he would do something that he did. currently was a high priority of mine to get the best care possible. her ravenous ways looks. yeah. yeah they become michael had been on sixty milligrams of paxil for two weeks when he and ian set out for one of their favorite father son activities a b.m.x. bike competition in london ontario. yeah. what i've learned in this journey is i know.
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