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swinging would be all but destroyed by the u.k.'s military media industrial complex is it to remind us a b.b.c. journalist who would be reprimanded by the u.k. broke us regulate of a bias against germany corben interviewed former labor chancellor dead is keely before he died to remind us of the evils of the left was he talks sic to the labor party they were damaging to question but what was most damaging was the division of course. because most people knew nothing about the issues we've gone but they do share their dislike you mention hearing people in the same party being rude to one another and with his fault. but jeremy corbyn is leading labor today watch out there for traces of labour's neo liberal past and their character assassination he's a good and decent man so was it hard he's a good man but he's not
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a leader and i just don't think you should share platforms with people who perceive abuse obviously there's no basis on which jeremy really could or should stay. it's not. my party it's my party i never could not look like party to my own family you wouldn't want to go and you wouldn't come to him which. i don't think he's if it be that he did with g i mean i know in fairness i don't think he's going to be asked but what about all the new liberals in the labor party and for that matter what about all the former tory and double democrat politicians along with their civil servants how come they so often land on their feet joining me now is professor david miller editor of power base and co-founder of spin watch president miller thanks for coming back on the show it was the former prime minister david cameron who said that being was the next big scandal waiting to happen after obviously the u.k. politicians expenses corruption case. houses lobbying act twenty four team doing
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how's it doing well. which was intended to quash the idea that we could have any transparency of lobbying the toll it was only introduced because there weren't any said insisted on it in a coalition agreement and when they put it into place to make sure that it secured the least possible transparency and did the most to try and hammer the trade unions and civil society and charities and try and stop them campaigning because there are huge only partially correctly as being against the tories but right now we have critical bricks of negotiations going on even minister right now in the days of may's cabinet meets a low beast in a restaurant bar near westminster they have to they have to admit it surely that's progress. well they had to admit it before there was already disclosure of ministerial meetings and minute meetings with the president secretary but that's the different the difficulty isn't it lovely it's don't just meet boris or the permanent secretary of the home office to push their points although they do do
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that but they also we host of other civil servants and special advisers and think tankers and none of us included so we see according to the lobbyists themselves maybe two percent of lobbying meetings in westminster and we hold maybe less than that we i mean it's a joke we don't see any disclosure on what they're lobbying and how much money they're spending if we're lucky we'll get the clients for which the specific minister or permanent secretary and it's just worse than them the pathetic system we had before so it was an attempt to try and squash this by putting on the stud you pick something which wouldn't tell us anything but you know to be fair in the end the result is that we have. a civil servant now who is in charge of lobbying transparency lovings are and the framework which could be built on her part is a limited she doesn't have enough resources the law she has to force isn't adequate but we have something on the statute now which we didn't have before and that's
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both the concrete existence of the that will be in office and also the acceptance of the principle that loving disclosure should be legally required as opposed to something which is voluntary for the lobbyist so that was a step forward but the concrete the actual feeling of the lobby register with the information is pathetic well to mix my metaphors a little do you think the revolving door of former labor liberal democrat and labor ball that decision's tory politicians who then go into big business that revolving door somehow illuminates the lobbying you're talking of well yes of course it does mean that this is one of the key issues that we faced with lobbying i mean let's not think about let me transparency in. it's meeting the ministers and whether we can find out about that but let's also think. what kinds of routes into parliament into westminster and why hold to the corporations when they have sinned by simply
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employing x. ministers makes labor ministers a liberal democrats x. tories. there's no real regulation of a toll is the only regulation we have for ministers and civil servants is. the key word in the title of a kobo is the first letter the advisory committee of business appointments is a committee with no power which ministers can ignore will which in any case is physically. conflicted with its own conflicts of interest the people who are stuff of what the ex ministers who run a cobra have their own caucus are interested there's no real motive there to to think of eliminating a managing conflicts of interest which is the point that what they do is they say well you mustn't be a bad person a nice speech that your new clients for six months and as if that means that you've eliminated the problem of corruption. yeah i mean even the murdoch times in the past few days is a real forty nine at least forty nine senior white all officials of and private
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consultancies they were naming military education foreign government link linked investment funds what else could we actually say well could you do it's been would as you find out what they're doing because apart from that times report the times couldn't then say right and we bugged the meeting room well of course. there's something to be said before we say what we do about it it's to try to appreciate the full scale of the problem in that this is not just a problem of what whole and westminster it's a problem across the whole of our society the problem innovation to the regulation of the press of the police of education and regulation of all of our society is beset by this problem of the revolving door of business and powerful interest being able to buy up before the in the end will not be critical or probably exercise the regulatory functions and that's a problem we face across the western world and the biggest banks across the world
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have bought into the regulatory. board these are in every single european country for example on in this country to the people who run the regulatory agencies are all explained because if you could you could trust exploiting because to properly regulate the banks it's an absolute joke so the whole system is corrupt and not fit for purpose and when you we hear a news story about britain doing some more fracking or the privatization of education through academies or or selling weapons to dictators and we hear these debates on mainstream media television news behind it is that well because of what is being hidden the the meetings. yes of course i mean i mean i mean you know. the help of the police and the police is regulated by the i.p.c.c. a body which seems to favor employing x. police officers to investigate the police because they're supposed to know something about policing well you know if you want to know what police corruption is all about then you the first thing you do is you can do employ police to
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investigate and the first thing you do if you want to regulate the press is you do employ newspaper editors to regulate the newspaper industry that's a job for the stories only keep e m g officials stuffing regulatory bodies and these are you know this it's nice to restrict part but this is across the whole of our system and you need to think about ways in which you regularly industries government central government by regulatory bodies which are independent means really independent of the independent budgets to improperly investigate and have the will to properly investigate powerful institutions in our country this is the case b.m.g. story which. was because the regulator found that nothing untoward happened. twenty billion ok but i mean we're trying to recruit people of a low being industry graduates watching this program but is it a golden age for these industries right now after the repeal bill in the so-called in or the eighth. laws that raise them is brought in because of bricks that people
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can now meet around the corner from this studio and try and get their little piece of legislation has it and let's not fool ourselves so long golden age i mean. the golden age started with a single european act lobbyist started to flock to brussels there were hardly any lobbyists in brussels before the single european act and maastricht and now there are thousands and thousands of them. this was not a haven remains a haven for corporate lobbyists and particular lobbyist for transnational corporations. it's not a new gold. age with blacks it seems to me to be misplaced what we're talking about isn't it tamed through the european eyes in the nation process and you know apparently contradictorily through the bricks that process for particular business is to grab power influence and money we could do a whole interviews about say the law being called food and pharmaceuticals and we
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could as long as we have the money for the for all the lawyers we need a give me but felt tower that tragedy became be able to magic of neoliberalism over the summer killing more than eighty people do you think it'll be may surround the grenfell inquiry into why eighty people more than eighty people have died well there will be people who are involved in relation to the choir trying to defend their interests of course the world and if we think that if we think that the people who are involved who are responsible for the info are going to sit back and say. yeah i'm guilty then you know let's let's remember what power does what it is this challenge sometimes isn't quite as can get to the truth and or get close to the truth we've seen some examples of that probably some day and quite sort of course the truth a lot of quite some time so but our society seems to be unable to take any practical measures to deal with the truth when those inquiries are finished professor david miller thank you after the break when ziggy played the key with one
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of the twentieth century greatest photographers terry o'neill told a simple coming up about two of going underground. what politicians do you ship to. put themselves on the line they did accept the role which it. sold you want to be present. in something. that you want to be this is what the people. can't be good. i'm interested always in the wires in my house.
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about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. your out caught up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry only i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath. but then my feelings started to change you talked about war like it was again still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our ark and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with death this one quite
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different i speak to you now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. thank you new to the game this is how it works now that the economy is built around corporations corporations run washington washington controls the media the media and over the voters elected businessman to run this country business equals power boom bust it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before.
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welcome back has morgan freeman declared war on russia we have been attacked we are. in a two minute video produced by the committee to investigate russia the academy award winning actor calls on u.s. president donald trump to come clean with the american people about de facto kremlin attempts to take over the world the russian government has suggested that freeman has been tricked into using his celebrity and did not have information about actual state affairs and what some people are suggesting is revamped mccarthyite propaganda of the nineteen fifties next guest is arguably more experience of west. nation celebrity culture than perhaps any other person alive terry o'neill has photographed a who's who of the twentieth century from laurence olivier to winston churchill to mamma dolly to kate moss his latest project is a book and exhibition called when ziggy played the marquee about the final concerts
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ziggy stardust or the late david bowie we caught up with him at london's run some gallery where iconic photos are just fate done away winning an oscar for satire on us television news and robert redford sitting together with nixon cia boss adorn the walls. i never had need lessons to be a patrol for i just picked it up i saw a star of chalk but never look back. i just show them how i see them you know that's the secret of my photography i think i show people how they really are. and there's nobody i want to shoot to be and so the whole world has changed and it almost seems they all seem fake you know all the politicians in their life actors playing a role. all the people i met my life they're all great every no. you know they never i just thought people.
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terry i thought david bowie retired ziggy stardust in june in the hammers with odio in london the marquis where he did see or somebody wanted to film it so they did one special show at the marquee club been in. and so he did it that was actually the last time he actually performed it because everyone knows that film romy rules were signed and this was the last what do you like or you read us one yeah well the manager which is shop manager he knew if he got good photographers around get some good results. meebo himself was a very interesting guy i mean i actually didn't like you singing because i'm a jazz man but. he used to move from world so wall you know it was interesting in that way and he was you really never changed the whole time when you have over
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forty fifty years he was the same gone in the beginning is he was it because you're . a frustrated jazz drummer yeah that's what you wanted to be yes that's right photography was a secondary thing yeah. he. crossed the no one and people crying coming in saying goodbye and all this record tossed up i'm not took a show of a guy in a pinstripe suit for want to sleep amongst a load of african chieftains and it turned out to be right but there are no reports of so many sent the film to a jury hoping like a tree yeah yes and they sent the picture to is. and then suddenly they said i love the work on the film i'd love you to come to be airport every saturday then i got taken on by the sketch which was a tabloid paper like opposition to the daily mirror and our member going up there
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on the first night it to said because not only been turny year at i didn't really know what was doing and who was using thirty five millimeter no no they weren't nobody was so how did you call it was the only camera i had this little gag for select camera it was a joke anyway when i got the pipe time so. i pictured said to me of taking you on he said you're a musician which i'm really interesting stuff in pop music is going to be big in the sixty's and we want someone young new can talk to them he said all of a photographer simply street. own own words there's nobody my door it's only twenty so i don't know what i'm doing he said don't worry i'll look after him he says he said first job she said to maurice i want to go down or abbey road photograph
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a group is a group down they called the bait was in there making a record called please please me so they sent me down there and i took this picture barry amateurish picture of the pre and you what you have to remember there were any groups before the sixty's this was the first so i just improvised whatever i thought about the studio in the backyard and had ringgold in the symbol on me it was a joke. and anyway the picture published in the phone rang the next day and it was andrew oldham from the stand saying on the stones manager would you like to photograph the brawling stones and do what you did for the plate was because to get pictures of pop groups in newspapers was lying heard of those days i mean just didn't happen anywhere i did them they did a double page spread on them and i was off and running and it was less managed obviously than these days were now it's
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a waste of time and there's nobody i want to photograph today in the way to be honest there's no i mean amy winehouse was the last one with any real talent and the way the frank sinatra's the mountains and sammy davis is are they would just disappear. i think is the why they were brought up and they are hard to work and things you know now go on x. factor and i have a you know it's a joke actually. well there's one amazing picture you took a rover redford on the sets of i think three days of the call and yell that it's a cia conspiracy movie he's with nixon's cia books richard helms well we used to tease me that you've was friendly with us richard helms and he said he's going to come down on the set one day mobile revenue generator and. you go to work it out years anyway. and. then you want to came to see him and it turned out to be this guy you know the long
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lens on that those words because i mean i didn't want to offend. it's very important the people the pictures i mean the paper or see a brood for togaf ok but this is richard helms a plan to assassinate fidel castro from as well the range the assassination of the city. but why if it was politics in the conservative home secretary that that made you know started you off by bit by accident did you do celebrity well i did the newspaper did i mean they said they wanted me to photograph police pop groups and only people coming up and so that's. actually what i started to learn about my great aunt who was eugene smith who was a great post to a journalist i used to shoot i came you know just natural eugene smith someone who was in good weather because mentally had mental health issues because he was the
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sort of focus yeah he was a. brilliant job that's the one who are you know because he always copy somebody trying to copy him you know so that's how the pain is so i got it out. style to doing personalities if you like your name is in maybe you don't know there's the alice to campbell's diaries going to relay as and sure and really they're planning the iraq war and they say on april twenty ninth two thousand and two. terry o'neill is here to take a peek at number ten downing street to take pictures. do you remember that as i'd shoot the queen and the. prime ministers who were still around at the time which was two minutes to shoot couple of pictures because really i didn't know i was in them must read that. but surely do they don't realise they've got terry
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neal to do the phone oh they're going to give him time to do would be queen around . the queen's style hugo thatcher photograph is clearly trying to humanize her well yeah exactly i needed to try to make it seem more family you know not that she was manly but she just needed to read each about four or five prime ministers in my time and had access to them and i still don't. you know there's no. great english politician but you know they you couldn't figure out why they. go where they go one of the most iconic images arguably of the twentieth century one of the greatest photographs is your photograph of your ex-wife you know. in the beverly hall royal yes. just tell me a little while i was shooting. people magazine and because they always
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did the one they thought was going to win and took a chance on the following weight and cheering this. you know week of what i spent with you know our city of god no i did for a picture because nobody really knows the real effect because when somebody wins the oscar winning the football pools but big time their money goes up from fifty thousand to five million and they get off their prescribed gallery and on scene the people the next day and they're in a store would you stay and i want to they capture that in the picture so explain what the picture was and said if you come down to. the beverly hills hotel because you take pictures on. six thirty and i'll set up this picture now i see it and you just sit in for
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a couple minutes on the shoot this picture you said all the newspapers and yeah and i was lucky because parts of the soaps french you know they game and oscar because he died everything so it worked out really well and that's become really famous hollywood picture now the difference who is in the film with regular cool network brilliant film satirizing the t.v. news industry never become more true than today you wrote that not to put. before the movie took him twenty years to get it made but amazed then the it's obviously united so i seem to predict the rise of the yes rope. don't trump as a man. we would like to photograph him well yes and no i don't really see kennedy now actually i actually shot kennedy by the neck we were all just
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photographed they photographed him yes. i wouldn't mind doing trumpet east no wouldn't be top of my list. you know. what can he do with me is who he is. you know you you know i'm far more interested in saying putin because i think putin is quite a politician you know. really clever man i would think so you know. to putin. thank you thank you. legendary photographer terry o'neill there his book when he played the boxing is out now and you can go and see his photos at the run some gallery in london or if you're in beverly hills is bowie photos will be on view at the gallery and that's it for this show with you on wednesday with the leader of what's new york's law just socialist party jeremy corbett outlined his vision for a radical britain with the u.k. labor party conference till then keep in touch by social media will see on
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wednesday fifty five years to the day revolutionaries overthrew king by the little bugger defiled the nation of yemen being bombed by u.k. by forces the king eventually led to the southeast of england where you guys are much. in case you're new to the game this is how. the economy is built around corporate corporations from washington to washington post media the media the voters elect the businessman to run this country business if. you must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before.
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reason why north korea is trying to develop the capability to. prevent japan and the united states from assisting south korea in case of contingencies because. the missile capability is capable of attacking japan and the united states north korea can say the americans and japanese and if you assist south korea we would do with nuclear weapons. which will make. those get a little bit cooler than. on you but i you. know both i'm through with it but i just sort of kind of it was a sign of distress for. dump on a handwritten note she refused.
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