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with the country evenly split is this a losing proposition. i'm actually times when going underground is today jeremy corbyn spells out the end of decades of neoliberalism in britain committing a labor government to renationalise u.k. housing energy water transport and communication systems to make them affordable and bring them back on the democratic control coming on the show but is it radical enough we ask arguably the most electorally successful politician in u.k. labor party history ken livingston whether corbin and his team may be selling out already plus combating cia back to blockbusters and the death of hollywood on the red carpet a raindance the u.k.'s largest independent film festival and we talked with j.k.
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simmons and director michelle schumacher about making their new film i'm not here outside of the hollywood system some headlines will review a puerto rican power blackouts a syrian civilian wipeouts taxi knock out all of the more coming up in today's going underground well just how radical is jeremy corbett odds on favorite to be the next leader of britain joining me now is arguably his body's previously most electorally successful individual in its history former mayor of london ken livingstone again thanks for coming on the show how radical is jeremy corbyn and his team he's a genuine centrist he's genuinely labor he came into politics to do things routinely people not to get rich will be a celebrity and so on and he. needs all this pressure for the last two years he's never given into it he's not going to betray the things he believes in because the daily mail streams you know about hang on shadow foreign secretary thornley denouncing the venezuelan government echoing i don't know the head of the cia. and
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see what that. actually going on. the simple fact he's jeremy is not right blair will brown where they controlled everything from the center and he generally has a genuine debate among the people around him that's why labor m.p.'s who were trying to get rid of him last year who will come on board vast majority of them this is the opposite by the way mainstream media narrative say and all the style that he's a genuine democrat he has around him and that's always been a significant feature of the real left hey you can't have someone behaving like a dictator imposing its will on a briefing and what that did with the blair brown is ok when you have the danger all of the shadow foreign secretary albeit saying look we want ethical foreign policy etc and you have to be a systems advertising all moments in the foyer of the labor conference in brighton and that's interesting given jeremy's denunciation of the you know to selling arms to saudi arabia and so on but you go beyond well i'm the labor m.p.'s of come on board be on jeremy german heritage or party machine stuff with playwrights and
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that's got to china say yes people organizing the conference will open up to some of the most important firms on the face of the planet that is sort of things we need to change the things of moved on so much arguably that i can accuse you of being a right wing labor better politician arguably what did you think of john mcdonnell shadow chancellor saying these p.f. ideals that was signed between private corporations and our civic democratic space all rolled on the absolutely great because if you look back now i mean the hospitals that twenty years ago but there's government funded by peer fine till we now know it's costing the taxpayers six times as much as if we just borrowed money and built them an army i had to cope with that partial privatization of the underground and that was to do some stuff we after just four years one of the two big firms was one point eight billion in day came to me and said we need you to underwrite the debt or we're going to go bankrupt now shall not give me
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a penny they went bankrupt reporting for a pound but the interesting thing is and that is what you're about. that's the interesting about this is it would be denounced as very left wing but there's another politician who's done this already some when he became man he offered the alpha and been involved in private on his ng the underground two hundred or three hundred one and now to give up the contract because he'd worked out it would be cheaper to buy them out and carry on being ripped off year by year we can expect shuttle to drop an old invite the foreign secretary boris johnson to advise and we have plans when he goes the data will be will be set up that this is a horrendous event we will lack in the c.b.i. complaining it's been growing at the state the simple thing is you look at the facts and probably state that the only thing you did oh i agree with i have to say . ok and of course one could say david cameron nationalize the banks didn't have any choice but what do you think about that when john mcdonald says he wants to open up dialogue with the multinationals i mean women of multinationals will be damned and that with government seeking wealth redistribution it's all over the
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world they've got governments in their pockets and after you've been in government you can get a nice place on their board and all of that but that's not what i mean we're going to they will i think i mean when i was me i had to deal with huge corporations from the girl who wanted to do things in london i always push them as hard as possible to get the best steel phenomenas. under blair and brown they just and a cam and they just rolled over into what corporations want so you've got to deal with them but you've got to make sure they pay their fair share what do you think about the c.b.i. also there in britain saying labor policies could send investors running for the hills the anyone listens to c.b.i. anymore we'd never achieve the levels of investment under the neo liberal agenda of hatcher and blair that we had in the good old days of the post-war atlee government and then the tories you count on that was the i mean the best year we had an actor investment was one hundred seventy three twenty percent of our g.d.p. now i think we're limping you know that wouldn't have been the c.b.i. from if it thinks a strong and intervening state and proper regulation will reduce investment when we
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had that in the past we had much better levels investment ok so we're not a developing nation than a multinational you know going to bump off the amount of corbin's team presumably but now they have understood the media bias against corbin's labor isn't working what are they going to do to them well the simple fact is if you're international corporation and jeremy holding comes the prime minister you go simple to us if we walk away news will profit we make in that country already sit down and deal with it and then sit down and deal with it they don't have a choice about this so that wagering organising less about rights and human rights generation focused on what we can do with a labor government in britain and actually getting across to people what do you know the great power we once were we still the fifth refused nation in the way. when the common government wanted forty billion force nuclear submarines no problem when they wanted twenty five billion for the don't you think the point nuclear reactor no problem so if we can find all that i mean we can find the money for the nurses and the teachers that we need to deal with the crisis that we've got in our
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public sector but just very briefly no one really talks about the attlee government forty five was involved in colonial exploitation around the world at the same time and bring it back we don't have the money coming back from the colonies to help fund the national health service these days any danger in a lack of unity in foreign policy purpose as well as. making the economy high tech and accountable that kind of how there was actually you know we have an empire the largest in human history and one hundred years but they straight away proceeded with the independence of india and pakistan set in place they knew you couldn't carry on with that sort of nonsense and then called actually in ninety one because churchill was going to block independence for india and so on so they were up and aware that the world had to change and no one's going to go back to that sort of nonsense you think your german going to win i want i've been saying that for two years i mean i wouldn't support you jeremy two years ago if i didn't think you could win i need
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a government that's going to do things for my kids i want to i'm going to be building council housing and things like creating better jobs i want my kids to grow up in a better world and germany can do that and the reason that. well joining me now to go do something with stories is will cost a former liberal democrat member of parliament then bit opaque how does it go we just heard from the former mayor of london ken livingstone tomorrow president meeting putin in ankara probably discuss the kurdish question you choose in this which is based on human rights watch reports about something i haven't really seen much of in the mainstream media yeah it looks like the media has got pretty bored of this but syria hasn't human rights watch says syria coalition airstrikes killed dozens. iraq and now let's get a sense of those out of isis terrorists no actually there may have been i sell terrorists involved all those people killed but it looks like at least eighty four civilians were killed as well thirty children there's massive what we call
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euphemistically collateral damage here even though there are really clear rules about war and engagement where you have to take extremely serious measures to prevent civilian casualties that might be in the area of involved in the but why do we not know anything about this because the western media has lost interest in this story this is happening continuously this particular story happens to be promoted by human rights watch i suggest to you that this is happening on a daily certainly a weekly basis but most of the time there's no one to report it and the world's moved on to other subjects and i'm sounding pretty militant myself about this but but we are killing civilians and this radicalize is the very people we're trying to stop from being radical the irony it's heartbreaking and fatal ok let's move on to the next story of desperation i should say was bringing the change of our as a brother next week fifty year anniversary of the assassination of his brother cuber puerto rico very different from their preparations for disasters but
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suffering the same fate to an extent the star comments the power is not out right across the border and they are american citizens let's take as well ok these this isn't a capitalist problem explain why parts of puerto rico nearing desperation as food water and fuel supplies begin to run out it's not capitalist problem because it was naked and doesn't cause climate change because we're going on there and are evolving anyway isn't trump doing the right thing tackling l f l players rather than the concerning himself with this small island of three million people here's what trump said my quote imprecisely texas and florida are doing great but puerto rico which is already suffering from broken infrastructure and massive debt is in deep trouble and. puerto rico billions of dollars to wall street the bank he suggesting that while the first world united states vive the hurrican without too much trouble puerto rico is a victim of that early start is the united states and they voted referendums to be
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part of the united states the situation as you said in a place which votes in the united states elections is desperate even though it's part of the usa for trump to say that the situation is worse in puerto rico because they are a lot of money to wall street isn't really making the point let's go to sort today's the day of the uber appeal at british court to say drivers workers who were saying we don't want people considered as workers but let's go to another george osborne the former child checkers newspaper that start with the headline from the evening standard after an evening standard comment removing his license is shutting out the future everybody i think in london knows by now and many people in the u.k. have noticed one of the biggest providers of private hire vehicles in london really g.m.b. says only three to four thousand workers well who was in forty thousand eight hundred forty thousand we can argue but as thousands either way and lots of people using it
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they've lost their license due to weak governments and all kinds of things which c.f.l. tonsil of london and the greater london authority simply don't like they say that it's a badly run company and it's been disrespectful to the rules but over half a million people have signed a petition saying this isn't acceptable ok and i don't they're not there probably not many will give up blackrock i know that they've all the jobs of the exchequer george osborne repeatedly getting six hundred fifty thousand have a black organ resident fund odin's a huge stake in the right how much is black rock the investment firm paying you to defend yeah i can say this absolutely nothing but i will tell you also i happen to know there are other companies who want to do this in my view with a degree of principle one of them is called tax if i and they are being a father these are available they are wait a minute well. it's true though they are waiting to see what happens here because the black cabbies who really haven't liked the whole novel that super bowls and in the fast pace are on the ascendancy with this case big question will it make it more expensive and hard as they get a cab in london we'll wait and see what the appeal says but this goes way beyond
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and how can you get taxis anyway what planet are you living on i've seen how you get home. after the break austerity in trouble the red carpet london's version of sundance raindance twenty seven jeans and showed up with oscar winning star of whiplash as well as spider-man the simpsons and. we speak to j.k. simmons at london's write downs festival headquarters about quantum mechanics and whether independent films have to be seen to make a difference. but through of going on the ground. one else seemed wrong. but i. just don't. get me. to seep out the attic. and it. equals betrayal.
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when something find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back on like emerging economies he is of big budget blockbusters remakes and sequels appear to be taking that toll of audience numbers for hollywood films not for more than a decade have fewer people want to go to the movies in the usa over the summer so he said deputy editor sebastian packer to the red carpet at raindance the u.k.'s largest independent film festival to ask where the big hollywood studios could be going so wrong. for twenty five years the u.k.'s largest independent film festival
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rain dogs has been premiering groundbreaking cinema all frequent in turn tino's pulp fiction to nicolas winding refn film pusha ball for freedom of information request the pentagon and the cia revealed the us government has been involved in the production of over eight hundred feature films including oil and man and even meet the parents went to the red carpet to all some of the stalls award winning artists and the founder of rain dolls about meet the parents and the importance of independence and cinema will meet the parents started as a low budget feature right once in one thousand nine hundred eighty four or five of whom philips which he sold it to hollywood. took another seven or eight years for it to get made and the film that we showed it rained adds years before the polished hollywood very project will tell you i did enjoy most of it was part grittier and funnier than the one that gone through all the put me or something and then washing
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machine it comes out and shrunk and the thing about independent cinema is that you make it on your own which is both painful and also very freeing because you're not restricted by the if you like the censorship of big money in big corporations which means that your films can be out there too it can be extremely extremely entertaining extreme topics that would normally not make it through the system if it's going to retain any value culturally and i think intellectually it has to kind of forster independent talent because it's not it's not going to come from any major blockbuster films because i sat with her there for that and i did make money and it's that's also and so entertaining and so if you want to and if you want to see something that's a little bit more outside the box are going to have to see a different value so that it is going to bring the senate it always has been here and that's when you look back there aren't many big words. conceived blockbusters
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did that kind of stick out and stick with you over time it's morse more often the more personal films in a traditionally done at least somewhat in an independent center is vital to feel frightened because this is where all the new ideas come form you know you see the ideas that you can see on the screen in this festival you're going to say to reiterate her by by hollywood in a few years' time because this is that this is the seed bed of invention i think independent film i think and that's partly because of the kind of people that want to get into a typical way you have to have a real passion to make a film that's going to get into a festival like this because all the things you go to overcome getting it financed getting the story written getting anxious attached to it is so much more difficult so these people are really motivated to make films but also a lot of because i think when you're working with shall we say small budgets maybe i should have a lot more freedom because you don't have the panoply of studio executives putting in a ten cents or telling their how i should think it should i get up with it the last
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filmmaking for my school is directed by committee and here you are actually looking at a fancy film like his voice or see him and seeing him on the screen up close so i think independent film is so it is vital to set up the festival like rain that's right nancy which is vital to filmmaking here in the u.k. but what's it like making films and donald trump's america and to raise a maze briston well i think yes i think he's just as bad but i think that he's also going to right now he's hit something in our culture that we have to address you know i don't i don't really know what to what to say. it's scary this most terrifying thing to me is that it is just can't believe that that's good so many people believe that it was the answer so i don't know if they believe that today as much as they did. and back in november but i don't know there's always there's a we just it highlighted a sort of cultural and social divide i think it's important for us to talk about i do think it's like the big she gets a bit sad and. i think poverty isn't always about money. it's also about the
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values that we have and so i do think. we kind of build from this winners and losers mentality and people are being written off is you know basically and now we're having to face the music otherwise this is why you see all these futuristic feel. everybody's you know deep down because you know we can't sustain this kind of operation. it's destroying anything to destroy and i had a wonderful woman who told me and called marianne williamson and she was saying that the reason why people say why didn't you write with the titanic is because that was an example of where they were and they will say we don't have to stay down there were all these ice say we got this huge big ship and they went to you and they crashed into the iceberg and they were going she said you know we can identify
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because there's a sense that that's what we do as a society we kind of are it and so we think that technology has to do everything that it does and it's not so i think we should look at these films are probably looking at it we're looking coming back to making it more central banks to me that we have which is not to do with money but that to do with what we came. back of there in the rain dance film festival red carpet every year rain dance plays host to a number of world premieres i'm not here from director michel schumacher is one of the latest to have its first screening at the festival it stars j.k. simmons the oscar winning character actor known for films like spider-man whiplash and the justice league he plays steve a reclusive hermit who having caught himself off from the world spends his days reflecting on the decisions in his life that led him to the point of suicide we met simmons and schumacher for the raindance headquarters to talk about the film and why it had to be made outside of the hollywood system. michelle j.k.
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thanks for. agreeing to talk to us in the rain dance off his ear and said drill london tell us about in these last year times in these hard times i get we visit this is a film about hope even though it's kind of a film about tragedy. what were we thinking when you wrote this was i thinking what i write this actually i was thinking. about that actually giving hope to people that it's to me i see it as a very life affirming film it's it's about choices that we all make in life some good choices some not so good choices and where that leads us but it's ultimately a film about. redemption and self forgiveness really you know we all make choices in life and they. they lead to different situations and circumstances but ultimately it's self forgiveness so you know that the world premiere you were saying this shows hope and there are different levels we take it you think that
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this is the protagonist decisions could have had a massive in food on the outcome of his life yeah absolutely and i think all those all those outcomes co-exist you know that's one of that's the sort of metaphysical aspect of that comes in that. you know it looks at which we're seeing a man and we're seeing his flashbacks you know and that's you know sort of the structure of it and the surface level of what's going on but maybe we're not maybe we're seeing you know alternative outcomes maybe time is not linear you know that whole thing in what is essentially a very simple story of regret and redemption you know where were there other levels you can examine if you're if you're much smarter than i continue i don't but he's talking about and the quantum physics aspect of it is that just that idea of infinite possibilities until you observe and then it collapses into
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one reality so if you. without giving anything away what we tried to do was. connect quantum physics with thought and thought processes and really creating your life and that kind of comes full circle back to what you're talking about. the world today and how is it how it is and i really truly believe that that fots are like ripple effects and they do have that not just words but but thoughts and behavior has a ripple effect so so if if everything is an infinite possibility until you observe let's it's let's pay attention right let's focus let's observe what we're doing what we're saying what we want and claps reality we want so the ending is is basically are our quantum physics sort of. or not that would be quite a page i mean pleasure all the metal wealth of it and obviously the publicists and the review is will be raking to emphasize right of the top of it j.k.
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you are in a film where you don't actually speak in the film and you appear to speak. well that's that's the inner monologue jumping out yeah i was it was a unique film for me and in that regard that my character who really occupies sort of a third of the film basically the same character is portrayed by sebastian stan as a twenty something. and then by you know arbitrageurs a six year old so so my third of the film there's i'm by myself and i don't get to use this this two of speaking so i just use the other tools that and you know try to create the script that michelle and tony wrote did you are asked michelle and tony for words at any point was like would go billy i can't be the guy who talks to himself all the time and cracking jokes and no i just say does never feels like you're not talking. that's actually a good point and that's that i love that you say that actually because one of the
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reasons that we didn't have him say anything is because a lot of times we are talked to when we are told what to think or we are told how to feel and so. it is such a great actor and he's. so he says. when you see him live his life and do ordinary things like get a bite to eat or you know brush his teeth we're able to. pull out of it what's going on in our own personal life at the time because we project on to him as opposed to the film projecting on to us really i mean i've heard such different comments from the movie you know oh it's about this it's about that and they're all very they're all different because i think it's with the audience member each individual comes in and gets out of film conscious that it was deliberately universal i mean there's the classlessness to it goes through three different decades but because you chose now cause them and other illnesses that are can
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affect any close you did that deliberately yeah absolutely deliberately yeah absolutely there's a i think a universe ality to it and and an ambiguity to it that leaves a lot of aspects of the movie sort of open to interpretation and. you know we haven't even gotten into the whole sort of. metaphysical aspect of the story which is you know beyond my pay grade the but there it's it's layered this is not a happy go he would film why do you think to make a film like this didn't get all the millions that the big studio way well we didn't we look at your drug no no waiting and try yeah no we because i want to just say what i wanted to say and i wanted to have the ultimate you know my vision and. work with the people i want to work with and have that freedom in not have deadlines or have test audiences or i wanted to be able to say what i wanted to say what tony
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and i wanted to say and and we pretty much achieved it oh it's ironic that i'm seeing it is a leg of the game of business graeme where a big blockbuster over that's the hugest called me. as kind of ironic you think if . if you had gone down the other part david made jake i have to speak. to him. i'm. no but it all seriousness i mean variety reporter the box office receipts are down from last. ten years they haven't been as bad as they are doing films like this will make the c.d.'s realize you know they're going to start thinking a bit more about filmmaking and how to make films well how to make interesting stories and yeah i mean it would be lovely not to have to choose between well i don't want to overemphasize that because you know i mean i've done you know films with more substantial budgets you know that are thoughtful and thought provoking
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and affecting films as well but there does seem to be kind of a chasm between you know the low budget induced like our film and the you know the big popcorn movies that. you know to continue to be made and sometimes you know are great films but but i think that middle ground is is what might be missing you know take a shot thank you thank you thanks. also to j.k. simmons and his wife the director michel schumacher there the rain dance film festival runs until the festival and that's if the show with you on saturday with a special program mocking the significance of today's speech by u.k. labor leader jeremy cool but we'll be right in the southeast for being with us again what a seismic shift in everything from high tech economy to foreign policy a labor government will mean the world will then you can just buy such a savage a seventy six yesterday that ukrainians you not see collaborate just mask it tens
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of thousands of ukrainian jews russians in rumor and think you. might survive. look stacey just like all the stores simply had all these are. you sure it's not there you don't see in the past. oh heck no good repatriations keep for the rest of seventy years. bill of the february march kaiser report. this then with the with me but i can no those get a little bit because while most of them are lying about how you. know both of you want it done but i guess some kind of sign of this yes or no but if you dump
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