is not telling you about how we're going to filter it through some satirical comedic lenses to make it more digestible that's what we do every week hard hitting radical comedy news like redacted tonight is where it's at. oh i'm tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture i saw a republican in action nine million children are in danger of losing their health insurance a popular federal health program expires tomorrow night this

a perfect example of why we need to scrap this match work system we have and replace it with medicare for all last brian darling and sam sex just a moment and h.h.s. secretary tom price has resigned from the trumpet ministration after his private jet scandal but don't celebrate just yet the swamp is still bubbling over with monsters more on that with holon cook the next host of this program the big picture later on in the program. conservatives supposedly hate freeloaders so why do they support right to work laws which literally legalize in fact require freeloading the test of big picture panel joining me now are brian darling contributor to conservative review and sam sax writer and co-founder of the district news cooperative thank you both for being here with it's great having you guys so our nation so.

republicans failed to repeal obamacare but they might still succeed in throwing the health care system into chaos even though it's been on the calendar for months congress has done nothing about the impending saturday deadline for reauthorizing the children's health insurance program or chip nine million kids depend on chip to get coverage with a deal unlikely senators expect funding to expire doesn't this just go to show why we need a true universal health care system like medicare for all as opposed to this patchwork . i think so yeah i mean let's talk about this this is i'm shocked this is a program the children's health insurance program which is vital to thirty six million people these are working class people that are struggling to afford health insurance and have had this program at their disposal since ninety nine and three republicans have supported it it was last reauthorized in two thousand and nine expanded to four million people this is an essential program and the fact that republicans have just allowed to expire it expires tomorrow they said

a markup on legislation to extend it next week after the expiration of this program speaks not just their heartless heartlessness but their incompetence as managers in congress to get anything done brian as a conservative i would think you know this this study that was published in the annals of internal medicine which is not a conservative publication if anything it's a are not a liberal publication of anything it's a conservative medical journal you know. said the single payer the united states would say five hundred four billion dollars a year just on bureaucracy because you've got so many different payers and so many different bases and with single payer it just you don't it's like that you know the analogy of the hospital in toronto that's the exact same size as albert einstein ospital in new york and the one in new york has an entire floor with hundreds of people out of a new building and though the entire hospital in toronto which has the same number of beds and everything has two people in one desk and one room that does all the billing well i think we have a lot of problems with our healthcare system one is the fact that you held insurance companies the health insurance companies are bad i agree with you i mean

they're the ones i've pushed for the government to mandate everybody buy their product i don't think that was a good idea i think that whenever you have a third payer system it's just takes away a lot of the responsibility that's involved it destroyed the free market even before obamacare we had almost fifty percent of the money in health care was government money so having more government money in the program i don't think it's going to lead to better outcomes it's not well first of all the government money doesn't do the outcome it's. paying the bills i mean when i was talking about layoffs and taking over you know my doctor's office because it's health care inflation and it also you concerned about people getting too much health care treatment to my medical treatment what i'm concerned about is and this is happening you know i've i went for a period of time where i didn't have any health insurance i got a bill unbelievable and the reason why many of the costs are so high and if you ever went to the hospital and in the health insurance are going to pay through the roof it's not because we don't have anything close to a free market we have no market forces because nobody ever sees a bill nobody ever sees with their wallets also because there's really only six or

seven you know i mean four or five major health insurance companies six or seven that basically serve the whole country which is functionally a monopoly i mean you know i don't disagree with that but if if we the people the government of the united states if we the people are paying the bills i would think that we the people would be negotiating some damn good prices on me real quick i mean i think that you'd have the similar situation just as much as you distrust the companies to run this program the corporate interest around this program i don't think the government will be inefficient allocating resources with health care services in the private market isn't either in the free market you speak of tends toward consolidation that's what we've seen as you said six or seven health insurers right now trump wants to do an executive order to allow insurance to be sold across state lines that's going to further consolidate to just a couple who are out in connecticut or wherever they're going to delaware are they going to have the lowest regulations on health insurance companies are going to set up shop there and then sell their garbage plan steady else in the country which is

mean this is that's what happens with happened with credit cards you know when when they allowed credit cards to be sold across state lines all of a sudden all the state banking regulators were you know rendered impotent functionally and all the credit card companies went to what north dakota or south dakota one of the other way they got the weakest laws in the world many of our nation's nine unelected monarchs on the supreme court are poised to deal yet another blow to. otherwise labor this week they agreed to hear the case of janice vs asked me which challenges an illinois law which requires public sector workers to pay what are known as agency fees agency fees are essentially a check against freeloading all workers who are any union shop after pay them even if they don't belong to the union to help cover the cost of the collective bargaining agreement that the union negotiates on their behalf it also helps cover the cost of the of the lawyers and things that the union will bring on your behalf if you are one of those nonunion employees in that shop the law requires the union

to provide these services but then the right to work for less laws say that workers don't have to pay for them i thought conservatives were against free money why are they trying to legalize it in illinois brown pulled it for freedom freedom not to be forced to join a union if you don't want to you're talking about the freedom in if i hired you as a lawyer or as a p.r. advisor or whatever and said brian please do this job and you went out did that job for me and then you can sue me and said i'd like to be paid and i said hey i'm giving your freedom you know you get the freedom to do all his work for me and i don't have to pay anything for it so he talked about seriously i would quit i mean i actually worked years ago for the civil service commission in massachusetts had some experience dealing with the unions and i think the public sector unions do a lot of good but there were a lot of problems of they had they didn't they wasted a lot of money contesting them when somebody got disciplined and there was a lot of ways that went on but i would just argue that the public sector unions obviously were

a lot of the obviously the union movement is predominantly in the public sector now it's growing the public as reaganism is killed off the private sector in that we're the only industrialized country in the world that has lost ten percent unionization i mean in most of europe it's over eighty percent in some countries it's over ninety percent well we have a pretty stagnant economies too i mean our economy is doing not great but a lot better than one of these these countries that have massive unionization of employees and you know become the go. the guise of a hard time are starting to might be higher but ours our standard of living i don't think is anywhere near as i mean buzz words like freedom are thrown around all the time they're pretty meaningless in this case unions people who are working in unions make more money they get better benefits they work in safer conditions all the time and to get those sort of things the union needs funding this is an effort by republicans to deny unions across the country funding they've already done it to private sector unions which are below ten percent the last bastion of organized labor is now in the public sector where you have about

a third of public sector workers unionized if you can get this these last strike down these user fees are freeloader for the laws that's going to be end of the public sector unions they're not going to be able to have any financing mechanism making what scott walker did in wisconsin yeah and this is that this actually could have happened a few years ago this is antonin scalia haunting again this case when it was friedrichs versus california teachers association came before the supreme court was going to be defeated but in school had died now we've got corsets on the court who is likely going to vote the same way that's clear would have voted in and which is not going to be a good thing and just for the record something that is almost never mentioned in the media is that people workers in union states on average earned six thousand dollars a year more than workers in so-called right to work for less states so i mean it's just this that's money that's going to working people instead of going to shareholders or sixty years which is why you have the chamber of commerce and the koch brothers and all these people lobbying behind these these are donald trump's

attacks on the n.f.l. police brutality protests and ironically there he never describes them as that which is kind of said are having a trickle down effect for example thirty four high schools around louisiana are now requiring their football players to stand during the national anthem or face suspension how does this kind of knuckle dragging mean jerk nationalism have any role in a democratic republic i don't think it has any role at all i mean obviously if you're still. didn't you you wave certainly hudson when you go to school and things like that which is unfortunate but if this is happening in other countries if north korea the state is demanding people stand for certain things in china few people today in the newspaper today it was reported that china has criminalized disrespecting the national anthem exactly fifteen days in prison so we don't usually consider ourselves in the same sort of league forcing these nationalistic displays and demanding people participate or end up in jail as dissenters are and this is not nationalism as opposed to patriotism this is this is the level same

johnson said it was the last refuge of scoundrels i think it's a little boat than i i very much enjoy going to a sporting event and hearing the star-spangled banner and i stand for it i put my hand right over my heart proudly i think that collin kaplan it made it clear that he was protesting the flag and he said in his eyes protesting police violence and he said he was protesting is the opposite of what he said you have. actually does not say what he said he's changed his story a couple times but the bottom line is he is somebody who denounced called donald trump a racist he denounced hillary clinton well somebody you know he denounced hillary clinton for many of the things she said. before she ran the campaign about african-americans i mean he's somebody who you know more power to him for doing what he did but ultimately i don't feel bad for him not being in the n.f.l. anymore and i think a lot of sports fans are upset about it and you know he has

a freedom to do that but the teams have the freedom but if the n.f.l. is going to take seven or eight million dollars a year from the department of defense in order to whip us up into a patriotic frenzy like they do in north korea. but i shouldn't should don't you love the national anthem and what it stands for i mean there was it was still didn't have the national media players didn't come out for the national anthem until two thousand and nine so the n.f.l. has been a long. a long time the flag was fine before two thousand and nine as an artist my problems in the national anthem have to do with how hard it is to sing in that the third verse celebrates the murder of slave slaves but that's in dispute i don't think the history of that is necessarily true but i'm not saying do away with the national anthem what i'm saying mike my complaint as it were is that both trump and the press are not pointing out the capper nick was and that all of the all these protests are against police killings of young black now none none of the n.f.l. owners want that to be known to you when they were out there in solidarity and none

of them higher calling copperhead he doesn't have a job and get out of their way to change the subject and say oh it was well pitcher it was not anyway brian sam have your say. i could take in the i would go beat up is puerto rico donald trump's katrina i'll ask alan cook the next host of this program right after the break. all the field we go. everywhere in the world. and you'll get it on the old the old. the old according to jesse. come along for the ride.

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a guy feel welcome but to tell you the truth i'll miss seeing you well thank you i will still listen but we've known each other for years we were brothers in the talk radio family indeed and so but you know you and i know each other but our viewers don't tell tell people a little bit about yourself i have my who is this guy well for twenty two years since i hung up my shingle i've been trudging the fruited plain. working with people who do what you do and working for stations a talk radio consultant and increasingly at the intersection of radio and the internet which is where a lot of this consumption happens now and always wanted to do what you do meaning a show like this and to do it the way you do it because what is haunting talk radio now is the sheer loudness and anger of it. dick cavett did a project with him years ago and he played back to me

a conversation he had when he was young and jack paar whispered in his ear isa's don't do interviews make it a conversation and that's what you've done here it's very thoughtful and you're a very curious guy i love the rumble where you have two people in who are contras and say tell me i'm wrong tell me i'm wrong so what i hope to do inheriting the show is be a good listener and you set the bar high letting me inherit the big picture brand because i think we spent too much time bumping into trees and we missed the. forest so i hope that your followers your viewers will sense that fill your big shoes that would pretty much wear the same size i come down where you do on most issues and i'm eager to hear from people who don't and don't be afraid to give them hell to say so. tom price and today another

friday another four pm bombshell yeah it's getting pretty darn routine isn't it and how could he survive this had to be an embarrassment to what trump. the low went for him to have the hubris to say fifty two thousand dollars for a million dollars with that hardly covers fuel and it's another chance for trump to deflect this guy uses twitter to say look here not there and we've learned to watch the other hand because he's generally trying to distract and after the health care fiasco and everything else and course minucci and with the government playing for the honeymoon i think it was time for him to throw someone under the bus and price was begging for ryan zinke he has got a seventy five thousand dollars plane bill flying out to montana or whatever a bunch of time what we saw this week with the rick pitino story is not dissimilar scrutiny is everywhere now you know you're not going to get away with anything

anymore. but the thing that is the we're going to tom price the thing that amazes me or horrifies me frankly is that all of this coverage has been about the fact that he burned three million dollars in airfare ok well you know i get it that's that's kind of an outrage and it reminds me of senator proxmire we're both old enough to remember certain words but at the same time he's doing that he cut hundreds of millions of dollars out of the budget you know h.h.s. is one and i think it's one to have trillion dollar budget deal on one point two trillion dollars and. and he cut money from the centers for disease control for research on stopping infectious tuberculosis which is some would argue one of the greatest threats the world faces right now because we can now have multi drug resistant tb sure there's no cure for it he cut money from the hiv prevention programs he cut money from the national cancer society he cut money from the national institutes of health for research into basic research into new categories

and families of drugs this is stuff drug companies don't do they spent it on airplanes apparently except i mean he cut literally hundreds of millions of dollars and that's not being discussed and that makes me crazy well that's why i'm glad to be here there's no commercials there's nobody's toes to step on and i like the thoughtful and detailed approach that i see on the various shows on our t.v. so i feel less constrained here than i might one of the networks you know you don't you're not it's i agree in san juan puerto rico is mary has slammed the trump administration his description of hurricane maria as a good news story to check out this clip this is not a story this is a people are dying story this isn't life or death story this is there are so truckload of style that cannot be taken to people's story.

this is a disaster and you know people say it's a cliche but if this this could be worse than katrina for troy it's never going to be the same there and some good could come of this is already talk about the new grid will be a green grid because we've seen the weakness in the old tech grid so some good will come of this but not before a lot of pain and these people are americans and look at the political ripples that are going to come from this since the hurricanes in louisiana louisiana has gotten redder and texas has gotten bluer because of the migration out these are americans who can move to florida and how do you think they're going to vote in the thinnest margin of any of the flip states you know one of the conspiracy theories or whatever speculations foreign around the internet web site is that the reason one of the reasons why the government is flying refugees out of out of puerto rico and

into florida but holding their passport rather. seriously keeping their passports in exchange for you know full fare on the plane which tom price apparently. is is that they want to make sure that these people go home because they don't want to stay in florida and big and then flip florida into a blue state and this whole sound bite today about a great news story this is pure trump you know every single word matters now because it bounces around the echo chamber and i flashback to the terrible gulf oil spill and the chairman of b.p. saying hey i want to go home to the trump says these things that just don't play telling the french president's wife you're really in great shape you know it's pure trump saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. agree the tax trumps tax plan. can't call. because there is no legislation yet you haven't even

begun writing nine pages of folate point so that's that's right and probably about six hundred lobbyists have been watching all the gucci shoes going up and down for street and street all day long. but but trump himself according to the new york times would save one point one billion dollars from repealing the estate tax would save a million dollars from the repeal of the ultimate alternative minimum tax which according to his two thousand and five return was the only tax it paid basically sixteen million from cutting the corporate tax rate and five hundred thousand dollars in slashing the highest marginal tax rate so trump comes out he says i'm going to be hurt by this this isn't going to be good for me the a radically i think why he's scared to death of robert muller is that we're going to find out he's broke i've been saying that all along in fact i think he might be deeply under our net worth is arguably higher than his but assuming what you just said i think that there's a lot that could be done i think it's worth taking

a look at raising the standard deduction for folks at the low end the alternative minimum tax is always been a pretzel it's worth looking at that stuff but how naive can we be to think that much is going to change if you printed out the tax code it'd be taller than you standing on my shoulders and every single word that's in there was bought and paid for you know in the rich guys know how to play the game and this is not tax reform they're not talking about going through the tax code and strip and all that stuff they're talking about just you know consolidating some brackets dropping the top rate from thirty nine percent down to thirty five percent raising the bottom rate from to ten percent to twelve percent so you know low income people are going to pay more wealthy people will pay less and they're there magically calling it tax reform when there's a lot of sound bite appeal in repatriating the money that's offshore where is it going to go when it comes back onshore grabbed the armrests for another wave of

mergers. and consolidation and layoffs as a result yeah they just going to buy each other stock and oh and we know this because back in two thousand and one it was it five i think i forget which year was that george w. bush did a tax holiday patriot sure and you know one hundred one hundred billion plus came back into the country and over ninety percent of it was used for share buybacks sure if you can just you know retire a bunch of stock then the value of the stock goes up the stock market goes up the executives who are getting paid through stock options goes up you know the whole thing so history is not kind to a widening gulf between the haves and have nots this is how havoc starts and. i predict not much will change i hope the standard deduction on the stuff for the little guys can get a good look but i don't think it's going to be a sea change when all is said and done. do you actually think we're going to be able to pass this i have

a feeling you're probably going to devolve into chaos well he's getting a lot of guff on the right now so we'll see. but a lot of these guys are up for election this nine hundred percent in the house yeah and if you look at the red state democrats who are up you know they're endangered but these republicans can't live with a full pa going into it so we'll see what happens but i don't predict it's going to be an awful lot on taxes just because the powerful interests know how to play the game the minute the main thing that made me think that this is going to happen was today it wasn't paul ryan but it was one of the house members in leadership came out and basically said the senate is screwing with us you know the senate isn't going to make things happen the you know we can't get stuff done because of the senate when guys in the house start complaining about the you know guys in the house still have to go and that's the swap yeah. it's the deflected the lame the

whole blame game and and so. when you think we'll know by. not soon not soon this this is a drain the swamp was a lot of fun on the campaign trail but this is less a issue than a symptom brookie mistake they tried health care first should have done infrastructure a good. great to have you with us and good luck with the program thank you oct six seven pm it's going to be a weekend show to start but i got big shoes to fill and i appreciate you passing me the baton thank you and before we go tonight i just want to say thank you to my crew my staff to free speech t.v. and especially to everyone here at r.t. having complete editorial control over a t.v. show syndicated internationally into more than seven hundred million dollars was a great and frankly a rare opportunity we worked on this program very hard not to do sports or soap opera when covering politics but instead to focus on issues and i believe we accomplished a lot in that regard we're grateful to our team for the opportunity and for fat for

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