all things considered i'm peter all about again this network r t is in the spotlight and under attack now the russian authorities are pushing back what is called the info wars is heating up should in the news consumer be allowed to decide . cross talking real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark slobodan he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt he is a political analyst with sputnik international and in london we crossed to adam garri he is a writer for the duran dot com or a german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate adam let me go to you first in london i think over the last few days of the first time the the russian authorities are beginning to push back on attacks on our t.v. and sputnik meaning if you read in between the lines that if you mess with r.t. and sputnik while western media in russia can expect the same kind of treatment and i think the network c.n.n.

was brought up it's about time i'm not surprised but it's really a real tragedy that. western media and the political elite want to go down this rabbit hole because like i said in my introduction and i'm more concerned with the news consumer not the ones who determine what people can see in read and click on go ahead adam. well they're exercising a nineteen fifties mccarthyite attitude in an age where the old drunk senator wouldn't of had the kind of reach which he did in the fifty's and even that by the late fifty's was increasing the limited we live in an age where the world is at the think the tips of a phone of a computer of a multitude of electronic devices and so the really barking up the wrong tree by harassing or t. and if they take that step which will not cut off access of americans toward t. but if they take the step of using the corporate industrial complex to kick out of

the united states well b.b.c. c.n.n. and c.b.s. all these all the alphabet soups that are in moscow right now well that road does indeed go both ways keeping with the macaw of the analogy it really has come full circle in the nineteenth the communists were everywhere and they were going to get you nothing happened in the eighty's it was heavy metal music and prints records which were going to poison the you know that america obviously nothing now it's russia i kid you there were congressional hearings in the 1980's about how also your support and prince were a danger to national security so when you look at the various threats that mainstream american politicians and media go for whenever they don't want to take responsibility for the own economic mismanagement well it's a strange list and i guarantee you in fifteen years' time we'll look at this russia gate thing a bit like the heavy metal gate which maybe we'll look at fifteen years from now if we have an open media which i have my doubts right now you know mark it goes back

to this fundamental assumption and over the last year or so which is given r.t. a lot of notoriety i must admit and thank you for that. for the people doing this against us but you know you can't have it both ways you can't be miniscule unknown . ups and then you have to be you know double zero seven i mean there's a schizo schizophrenia view of russian media in the united states in the u.k. it's either all powerful or it's marginal but they seem to want to have a both with the same tone or that. that going to either extreme depending on which propaganda narrative you are pushing about russia whether it's a failing country with dying population a no economy or it's an all powerful super villain controlling what americans think because of russian links facebook ads brand totaling one hundred fifty thousand dollars when hillary clinton spent one point two billion dollars on her election

campaign it shows the falsity of the argument that this gap demonstrates that there is no reasonable rational dialogue conducting this going on in the united states right now and i would like to personally highlight one article by c.n.n. this week it was a c.n.n. exclusive fake black divest accounts linked to the russian government. to the russian government black to this right black to block of this so the actual evidence that they had was the twitter account blocked of this provided several clues that in hindsight indicate that it was not what it purported to be in several tweets it evidenced awkward phrasing that a native english speaker would be unlikely to use it also consistently. not

using an apostrophe facing the wrong way. it's instead of it ok now i don't know i wasn't american academia i can tell you just how you literate people are these days ok. i know a lot of russians and poles. better the native speakers are going to speak for everyone on facebook and this guy over here or over twitter no. absolute perfect grammar of as dick shit all the iris and bull activists those guys a real grammar nazi look at you know if you are one of the one of the things that is so nonsensical to me ok marc brought up twitter and i want to introduce facebook into it as well is that somehow. maniacal forces related to the russian government or state or individuals who are close to russia or you know all these little things here that they could actually use black lives matter and racial strife agree

to frighten and put in a couple hundred thousand dollars and they could actually flip the united states and complete chaos you know. we all unfortunately have to go through this crucifixion of watching the american presidential cycle and we know you can't avoid it in our line of business but to tell me that an outside source of force was was stirring up the pot there it was pretty stirred up ok so i cannot imagine how any other and even if force could do it it would be mass observe on the money would be very very obvious and then you have you have senators saying to twitter and facebook go back and look go back and look i did find it ok but this is absurd the main crime that these russia connected blacktip is did they attract that. control like trump not to like the fact that people from their national football league remember. black people mishandled by the police while

all of them eric and media has been talking no nothing more seventy four exactly oxygen and a source that besides the russia russia russia story and let me remind you of that all the american media said that the times when he would clinton ran against obama they have been saying that hillary clinton is a division came to that so. the democrats. are going to career a divisive this for thirty years these seduction is going to divide society why do they accuse the rush of trying to divide society to their credit already been divided by the american media because a lot of their other arguments and fail absolutely peter has mentioned the very important thing you know this is the first time that the russian government is trying to push back and i think this is an important moment the russian government has been trying to not to quarrel with the west but to call the it here not to leave it along for so many years the russian government supported study each during the action in serbia of course pro-west them the russian government even now

sometimes people say that it was not that was very and for our show we're trying to kind of you know engage them but the words of peas meant at the idea of are and. about the moment of truth. you know when united states is trying to declare our t. and sputnik foreign agents that is the moment of truth if the russian government gets it the goal with you know they are shooting actually at it let me go back to you in london what i find remarkable here it so obvious at the same time is if you're going to look for foreign agents influencing or trying to capture and used to advantage facebook and twitter why don't we look at a lot of other countries that like to influence elections in the u.k. in the united states and all around the world not a peep about that we're going to ok we could do the list is very a mom like the brags that. this is so long but if you look at the media right no

twenty four seven is only one country might be one country potentially one country potentially some people but when it's glaring that there are so many other influences influencing domestic politics in the u.k. and the united states but not a word about it go ahead out of. well i think there's two reasons for that first of all there's not really much of a russian law be in the united states russia has this weird idea that it can use various media outlets to let people whether in u.s. u.k. france catalonia spain tell it the way they see it where other countries israel being one example spends millions on law being efforts and of course they're not spending that money for nothing who would i think the second reason goes back further and it's a psychological phenomenon again going back to the one nine hundred eighty s. i recall a russian film made about the united states

a dog you meant tree which touched on the seeds at the end of the day in the west didn't it talked about the racial injustice inherent in the justice system it talked about homelessness it talked about the gap between pay and the price of general commodities up to housing talked about these very important which hinted at what george called and said that the reason they call it the american dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it and rather than address that is seen on the way that russia address oh neo liberal nightmare in the late ninety's and early two thousand head on the solution has been to put the head in the sand everything's ok the flag is wonderful everyone stand even if you've. not address the issues this scapegoating it using russia mark last forty seconds in this block here is there anything wrong inherently wrong with our t. and sputnik advertising itself on facebook and twitter like everyone else yes there

is because while every other media organization does the same thing takes out. advertising promoting its own articles it's completely different when russia does it because russia russia russia russia russia russia. just i mean was this for you what are tweeters these are rumors you know when the people who vote or almost when the mainstream media feels that if you can get through why more official information then you go and listen to your sickly when people know it is propaganda what they're getting from gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we have to go to a hard break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on real news stay with us.

about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last abang turn. to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each other. but then my feelings started to change you talked about war like it was again still some more fun to feel those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with this one. i speak to you now because there are no other takers. claimed that mainstream media has met its maker.

with more makers manufacture consent to step into public wealth. when the ruling classes project themselves. the family larry you're a liberal certainly the one percent. during the middle of the room six. chose seemed wrong. just don't. let me. get to shape out just because the ticket and engagement equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. chance to look for common ground the.

economic development is all about numbers really. this quarter we are six point zero. but what do we know about the other figures. that are see. over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart. with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. is that just how a free market works. people went from pretty simple financial lives. to the point now where people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly divided society. the part of the

government tried to do. it might be making things worse. by saying this is not work this is. hopelessly disastrously wrong. welcome back to crossfire or all things considered we're discussing some real news . ok let me go back to diem one of the things i find interesting over the last i guess now it's starting into thirteen months where and where enough job or not finding any evidence that they want to find they're looking for something usually when you there's an investigation there is a crime and they want to find out how it happened and who was involved we have something completely turned upside down here they're hoping to look for some kind of problem here but the longer they look the deeper they look they find their own corruption in the deep state in the media itself in the political establishment

well that. and it's quite open i mean talking about elections remember how obama came to britain right before the bridge at fault and how it all advocated for the state was great remains what now. family you know. wife cheryl openly said that she would be thrilled if hillary clinton was elected president can you imagine what would happen if they said the opposite. no any alternative upside down let me go to adam on this here out what it what what what would be the reaction if a circle bergs wife's head said that she would be thrilled if donald trump would be elected ok i think there would have been a storm you know what i mean that i'm in london go ahead or if the brits of all. yes well we're going to go ahead. well we would come face to face with the wonderful standards the popes and these are of course double standards were people

who fit in the agenda or allowed free speech to comment on events no matter where they happen but those who don't fit the agenda of creating hate speech as though hate which is just a strong version of dislike for those in c.n.n. by and who might not be familiar it's perfectly legal of violence is illegal and breaking one's own laws including the first amendment is illegal but these very basic concepts are being lost in this kind of war where the a nightmare i think what will be interesting to watch is how the western mainstream media handles an election that's going to take play a place in march of next year and that's a russian presidential will they be fair about the process will they give interviews with real russians as opposed to someone straight out of a lunatic asylum in new york with the soviet passport from one nine hundred seventy five go on into maybe maybe i have been i don't know i have an idea here out of maybe we should try to convince our t.

to hire bernie sanders to come and comment on. elections are stolen or not stolen and his personal experience here mark this the same the same question to you the more they dig into this they more they really show how hollow and hypocritical that they are if you look at how they cover stories here i mean we know about collusion and we have to remind our viewers who she is not illegal ok unfortunately whilst year or so the word is is turned into something different i mean to collude but to use your platform that you say is neutral then it's more than collusion ok first let me reply to adam there we know there is a presidential election coming up in russia because twitter is see the cia at cia is advertising on twitter they believe in russian speakers and they need russian speaking experts they don't have any. you know what they're looking for for

all i know and you know this number of people would love the u.s. but you know dubai market just to answer that i think you bring up a really good point and it was it was something that you know because i'm older than you guys here i mean i was when i went to universities undergraduate there was soviet studies there was criminology there was tons and tons of cia and dio money for it and you know and then when the cold war came to an end there were no longer any russia specialists or some. gentlemen and women that are quite elderly right now than some of them really know this country very well but they don't get access because they don't have the right opinion this is one of the things that's really quite remarkable the cia is looking for people that speak russian and a lot of small correction here the russian election is going to be in march two thousand and nineteen so the fact that she is already interested in russian speakers indicates that these guys are prepared well in advance you know like you did in ukraine what is interesting is that they keep talking about trolls who right or wrong russian articles in the american press they invent this to be.

well that ought to get out where russians are supposedly influencing american and polish and they would gary in media that must be a linguistic paradise you care of their people write an excellent forty ish check hungary and a large tree and. it's unbelievable how many foreign speakers wherever you go holy god the truth is there are people in europe and people in the united states. government they don't trust their mainstream media that's why they are right angry quantum's there are chanology of course in the media but you know they just refuse to notice it and that what you said about corruption well there is corruption in the media and we have seen it when they are russians or why the american election via facebook. groups in the us you know it's amazing what you can buy. up there in court just that the commander of u.s. forces in europe said that brushing is an equal opponent for us in eastern europe

after this thousand seventeen exercises the problem is that according to a stock or institute for peace research russia's defense spending is twenty seven percent of the defense spending over nato as european allies we just call the united states here so mr korb just is acknowledging it will crush us using their defense money at least seventeen times better than the western us of. russia spends on defense is less than what the defense increase for the. you know and. the word distrust here in the things that i think is a really growing issue i think it's vastly important here is to break the book and google these are very dangerous monopolies we've seen monopolies broken up in the past and it's time to do it now more than ever because this is an information monopoly and that's why people most likely are watching this program because we don't get along to play along ok i think this is an issue that is so important it is not getting enough air time is hardly any in the west right now go ahead and i'm

in london it's. probably the single most most important with dealing with the web and dealing with social media these companies ought to be closed in the same way as a classic telephone company so you've got your eighteen t.'s and pac bells and all of these things they don't police the content if you're having an argument with a spouse if you're trying to order a pizza and they didn't put the right flavor on it they're not policing those conversations they're making sure that the line is clear and that it's not being sold to you for an inflated price those regulations are in place for telecom they should be in place on all social media providers and all search engine providers who have a user ship over a certain level they should be told that their job is to facilitate the technical and logistical ends of the communication but they're not there to censor the north of the press and they're not the remote in respect to any particular ideology

whether it's a save the whales or save the calf of those you'll save anything else and this is what needs to happen it's related to and it can also be related to various i've seen seals and don't get me wrong i do not like big government and i don't want the government telling people what they can and cannot say but we need some concerned citizen in the public sector to say hold on this commission between the private sector and the public sector it's a corporatocracy it needs to and it's destroying the first american way and ok well first of all there of course is data mining of our telecommunications conversations they are listening to what we're saying and when you say enough words you get picked up by enough. you get to a real person second of all i think that this discussion of nationalizing our making. public utility does

every country have their own face. book and twitter then that is isolated after we balkanize the internet it seems to me that that is exactly where the united states government wants to go with facebook and twitter they want to take control of it so that they are really because they already do it here and reading these releases from they're already in collusion here and well i would put it in a little more general way you know the reason why the ultra liberal the globalist will rule is because it is tended to become a monopoly what did in the corners when russia was a monopoly you know we remember one television channel two or three radio channels that system collapsed in the same way it will look at what's going on if someone openly in science you know it's a monopoly in the media it is slowly becoming a monopoly in a corner me where you have a few big companies basically control in the market that's why this system is doomed to collapse and us media and the social networks is just one

expression of one particular example of monopoly which is characteristic of this new terry and i do or would you or you know liberalism. because of the all pervasiveness of these men are police here it's good to be politically since they have a very strong liberal orientation it's going to be very hard for politicians in the western world to get to galvanize themselves like they did against. u.s. steel eighteen t. it's different this time go ahead. i think it's going to take a kind of ross perot character someone who comes from a business background but also understands that small business is as suppressed by big business as it is by big government and the small this business of war is one man talking to another man about their opinions the free speech business and we have this corporatocracy which is slamming these people and this is an. the reason

they're afraid of board they can ban people's facebook accounts over nothing they can be the eight people you can have people saying that you should lose your job for saying something on twitter but they can't get rid of all the tea because it's international and this international dialogue that's becoming increasingly broad china is joining the dialogue iran is joining it other countries in europe other countries in southeast asia they can't shut down the global donna though and because of this fear that they have of alternative opinions they are working like crazy ok let me jump in here talking among american and let me jump in here thirty seconds barking at the last word yeah i think the most important thing we've seen this last week is a moving of the goalposts we went from russian hacking that has completely collapsed the department of homeland security put out a completely fallacious report this week that has been the bunk by the states that they claim they were hacked the own states california wisconsin and others have

said no we weren't so now we've moved to influence peddling it russia wasn't trying to help when it was just trying to sow discord in american society because there isn't enough discord people are taking both sides of the issue on their own on that point and that's an excellent point run out of time here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on d.c. the next time and remember crosstalk rules. it's taken these children's hopes. now threatens to take their future. the volcano could erupt again at any time. most

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