erland who has foreign secretary arguably said there was a british money to burn to give ak of or to al qaeda linked rebels in syria it's no secret that we would like to be able to extend our strike operations into syria and this was a chance low suggested a new cold war with russia russia. ignores the norms of international conduct and breaks the rules of the rules based international system and that represents a challenge and a threat to all of us it was hamman to support of the lords of an economic war against nuclear armed russia are accusing the largest nation on earth of being uncivilized civilized nations do not behave in the way russia under putin has behaved towards ukraine and those of us who live by the rules based international system will be steadfast in defending it against such aggression this from the then foreign secretary who supported u.k. training of saudi pilots to drop bombs in the persian gulf to threaten tens of

millions i know that some of them are being used to yemen that doesn't make them that doesn't fall foul of the export licensing criteria it would be hypocritical to think that we could have a large defense industry exporting weapons systems and they never get used meanwhile as hammond speaks today as chancellor international or whether it be austerity here in britain or what he did as u.k. foreign secretary will be largely absent in the analysis on mainstream media that alone what the united nations had to say about his backing for the saudis sarah disappearing there are words the hartleys are tech on civilians and an outrageous a violation of international humanitarian law well just like in labor brighton arms companies will be in attendance at this week's tory conference in manchester but it won't be yemen being discussed as much as critical bricks it talks with brussels joining me is chair of the welsh affairs committee and conservative member.

parliament for moment in wales david davis david thanks for coming back on going underground so what's the atmosphere going to be like in man just a given you are the largest party again after the general election but there are demonstrations all around the city a man just of this week. well the lead demonstrations because the hard left are at the last two don't like the fact that democracy means they don't always win you know i've been fighting elections food twenty five years or so you win some you lose seventy two separate sets the weather the people i've won and lost referendums as well but there are some people out there who don't accept that you have a kind of frankly fascistic view that. they are right and everyone the majority is wrong that if the majority are doing what they want and no use force to try to have their way it is a pity that cd figures in the labor party don't seem willing to disassociate themselves without albeit that the hard left some of whom support your position on bricks it because of the need for national sovereignty is tourism

a going to water down the vote the clear vote for break given the other european countries or the voted to leave the european union have managed to betray their people were you certainly right the term that in other countries where there have been referendums how that has come out against the european union governments have tried to ignore the voices of their own electorate that's not going to happen with us. we have said we're going to leave the beat you need and we're going to do so i would be quite happy frankly to leave tomorrow without making any further payments since traded up the rules but i also realize the pragmatists that a significant minority have their concerns about leaving the union and the government to bend over backwards to provide reassurances to remain as to business that's why we've got this two year transition period that's why we said that we're willing to make payments. at the end of the day it's up now to the rest of the european union to decide whether or not they want to play ball with this and accept

that with the hand of friendship or whether they still want to try to punish us for having the temerity to say we do not want to be part of their political project but you know that some of those people are mantras just singing oh jeremy corbyn know that corbin. has been you're a skeptic all his life your prime minister during all may voted to reality yet the fact they are already here is i'm not sure they do realize that you are quite right he has been he has been much more euro skeptic than three zermatt many people in the conservative party but i don't know that i accept the premise of the questions i do the supporters realize that i think that they think that he is actually all for staying in secret what i perceive very cold we would do is to try to find any way he could get the government splitting the conservative vote so from that point of view see it's very unpredictable what the labor party might do but it's interesting that the only rebellions we've seen so far on the e.u. withdrawal or bill have been labor m.p.'s are badly because they're they're saying

that constituents want gregs and that they're going to follow what their constituents and what the majority of people in the country want so i think that's quite a hopeful sign arguably that rebellion there was the henry v. eight clause about sovereignty itself that's over to the british parliament well arguably but i think it shows that there's a there's a feeling there months later backbenchers that actually whatever their leadership say whatever whatever mixed message they're giving out about bricks they're going to be they bring peace useful for exit and who understand that that's what their voters voted for the niger for years on this program saying the drizzle may selling the whole thing out and is in all could basically do what goldman sachs want not what the british people wanted when they voted for breaks. no sorry simplistic look the british people voted out they didn't vote for harper accident or stop threats are there any particular kind of threats that they gave a very clear mandate to the government to find its own way out now it's nobody's ever pretended it was going to be entirely straightforward to do it we could of course of just said the day after the referendum result that we were going to leave

unless it there would be any further payments and that we would immediately go to debbie t.-o. rules now that would have caused uncertainty amongst the business community and it would have caused concern amongst those who voted to stay so we're recognizing that we're listening to those last moment we need to resume didn't even invoke w d o rules when donald trump decided to put the tariffs on bombarding well why did he need to respond with a trade war of a boeing do you think constrains him a understands w t o o of course he is we all understand the rules mean that any country could trade with any other country that your countries quote are few and that they will pay terrorists which average about ten percent or with a significantly more for some goods services agriculture ones with which will pose some challenges for the why didn't you go to about the donald trump plan because they're apparently around sixteen thousand boeing jobs here in britain is it the four thousand jobs in northern ireland or more muddy that are more important

because you know although you won the election as you say you bung. a billion pounds at least alone look we make sample source things here first of all the bogus you is going to arise whatever it's got nothing to do really don't understand why to say that there is something between what's come up with vote whether we'd voted in or out we would have been facing this particular problem which is the american saying that the canada and britain of subsidize their competitors unfairly that they're invoking there except for the big two year rules to call for i think to a good fifty percent tariff from on these places it's got absolutely nothing to do with bracks it is quite a complicated matter but it doesn't appear in terrorism a conference being the prime minister has been well of course the. trees amazed quite rightly standing up for these pretty strong suit with body and what else would you do see doing exactly the right thing but let's not mix that with rex it's got nothing to do press it no matter what the result of the referendum had been we wouldn't be facing this particular if we will face other issues like the future is nothing to do with threats at all while your namesake who is overseeing

a break to tear is i'm sure your you'd say dragons hardest to get a good deal for britain not only is he losing civil servants resume as chief of stuff is usually being felt about allegedly sitting on fire reports and graham for he tweeted the before that referendum proud that my hometown of the great city which is poor it is part rejected the politics of hate and division and he's a core member of the number ten team does he understand the political sovereignty that directive is about and not about hate well i can't comment on that i mean it sounds ridiculous to me to be very careful about what they put out to twitter this has nothing to do with senate phobia wrong or grace nothing whatsoever it was about it was about getting out of this new project that will lead to a federal european state at some point and all the same people by the way you are telling us we should say we're the same ones who say ten or fifteen years ago we should all join the year it was sort of a disaster that speed no we didn't join the euro note not even the little debt was

i think talk that sort of year and now i think given you know you could be back here in another ten years time we'll look back on this now be pretending they will vote campaign to sleep because it become obvious that britain is going to be a huge success you need of course will continue to trade and buy goods from the europeans we buy a lot more than that from that and they sell to us and they want to continue sending us goods and i know from a recent visit i made to germany how very keen they are to in short we continue to buy up their cars in the m.e.p. daniel hannan the queues in e.u. officials already a time wasting that is they deserve to be a shorter time scale here well they have to realise that we we talk about a transition period now but if they're not willing now. to accept the hand of friendship then we'll be out of that we don't do that so we shouldn't be afraid of this i mean if i walked into a car showroom tomorrow to buy a new car and i'd sit around the dinner and i said this night i really need desperately need a car and i'm not going to leave i'm going to leave your servant tell you give me a car now please give me a good deal they're going to be loveless socks off because they know that we you

know they're going to make a lot of money out of a customer you're going to be a bit say to people in any negotiation situation i've got to deal with this in your interests and mine if you don't give me that deal i'm going to walk away and i'll take my business elsewhere you know case we walk away and we can trade a deputy oh terms we were already more competitive than we were because of the fall and about it and if the european union want to go to a system a terrace with an average temp said well that means their seats stand to benefit from that because we're importing more from them than their export that we're exporting back to them so we will actually make more money on the tariffs and maybe that's in addition to the fact that the fall in the value of the pound yes it's made on holidays a bit more expensive but it's made a manufactured goods a lot cheaper on the continent david davies thank you have an interesting conference after the break is the labor ten feet inclusive or too crowded we speak to britain's shabba chief secretary to the treasury to about working with big

business is one of the same time protecting the most vulnerable in society and should then livingston be allowed back we are still member of the u.k. labor party national executive committee whether alleged sham accusations of anti semitism will no longer mean suspension from western europe's just socialist party all this more coming up in part two i'm going underground. in case you're new to the game this is how it works mark the economy is built around quite recent preparations from washington. washington post media the media over the voters elected the businessman to run this country business equals power boom bust it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before.

in the us a child can choose an army course in school. with a telephoto physicist teaches we don't. recruit we'll sisters if the cadet is interested in going in the military but we don't recruit ourselves and see. the pentagon is funding a program to boost interest in the military among two you know just your talents to step up to an apollo so that melts away quite comfortable with yourself and things you are yourself you can't go wrong in the woods or it's a great stepping stone for whatever career you want to do but some veterans are willing to tell enthusiastic children a little more they ask me call of duty is a very popular first year video game. it's play and that's because the military like call of duty to turn off call of duty oh yeah or you can turn off or lot of

these kids just don't hear. the darker side does the pentagon allow them to be told or does it just need more recruits. economic development is all about numbers really pleased to report this quarter we earn one hundred six point. but what do we know about the other figures. when i think about the fact that our c.e.o. mike du made over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart a says c.n.n. with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. is not just how a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now where people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and there are. and debt and what exactly devalued society did

the protests of the government try to do. my commission six were. saying this is not how capitalism works this is. hopelessly disastrously wrong. welcome back british mainstream media and pro iraq war labor m.p.'s are having a hard time understanding german cool bins commitment to end alleged public private partnership exploitation of the taxpayer all p.f. i in brighton in the southeast of england we are the u.k.'s shadow chief secretary to the treasury peter dowd to explain. thanks for coming to our makeshift studio outside the conference hall just a boy get on there what's happening i mean happening all week what about the threat to jobs in the north of ireland over the decision on tariffs for body a product well it is

a real shame and it's quite shocking because there was talk of. a free trade deal looks like now you can keep it and what we've got to do is the prime minister's call to this you've got to get on the phone straight away to donald trump and ask him what he's playing obvious they don't trump is famous for acting on impulse you can't complain that the government and all of the breaks of negotiators in the government didn't know of this announcement before it was made that well they may well have known about it but it's a question about what they're going to do about it obviously there's an immediate fear of the impact on jobs for those workers right now but i understand that. your team here have been talking about a rejigging of the entire economy because some would say why would you want to protect companies like body a anyway. investments in the economy. and the virtuous cycle of growth arising from the job of

a. but on the other hand you hear the shadow foreign secretary and we go marie talking about the need for no double standards even more extremely as it were for ethical foreign policy than robin cook and yet you have to be a systems. now under attack for its involvement in yemen exhibits in kind of defacto sponsoring you'll go well i'm not sure it's a fair assessment of what the labor party do prepared to talk to anybody and anybody about anything as long as it's in the interests of the country and jobs and invest in the bar here at the grand hotel and maybe three in the morning they were looking pretty glum mindful of giving too much away to these lobbyists for the big multinational companies no i don't think it's a case of thought what it's a case officer we set out an all manifesto a whole range of issues from education through to health through to employment through to the environment and we set aside spending commitments at this stage of

fourteen point six billion pounds and how we would raise that's where into that's where pushing taking care of the people who are the most wonderful so this is a it is a it's a it's a big tent it's an inclusive tent and we told to to anybody but what we have to do is look after the most vulnerable as well but if you are the french government being here to keep railways private they are always the only huge chunk of the train service from london to brighton here you are going to like your plans for bringing it back into the democratic control but it's not a question of whether they like it or not what we've made a decision to do is ask the franchises in relation to come trucks come up they will come back into public ownership now that might take a little while given the nature of the franchise regime but that's just the way it is ok with every shadow cabinet minister the guy was on this show until john mcdonnell made a speech here at the conference as adi mentioned p.f. i wouldn't when we've talked about it on this program now you. have why does it

seem like you're trying to solve the north's over how to pay for it if presumably you think we have means it's going to be good for the exchequer well i don't think it's a question thomas of the northeast it's in a whole range of sectors it's in the n.h.s. it's in local government it's right it's in fire service it's right across the spectrum bottom line is the bulk of those pay if i contract will be brought back i'm at the end of the day whether we pay for them through pay a very expensively pay for the most cheaply through the taxpayer the taxpayer still has to pay for them these companies are obviously on the foot sea that are involved in the p.f.a. in the there you have loans and bonds of corporate bonds with the city of london the head of the c.b.i. said of the plan that it's going to send business investment in this country running for the hills what do you think he means and you think he doesn't quite understand well i don't know why he would say that why why is it is not the case

this is an economy the best part of two trillion pounds we seriously saying but particular element of it is going to send investors running for the hills two twenty pound economy with the figures we're talking about is going to somehow we are ruining our position in the world economy no i don't accept that and you see it saving a lot of money because of people may not be aware even that the hospitals have to rent. their properties from private land holders and schools as well will it be saving well they're going to look certainly will it certainly will save money and what we'll be doing is setting out clearly and unambiguously how much we believe it will say over the coming months in the coming years but were satisfied on the assessment that we've done of it now that it will save substantial amounts of money to jericho if we don't basically mention the all agog code press in this country in particular the daily mail but it's been in the business pages that labor's been attacked recently cries of shock. as it were this is this is theft but i don't

think it is theft theft is when you take something off somebody and don't move away with the assets or the property without some form of compensation and that's not going to happen not so little countries in western europe already have these policies so it's hardly sort of new in that sense it's hardly radical ironic or emblematic that you're having a conference in one of the city's most affected in the country by homelessness well i think that's shocking and i think that jeremy coleman actually writes not it as an issue and homelessness is or has doubled in the last seven years and labor again i've got. a plan to build significant amount of houses over the next five ten years during our terms of palm and so we will be tough enough and we will be free of growth local authorities to do just that has been such centralization in the country over so many years to local authorities in regions just wait for

westminster to tell them what to do or want to counter that we're going to free their own coleman appeared to be saying the media propaganda against you it just isn't working anymore but on the other hand what would you say to somebody actually you know being radical enough and that in itself is symptomatic of a fear you have of the way the media cover the labor party my view is labor to set out its plan in its manifesto and it resonated and a lot of thought was generally called in such a common sense that you know well i don't think i don't think it's almost like the first off a football match we went into that with a male no drawl so to speak and we're going to come out of on the winning side get it out thank you thank you britain's shadow chief secretary to the treasury peter dow this speaking to me in bright blue also there was claudia webb only national executive all of western europe's largest socialist party was she who has been chairing debates on whether jeremy corbin and his allies are facing a rear guard action by old blairites and probably rock war m.p.'s on jumped up

accusations. of the semitism labeled by some as a new mccarthyism gloria thanks for being on going underground again illinois the brighton sea front newspaper is one of them which is mentioned by jeremy goldberg in his speech saying it's a it's a day of disaster i think all of the e.u. a chairing a session of this conference how did you see. that clearly wasn't the case i mean i'm i'm not sure if they will want to have the conference but we will celebrate in mood this was a party in complete almost unity really and a behind the vision and behind a very clear leader that is to live through it and to stay with the agenda and take them as world live the people constituency labor brunches around the country getting strange letters from anonymous units telling this is spend the door telling them about their membership i would use the state of democracy when before i got elected to the national executive committee of the labor party this time roughly

this time last year i do know that was the first phase in trying to ensure that jamie had the support that he needed at the top of the party to lead the party in the direction and vision that he sets out and it was important therefore that we got some element of of of of control of the leadership of the party in terms of the national executive committee in the run up to that we had to leave the ship contest as part of those needed. eleven thousand people were suspended part of us coming on board was to look at that to look at whether that was fair and just immediately in those first months of taking on the any national executive committee we were able to solve that eleven thousand simply because they were not just one valid suspensions we were then able to do it down further and. what was happening with

the suspension for you is a slow process will exist in the slow process but that's why it was in paul to jeremy to have a look at the full structures of the parties to get to the right now i mean for that out of the party because of the will we at least different lives with we're down to one hundred not thousands we're down to under the terms of those few couple of hundred that looks up by what we call the national constitutional committee the national cause the chief school committee looks to close cases that are a little bit more difficult to be able to decide on in order never again limousine will be back to melissa electorally successful in the last you know as we know it with natural causes with with you already know that kind of instance in case and that was already decided upon the issue about ten minutes and was already decided he's in the east no longer bevin the national meeting they already met as you will

recall that decision has already been measured means or another four knew that decision was already made that he wouldn't be if you recall so the what we're talking about is those couple of hundred cases with a bit more complicated which require more involvement than require the national constitution committee to look in greater detail we also of course had the election for the conference grangemouth committee now you would be one of the things that you wouldn't think that members would get so excited by the obscure or. what is that was the reason for that because they were deliberately trying to undermine germany. the reality is is we've got a huge membership tipping of the membership just six hundred thousand not the treating place in membership means we have to have a different party that reflects and looks like the membership to me is the sound and not the membership that we like the country that we seek to represent.

therefore we need a move to grant his view of the policy and the structures in every aspect usually such of the right one of the past was that this was the financial report one when it was allocated to discussed in the financial report nobody in previous conferences would put up their hand and say that they want to discuss the finance report at this year's conference we've had many hands go up because it's a rich body get lots of calls we have members that are saying they want to greater say in how the policy is run they want to know how it works they want to know who's making those decisions just very briefly what was your reaction to the fact that the soldiers on the streets of cities in britain after the recent atrocities. about gun violence in the previous lives that were the idea of arming will be the streets of britain with millions you know the one when we had the army on the

streets of britain it was because we had steve was a. terrorist atrocities when you when you look at what happened in manchester so long to him. either shortage of police one of them is a soldier to be number one and number two you know you know politically leave this told me government invested in the army's. top public service. this includes the police on the day of it is not fit for responding to these sort of terrorist attacks they do with a good job with the minimum resources that they have but when you have this the this game of terrorism that we are in touch terrorism that we at the web people who go into a mosque and seem simply seeking to pray and when people are simply seeking to go out and enjoy themselves as they did in manchester meeting and in london and simply people going about their daily business i'm going you know given the level of it.

all the tox was atrocious and we needed a response that was fit for that moment and to that extent it was proper and right to target. extra resources in the form of the army on our streets but that hopefully was a talking to the rather than a every day regular approach to policing that shouldn't be an every day break with for. i believe the reproach to police is to work with communities to build relationships to win trust and confidence and that is what every day when needs to be how we shouldn't be a random stop to gun approach. alienates particular communities. even in a way that doesn't bring people together and the things we need to build a nation i'm not stopping it in order to build a relationship in a meaningful way they knew that you told. us a team in order to do that work

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