walk the route. the so the poem also prompted criticism from the director of the human rights group burma campaign u.k. there is a sensitivity about british colonialism and it is something that people in burma still resentful about british colonial times were seen as a humiliation and an insult but this is far from being if you're british you'll know all about this the first time that johnson's landed himself in hot water for extremely insensitive remarks at the time when he wrote a rhyme about the president of turkey had sexual relations with goats you also referred to papua new guinea's quote cannibals and chief killers and he was referencing barack obama as part kenyan we spoke with the u.k. labor party salmond shaheen who thinks that the british foreign secretary has a bright future in stand up comedy. it's absolutely an embarrassment for britain as

a whole i think that's exactly why the british ambassador picked him up on this and said look you can't do this culturally insensitive i wonder if boris johnson really thinks of tall when he does these things i would tell him to close his mouth for the time being and then promptly forge a career as a stand up comedian i'm sure he'd be brilliant but he is not a brilliant foreign secretary these rapidly i mean he's cultivated this image of himself as this bumbling before balancing from here to there and spouting whatever is on his mind and. that might be fine for someone who's appearing as a panelist on have i got news for you it might even of work to the mayor of london as someone who's seen as this sort of teflon coated clown but for a man who is representing britain on the world stage i think it's it showing both

him and his party to be in a very poor light. thanks so much for staying with us you're watching r t international latest news headlines and in-depth analysis coming your way at the top of the hour.

hello and welcome to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter all about again this network r t is in the spotlight and under attack now the russian authorities are pushing back what is called the in for wars is heating up should in the news consumers be allowed to decide. cross talking real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark slobodan he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst with sputnik international and in london we crossed to adam garri he is a writer for the duran dot com or a german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and

i always appreciate adam let me go to you first in london i think over the last few days of the first time the the the russian authorities are beginning to push back on attacks on our t.v. and sputnik meaning if you read in between the lines that if you mess with r.t. and sputnik while western media in russia can expect the same kind of treatment and i think the network c.n.n. was brought up it's about time i'm not surprised but it's really a real tragedy that. western media and the political elite want to go down this rabbit hole because like i said in my introduction and i'm more concerned with the news consumer not the ones who determine what people can see in read and click on go ahead out of. well they're exercising a nine hundred fifty s. because the i've added in an age where the old drug senator wouldn't have had the kind of reach which she did in the fifty's and even that by the late fifty's was increasing the then we did we live in an age where the world is

a. the thing good tips of a phone of a computer of a multitude of electronic devices and so they're really barking up the wrong tree by harassing or t. and if they take that step which will not cut off access of americans toward t. but if they take the step of using the corporate industrial complex to get out of the united states well b.b.c. c.n.n. and c.b.s. all these all the alphabet soups that are in moscow right now well the road does indeed go both ways keeping with the macaw of the analogy it really has come full circle in the nineteenth the communists were everywhere and they were going to get you nothing happened in the eighty's it was heavy metal music and prints records which were going to poison the youth of america obviously nothing now it's russia i kid you there were congressional hearings in the 1980's about how also your support and prince were a danger to national security so when you look at the various threats that

mainstream american politicians and media go for whenever they don't want to take responsibility oh and economic. and i get to you in fifteen years we'll look at the thing a bit like a heavy metal gate maybe we'll look at it if we have an open media which i have my doubts right now you know market go back and do this in a fundamental assumption and over the last year or so which has given r.t. a lot of notoriety i must admit and thank you for that. for the people doing this against us but you can't have it both ways you can't be miniscule unknown keystone cops and then you have to be you know double zero seven i mean there's a schizo schizophrenia do you of russian media in the united states in the u.k. it's either all powerful or it's marginal but they seem to want to have it both at the same time or that. that going to either extreme depend. on

which propaganda narrative you are pushing about russia whether it's a failing country with a dying population a no economy or it's an all powerful super villain controlling what americans think because of russian links facebook ads brand totaling one hundred fifty thousand dollars when hillary clinton spent one point two billion dollars on her election campaign it shows the falsity of the argument that this gap demonstrates that there is no reasonable rational dialogue conducting this going on in the united states right now and i would like to personally highlight one article by c.n.n. this week it was a c.n.n. exclusive fake black divest accounts linked to the russian government. to the russian government black to visit black to block of this so the actual evidence that they had was the twitter account blacked of this provided several

clues that in hindsight indicate that it was not what it purported to be in several tweets it evidenced awkward phrasing that a native english speaker would be unlikely to use it also consistently. not using an apostrophe facing the wrong way. it's instead of it ok ok now i know i wasn't american academia i can tell you just how it literate people are these days ok i. know a lot of russians and poles. write english better than native speakers are going to speak for everyone on facebook and this guy over here or over twitter that i know uses absolute perfect grammar of as dick shit all the iris and bull activists those guys a real grammar not one of the one of the things that is so nonsensical to me ok mark

brought up twitter so you know i want to introduce facebook into it as well is that somehow. maniacal forces related to the russian government or state or individuals who are close to russia you know all these little things here that they could actually use black lives matter and racial strife agree to frighten and put in a couple hundred thousand dollars and they could actually flip the united states and complete chaos you know. we all unfortunately have to go through this crucifixion of watching the american presidential cycle and we are you can't avoid it in our line of business but to tell me that an outside source of force was was stirring up the pot there it was pretty stirred up ok so i cannot imagine how any other and even if force could do it it would be massive amount of money it would be very very obvious and then you have you have senators saying to twitter and facebook go back and look go back and look i did find it ok but this is absurd but the main crime

that these russia connected blacktip is did they attract that. control like trump not to like the fact that people from their national football league remember. black people. handle by the police while all of them eric and media has been talking no nothing more seventy point. the oxygen absolutely besides the russia russia russia story and let me remind you of that all the american media said back in the times when he would clinton ran against obama they have been saying that hillary clinton is a division candidate so the democrats. are going to career advice of this with these years these seduction is going to divide society why do they accuse the russia of trying to divide their credibility by that but. peter has mentioned that. this is the first that the russian government is trying

to pull back and i think this is an important moment the russian government has been trying to not to quarrel with the west but to call the it here not to long for so many years the russian government supported study each during their action in serbia of course pro-west them they're actually going to even now sometimes people say that it was not that was very and for our show we're trying to kind of you know engage them but the word is appeasement at least to different objects. but the normans of troops. you know where it's a strike to declare r t and sport. gets that is the moment of truth if the russian government. and i don't let me go back to you in london what i thought it remarkable here it so obvious at the same time is if you're going to

look for foreign agents influencing or trying to capture and used to advantage facebook and twitter why don't we look at a lot of other countries that like to influence elections in the u.k. in the united states and all around the world not a peep about that. we're going to ok we could do the list is very caring that brags that. this is so long but if you look at the media right now twenty four seven is the only one country might be one country potentially one country potentially some people but when it's glaring that there are so many other influences influencing domestic politics in the u.k. and the united states but not a word about it go ahead out of. well i think there's two reasons for that first of all there's not really much of a russian law be in the united states russia has this weird idea that it can use various media outlets to let people whether in u.s. u.k. from. catalonia spain tell it the way they see it where other countries israel

being one example spends millions on lobbying efforts and of course they're not spending that money for nothing who would i think the second reason goes back further and it's a psychological phenomenon again going back to the one nine hundred eighty s. i recall a russian film made about the united states a dog you meant tree which touched on the seeds at the end of the day in the what's . the injustice in parenting the justice system. is it talked about the gap between pay and price general commodities to housing it talked about these very important which hinted at what george called and said that the reason they call it the american dream is because you have to. get on. in the late ninety's and early two thousand the solution is to put the head in the

sand everything's ok here's one for every one stand and if you've. not addressed the scapegoating it music russia mark last forty seconds in this block here is there anything wrong inherently wrong with. sputnik advertising itself on facebook and twitter like everyone else does yes there is because while every other media organisation does the same thing takes out. advertising promoting its own articles it's completely different when russia does it because russia russia russia russia russia russia ok. well. i mean what is what are these. you know one hundred people. when the mainstream media feels that if you're gonna get information then you. particularly when people know. it's propaganda that they're getting from gentlemen

let me jump in here we have to go to a hard break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on bill noosed stay with us. with lawmakers manufacture consent to step up to the public well. when they're running closest to protect themselves. when the final larry go round certainly the one. doing the middle of the room six. million more you leave the room. in case you're new to the game this is how it works not the economy is built around corporate

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crossfire for all things considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let me go back to diem one of the things i find interesting over the last i guess now is searching in to thirteen months we're in we're in october not finding any evidence that they want to find they're looking for something usually when you there's an investigation there is a crime and they want to find out how it happened and who was involved we have something completely turned upside down here they're hoping to look for some kind of crime here but the longer they look the deeper they look they find their own corruption in the deep state in the media itself in the political establishment well that corruption is quite open i mean talking about elections remember how obama came to britain right before the bridge at fault and how he or advocate that fought for that state was right remains but now. you know. why sheryl openly said that she would be three or if hillary clinton was elected

president can you imagine what would happen if they said the opposite. no i mean alternative upside down let me go to adam on this here out at what what what what would be the reaction if so berg's wife's head said that she would be thrilled if donald trump would be elected ok i think there would have been a storm or you know during you know. me madam in london go ahead or if the brits of all that. yes well we accept your head. well we would come face to face with the wonderful standards of the popes and these are of course double standards were people who fit in the agenda or allowed free speech in iran about to comment on events no matter where they happen but those who don't fit the agenda of creating hate speech as though hate which is just a strong version of dislike for those in c.n.n. by and who might not be familiar is perfectly legal of violence is illegal and

breaking one's own laws including the first amendment is illegal but these very basic concepts are being lost in this kind of orwellian nightmare i think what will be interesting to watch is how the western mainstream media handles an election that's going to take place place in march of next year and that's a russian presidential run will they be fair about the process they give interviews with real russians as opposed to someone straight out of a lunatic asylum in new york with a soviet postponed for nine hundred seventy five. maybe maybe i do but i don't know i have an idea here out of maybe we should try to convince our t. to hire bernie sanders to come in comment on how elections are stolen or not stolen in his personal experience here mark this same the same question to you the more they dig into this they more they really show how hollow and hypocritical that they are if you look at all the cover stories here i mean we know about pollution and we

have to remind our viewers who she is not illegal ok unfortunately whilst year or so the word is is turned into something different i mean to collude but to use your platform that you say is neutral then it's more than collusion ok mark first reply to adam there we know there is a presidential election coming. up in russia because twitter is added or see the cia at cia is advertising on twitter they believe in russian speakers and they need russian speaking experts they don't have any so we know what they're looking for i know and you know the number of people who love the u.s. but you know diplomatist to answer that i think you bring up a really good point and it was it was something that you know because i'm older than you guys here i mean i was when i went to universities undergraduate there was soviet studies there was criminology there was tons and tons of cia and dio dio de money for and you know and then when the cold war. russia special.

gentlemen and women that are quite elderly right now than some really know this country very well. because. this is one of the really quite remarkable. and small correction here the russian election is going to be in march two thousand and nineteen still of the fact that it's already interested in the russian speakers indicates that these guys are prepared well in advance you know like we did in ukraine what is interesting is that they keep talking about russian boards and trolls who right or wrong russian articles in the american french board expressed they invented this view of well that where russians are supposedly influencing american and polish and they would gary in media that must be a linguistic paradise you kind of the people will write an excellent forty ish check hungary and a large tree and. it's unbelievable how many foreign speakers we're going to go

holy god this is the truth is there are people in europe and people in the united states and north korea with their government they don't trust their mainstream media that's why they write angry quantum's russian articles in the media but you know they just refuse to notice it and that what you said about corruption well there is corruption in the media and we have seen it when they use the russians or by the american election via facebook. groups or what's you know it's amazing what you can buy four thousand dollars and up them for just that the commander of u.s. forces in europe said that dry she's an equal opponent for us in eastern europe after this west two thousand and seventeen exercises the problem is that according to a stock or easter to a four piece research russia's defense spending is twenty seven percent of the defense spending over nato as european allies we discard the united states here so mr of course is acknowledging it with russians are using their defense money at least seventeen times better than the western us of their. russia spends on

defenses. it's less than what the defense increase for the. you know i don't. use the word distrust here and in one of the things that i think is a really growing issue i think it's vastly important here is to break up facebook and google these are very dangerous monopolies we've seen monopolies broken up in the past and it's time to do it now more than ever because this is an information monopoly and that's why people most likely are watching this program because we don't get along to play along ok i think this is an issue that is so important it is not getting enough air time is hardly any in the west right now go ahead and i'm in london it's probably the single most most important with dealing with the web and dealing with social media these companies ought to be classed in the same way as a classic telephone company so you've got your eighteen t.'s and pac bells and all of these things they don't police the content if you're having an argument with

a spouse if you're trying to order a pizza and they didn't put the right flavor on it they're not policing those conversations they're making sure that the line is clear and that it's not being sold to you for an inflated price those regulations are in place for telecom they should be in place on all social media providers and all search engine providers who have a user ship over a certain level they should be told that their job is to facilitate the technical and the just a call ends of the communication but they're not there to censor they're not of the press and they're not the promote in respect of any particular ideology whether it's a save the whales or save the calf and those humans say anything else and this is what they did and. they. don't get me wrong i do not like the government the government telling people what they can and cannot say but we need some concerned citizen in the public sector to say hold on this.

between the private sector and the public sector it's a corporate talk it needs to and it's destroying the first american the way and good ok well first of all there of course is data mining of our telecommunications conversations they are listening to what we're saying and when you say enough words you get kicked up by and. you get to a person second of all i think the discussion of national law making. public utility does every country have their own facebook and twitter then that is isolated off do we balkanize the internet it seems to me that that is exactly where the united states government wants to go with facebook and twitter they want to take control of it so that they are really kind of they already do their ability reading these releases from we look at

they're already in collusion you know well i would put it in a little more general way you know the reason why the ultra liberal the globalist. because it is. what did. you know we remember how we. collapsed. and you know. it's slowly becoming a monopoly in economy but you have a big company it's basically controlling the market that's why this system is doomed to collapse and media you know and the social networks is just one expression of one particular example. which is characteristic. of the police here it's going.

to. go. i think it's going to take. someone who comes. in is suppressed by this as it is by government. which is. this is another reason they're afraid. and people's facebook accounts over nothing they can be the people you can have people saying that you should lose your job for saying something on twitter but they can't get rid of tea because it's international and this international dialogue is becoming

increasingly broad china is joining the dialogue iran is joining other countries in europe other countries in southeast asia they can shut down the global dialogue and because of this fear that they have of alternative. the pinions they are working like crazy ok with me jump in here and talk to see among american and let me jump in here thirty seconds barking at the last word yeah i think the most important thing we've seen this last week is a moving of the goalposts we went from russian hacking that has completely collapsed the department of homeland security put out a completely fallacious right court this week that has been the bunk by the states that they claim they were hacked the own states california wisconsin and others have said no we weren't so now we've moved to influence peddling it russia wasn't trying to help when it was just trying to sow discord in american society because there isn't enough discord people are taking both sides of the issue on their own on that point and that's an excellent point run out of time here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here

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