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injured more than five hundred and as more than likely traumatized every person who witnessed the attack those who have seen the videos from it and the people left behind and it would be easy for us to simply label the act and the perpetrator as able to move on with our days and forget what happened that's the thing about designating evil it makes it easier for us to handle the idea that a human being could do this to another human being but it also clouds the reality of what anger for any reason can make a person do but we can't just ignore what happened or brush it off as a supernatural force or a simple issue of policy while we have what we have to do as honor the memories of the victims hope each other through these troubled times and start watching the hawks. want to. get the. real that would. last a lot of. what it looks like you are going.
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to. hear this. week such. welcome everybody watching the hot sun tabitha wallace and joining me from las vegas is r t correspondent natasha sweet. hello tampa natasha people from what you know all over no go ahead go ahead go ahead. just going to tell you you know all over town you can see support for the victims or even those who were slain on sunday and as for the victims the the people who actually survived this you know they're speaking out and they're sharing their stories of the psychological and physical scars.
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concert goers were running for cover as the shots ring out because you're used over going to make it like he's not shooting with you know up or you hide like he has an automatic rifle make those shots don't stop you don't hear that it's like being in a word. i've never heard of. of five hundred people getting in given shopping for other than the civil war i mean i know it's probably the greatest tragedy in american history now i mean other than nine eleven matthew edwards of san diego was visiting vegas for a week of fun but was absolutely devastated when he found out exactly what happened at the jason aldean concert sunday night his friend went and was luckily a survivor yess she was there at the concert she was crawling on of the bleaches bleachers and she got a couple stitches last night she was at sunrise. and we were there for a couple hours and it's just been is it's been
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a terrible day people are mourning the loss of the fifty nine victims who tragically lost their lives too soon as you can see people are coming together praying for unity hotels all along the strip are showing their support offering prayers to the victims and their families i was afraid i have two kids at home so i just kept thinking late we just need to get on to our kids in you know. you expect to ever be in that situation like you don't prepare for it. you just you just spite or fight edwards says it's all about understanding we all come from the same place imagine everybody in the world held held hands. just just held hands for one second i'm imagine the power that would be put upon the planet i mean i'll don't think there really any any more hate. people that i spoke with mentioned just how traumatized they still were one. a man
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that i spoke with off camera said that she never wants to go to a concert again but meantime officials are still trying to help those who have not been reunited with their loved ones and they are also offering grief counseling at the las vegas convention center tabitha retire so people from all of the country have family members who were killed or injured in this tragedy is is anything being done for them and to help them out for this time. tabitha just as you said i mean this is a huge destination just last year alone there were forty three million visitors and as you can imagine a lot of people from many walks of life come this way and so wish her the sheriff you mentioned that there are now twenty two different hotels that are offering free room and board to those people who are coming here to find their loved ones so hopefully they can be reunited tabitha thank you so much natasha i really appreciate the work you're doing there on the ground.
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while the numbers and facts of an event are important to understand the psychological effects can often be much more profound the tragedy in las vegas is making us think about how we process these things how politicians think about it how they react and joining us now from las vegas is my watching my co-host tyrrel ventura who is there on the ground getting the first hand perspective on the aftermath and how it feels to be on the ground there. tyrrell trouble. tablas i gotta say it is i've been to vegas quite a few times in my life and i've never seen a very good like this i can honestly say around you see the city you see the
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tourist of speed. you know everybody in the hotels and the and the black blackjack dealers and and all of that it's like the city just how to use a universal gut punch you just see the car white faces everywhere water on everyone's going about their daily routines but there's no energy there's no life too you can see that all they can think about is what happened earlier this week it's very strange because vegas has a very specific mood you know it's it's always sort of happy there's always somewhere to cheer you up. it's it's a very welcoming city for obvious reasons and feels like anybody can go there anybody can be there and this seems to have changed that it shifted the dynamic and there are always there's always a lot of strong statements from politicians and activists following situations with gun violence about you know policy changes the debate of mental health issues versus guns what do you think why oh why do you think at least i think i only seem
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to be worked up about the safety of innocent civilians when it's politically convenient when something like this happens. to have you know it's not it's not standard thing it's like nobody in congress no politicians really want to do the job until it jumps up and bites them in the face and you know when you see a situation like this when everybody kind of birds looking around going like oh what happened how could this happen when really there's many things that you could do and and laws and things like that that you could work on you could pass to help predict someone snapping and going nuts or to help increase security in certain areas and you know i didn't it's not always the johnny come lately we'd be over and over and over again in our politicians it's always after the fact always reactionary because we don't have politicians today that think ahead but actually have a vision you know down the line there's very few i would say in the democrat or republican parties i know you know that. well most of them when you look at something like
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this this shouldn't be an issue. at any point that has anything to do with what political party or what i acknowledge you believe in but when you look at something like this vegas is you know it's easy to be jaded as we've all thought about politicians using every tragedy is that like fill their campaign coffers or push their special interests and their own agendas. we forget that places like vegas are just a place isn't just a playground if people live there and there's a community that lives there what do you seen of that community. you know it's interesting. flying in the morning the pilot and the tendence both used. to have a peaceful berry have a lovely day it is never heard peace and love spoken in the
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limit i have in the last few days and you know i. that you can tell they're trying to find some hope in their city that the for all those cynical moments of the tourist taking selfies in front of mandalay bay and you know on bridges taken pictures of the carnage there's a lot of people here in a lot of the community who are actually trying to stop and say look you know i know that sin city you know it has the documents but we're also we're also a safe city we're trying to be a safe city we're trying to be a place where families can come where tourists can come enjoy themselves and tragedies like this that are to a certain extent unpredictable you can't you know you can't legislate against chaos it's next to impossible things like this are going to happen in life we have to take that deep exhale and realize that there is going to be violence in this life in this world we live in but it's how you respond to the violence and i just pray that we don't see that kind of knee jerk reaction we're suddenly you've got a patriot act that takes away rights or things like that that we saw after nine
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eleven i want to see the good elements we saw for nine eleven happening here in vegas yeah i do hope or yeah i do see a lot of similarities to having lived in manhattan when nine eleven happened and seeing how everybody came together how important that is and you see that strength it's just become sad and watching you know watching the videos watching people live through this and it's so easy to just say it's evil it's cold but. i mean when you when you talk about saying nothing of hearing it seems like when we see these worst moments of evil and you and i and in this job we see a lot of evil we see a lot of violence every day. do you think in these moments that we come together even stronger or how do we hold on to that. good question how do we hold on to that i mean i you know we've talked about it
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many times i think it's just people have to really tell. step back and just look and say look you know. like law enforcement try to discover why this happened so maybe we can you know put some things in place to prevent something like this again but at the same time let's not let's not forget the we're all human beings at the end of the day that you know for every violent thing we do we can create beautiful beautiful moments in life you know you see that with the space program you see that would many things and i think for a city like regulus i don't think they were you know city could ever be prepared for something like this but you know and it's going to be interesting we'll be here the rest of the week and i'm very curious as to what kind of plays with the tourists with the with the with the people community living there and talking with them and seeing what their plans are that a lot of times in today's world it's very easy to kind of say oh well we need to do this we need to do that next comes for
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a lot of people outside of the community telling our community how to you know do better how to deal with the p.t.s.d. of a tragedy and i think we need to leave it up to the regulars to a certain extent at least let them figure out how to heal themselves in something like this. yeah i mean we're we're looking forward to i'm glad we have you there on the ground in las vegas you're going to be talking to some people getting an idea about sense while a lot of people are out looking for the sensational i think there's a lot of stories and that healing and those stories and i'm really glad that you're there to help us with that on the ground that we're looking forward to to what you can bring us here back in d.c. and the world thank you so much tyrrell. thank you for for joining us from vegas and we'll talk to you more tomorrow. and keep that ship you know keep that ship sailing study while i'm gone always. as we go to break don't forget to let us know
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what you think of a topic for it on our facebook and twitter see our full shows at r.t. dot com. coming up we discussed the undemocratic push against democracy in catalonia with dr shah make. him watching the hocks. here's what people have been saying about rejected a night with us actually just full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to launch you know what it is that really packs a punch at least yampa is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are apparently better than food at some and see people you never heard of love redacted tonight president of the world bank so very. many seriously send us an
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e-mail. with more make this manufacture consent to stick to the public well. when the right wing closest protect themselves. with the flaming merry go round be the one. making the middle of the room sick. to lose. the real news. on october first over two million catalonians cast their votes in
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a controversial referendum to proclaim independence from. spain the result was an overwhelming ninety percent victory for independence but spain's national government did all it could to deal with jinnah my is the vote by seizing paper ballots blocking access to polling sites and arresting political government officials in the days since the referendum catalonia has descended into a state of uprising with businesses and workers going on a general strike and protests against the majority government and military police continuing with no end in sight as barcelona remains in turmoil and the international community remains largely silent on the crisis with significant implications for the rest of europe in the world we were earlier joined by. a professor of international politics who observe the referendum on the ground. as you made the referendum this past week and saw well over two million catalonians braving militarized police barriers to cast a vote nevertheless the nation national military police maintains that its presence
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and the government just refuses to to budge on denying the votes legitimacy has it all been for nothing. well let me first of all claimed that i was there i was there for about a week i was in catalonia following observing the vote i was accompanying filmmaker with a commentary maker and i have to say are you witness scenes that i never thought that would take place in spain or indeed in the european union since which including which included beating up on the vulnerable using police buttons against innocent unarmed civilians using fire bullets which by the way rubber bullets which by the way are forbidden in catalonia pulling women there are
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grabbing women by their mouths. even six. assaults against women conducted by the spanish national police on this bonnie cvo guard by the spanish paramilitary police all of these against let's state it once again innocent. protesters innocent voters who only wanted to express their opinion on the future of catalonia i think it is very important that we start by pointing out that the first of two over we witnessed instances of police brutality which are unworthy of any state which claims to be democratic. if one is incredibly violent time but we've seen images of police indiscriminately just breaking finger as a woman and and the things you are talking about what isn't the the mainstream
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media reporting from there that you saw aside from you know some of the violence but what did you see that they are kind of ignoring. well it is fascinating the spanish media in particular is completely ignoring the police brutality they are in a state of denial the spanish government was claiming that the actions by the police the brutal actions by the police were proportionate exemplary and one of the spanish government spokespersons he even claimed that the nine hundred injured let's remember nine hundred injured they were faking it's so he was mocking the victims of police brutality i think it is extremely worrying that spain is in denial of what is going on in cut the learning there is nothing. spanish nationalism cannot justify what took place on
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a hill where the first in barcelona and we already see the reactions and get on it today we had a. strike which was followed by the vast majority of their lines which were once again field with hundreds of thousands with millions of people which were denouncing. these police brutality and one of the things that so strange to watch is that the spanish government has been pretty successful in getting or even even the united states government is condemning the cattle and for for even asking for independence and sort of as if they caused all of this what what is it do you think that the brutal police tactics employed over the weekend which were shocking will eventually take their toll on what other countries are able to either tolerate or ignore. this is quite striking indeed and i would like to focus in particular on the european union my question to the spokesperson of the european
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commission my great this is for how long are they going to ignore spanish police brutality in catalonia how many injured or indeed dead do they need on the table for them to art for how long are they going to turn a blind eye on grows legislations of human rights because in the state of the union debate mr euchre he claimed values are the fundamental pillar of the european union well those very values are being violated in catalonia these days so what is the european union doing on the answer is nothing they are talking about violence and whenever they were asked who initiated the violence they were not even brave enough to say that the violence was initiated by the security forces and indeed they are absolutely being disgraceful my question is if they are
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so adamant so enthusiastic in using human rights value. and freedoms and democracy complain whenever countries like china or iran or russia or turkey are conducting those actions why are they silent whenever these is happening and perhaps even more brutally in one of its own members and my answer to my rhetorical question is that maybe those values didn't really believe in those values but those values are simple mere political instruments to use against your political adversaries which would of course lead me to conclude. there are very serious double standards. beyond belief one of the things you see with analysts now is we you and i discussed this a few weeks ago the government police tactics do seem to be backfiring somewhat somewhat ago analysts are saying that the violence as the violence increases the chances
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catalonia will simply declare independence unilaterally and not the regional government's hands are tied now that they must respond to the violence unleashed on its supporters how do you feel about that analysis. indeed first of all i think after police brutality the catalan republic up attentional cuttle and republic east are they more legitimate done in than it was last week internally speaking as well we have seen today people from all walks of life demonstrating condemning the actions of the spanish foreign military forces on the spanish national police so we see that support for independence is growing and growing and growing but the spanish government is doing is simply hiding and they are in denial that proving that the pro independence movement is growing and partly due to the actions of the spanish government. one of the things that we've been
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saying is there's a lot of comparisons and analogies in the press but in a way this is catalans independence is even more. massive and bigger than a lot of similar activities we've seen in the last couple of years catalonia is an economically much more crucial component of spain than say scotland is in the u.k. and many analysts are also saying that this could be a much more catastrophic situation for the future of the e.u. than even brecht's it was since it could accelerate other breakaway movements in italy and belgium and the neighboring basques in spain as well as cause the euro to spiral there's so many components to it you understand why there is all this pushback but something that needs to be discussed do you do you see madrid's reaction as a potential first. to the first domino to fall of many is this the
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first one and we're going to see more and more of your scotlands and your catalans breaking away from these big governments. i think at this stage madrid is fully concerned. with catalonia but there is indeed a potential at least in spain or the fear that if catalan goes away the boss country may be next and indeed we see so many activists busk policymakers coming to catalonia on of the first. to give support to cut the loans but also to learn from the cuts alone experience and i would say that rather than these being problematic i think. this is actually quite a positive story because catalans are showing the busk that there is another way. to violence to achieve their national goals violence didn't
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work very well for the busk for the basques where it seems that the nonviolent mass movement in catalonia it's working pretty well and it's indeed at least shaking the very peters of the spanish state. in one of the world's most mysterious regions something incredible took place this past july one of the world's largest icebergs broke off of antarctica slurs and sea ice shelf ice berg a sixty eight as it was named is larger than the state of delaware and double the volume of lake erie but since the break off took place during the south pole months long winter the only visual evidence we had of the iceberg were thermal satellite images that is until now in the springtime daylight finally allowed us to me a sixty eight eighty and it's smaller. sibling. this area surrounding the larson
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sea ice shelves sees one of the world's fastest warming climates and steadily developing cracks in the shelf that there trillion times iceberg may not be the last we see in coming months keep an eye on those ice bergs well that is our show for you today i knew how to listen as my co-host tyrrel always says in this world we're not told for love to not and today of all days i tell you i love you on top of the wallets keep on watching the hogs and have a glory day and night everyone.
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in the us a child can choose another me course in school with a tell it all fizzes as teachers we don't. return will says to the cadet is interested in going in the military but we don't recruit ourselves. the pentagon is funding a program to boost interest in the military among teenagers your chance to step up to an apollo so that melts away for a comfortable with yourself. brings you out of your shell you can't go wrong in the woods or it's a great stepping stone for whatever you want to do but some veterans are willing to tell enthusiastic children a little more they ask you call of duty is a very popular first sure video game log it's play and that's because military like call of duty to turn off call of duty oh yeah well you can't turn up more melodic
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these kids just don't hear. the darker side does the pentagon allow them to be told or does it just need more recruits. banks guys are financial survive until they save money that the delegates pledged to these if this is a central plank support diet plan is going to call them i know it's a stop to that. economic development is all about numbers really pleased to report this quarter we are modern six point. but what do we know about the other figures. when i think about the fact that our c.e.o. might do. over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart a says c.n.n. with all due respect i have to say i don't think that's right. is
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not just you know a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now where people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly devoid society. the part of the government tried to do it wasn't nicely made. might be making things worse. by saying this is not how capitalism works. goes hopelessly disastrously wrong. it's taken these children's hopes. it threatens to take their future. could erupt again at any time. most
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what are the marks on. the culture in moscow on this breaking news this hour a russian airstrike we hear is taken out twelve high profile commanders from the terror group in syria it is mainly to party in a critical condition to come up. also head to the big news a couple only on the breakaway region saying it's going to declare its independence from spain in a matter of days as over half a million going on strike against the spanish government. and the king of saudi arabia makes his first ever official visit to russia where the morning said. syria .

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