the answer is winning understood that the obama administration and perhaps catalyzed ice is in your country and that was that was the reason to use the bow. you understand that was not the reason they used that bomb even if that was the reason we strongly people disagree with it. you cannot just throw your biggest bomb on a people. because you want to kill a few individuals. and join the environment into the village the air the water or the culture of those people know it is wrong but it isn't. even worse for that the ban wasn't even last for that they said this was to. indicate to north korea the us power short of a nuclear bomb whatever the purpose was. it was an atrocity on the afghan people

in the us why i condemn it then i condemn it now ok but do you think that the trouble ministration understands us. catalyze the catalyzing advice as well as bad as well as i'm sure he does when there are people who tell him i mean you more or less of a says yes concert absolutely absolutely look as a as i mentioned earlier the united states came to afghanistan in the name of ending extremism. bringing an end to radicalism and extremist forces who are perpetrating violence in afghanistan and elsewhere from two thousand and one since the incident of the tragedy of two thousand for september eleventh. to today . do we have more of it in afghanistan and old region and in the broader region surrounding afghanistan to the middle east or do you have less of it we clearly

clearly visibly every day by all accounts have more of it and now for the past three four years you have the or the isiah as the stomach state. having merged in afghanistan who did this under the watch of u.s. intelligence and military and how come we have the right to us the scotian and the u.s. government must answer us the answer is with them it isn't with us you have suspicion of the afghan bases we used to help i have i have moments especially u.s. bases i have more than suspicions i have more than suspicions i have seen the afghan people come to me and to me how they are supplied with helicopters how unmarked. non-military color helicopters supply these people not only in one part of the country but in many parts of ghana sun and this is a daily occurrence and this is

a daily reporting that we get from from our people from our villages and also from sources that i'll go over it you see some people may begin to understand here in britain that britain has been supporting the fact the isis and al-qaeda linked rebels in syria but we're told here that british troops served your country and this country valuably by by liberating helmand province. well at that time they did help and we are grateful for what britain has done for canister it was a must see much much softer version of what the united states did but him and is not with the afghan government today it is back with the taliban therefore. it is now there over the ten most most most of that therefore we must come to a conclusion. the bombs and military action especially by foreign forces will not

bring us peace or an inch to extremism. that has to be two things here one. within afghanistan afghans must evolve a mechanism of our own we the afghan people to reach out to everybody specially specially the taliban who are from our country who are the sons of for soiling to seek a settlement second this afghan effort must be helped by everybody the united states must become a corporative partner with the region and with the bigger region with the big countries in the region that is. china russia including going to miss parks and iran and india to bring us to bring peace in other words if the u.s. . comes on board we would be very happy matters would be easier for us for peace if it does not then i suppose we have no alternative but to go to the region and seek their help and that's the direction i believe things are moving in we mentioned

foreign powers that general mattis head of the pentagon last week arguing merrily eld that. the rocket attacks. here in the russians were supporting the taliban well that's an indication of how things are wrong seventeen years on their americans can't even keep the airport safe on the day. the defense secure of the night still anything to the relations the involvement and need to seclusion or visiting kabul no. russia was supportive of the united states. from two thousand and one from the bone conference. held with the under the auspices of the united nations russia and the entire region were supporting the russian leaders have told me personally. that the u.s. is doing the right thing in afghanistan the time must cooperate with them so have the chinese so have the indians even the even in scope quite in spite of the

diffuse ways general mattis saying russia's worry i'm coming to the point the russians were supporting the inner cities the russians were allowing us supplies when pakistan became difficult. to go true true true true russian territory where thousands of things of supply convoys went through russia to come to afghanistan they supplied the afghan police they gave us training they were cooperative the russians. began to suspect things that afghanistan when exactly as we did extremism did not and that increased violence did not end but spread and on top of it then the order isis also emerged so like as the russians of questions now how come who's doing it. in response to that the americans say you're supporting the taliban. the russians are right to ask those

questions we ask those questions and the americans and their allies must answer our questions how come there is no extremism in spite of billions of dollars and the loss of life. massively to the afghan people and also to the nato forces in afghanistan because there's a question without any proof really what the proof is in what is happening in afghanistan. we got peace in afghanistan extremism was defeated within a month it creeping invasion of our country from our neighboring country was was was removed within a month. not because the foreign forces were. the only factor of doing that but because the afghan people were supportive the afghan people who wanted a change and the region supported the united states and its allies with tremendous goodwill they all began to help us in the beginning of my government my troubles to

this country even when afghanistan had nothing no government nordman station no means no money nothing wherever i went for example when i went to moscow russia sent me a plane took me to moscow brought it back and helped china do the same you don't if we body india turkey europe the arab countries why isn't that environment there anymore because something has gone wrong and that something has gone wrong is because of the forces who are there to improve things but things do not approve so naturally there are questions and questions are founded on. fundamentally strong evidence of wrongdoing how would you characterize u.s. destabilization of your government and of afghan democracy we know from wiki leaks cables that hillary clinton said we need to do everything we can to rebalance

a playing field tilted. at that time to cause i referring to yourself and we have other cables explaining other than us ambassador i can very clearly the these people want to to house to me or to be can be or to bring me to an arrangement that was not in accordance to the afghan constitution. when we resisted they failed . afghan people voted but the counting of the vote was into her hands. and through various mechanisms in doing some international we can isms the manipulated was worse and the try to work forced me to accepting that arrangement. which wall street have a chief executive with me like what we have now this arrangement but i infused except that the reserves in the united states interfere with very much as their american fleet directly unfortunately and that and that that is a very sore point for us because. when we will come to united states and its allies

in the west it was it was not only to remove extremism from of ganesan and to bring us liberation as a country back and to stand on our own feet as a nation again but also to be a. iraq tragic society too because we believed in the west's practice or democracy and we thought the same ideals they had for us. sadly soon we recognize that no what the jews and prefer and like for themselves is used against us as a tool of manipulation and who are the key players in undermining afghan democracy at that because all they know is clear richard holbrooke those are individual un mission in afghanistan b two there are a few yes he was appointed by the united states there robert gates defense secretary there to know that well he was a decent gentleman but the others you mentioned ambassador i can bury the late.

and god great there were the tools of the us administration for this purpose. individually have i don't blame them they were serving their government and any official who would do that once instructed to do to take a certain. policy through the united nations office were used very much but there were also individuals within the united nations for example the head of the united nations at the time in afghanistan the result of the seclusion old coyote who was under immense pressure but the street up to him and he took. very much under the middle ground with you know here he is he's retired or we took a middle ground which meant he sided with us. with rightness. yes i believe i could probably because i'll just stop you there for

a quick break more from the former president of afghanistan and bought two of going underground. economic development is all about numbers really pleased to report this quarter we are one hundred six point. but what do we know about the other figures. when i think about the fact that our c.e.o. might do. over twenty million dollars last year more than one thousand times the average wal-mart a says. with all due respect i have to say

i don't think that's right. just tell a free market would. people went from pretty simple financial lives pre nine hundred eighty to the point now where people are. just totally submerged in their financial accounts and they're all in debt and what exactly devoid society. the part of the government try to do that nicely maybe. it might be making things worse. by saying this is not how capitalism works this is all capitalism goes hopelessly dishonest recently rome here's what people have been saying about rejected in the us to just pull on austin the only show i go out of my way to lunch you know what it is that really packs a punch oh yeah it's the john oliver of r t america is doing the same. you know apparently better than. never heard of. jack to the next.

president of the world bank very. seriously send us an e-mail. welcome back we're with the former president of afghanistan hamid karzai just on this question you're raising about u.s.

involvement in support of isis day if there. is no implication that britain colluded in any of this we haven't heard that no because i mean you did say that the girls used to be able to go to school in the helmand you know meet around with fourteen u.s. soldiers when four thousand british soldiers arrived suddenly no one was safe what was the british involvement in helmeted did it improve things will get it should be improved things but the ways to turn subsequently things went bad and i mean i you know look i have i have studied britain very well i know this country very well it is a tragic i would be colonial history and you are. the tree wants that to be had all of that but that does not blind me to the facts the the many aspects of their presence in afghanistan were also very good if he sed. the british government was on a source when mistakes happened in they came and told us maybe five hundred likes

a really really five hundred civilians were killed just by british soldiers a little of that doesn't is that a lot to swing to the us military and that is to be condemned to introduce size very strongly which i did at the time but i must be fair there were also. they also told us when something when truong they came to us and said well the spin truong in our troops did this or that so that aspect was also that the us didn't accept general mcchrystal who was a very fine officer who would come and tell me that the spurs did something has gone wrong and that's why he was quickly to moved did you have to see the brad pitt film no i haven't you. haven't seen the film i believe it's a funny movie but i haven't seen it tragically funny we did all the money go these billions and billions for billion in twenties the team that went to afghanistan general petraeus the disgraced former head of the cia saying we're going to use money like ammunition in afghanistan and that's what they did exactly like

a mission and so i didn't work. it cost more corruption. they were throwing money and. indeed like a magician through rapid firing money firing guns but. into contracts and subconscious and subcontracts yes they did that very very much and that was the fundamental cause of. corrupting things of ghana's that. they did turn the turn some people into millionaires overnight and then in another part of the country the bomb to be put into total extinction overnight so that was the conflict because in a country where unicef this week said two hundred thousand children are malnourished yes yes unfortunately we don't really get this story obviously told

in mainstream media how do you believe that only people like holbrooke and clinton were trying to undermine democracy in afghanistan these mainstream media you've seen the b.b.c. and c.n.n. i want to be fair to. treat canton hillary hillary clinton. she was among the the more. dignified. u.s. officials. i could talk to her. and all with her. and she would all go back and understand we need your facebook for wiki leaks we know the cable. behind our backs i don't know but we did have a very decent relationship and that's what i subscribe to when i when i when i pass judgment on on on on someone so i haven't seen her plotting actually. in a meeting where my officials had gone to washington just before the elections. the

came back and told me that she actually stopped the date holbrooke when he tried to create an interim government in a democratic election ceding the mockers yes just before the election but but i believe she snubbed him and said no that's not the right thing so that there were things that heard that i respect but then how do you see the relationship with pakistan you've been vocally critical over the gunney the present president says pakistan will be a high praise for doesn't respond properly to the changing world when you see parkes integration pakistan as a neighbor of ours we have to live together backed by china and the elated about it by china india and i think the united states more in the past by the united states . but pakistan as a neighbor. there are two two. strong contrasts they had in our views with regard to parks that. when we became refugees of the

soviet invasion of afghanistan the pakistani people welcomed us tremendously and believably like brothers and sisters and we lived as if we lived in our own homes in afghanistan and that will continue very bad as well making for the v.a. back. yes no to that area that carried the welcomed us tremendously as as refugees but then as backers of the afghan resistance against the the former soviet union them and their americans also. did the most horrible. activity of trying to weaken the afghan traditional system of to weaken our moderation to weaken to weaken our tolerant society and to turn our nation into an extreme tool in their hands against the soviet union for the americans and for their own purposes for pakistan which we resisted which we denounced but which

would lead to the eleven which would lead to all other things nine eleven included and the destruction of afghanistan and the bottle of gas and all that. now. with president trump's announcement of the new strategy for afghanistan and south asia i hope pakistan will recognize. that pakistan was used by the united states. against a neighbor. for a purpose that it was not humane in but now. they're doing the same torre's pakistan to prevent integration in this region to prevent the economic development of this region do you think they're going to help them understand their budget to be gay i low on the i think the ends. parks' on how is u.k. to laugh establishment to set up to recognise this here is a common point between us we don't see the us strategy as helping afghanistan we

see it as undermining others through afghanistan and we don't want to be too in a big game where we get stepped over for those of others pakistan did the same towards us but we don't want to do the same pakistan we want to extend a hand of friendship to park stone and show them let's join hands with the region and solve it ourselves from the deep conspiracy where is the l.a. arabiya for him with all of this do you see it as a source of funding for terror in your country no not no no doing my guys are geographically it actually led to doing my government had had a lot of interaction with the saudi. government we tried their best to help us in the peace process they also understand understood our situation there was a time that the saudis and the americans and some out of countries and boxes did

this all of them the same what we did what they did but but during my government the saudis were very helpful they tried their best to help general flynn before he became john's national security advisor and then resigned as national security advisor was on this show saying iran is the big problem echoing perhaps what we're hearing from trump today about the fact that the sound all our talk not at all not at all iran has been a tremendous help to afghanistan iraq iran is clearly against extremism iran is a country against whom extremism is directed. they know it and we know it. so iran is a tremendous help to afghanistan it was in spite of the u.s. presence in afghanistan in spite of the differences that that the intensity of the differences you know that was there between them iran helped afghanistan in an

understood u.s. presence in afghanistan and never bore the us because of that we also short it on our our our independence and our goodwill and told them that well presidential gurning understands that when i know he well when will he must make sure that afghanistan is not used for an american agenda against iran that is what i made sure when my government any afghani government must make sure that afghanistan is not used by any power against our neighbors but obviously you're you mean then don't trust doesn't seem to understand that he's here for they don't trust our other than russia darling donald trump has his own agenda but that's not our agenda . afghan agenda should be different the afghan should be peace in our neighborhood in that region and friendship between us and our neighbors and specially between afghanistan and and and the big powers in that region. that we can't do much

so it's good relations the best relations with our neighbors and would rush hour in china. or imperative we must do that britain is obviously supporting trumps surgery in baghdad this well i disagree with that britain should not support from search britain should look for peace in afghanistan through two means that all available in our region if britain doesn't join in join this trump search population of the time you understand we're trying to in twenty zero seven trying to work out complex negotiations between different communities or tribes and apparently the british. soldiers on the ground rejected your advice about tribal elders and so forth no there was no such think according to them we'll come under the gun with you says that i don't remember i think britain is one of the countries who who understands afghan. social complexities very well because as ever go only

that it is one injury that should not be allowed in south of the bridge when did he see that i don't have data on that particular one but back around the time the norm is that they were there in the south of afghanistan and. my advice to british is very clear on present trump strategy in afghanistan that britain should opt for. a non military approach. and negotiations should be the way forward and britain can help it out because britain is very close to parkes on is it true david miliband then foreign secretary gordon brown at this time root to you to say please write a letter to the british people to convince britain that british troops are doing good and afghans. were no no no no no he didn't do that had he asked me i would have written to the to the british people. that would have conveyed my sentiments on the military front i think given he's all for nato and

the u.s. and allies in afghanistan a lot also conveyed to britain to the mothers of britain. that. the purpose for which they send their sons to afghanistan. for the mothers are concerned we highly appreciate it but that is not what's happening on the ground in afghanistan or as their children are dying in afghanistan sort of thousands of for people there for war is not the way forward there for bush and must start. as a country deeply involved historically in that part of the word to look for peace and. for it issues here that would bring pakistan closer to afghanistan and us closer to box. thank you thank you sir the former president of afghanistan hamid karzai there speaking to me an undisclosed location in central london that's it for the show give you dutch national media we'll see you on saturday for a special program about this week's conservative party conference and that just

during live. in the u.s. a child can choose an army course in school with retired officers as to. you just don't. recruit will says to you if the cadet is interested in going one in the military but we don't recruit ourselves. the pentagon is funding a program to boost interest in the military among teenagers. so that. with yourself. you can go around the military it's a great stepping stone for whatever you want to do but some veterans are willing to tell enthusiastic children a little more they ask me call of duty is

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