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a little bit hard to get over a pop. up. on larry king now this is a star justin hartley it was a page turner and it was like it's it spoke to me and it made me laugh and it made me sort of misty and i thought man this is the best pilot i read in my life i just have to get in the room and i was i was lucky enough to i guess for them in the hiring this is a very difficult show to get right because. almost because it's so honest that you thought you almost have to stop acting completely. just sort of be in the moment and if you're pressing it it doesn't work sly stone did never say he puts you at ease immediately makes everyone laugh he's hysterical and then he gives this unbelievable performance thanks everyone and then use your machine will. yeah. the

bed not bad but i feel like maybe i've peaked now plus you did smallville then i did smallville i did several pilots and one that does so yeah i did so i did it does no one does that i don't believe that you're one or the other and i would never i'm not i would never do that again all next on larry king now. welcome to larry king now a guest today is emmy nominated actor justin hartley you know him from smallville the young and the restless and passions and the now stars as kevin pearson on the breakout and sambal drama this is us the second season of the emmy and golden globe nominated series premieres september twenty sixth at nine pm eastern on n.b.c. you said that this is us is the show the world needs right now i think so meaning you know you wake up every day and you see things on the news that are sad and

dangerous and you know sort of at least for me raise a lot of questions as to like so what are we have stepping backwards in time. and and then you get a show like this is it's on a network and you know you get a ton of people that are watching and it's a show about family and friendship and forgiveness and and making mistakes and learning from them and asking for forgiveness and just sort of being a human. and caring for people and love them through generation is through generations and it speaks to everyone and so i've always said like no matter where you come from no matter what luck walk a life you governor or not or how old you are no matter you know your socio economic you know situation at the moment i think we have stories on our show that are the that people can relate to and that when people watch it i think they they take it so personally they feel like the show is speaking to them and i think that's how sort of we when on the show you get the part i have a show and you're

a hit on so. you know depends on who you ask some people but some people would say no get him out of here and some people would say you know we we love them. as with everything but i i was on. a show called young and the restless at and on and on forever it's all the aging there's no young and russell is amazing but you know working with my gosh guys like eric braeden in peter bergen they put out to spend doing it forever so they'd seen you on that show no you know what happened was i had a friend of mine that called me fellow actor michael rady great actor he called me and. he said justin. do you know dan fogelman you know dan dan film i said of course i know dan vogel and the creator of the show and he goes well so how long the known as oh my gosh i have known dan for a long time and he said you guys hang out i said no no i don't know him i guess i know of him or not you know friends i just i've been a fan of his work and he said well i think he just wrote you. and i said what are

you talking about use i must send you the script. check it out and so i get in my e-mail i see this this script and it's called untitled dan fogelman project i actually already had it in my inbox from my agent at the time so i will now two people are wanting me to read this thing i should read it. and i from the first page was reading this thing and i just it was a page turner and it was like it's spoke to me and it made me laugh and it made me sort of misty and i thought man this is the best pilot i've ever read in my life i just have to get in the room and i was i was lucky enough to. fool them into hiring they did they tell you quickly it was pretty quick and painless it was it was one audition. and then immediately a call to say can you come back and we'll put you on tape and then from there it was it was the job these fans of the show a crazy critic devoted their devoted their devoted for sure i think they're crazy about the show as well i mean yeah yeah exactly approach to a lot now and interact with you about it they do and you know what's interesting is

so they know me from the show but other than that it's like a complete stranger will walk up to me and tell me these intimate details about their family and about how the show has changed their family dynamic or even impact your father did you know my dad is not the kind of got my dad. he's a fair guy but he's a hard guy and he is a tough guy and he very smart man but he watched the show and i've never heard him get the sort of broken up talked up and when he was telling about the show he told me he said i feel like they're speaking to me and you could see that he was he was breaking up a little bit was fascinating and embraces a difficult subject matters right what was the touchiest you think well i'll tell you you know one of the things for me is i work with as. one of my favorite humans on the planet kristin that's and she plays my twin sister on the show and so we deal with. body image sort of issues and things like that and so that

that's not touches me but there the race thing is so you know relevant that touches me as well if that's the family element raising kids sly stone didn't believe that that happened you know i'm really not sure how it happened i think milo had worked with him in the past and they had done babbo together and my character is sort of embarking on this new sort of phase of his career where he's getting bigger and you know he's doing as ron howard movie now so as i go oh my god this is a real milestone moment for him in his career and i think they i guess in the writers' room were thinking well who do we get it's this period piece action sort of you know action drama movie. who do we get to play like the main superhero guy whatever you know or. and who better than than sly stallone so milo had a connection with him and i think he gave him a phone call he plays himself he plays himself in our show but he's playing a character in the movie within our show so there's

a movie that's being shot on our show he's a guy exactly and he is i mean the moment i do spend time with him at all known for a tell me if i'm wrong the moment you're around him the moment you realize immediately like that's a movie star and he's funny he's hilarious and he puts you at ease immediately makes everyone laugh he's hysterical and then he gives this one unbelievable you know. bang up performance thanks everyone is very gracious gives a few you know words of advice and then he leaves you're in a scene with him yeah. now bad not bad but i feel like maybe i've peak now you know i feel like is it all downhill from there i get out what's next you know i'm sitting here with you like what a life is complete. ok going to say i can't tell you anything but what can you tell me about season two and why can't you i can't tell you anything what i know is i can tell you things i understand that i know i can to i don't either i mean lonely

if you want to use the room the whole isn't going to harm yeah was it possibly possibly me i like my job that's why i can't i can't tell you much but but i didn't tell you when i can tell you that. so we're in for were pretty far into the season and and i i mean the episodes continue to get better and i don't know how these writers are doing it i mean i think they go in there they probably pull from their personal lives and things like that i'm guessing because there's stories are so deep i feel like that the cries will get a little louder and the last will get a little louder and viewers are obsessed to find out of your father jack dies they are why is that a mystery. you know i think it's become one of these things is probably better than than we thought it would be the the why did jack die but there's a younger man he's a younger man and what happens is my lo the way he plays a character is so endearing and it's just this guy that you root for and we find

out really on in the in this series that he has passed away so when the kids are older their dad isn't there anymore so people are wondering how it happened do we learn in the next you learned in the season yeah well known to happen did you have any sense that this show would be the hit it is i was gosh i was hopeful when i read it i thought like i said this is exactly what i think the world needs right now and one of the things about this business is kind of crazy is you read an amazing script and it doesn't necessarily make sure it's going to translate to an amazing show and then if it is that doesn't necessarily make sure it's going to get on the air and gets on the air that doesn't mean it's going to. an audience so it's just such a delicate thing i don't know how they did it but but i'm glad that it is it's been said that the hardest working actors are in soaps is that true you said the harder you got to learn so many pages every day i think there aren't harder working actors i think it's all it's all difficult ourselves of this is us is a very difficult show to get right because. almost because it's so honest that you

have you almost have to stop acting completely and just sort of be in the moment and and. and if you do if you're do if you're doing that if you're pressing it it doesn't work audiences are so. sophisticated now they know they can tell you know when you're not when you're pushing or what have you started and passions right i take it he i did a long time ago did you enjoy it i did i do you know what's not to enjoy i like. i was waiting tables bartending actually at the time and you know trying to be an actor and i remember people walking up to me and saying oh you're are you an actor i was an acting class i wanted to be an actor like nothing else and i was bartending to pay the bills and i was so i don't know what the word is i'm looking for but not embarrassed but i was i guess i was too embarrassed to say i was an actor so people would come to like are you an actor and say no i'm not i'm not an

actor i don't you want a good bartender i thought i was good mix so i thought i was people seem to be really happy after a few drinks here in l.a. what's what place i was at the avalon hotel for a while and i was like it happened in spot i waited tables at a place called barefoot that doesn't exist in a place called remy on the street prominent it's not there anymore where i mean i was so many different places ok then you go back to you did smallville then i did smallville i did several pilots and then went back to soaps yeah i did so i did it does that no one does that why do you do that i like doing things that no one does i i just i don't conform to i don't believe that you're one or the other and i would i would never i'm not going to sit here and say i would never do that again i just feel like the opportunity came to me was this great character a great story line and i researched it and i thought man and then they gave me the opportunity to sort of take this character that already existed and sort of make it my own and coprime to rewrite it so you had passions in smallville. going to

wrestlers this is us have you ever had a down period since passions. no. but yes mentally i have for sure. you know you do every time you do and i've done a lot of pilots in between and every time you do a pilot you pour your heart and soul into it and it's heartbreaking it's like it's like losing a love. every time they come they say now we're not picking that up and then they say don't take it personal it's not personal it is personal it's all personal it's that's what that's all it is is personal so specially when they're telling you not to take it personal be about a pilot you do. that didn't get picked up you know that there are several to choose from larry and i love you when they you said bush could be a hit and could still be it right now i tell you aqua man it's got to be it's got to i did a pilot for the c.w.

right after before smallville. with al gore for miles miller and. i were i played aqua man and it was very young at the time and even younger looking than i actually was i look like a baby i look back on and i'm like geez i got looks like he's in high school. and i thought it had legs it was really well written and it was. the superhero stuff and that's what they do on the c.w. and i thought we're going to go and i didn't quite understand the ins and outs of the business at that point i just thought we made this pilot it's the biggest pilot of the year it's aqua man so once i'm on the show it's going to be great i'm going to get a water indorsements i guess i have my whole future plan and then this weird thing happened what were they said we're not picking you up and i almost didn't believe it. to this day i think if that show had been picked up i think it would be on the move is a great comedy well they're in there doing a movie right now it's a totally different than what we had what we had was pretty glossy and you know by

design you had a better man would have been on yeah but you know another thing to what i think about though is it might have killed me because it's a show shot in the water in the open water so maybe it's a good thing that it didn't go up next we're talking guilty pleasures we're jobs it's just scenes of coping with it will be right back. there's a real irony going. on there is always what was always. immediately. wholesale surveillance you feel you have already while i was in and through so i was invested in trump cards used to sell oil are always on the story because it's garbage in real. in case you're new to the game this is how it works not the economy is built around

corporate corporations from washington washington controls the media the media and the. voters elect a businessman to run this country business equals power. must it's not business as usual it's business like it's never been done before. i do not know if the russian state hacked into john podesta emails and gave them to wiki leaks but i do know barack obama's director of national intelligence has not provided credible to support his claims of russia i also know he perjured himself in a senate hearing planned three months before the revelations provided by edward snowden he denied the deep n.s.a. was carrying out wholesale surveillance of the us. the hyperventilating corporate media has once again proved to be an echo to look for government claims that cannot be verified you would have thought they would have learned something after serving

as george w. bush's useful idiots in the lead up to the invasion of iraq. it is vitally important that the press remains rooted in a fact based universe especially when we enter an era when truth and fiction are becoming indistinguishable. rejected tonight is a comedy news shoulda not defect by the corporate media. would you go after the corporations that just lawyer live profit over people at every turn. the redacted tonight for me it's like medicine it's like a cancer joke from all the stress that the news puts you under redacted tonight is a show where you can go to cry from laughing about the stuff that's going on in the

world as opposed to just regular crying we're going to find out what the corporate mainstream media is not telling you about how we're going to filter it through some satirical comedic lenses to make it more digestible that's what we do every week hard hitting radical comedy news like redacted tonight is where it's at. back with justin harley this is our second season nine pm eastern time on n.b.c. september twenty sixth. getting married i am second marriage right yes it is you have a daughter from the first i have a daughter she's thirteen isabella she's fantastic you close with her like you wouldn't believe she's like my best friend and there's your fiance get along with her they're ok only take that very are probably best friends they're probably best friends i'm probably her second best friend very important i think so too i think so too did you meet your fiance sort through

a mutual friend. i had been i i asked about her i saw her on a show she was doing. my friend is doing a show and she got a job on that show and so i kind of asked about her and i think she was seeing somebody the times i sort of let it go and then several months went by and he was like a chris shell is i think i might give a little i'm not sure and i said ok will let me give it a few more months or use you pay so you don't want you don't to be the rebound you know i mean so. and then it ended up working out we met out one night and we talked all night long into the morning and i dropped her off. and then i went home and i thought about her and then i called her the next day and we've been hanging out ever since i was like four years ago you said this is in a sense change the way you parent yeah i mean it's what it does is it for me anyway it constantly reminds me of the what's important that sounds so cliche but it's so

hard to do it's so hard to. remember that like there's so many things to get upset about in the world that are just tiny and kind of meaningless and it doesn't really change you know traffic is not really changing your day much except we're going to get there a little bit later like who cares right. but it's hard to remember that when it's bumper to bumper and you're like running late and all that kind stuff so with my daughter you know there are things that that happen and i'm like you know as they grow up they get exposed to real life and it just sort you can see them becoming adults and you can't keep them small your whole life but. yeah i think it's made me a better listener you like to keep small when to be great and always play a little game of if you only know just so some questions actually i don't know much but let's go have answer about childhood so liberty crush. oh yes moto secret talent i'm a pretty good. like i was like

a matchmaker for a really pretty good at it guilty pleasure is like video games and that's one yes a weird his job you have that the weirdest job i ever had was i don't know why i even agreed to do it was cleaning up a bakery. i mean it's like you carry into a bakery there a disaster it's sugar and flour and the oh yeah things have to scrape off the floor yeah and then they just get it dirty again it's awful who would you trade places with for a day well tom cruise chosen vice like like a brown ale clubs or dodgers dodgers need to have great dodgers and everyone assumes cubs because i'm from chicago but i but you know dodgers something you wish you a better at. oh man i think one thing i know you could have a few yeah well most things i wish i was but gosh baseball how about the what never fails to make you laugh my daughter last time you were star struck friday was i

worked with sly best compliment you ever got i have i'm often told which is which makes me happy that i'm a really i'm a really good listener an advice giver that's very important you know strangest fan encounter i mean i've had a few. i would tell you that well man i'm exposing somebody right here but i think it's a really lovely story and it's a lovely man so i'm at the they're there they're dedicating shaq's statue on the side of staples center the one that hangs up the side of it and i'm that i got lucky enough to get a ticket to go some there and i'm up stairs hanging out with all that you know x. n.b.a. players and this and mountain of a man walks up to me and he's like six ten six let's robert or a big shabab walks up to me and i'm like wow what is happening right now he makes eye contact me on like this robert jordan i want him and he walks up and goes. justin i was like he was i don't normally do this and i was like ok what's happening right now is robert or going to ask me for an autograph like what's and he goes can i get

a hug and i was like i think it's where i go them and bring it in let's do this and i was like this is the greatest thing ever i'm hugging bigshot bob you know and then he goes and i thought he must really love this is us because it's a very touching show and it's i mean obviously he's in love with the show and we break apart he looks and he goes smallville man. what he wanted to give me a hug from small i thought that was been tested and that and then amazing yeah you know the don't happen every day you know or do something people get it wrong about you i think sometimes someone's face the way they look physically counterbalances what's actually in their heart i think i think a lot of people run into that though i think people are she good looking they think i don't know if i'm good looking and i don't tall and so i think people think that i'm sort of like flighty or whatever or should we be paying more attention to pay more attention to the fact that i think network television might be back on hard now tell me something people don't know about you i love to write oh i love to

write you ever think of arriving in episode of this is us i wrote an episode of smallville. i think often about writing an episode of this is as i don't know as i write larry i don't know if i'm a good writer i don't know how i'm good enough to write that show that show is so intricate and detailed and i don't know when i should write something and show it to them i'm going to tell them that you said that please i will do the work you know work out and if it don't so what so for eight years from social media questions fill addison zero four since you were green arrow in smallville have you brushed up your on your archery skills in recent years not in recent years but when i was on the show. they were very good about getting me lessons and you know the proper sort of technique and all that stuff and i got pretty. pretty good at it for a while there green i was a great comic yeah not gina davis good but i was good. sort of for one what do you think of all those t.v. reboot and would you consider being part of a smallville reboot to. kind of two separate questions that you know some of them

work and some of them it's like you know leave well enough alone smallville reboot maybe like a reunion i'd be into that they'd be where they now kind of thing terry al kooper why did you leave the young and the restless well terry. i you know what i read this is us i read the script and i just sort of spoke to me and these things come along in life where you just you have to make the leap and i just thought man i have to do everything i can as you lead it in for n.b.c. pick that up on i my contract was up on the young and the restless and i. i had an opportunity to sort of at that point it was like in my contract that i could go you know in earnest audition and sort of just timing worked out perfectly joe and kathy banfield would you ever return to young and the restless down the road to reprise your role as you know when he comes back from the dead. you know it i'm sure in some capacity i'm sure there's

a way to make that possibly work i'm you know i'm open to anything like i said i never sort of shut the book on anything good idea in this business i think so morello morial a poor what challenges or what changes or challenges would you want to see for your character in this is in the upcoming season the question one of the things that i sort of find fascinating about is his struggle to sort of figure out how to be a man in this world and he doesn't really have the tools but yet at the same time if you step back and you look at how his life is things come pretty easily to him and so what i would like to see is the struggle continue but also maybe him become aware of how easy he has it sometimes. and i think i would help him out so hopefully he'll stumble a little bit and in sort of it'll be like the best thing that ever happened to him in the long run in the upcoming bad moms christmas. with my. what coonass and susan

sarandon was that fun it was a blast it was the greatest i mean i'm in a room and i have a photo where it's like my chair with my name on it and then it's like mila kunis and susan sarandon and you know catherine hahn and kristen bell and i'm looking at this photo of all these chairs and like what a room full of powerhouse women and then there i am like my chair is in the middle i said what a great does it funny hilarious they are hilarious i mean out of control funny how do you play i play a guy. kathryn hahn's i guess kind of he he meets they meet at work and and sort of hilarity ensues from their things as a love interest kind of thing would you ever want to direct an episode of this is i would love to i would love it when i think i directed it again i directed an episode of smallville also not the one i wrote. but it's i love it i love working with with actors are you able to save your success or are you thinking about what's

next i mean i guess you could be a little bit of both but i've actually taken a moment to make sure that i'm that i sit for a minute or two at least every day and kind of enjoy this probably maybe once in a lifetime opportunity be on a show that's this popular in this sort of you know groundbreaking and reaches so many people great meeting and a great many you are you kidding that they said my guess just in hartley's second season of this is us free beers september twenty sixth at nine eastern on n.b.c. as always you can find me on twitter of kings things we'll see you next time. level warhawk telling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings to the chickenhawk forcing you to fight the battle. when you thought the credit tell you the gossip.

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